Saal 2024 Kia Kahoya Kia Paaya? | ARY Special Documentary | Part -3 | 2nd Jan 2025
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00:00Pakistani Politics
00:06Year 2024
00:10Pakistani Politics
00:14Pakistani Politics
00:18Elections, protests, protests and negotiations
00:25Cases, bailouts, arrests and punishments
00:29What happened? How did it happen?
00:32Events and effects
00:34Commentary and analysis
00:41It has been five years since S.A.R.F.C.S. was appointed
00:48When he says that there is only one person in Pakistan who is like Imran
00:53This is a very big message
00:55It is a misunderstanding
00:57There is a difference between being restless and being happy
01:00The local leadership had a lot of credibility
01:06First decide whether the bullets were fired in B-Chowk or not
01:10Don't ask why the bullets were fired
01:12At that time, when it was 9th May, they used to ask why the bullets were not fired
01:15Now they ask why the bullets were fired
01:18S.A.R.F.C.S. was formed
01:41November 2024
01:43S.A.R.F.C.S. was appointed for five years
01:53It is a constitutional amendment
01:55It has a lot of importance in the power equation
01:58Why did you change the entire structure of the Supreme Court?
02:03I think the reason behind it is to maintain stability
02:08It was thought that it will start after one and a half year
02:12Now it is one and a half year
02:14When S.A.R.F.C.S. is terminated
02:16Then there is a discussion about who will be the next S.A.R.F.C.S.
02:18They terminated S.A.R.F.C.S.
02:21Whenever a new S.A.R.F.C.S. is appointed
02:24Politics starts
02:26Phone calls start going from one place to another
02:28Lobbying starts
02:31This is a problem for this country
02:33It should not happen again within five years
02:37The President has been in office for five years
02:39The Prime Minister has been in office for five years
02:41If it has been five years, then it is fine
02:43The army chief has not been in office for five years
02:45All the S.A.R.F.C.S. chiefs have been in office for five years
02:49For the coming days
02:51If a new S.A.R.F.C.S. chief comes
02:53It takes three years to form a policy
02:58It takes three years to form a policy
03:00It takes three years to form a policy
03:02The reasoning is that if it has been five years
03:04Then there will be an expansion
03:06Then there will be an expansion
03:08November 2024
03:10In the Supreme Court, 34 judges
03:12In the Supreme Court, 34 judges
03:14In the Supreme Court, 34 judges
03:16In the Supreme Court, 34 judges
03:18In the Supreme Court, 34 judges
03:20In the Supreme Court, 34 judges
03:22The judges present here
03:24The judges present here
03:26They may give us a verdict
03:28They may give us a verdict
03:30The number of judges will be decided
03:32The judge number 17 was formed by Nawaz Sharif in 1997
03:34The judge number 17 was formed by Nawaz Sharif in 1997
03:36It was not a rule
03:38It was a message
03:40If you have become a judge in a party
03:42If you have become a judge in a party
03:44A new judge will come and the party will be broken
03:46If the judge can solve the problem
03:48If the judge can solve the problem
03:50There was no need to make a bench
03:52There was no need to make a bench
03:54There was no need to make a bench
03:56There was no need to make a bench
03:58There was no need to make a bench
04:00There was no need to make a bench
04:02There was no need to make a bench
04:04There was no need to make a bench
04:06There was no need to make a bench
04:08There was no need to make a bench
04:10There was no need to make a bench
04:12There was no need to make a bench
04:14There was no need to make a bench
04:16There was no need to make a bench
04:18We were stuck in Supreme Court
04:20We were stuck in Supreme Court
04:22We were stuck in Supreme Court
04:24We were stuck in Supreme Court
04:26We were stuck in Supreme Court
04:28We were stuck in Supreme Court
04:30We were stuck in Supreme Court
04:32We were stuck in Supreme Court
04:34We were stuck in Supreme Court
04:36We were stuck in Supreme Court
04:38We were stuck in Supreme Court
04:40We were stuck in Supreme Court
04:42We were stuck in Supreme Court
04:44We were stuck in Supreme Court
04:46We were stuck in Supreme Court
04:48We were stuck in Supreme Court
04:50We were stuck in Supreme Court
04:52We were stuck in Supreme Court
04:54We were stuck in Supreme Court
04:56We were stuck in Supreme Court
04:58We were stuck in Supreme Court
05:00We were stuck in Supreme Court
05:02We were stuck in Supreme Court
05:04We were stuck in Supreme Court
05:06We were stuck in Supreme Court
05:08We were stuck in Supreme Court
05:10We were stuck in Supreme Court
05:12We were stuck in Supreme Court
05:14The world is going, I want them to stop them
05:16The world is going, I want them to stop them
05:18This is not in complete contradiction
05:20This is not in complete contradiction
05:22This is not in complete contradiction
05:24President Trump was announced that
05:26Josh Keerla Friede
05:28Josh Keerla Friede
05:30Osama bin Laden
05:32was an agent of the CIA
05:36he couldn't get it from Pakistan
05:38Bill Clinton had removed Mr. Murti.
05:42He had given a clear message through Saudi Arabia, UAE and Qatar
05:46to remove him before my vote on the 20th of January.
05:50The situation in Pakistan has become so complicated.
05:53The trust deficit has increased so much.
05:55The tension has increased so much that
05:57will there be a direct call? This is the first question.
06:00But will there be a direct release as a result of a direct call?
06:03This is the second question. And I think the answer to this is no.
06:06The United States of America is a superpower.
06:08The President of the United States of America
06:10will not be chosen by the courts to release a person
06:13who has been sentenced to jail.
06:16The first thing he will do is to get him released from jail.
06:20They are putting a lot of pressure on themselves.
06:22And the state is sitting here.
06:24When the 20th of January will happen,
06:26he will come forward and do everything. I don't think so.
06:28When he says that there is only Imran Khan in Pakistan,
06:32who I know,
06:34this is a very big message.
06:36Whether someone believes it or not.
06:38November 2024.
06:41The Chairman of the Islamic Consulate General
06:44has declared the use of VPN illegal.
06:47The government and the state have the legal right
06:50to use VPN to do all the bad things.
06:57The opinion of the Islamic Consulate General
07:00regarding VPN,
07:02he said that we have made a typing mistake.
07:05The problem is that what you said about VPN
07:09and said that the use of VPN
07:11is also against Islamic morals.
07:13The whole government is running on VPN.
07:16Pakistan is not being made a joke.
07:19The UAE has imposed restrictions on 24 cities.
07:23A big joke is being made.
07:25What can be a bigger joke than this?
07:27The fact that the Islamic Consulate General
07:30has issued this fatwa,
07:32is beyond my understanding.
07:34With a lot of respect,
07:36the respected members of the Islamic Consulate General
07:38should not talk about the VPN issue,
07:40which is a highly technical issue.
07:42And if we want to save the society
07:44from being victimized by this,
07:46then there are all kinds of materials on the internet.
07:49The Islamic Consulate General
07:51was unnecessarily indulged in this.
07:53Although,
07:55from the first day,
07:57I am saying that he did not mean
07:59that we made it illegal.
08:01That is, if you and I are doing anything illegally,
08:04if the government of Pakistan has a law
08:06that you should purchase VPN,
08:08then the law is against it,
08:10so it is wrong.
08:12We should not have brought religion
08:14into such ordinary matters.
08:16Whoever said this to the Islamic Consulate General,
08:18now Maulana Raghib Naeemi
08:20is explaining it.
08:22November 2024
08:24Bani PTI gave the final call
08:26to protest in Islamabad
08:28on November 24.
08:30This time, the demands will not be
08:32accepted.
08:34Bani PTI's sister,
08:36Alima Khan, announced the date of the protest.
08:40J.P. Legal Secretary Khan
08:42lost a lot of credibility.
08:44Many people thought that
08:46until the family comes and makes an announcement,
08:48people will not believe it.
08:50In such a situation,
08:52the practice of force becomes weak.
08:54Now we saw that
08:56Alima Khan
08:58is the only source of contact
09:00with the outside world.
09:02She is his sister.
09:04Nobody knows what is going on.
09:06Then there is a situation
09:08that they talked about Sanjani.
09:10Then the stories come out.
09:12Khan Sahib said
09:14that it is fine,
09:16but ask Bushra.
09:18No one is confirming
09:20Whatever comes,
09:22gives a new story.
09:24When they said that they are ready
09:26to give them a place in Sanjani,
09:28they announced that
09:30this is the place.
09:32Islamabad High Court's order
09:34also says that you talk to them
09:36and give them a place.
09:38Till the end, the government
09:40kept guessing
09:42whether they would come or not.
09:44Will you stop them?
09:46In my opinion,
09:48it would have been a flop show
09:50if the government had not made it successful.
09:52When you shut down the city,
09:54after the announcement
09:56of the opposition,
09:58your hands and feet swell,
10:00you panic,
10:02you use your strength
10:04and you lose politically.
10:06The government also wanted
10:08to do this and see
10:10what would happen.
10:12Their arrangements were complete.
10:14They were not afraid.
10:16A few days ago,
10:18the news came that
10:20Bushra Begum was unwell
10:22and she would not participate
10:24in the protest.
10:26The next day,
10:28when Ali Meen Gandapur
10:30left with his container,
10:32Bushra Begum's car came out.
10:34Bushra Begum's car
10:36was accompanied
10:38by 50 other cars
10:40and some people.
10:42Those people were
10:44calling for protest.
10:46March and the protest
10:48would have started.
10:50They would have been
10:52moving towards Islamabad.
10:54They would have been
10:56showing on TV channels
10:58that the whole city is open,
11:00all the roads are open,
11:02all the shops are open.
11:04If he is coming on one road,
11:06let him come.
11:08We will not let him
11:10go to D-Chowk.
11:12Tariq-e-Insaf won the first round.
11:14You could not even bring people
11:16from KP, where your government
11:18had 5,000 and 10,000 people.
11:20If so many people had come
11:22from there, there would have
11:24not been any kind of protest.
11:26You were standing at 25,000,
11:2830,000, 35,000 maximum.
11:30Tariq-e-Insaf had to protest.
11:32I remember asking them
11:34if they had taken permission
11:36from the administration.
11:38Before this, whenever Tariq-e-Insaf
11:40protested, he took permission
11:42from the administration.
11:44This is the first time
11:46that he did not take permission
11:48from the administration.
11:50Seeing this, it seemed
11:52that God forbid, something should
11:54not go wrong.
11:56I think both sides
11:58made a lot of mistakes.
12:00A lot of action was taken
12:02from the government.
12:04Sometimes you have to be careful
12:06that the ones you are trying
12:08to convince are not the ones
12:10you are trying to convince.
12:12If the protest of a community
12:14is so meaningless,
12:16there is no life in it,
12:18there are no people
12:20of Punjab with the PTI,
12:22then you should open the city.
12:24Let's see who is in how much water.
12:26The leadership of PTI,
12:28in which there is Mr. Gauhar,
12:30in which there is Mr. Ayub,
12:32everyone was saying that
12:34Bani PTI had agreed
12:36to go to D-Chowk.
12:38But Ms. Bibi,
12:40the famous Khatun-e-Khana,
12:42was leading such a violent mob
12:44to go to D-Chowk.
12:46This proves that
12:48the decision to go to D-Chowk
12:50was not only not of Bani PTI,
12:52it was not a right decision.
12:56What happened on the night of 26th November,
12:58if they had been stopped
13:00on the bridge of Attock,
13:02then the situation would not have been like this.
13:04If they had tried to stop them,
13:06but the position of the government
13:08was that they had to go to Sangjani
13:10for a protest or a meeting.
13:12But because
13:14Ms. Bushra's element
13:16proved to be a surprise element,
13:18the government had no option.
13:20The president of Belarus
13:22and his 62-65-member delegation
13:24were present in Islamabad.
13:26So the government had to stop that storm.
13:28The government calls it a storm of misbehavior.
13:30And in order to stop it,
13:32they used violence.
13:36Their bargaining position
13:38became weak.
13:40If they could get a little more,
13:42now they will get less.
13:44The way they tried to stop it
13:46was a failure.
13:48The tension increased
13:50and the situation worsened.
13:52And the hostility
13:54within the country increased.
13:56I consider the government
13:58to be more responsible
14:00for handling the situation
14:02wisely,
14:04which did not happen.
14:30Immediately,
14:32after such a protest,
14:34politically,
14:36Tariq-e-Insaf
14:38will not benefit.
14:40In my opinion,
14:42it was not a flop show at all.
14:44A large number of people had come.
14:46And within a democracy,
14:48you can only protest peacefully.
14:50Bani PTI did not get anything.
14:52But the atmosphere
14:54or the atmosphere
14:56changed further.
14:58What did Tariq-e-Insaf gain from this?
15:00The last card of a politician
15:02is to warm the road.
15:04But Tariq-e-Insaf used that card
15:06in the beginning.
15:08I don't think
15:10Imran Khan got any kind of favor.
15:12In fact, the distances
15:14that were there before,
15:16have increased.
15:18After the same protest,
15:20the action against General Faiz
15:22was announced.
15:24And now the story has come to this point
15:26that Tariq-e-Insaf will also be joined with PTI.
15:28In my opinion,
15:30Tariq-e-Insaf has made a loss.
15:32Either they get hold of Islamabad.
15:34They had come
15:36to occupy Islamabad.
15:38I don't think
15:40it's time to
15:42go into the details of what was said.
15:44Not only did they not succeed,
15:46but the anti-climax
15:48is that
15:50there could have been
15:52a little goodwill
15:54between PTI
15:56and the establishment.
15:58Now tensions are high.
16:00There was a setback.
16:02There were more cases.
16:04Many children were arrested.
16:06There were reports of deaths.
16:08There was a loss of life.
16:10The party
16:12temporarily
16:14had a shock.
16:16They will recover from this.
16:18Political parties recover.
16:20If Tariq-e-Insaf recovers from 9th May,
16:22it's not a big deal.
16:24When they came to protest,
16:26and the rangers had been martyred,
16:28the government announced
16:30that bullets would be fired.
16:32It was announced
16:34that bullets would be fired
16:36at those who tried to enter the red zone.
16:38After that,
16:40the hammer fell.
16:42Don't ask why the bullets were fired.
16:44They used to say,
16:46when 9th May happened,
16:48why didn't they fire?
16:50When the rangers were martyred,
16:52the government announced
16:54that bullets would be fired.
16:56Even then, it was rubber bullets.
16:58My entire team was present.
17:00The real decision
17:02was taken on the night of 25th May.
17:04An informal meeting
17:06was held
17:08far from Islamabad.
17:10Many important people were there.
17:12It was decided
17:14that this would end tomorrow,
17:16no matter what the cost.
17:18At 11.45pm,
17:20everyone was asking
17:22who was there at 12.30pm.
17:24Even the media
17:26was present.
17:28All kinds of journalists
17:30were present.
17:32Who claimed
17:34that they had evidence
17:36that they took the bodies?
17:38Did anyone say
17:40that they had a video
17:42and took the bodies?
17:44Why did they fire?
17:46Who took the bullets?
17:48Who took the bullets?
17:50How many people's funerals
17:52have you seen?
17:54How many dead bodies
17:56have you seen?
17:58How many dead bodies
18:00have you seen?
18:02These are just words.
18:04A dead body never hides.
18:06A few people have died.
18:08Maybe 5 or 6.
18:10But the death toll
18:12is not more than 278.
18:14They have talked about
18:16the funerals of 12 people.
18:18I think this issue
18:20has become a big issue.
18:22There was no need
18:24to disperse.
18:26If you don't disperse
18:28peacefully,
18:30the executive power
18:32that has been created
18:34by the white state
18:36and then we got freedom,
18:38you don't use excessive power.
18:40You use power
18:42to do what you want.
18:44There are other measures.
18:46I think this could have been
18:48amicably solved,
18:50which was not done.
18:52Instead of saying
18:54he said, she said,
18:56my view, your view,
18:58such decisions are not
19:00made in democracies.
19:02You make a commission
19:04and decide
19:06whether the bullet was fired
19:08and if it was fired,
19:10we are seeing
19:12that claims
19:14are being made
19:16from both sides.
19:18PTI has its own statistics
19:20and the government
19:22has explained many things.
19:24Again,
19:26some statistics
19:28are yet to come out.
19:30It will take some time
19:32to see who is telling the truth
19:34and who is lying.
19:36PTI has been harmed
19:38and the next time
19:40they call for civil disobedience,
19:42see what response
19:44they get.
19:46Every possible effort
19:48should have been made.
19:50The government could have
19:52created more space
19:54and performed better.
19:56The way it was treated,
19:58whether it was a stick charge,
20:00tear gas or rubber bullets,
20:02it cannot be supported in any way.
20:04It should have been solved
20:06in a way that the government
20:08is harmed more than the political
20:10community.
20:12If the government says
20:14that the bullet was not fired,
20:16there is a problem.
20:18The government says
20:20that the bullet was fired
20:22and we did not kill anyone.
20:24Let's make a judicial commission.
20:26First, decide
20:28whether the bullet was fired
20:30or not.
20:37The failure of the protest.
20:39There are serious differences
20:41in the judicial commission.
20:43Failing to follow the plan
20:45and accusing Hikmat-e-Amli.
20:47Bushra Bibi is held responsible.
20:51There have never been
20:53internal differences in the judicial commission.
20:55It is the only community
20:57that keeps fighting even in the government.
20:59They have to fight now.
21:01Imran Khan is in jail.
21:03No one has access to him.
21:06There are more warlords.
21:08There are a lot of differences
21:10in the judicial commission.
21:12This is the reason
21:14that the judicial commission
21:16is facing problems.
21:18Bushra Bibi has not been able
21:20to play her role.
21:22Imran Khan's sister,
21:24Aleema Khan,
21:26has a lot of differences.
21:28They do not see each other.
21:30They do not talk to the media.
21:32They do not protest.
21:34Pakistan's Tariq-e-Ansar
21:36and Imran Khan are suffering.
21:38When four people
21:40come together,
21:42there is disagreement
21:44and hostility.
21:46The PTI has all the opinions.
21:48But with Imran Khan's presence,
21:50it is all zero.
21:52The decision of Imran Khan
21:54and the voters
21:56will be zero.
21:58Whether it is a press conference
22:00or a party meeting,
22:02even on 26th November,
22:04when people came
22:06and met people
22:08in D-Chowk,
22:10they did not know
22:12what the strategy was.
22:14They said,
22:16we have come to D-Chowk.
22:18We do not know what to do next.
22:20We have to protest,
22:22we have to go home.
22:24This was the biggest
22:26weakness
22:28in these protests.
22:30Lack of direction.
22:32There was no direction
22:34of what to do
22:36and what is the policy.
22:38What to do after reaching there.
22:40There are differences
22:42in Pakistan's Tariq-e-Ansar.
22:44But we should also see
22:46that Pakistan's Tariq-e-Ansar
22:48is the only party
22:50whose leader is in jail
22:52and has not been able
22:54to put a big mark on it.
22:56On 26th November,
22:58very few people
23:00were arrested.
23:02Most of them are still intact.
23:04They are being beaten,
23:06their houses are being demolished,
23:08their businesses are being shut.
23:10But they are still there.
23:12There are so many
23:14spokespersons in the party.
23:16I think the biggest challenge
23:18for Bani PTI
23:20is that they should
23:22support their party.
23:24One or two of them
23:26should become spokespersons
23:28so that everyone
23:30starts speaking their mind.
23:32For example,
23:34Bairster Gauhar,
23:36Ali Muhammad Khan,
23:38Bushra Bibi,
23:40Ali Imran Baji
23:42and his sisters,
23:44Mukla, Hamad Ali Khan.
23:46There is a weird
23:48atmosphere in the party.
23:50The biggest challenge
23:52for Bani PTI
23:54is that they should
23:56get everyone together
23:58on one platform.
24:00The party also needs
24:02contrast statements.
24:04Some say Bani PTI
24:06should go to D-Chowk,
24:08some say they should
24:10go to Sangjani.
24:12Bibi and her sisters
24:14are saying something.
24:16Bani PTI is losing
24:18because of this.
24:20I think Bani PTI should
24:22go to D-Chowk.
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28:36and after passing, whether their rules are followed or not.
28:39This is very important and this is what we lack.
28:42This is why we delay the implementation of reforms.
28:46And in some cases, there is no implementation of reforms at all,
28:49which harms the Parliament.
28:52And when the Parliament is harmed, it is actually the people who are harmed.
28:56December 2024
28:58Unrest, freedom of expression, strict rules are necessary.
29:02The government is spreading poison.
29:04To stop the distribution of the society, they have created pressure.
29:07Those who spread false news, should be beaten up.
29:10Baghfauj Formation Commander, Conference Alamia
29:16You cannot do this work in any century.
29:19By slowing down the internet,
29:22by using VPN,
29:25you can limit these things to a certain extent.
29:28You cannot end this.
29:30For this, you need to do some smart actions.
29:33These types of actions are very powerful,
29:36not by shutting down the internet.
29:39In fact, as we say about the economy,
29:42there are some temporary cosmetic steps to improve the economy.
29:45One is structural reform,
29:48as a result of which the economy improves in the long term.
29:51This is the same thing here.
29:54For this, you will have to look for long term solutions.
29:58The Formation Commanders meeting was good
30:01because they wanted to do their work properly.
30:04They did not want to lean on us.
30:07This is good.
30:10But the government,
30:13I cannot say that
30:16my research program was ruined.
30:19I am the director of the program,
30:22and I am also the anchor.
30:26So I will say that he came to give tea,
30:29so he ruined the whole thing.
30:32Even if he did it, people will ask me,
30:35either you did not do your work properly or you are lying.
30:38December 2024
30:41Ali Muhammad Khan's audio came out,
30:44in which he is saying that Imran Khan said
30:47that instead of Maulusiyat,
30:50Gauhar should have announced the protest.
30:55Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf has no leader
30:58other than these two,
31:01about whom a worker has no doubt
31:04that he is compromised.
31:07I think this is injustice.
31:10How can you say that if a person is in prison,
31:13you tell his family not to raise their voice for his freedom?
31:16Whether we want it or not,
31:19the slogan of PTI is that we do not believe in hereditary politics.
31:23Neither has Ali Muhammad Khan given the authority
31:26to hold a party meeting,
31:29nor has Bushra Begum Sahiba given the authority to hold a party meeting.
31:32I know Ali Muhammad Khan personally,
31:35I don't know anyone else.
31:38He does not interfere in the party at any cost.
31:41He just says that we have come out for our brother,
31:44whatever message he gives us,
31:47we will come out and show it.
31:51I will talk to the government about this registration.
31:54Bilawal's Fazl-ur-Rehman has no faith here.
32:00Look, in this, Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman is true.
32:03The government, the allies, everyone has made a wrong statement.
32:06At that time, you got it signed
32:09and got it passed by the parliament.
32:12Now when you don't want the vote,
32:15you have returned the objections to the president.
32:18There is no moral, legal,
32:21and legal basis for you to pass a law
32:24with both faiths,
32:27then stop it at the stage of signing it.
32:30The important thing is that the Madrassas should be registered in it.
32:33And this is best for the Madrassas themselves.
32:36The government is more important than the Madrassas reform
32:39that the government does good education reforms.
32:43December 2024.
32:46Bani PTI's civil disobedience call.
32:49The party leadership will meet Bani Chairman
32:52to get more guidance on this issue.
32:55Ali Muhammad Khan.
32:58Political parties have no way but to protest.
33:01They protest,
33:04sometimes they hold rallies,
33:07they have press conferences,
33:11and the last stage is civil disobedience.
33:14There is a misjudgment on the part of Imran Khan
33:17that he should call for civil disobedience
33:20and people should stop sending money from abroad.
33:23If they don't send money from abroad through banks,
33:26then how will they send it?
33:29These things are not feasible.
33:32How can people, without electricity,
33:35either reduce gas in winters or reduce electricity,
33:38how can they stop sending money from abroad?
33:41Civil disobedience is the remittance that is sent from abroad.
33:44Who is that? The one who works abroad.
33:47Imran Khan's problem is that he makes an announcement
33:50and the party follows it.
33:53This way should be used not only by the PTI,
33:56but also by the Jalsa Jaloos,
33:59March and Makabla.
34:02December 2024.
34:05When the government understood that the situation in the province was not good,
34:08then even Governor Raj could be elected.