Jenifer, exconcursante de Gran Hermano reflexiona sobre su eliminación del programa, aclarando que sus comentarios fueron parte del show y no se considera agresiva. También aborda su relación con el padre de su hija, Ricardo Centurión, destacando la falta de comunicación y el apoyo recibido.
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00:00How are you?
00:00Good, very good.
00:01Why did they eliminate you?
00:03Well, I didn't like those comments that I made.
00:07I know that now, looking at it from the outside, I was wrong,
00:10but I don't think it's that serious,
00:12the camper thing, and that, because it was also part of the show, it was a joke.
00:16Later, with Luz, we talked about it, we hugged,
00:19but that wasn't shown.
00:20Yes, the biggest criticism is that you looked very aggressive.
00:23That's what I read from the comments there were about you.
00:27Yes, no, I'm not aggressive.
00:29Yes, I am, and you pinch me and I jump, but no, no, I don't feel aggressive.
00:35So you felt like you were having a quiet journey through GH.
00:40You didn't see yourself as spicy.
00:42No, no, I didn't see myself like that.
00:43The truth is that I didn't.
00:44Besides, it was the only thing.
00:46Later, I didn't have any crushes, I didn't have any company, no.
00:48What I don't understand, I talked to a lot of the eliminated people who came to the show,
00:50if they don't realize that they are pissing them off in the course of being in there.
00:54And no, the truth is that I didn't.
00:56I mean, does the plaque, the nomination, the votes surprise you?
00:58The plaque doesn't surprise me because I knew that because I was with Ulises,
01:02they were going to nominate me, him being the leader.
01:04Because in fact, my colleagues told me, I mean, it was nothing against me
01:07that they nominated me because, I don't know, I did something, he bothered them with something.
01:10It was because they wanted to put him between the sword and the wall,
01:12between Kiara and me, to see what he was doing.
01:16And well, he did something else and here I am.
01:19How much do you think it influenced you to be Centurion's girlfriend to enter the house?
01:25No, no.
01:26Did they catch you for that? Did they catch you for other things?
01:28No, no, I don't think it was for that because I didn't say anything in the casting,
01:32it was just that he was his ex and nothing else. I didn't say anything else.
01:35So they didn't ask you again, hey, how was the end, how was the story?
01:38No, no, no, no, no, no.
01:40And inside the house I introduced myself, I said that I had a daughter with him and then, nothing else.
01:45Then I went talking to some and they asked me some other things, but no, I didn't go deep.
01:50How old is your daughter?
01:51Three and a half years old.
01:52Three and a half years old. And didn't it weigh on you when you entered the house?
01:54Because you stayed there, I don't know, six months in there.
01:57Yes, yes, it cost me a lot, but I know that I left her in good hands with my mom, my dad, my brothers.
02:03So on that side I was calm, but well, in turn, the second week,
02:08my head started to spin and that's when I felt bad.
02:11What were you thinking?
02:12How he had reacted, how he had taken it.
02:17I know that the family was going to take it badly because I already know that it is like that.
02:20Doesn't his family love you?
02:21No, no.
02:22Why?
02:23I have no idea.
02:24He never loved you?
02:25No, not since day one, but they never said it to my face either.
02:29It was only on Instagram.
02:31And did you imagine that he could react badly?
02:34That he could react badly, yes.
02:36Like, I don't know, wanting to take my mom out of the house where I was with my daughter.
02:39That's what worried me.
02:41Why? What house was he in?
02:43In the house he left me.
02:44Your house?
02:45Of course, yes.
02:47And did you feel that he could take the girl out of there or kick your mom out?
02:50Yes, I felt that way because...
02:52But nothing happened?
02:53No, no, no, nothing happened, but I thought so.
02:55But not because of him, because in that sense he is not like that, but because of the family.
03:00Because of his family.
03:01Do you have contact with him?
03:02Or did you have until you entered the house?
03:04No, no.
03:05I don't have it now.
03:06Before I entered the house, yes, I spoke to him a few times.
03:09Did you tell him you were coming in?
03:10No.
03:11He found out when...
03:12When he saw you in the house.
03:13When he saw me there, yes.
03:15And do you know what he said?
03:16No, I have no idea.
03:18I think they told me that he didn't come out to say anything.
03:21No, no.
03:22No, never.
03:23I didn't see anything, but he didn't talk to anyone.
03:25The family said, yes, the family killed you, they killed you everywhere.
03:28Now we are going to talk about that topic.
03:30But the Angelitas and the Uricatas want to ask questions about GH.
03:33Now we are going to give the questions to the public.
03:34Leave them to Jennifer Arroba, to the Alam Army.
03:36That's how we read them.
03:37Who wants to start?
03:38I wanted to ask you about this topic of obviously your ex.
03:40Because a lot is said that they did not give the dates with his ex-girlfriend and with you.
03:45And that everything was quite tense and it was all kind of weird.
03:48And that when she also dies,
03:50in the month you go out to show on Instagram stories,
03:53celebrating with Centurion.
03:56Then the family took all this badly at the time.
03:58Is this true?
03:59No, no, no.
04:00I never uploaded a photo with him.
04:03Never.
04:04I made myself known, so to speak, when he uploaded a photo, I was already pregnant.
04:09Previously I had a relationship with him that I never shared a story with him.
04:13I never uploaded a photo with him.
04:14That is, the whole issue that they talk about the dates between you,
04:18between you, Melody and Centurion, all that is a lie.
04:21No, no.
04:22It was like this.
04:23When I met him, he had just returned from Mexico.
04:26There I met him.
04:27According to him, he was separated.
04:29I thought it was like that because I saw him every day.
04:32From one day to the next, he doesn't answer me anymore.
04:34But at that time I was not hooked.
04:36And there was just a story that I don't remember if he or the girl had uploaded.
04:41And I said, well, he came back with his girlfriend.
04:43It was all there.
04:44And after what happened to her, there I wrote to him saying, well, I'm very sorry,
04:50that I don't know.
04:51And there he is when he clung to me.
04:53That's how it was.
04:54That's how reality is.
04:56In other words, they were not parallel paths.
04:59No, no, no.
05:00There was...
05:01Or you didn't know.
05:02Or I didn't know.
05:03Or I didn't know.
05:04It's very normal.
05:05I always saw him.
05:06I went to his apartment, he went to my apartment, he stayed all the time.
05:08I mean, you know?
05:09After a while we didn't talk that weekend.
05:11I don't remember why, because it was a long time ago.
05:13But what I want to ask you is, it's not that he told you that he was separated and you,
05:18I mean, apart, you started sharing life indifferently if he lied to you or not.
05:22You were in something with him, not official.
05:25But the paths did cross.
05:27Yes, yes.
05:28I mean, like, we went out to dance, we saw each other, but nothing.
05:31But she didn't know.
05:32Of course.
05:33She didn't know who was with her.
05:34No, because, I mean, I went to his apartment and there was no woman.
05:37There was no one.
05:38One when, I mean, being the girlfriend of so many years, you leave something.
05:41Jennifer, you said that the house was still in his name, right?
05:44Yes.
05:45That wasn't fixed?
05:46No, he was the only thing I managed to do to make her feel good as a family.
05:50Nothing else.
05:51Jennifer, when was the last time he saw your daughter?
05:54Before I entered the house, it had been like 10 days since I saw her.
05:58And well, now when I left, I asked in these 21 days and he saw her the day he went to the school event,
06:03which was a little while, and then the next day.
06:06But is it because, are you an absent father, him, in general?
06:10Yes, yes.
06:12Because, let's see, it's very easy for me that on the side of his family,
06:15try to install a lot of things.
06:17We, obviously, as journalists, investigate, but on your side,
06:20no one came out either to want to counteract that version,
06:23because I also understand that, obviously, the protagonist is you,
06:25and it's good that you tell it.
06:27Because on the other side of the Centurion family,
06:29they basically say that you are the worst garbage that exists,
06:32that you are a bad mother, that you were unfaithful to him, that even Mayra…
06:36I'm unfaithful to him?
06:37I'm unfaithful to you, and that Mayra, Centurion's sister…
06:40No, but I ask you because this is…
06:41But he wasn't very faithful, let's say.
06:44He had some problems.
06:45He has several problems.
06:46But even Centurion's sister, I understand,
06:48from what I was able to rescue from the environment,
06:51they say that when you were pregnant too,
06:54you speculated with your ex-partner that Emma was Diego's daughter and not his.
06:59And that Mayra saw messages and that's why the family hates you.
07:03No, it wasn't like that.
07:05I'm not going to go back to that because…
07:08I'm not going to continue.
07:12Does it hurt you?
07:13Why?
07:14Did you suffer a lot with his family?
07:16Yes.
07:17Or with him?
07:18With both.
07:19Suffering from violence?
07:21Psychological?
07:22Yes.
07:24Did he ever raise his hand?
07:25No, no.
07:27But I don't want to talk about that.
07:29I mean, Ricardo knows what I am.
07:32As a mother, as a woman, as a couple.
07:34His family always comes out to kill me before I'm pregnant.
07:37So…
07:39It doesn't…
07:41It doesn't make me…
07:42I mean, it makes me angry because they invent things.
07:45They have said that I, being in a relationship with him, pregnant,
07:49worked as a prostitute in the apartment where I lived with him.
07:55I have been accused of…
07:57And for what purpose?
07:58What did they want?
07:59To separate you?
08:00No, the truth is that I don't know what they wanted because they could never tell me.
08:02I mean, it didn't happen to your face?
08:04Never.
08:05In the face, they didn't tell me anything.
08:06In fact, they said that my daughter was not his daughter.
08:08Of course.
08:09I already had a bad time during the pregnancy because it made me feel bad.
08:13Besides, what benefit if I was having a hard time?
08:15But a lot of football players' families want the golden eggs alone.
08:19Exactly.
08:20Without the woman.
08:21Not even because I didn't get anything out of them.
08:22I mean, I didn't get anything out of them.
08:23He gave me that house where I am living, that his son has to pay for it.
08:26It's logical.
08:27Well, it's logical. You have a daughter with him.
08:28And a truck.
08:30I didn't do anything to say, well, yes, I was a housewife.
08:33I never stopped working.
08:35When he told me, what are you going to work?
08:37If you go out with me.
08:38No, it doesn't matter.
08:39I'm going to keep my job.
08:40And I still have it.
08:42Speaking of your job, when you came in, you told me that you worked with the Moyano.
08:46Was that for sale?
08:47Like to sell your character?
08:48Or did you really have contact with them?
08:50No, no.
08:51Yes, I know them.
08:52I've been working for them for 10 years.
08:53How did you get to work with them?
08:55Through my ex-brother-in-law.
08:57From my sister.
08:58What did you do with them?
09:00Administrative.
09:02Now you're on leave.
09:03Now I'm on leave.
09:04But do you plan to return?
09:05The idea is not, but if I have to return, I'll be happy.
09:08Tell me something there.
09:09With which of the Moyano?
09:11With Hugo.
09:12With Hugo.
09:13And did he tell you anything about Geche?
09:14No, no, because I didn't talk to him.
09:16It would have been good for him to come into the house.
09:19Imagine, Moyano comes in with the bombs, with the chichis.
09:22I didn't talk to him directly.
09:23I talked to the personal manager and told him.
09:24And what did he say to you?
09:25No, very happy.
09:26And he clearly told Moyano.
09:28And now you can go back to work.
09:29And he said OK.
09:30If not, they wouldn't have given me the license.
09:31Now you can go back.
09:34How long did you live with Centurion?
09:37Three years and a bit.
09:39A lot.
09:40And it was always the same?
09:42No, not at first.
09:43As I told you, at first it was a real relationship.
09:44Did it calm down a bit?
09:45With the departure?
09:46With the police officers?
09:47All those things that happen to him.
09:49When we were together, we weren't dating, let's say.
09:52We got along very well.
09:53After the third month of pregnancy, that's when it started.
09:56At night.
09:57Did you ever try to help him with all the problems he had?
10:00A thousand times.
10:01With alcohol and drugs?
10:02Everything, a thousand times.
10:03A thousand times.
10:04And he knows, and that's why I think he doesn't go out to talk to anyone.
10:06And not to the family, because I don't know, they're afraid.
10:08The mother, the sisters.
10:09Is he afraid of you?
10:10And apparently yes, because he never defended me.
10:12I mean, they've said horrible things about me.
10:14I mean, he used to open his mouth as he attacked you.
10:16Yes, as soon as he came out he said,
10:17Jenny, don't worry because I don't want to name her because she's not present.
10:21They did the same thing to Coso.
10:23But well, I'm not Coso, I'm your daughter's mother.
10:25Why do you think he didn't tell you anything about entering Gran Armando's house
10:29when he was kind of reluctant for you to work?
10:32Because he could have told you, you left the baby.
10:34Or something like that.
10:35He didn't tell you anything at all.
10:36Because he didn't tell him.
10:37He didn't tell him.
10:38Well, that's why.
10:39But now he didn't tell you anything when you left?
10:40He didn't tell me anything.
10:41No, no, no.
10:42Nothing.
10:43Did you still have contact with anyone?
10:44Now?
10:45Already?
10:46No.
10:47From whom?
10:48From his family?
10:49Yes, from his family.
10:50Yes, a little.
10:51Not much.
10:52I didn't read.
10:53They told me they were going to kill me and everything, but in reality I didn't read anything
10:55because nobody cares and it's more than the same.
10:57And at Christmas?
10:58Did you spend it with your daughter?
10:59Yes, yes.
11:00Luckily, yes.
11:01I spent it with my daughter, with my family.
11:02But do you have a good dialogue with him?
11:03If you have to talk, do you have a good dialogue?
11:04And now I don't know.
11:05Mother and father?
11:06Now I don't know.
11:07Why do you doubt so much that he has bothered you?
11:10Not because of him, but because of the family, as I tell you.
11:13Always the family.
11:14But he's a proud guy.
11:15Yes, but he, no, no, no.
11:18He lets himself be manipulated by the family.
11:20It's very manageable.
11:21The family says that Centurion got you out of a very hard situation,
11:25not to say other words they use.
11:27Is that true?
11:28How was your life before Centurion?
11:30No, that was a lie.
11:31That's a lie.
11:32I mean, as I tell you.
11:33They always say the same thing.
11:34Yes, always.
11:35I lived, I mean, I was born, I mean, I lived my whole life in Chingolo.
11:39And I'm proud to say it.
11:41In fact, my family is getting a house there.
11:45I'm going to go back to the neighborhood where I always go.
11:48Then I started working.
11:50I went to live alone in Lanús.
11:52After that, I moved to an apartment in Huilde.
11:55I changed jobs.
11:56I started working as a truck driver.
11:57I set up my apartment.
11:59I bought my car, my things.
12:00I went on a trip.
12:01I mean, I met other countries before being with Centurion.
12:04I'm talking to you.
12:05Sure.
12:06Then I met him and, I mean, nothing.
12:08The girl lived.
12:09I lived in an apartment in Huilde.
12:11It's not that you were in the middle of nowhere.
12:13No, it's not that I wasn't.
12:14He wasn't in the street either.
12:15No, he wasn't on the street.
12:16Of course.
12:17In fact, as I tell you, he spent more time in my apartment in Huilde than in his apartment in Madero.
12:22He spends a lot of time with family of players who suspect the girlfriend.
12:26As I was saying, he just gave the other girl the previous one too.
12:29Sure.
12:30But it was also said that, well, that you ...
12:32Did he keep the family?
12:33Obviously.
12:34In the word work, they don't know her.
12:37That's why he never wants girlfriends.
12:39Because he thinks they're going to leave the family without money.
12:42It's not that it's going to happen in a player's environment, that they want it all for themselves.
12:46Exactly.
12:47But all the time I feel like you're excited.
12:49Yes.
12:50Like he's in anguish.
12:51Sensitive.
12:52Why is that?
12:56If you want to cry, cry.
12:57It's not that good here.
12:58No, no, but it's not the idea.
12:59It's not the idea.
13:00Nothing, for all that teaching they have towards me, which they could never tell me.
13:04Do you understand?
13:05This gets on my nerves.
13:06Because lately, I mean, I have proof that I tried a million times to talk, to say,
13:10Hey, man, what's wrong with you?
13:12What did I do to you?
13:13Why?
13:14And I never give answers.
13:16On the contrary, they answered me on Instagram.
13:18Like I didn't accept it.
13:19I mean, I don't care that they didn't love me.
13:21It was just why so many insults and I ...
13:24They didn't know anything about me.
13:25They didn't know anything.
13:26And all this is transferred to your daughter?
13:28Yes, well, I was pregnant all the time, in the pregnancy, saying I wasn't his daughter.
13:33I mean, they met my daughter.
13:35They don't know her?
13:36They met her almost at the fourth month of life.
13:39Uff.
13:40And they still see her now?
13:42Because they said that, I mean, my daughter was born, they kept saying that she wasn't his daughter.
13:45My God.
13:46That she was someone else's daughter.
13:47And what happened to him with that?
13:48No, and he told me no.
13:49I mean, the day that ...
13:50He never trusted you?
13:51At the time, yes.
13:53I mean, he got the bullet.
13:54Yes, yes, yes.
13:55Obviously, because he was constantly writing to him, writing to me.
13:58They put me ...
13:59Now the lie is determined.
14:02What are you going to do, black whore?
14:04Are you going back to the village?
14:05Did the family tell you that?
14:06Yes.
14:07How beautiful.
14:08How delicate.
14:09Do you remember what Janina said?
14:11For the football family ...
14:12It's very sad.
14:13The girlfriends ...
14:14No, but I say, let's see, it seems to me that you have a strong character.
14:18I think you have a strong personality, but at the same time I feel that ...
14:21But at that moment it was like a water on the floor.
14:24Of course, girl, of course.
14:25Obviously, obviously.
14:26Have you ever been a victim of threats?
14:28Yes.
14:29Of what?
14:30No, of his sister, that he doesn't cross me because he's going to kill me, that I don't know what.
14:35And so everything.
14:36Then I wanted to see my daughter and I took her to the door of the house and my sister didn't come out.
14:39I mean, it was all for Instagram and doing shows.
14:42What time are we talking about?
14:43How long have you been in this situation?
14:45And this was a situation like this, it was last year.
14:47Ah, so it continues now.
14:49No, no, I mean, I'm already in another one.
14:51Now, beyond the family, what happens to you with him?
14:54No, nothing to me with him.
14:56Do you want to go back?
14:57No.
14:58No?
14:59No.
15:00Did you have other relationships?
15:01No, I mean, no serious relationship.
15:03I had something, but no, nothing serious.
15:06After him, no, no, I couldn't.
15:08And doesn't that bother him?
15:10Doesn't it bother you when you're dating someone else?
15:12Doesn't it bother you?
15:13No, because I never uploaded anything in that sense.
15:16I mean, super respect.
15:17Do you feel that he's going to like it?
15:19Beyond the fact that it shouldn't bother him.
15:21Did you have any reaction to what happened between you and Juliano at home?
15:24I don't think so, because he has his girlfriend, he already has his life.
15:27Of course.
15:28I would believe that no, no.
15:29But there are guys who just ...
15:30Yes, well, I don't know.
15:31I don't know, I really don't know.
15:32But don't you ever see your daughter?
15:34I see her sometimes, as I tell you.
15:36When he wants, and I always let him see her.
15:39She's always available.
15:40She's always available.
15:41So that's why they can't say anything bad about me.
15:43Because I'm always willing.
15:45Well, at first you said this, that you were afraid that he would go to the house where your daughter was with your mother, I understand.
15:52Did that situation ever happen to you?
15:54I say because you think about it, it's because it happened sometime.
15:59Or because you think you are capable, not of him, but of his environment, of anything.
16:03No, he has told me once or twice, like, I'm going to kick your ass, a couple of things like that.
16:09But in what context?
16:10No, because when he's not at his best, you see, he looks like that.
16:14Did you join Gran Hermano a little to get rid of him and that dependence?
16:18No, I joined because I really need to work more economically because he can't help me anymore.
16:26Doesn't it happen to you?
16:27Because he doesn't have a club.
16:29Doesn't it happen to you, money for the girl?
16:30No, not a few months ago.
16:32And now, well, my mom told me that now, when I got home, something happened to me, but I pay the garden, nothing more.
16:37But doesn't he have money to spend?
16:39No.
16:40I mean, is he having a bad time economically?
16:42Yes, yes, yes, well, he ran out of clubs.
16:44But I'm not going to make savings, nothing.
16:47But he worked in other countries too.
16:49No, well, but he's not.
16:50He spent it all.
16:52Of course.
16:53In what?
16:54In the night.
16:55Yes.
16:56I mean, everything slipped there.
16:57Of course.
16:58We talked to Centurion's sister, who talks about you.
17:01I imagine.
17:02Imagine the beautiful things she says.
17:03Listen to her.
17:04God.
17:06One of the pillars of my confidence is to see myself as good as I feel.
17:10Young, fresh and renewed.
17:12That's why I accompany a healthy life with the best in aesthetic medicine.
17:16For this I choose Dr. Beauty and thanks to them I manage to see myself as young as I feel.
17:24Well, how are you, Mayra?
17:25Hi, all good, nice to meet you.
17:27Tell me a little, well, what did you think when Jennifer appeared, your ex-sister-in-law,
17:33on the TV in Gran Hermano, on time?
17:35No, the truth is that we were surprised, yes, because, I mean, we didn't know, nobody knew.
17:42But more than anything, I was surprised in the sense of the issue of the girl, of my niece.
17:48More than anything for that.
17:50Not because of what she does, because it never interested us.
17:53She, in her life, can do whatever she wants.
17:55But the issue was the girl.
17:57I mean, one was angry on that side, that we didn't know.
18:01When the program started, there was a post that you had made, it may be you,
18:05that you said, you know who they have to vote for if they stay on the board.
18:10Yes, a lot of people told me and a lot of people support us.
18:14From what I found out, she said that we never campaigned.
18:20I mean, we would move a finger, we would spend energy on campaigning and those things.
18:27If she left, it was because people know what she is and nobody loves her anywhere.
18:34Well, you tell me, people saw what it was.
18:36I imagine that, well, you knowing her from your personal experiences.
18:39But how do you think it was shown there in the house?
18:42No, the truth was a very unpleasant shame on his part.
18:46I mean, to enter saying his phrase had nothing to do with it.
18:52And then not to wait a second to say, me, here, here, I am this, the other.
18:59Immediately to name him, to dirty him.
19:02Saying things that, as I already told you about the disease,
19:06that everyone knows and that it was not necessary to dirty him that way.
19:13But if it seemed to her that doing all that she could win the game or whatever,
19:19it went wrong, I think.
19:21How is Ricardo?
19:23From what you mentioned to me, that she alluded to her addictions.
19:28No, no, he is fine, thank God.
19:30Recovering, stronger than ever.
19:34He doesn't know anything about this because he hasn't been in touch with his cell phone in a long time.
19:39So nothing, in his world, with us, his family.
19:44You told me that Ricardo is not interested in his life.
19:49I don't know how long ago that he lost the bond, that he no longer has a relationship with her, with his daughter's mother.
19:55And they are separated, I don't know, a couple of years ago.
20:00I mean, when she goes to my house, she comes and leaves the girl, he grabs the girl, grabs his things and she leaves.
20:07And that's just the bond.
20:10And then, nothing.
20:12I mean, then they don't have any dialogue apart.
20:15What happened to you when you heard him say that he was not present?
20:20Because he must understand that he was not a present father, that he also said ...
20:24I was kind of upset because he said things that are not true.
20:27Because he is not an absent father.
20:29I mean, he's always giving her and the girl everything he has to give her.
20:37I mean, because he would have to give things to his daughter only.
20:40But he gives it to both, you know?
20:43And he gives her more of what is due too, you know?
20:46Of things.
20:48He left his house in Canning, he has his truck to move with the girl.
20:53She said he didn't give her anything.
20:55So that house, the truck and everything she has, who gave it to her?
20:59Do you understand?
21:01She said she carried everything on her shoulder, that she did not receive anything from him.
21:05It is good that you clarify it because we hear the other part of the story.
21:08I tell you, I never went out in front of the camera to say anything.
21:14I always kept my mouth shut.
21:16But there comes a time when I have to go out and defend him because he is my brother.
21:22And I'm not going to let him talk nonsense either.
21:25Things that are not, you understand?
21:27Because it is not like that.
21:29Because he deviates by giving them everything.
21:32He worked for his daughter and so that she does not lack anything either.
21:36That is why today she lives as she lives.
21:38Earned, as she says.
21:41Thanks to whom?
21:43To him, you understand?
21:44Apart from the fact that he has his job.
21:48What is earning?
21:49She earned it.
21:51Earning means like I have money.
21:53Leftover.
21:54Leftover.
21:55There was Mayra who said that he was uninformed, that he did not know anything.
21:59That he is in prison.
22:02No, no, no.
22:03You are not in prison because the other day ...
22:05No, no, I don't know. I ask because he is uninformed.
22:07He made a video call with my daughter from my niece's cell phone to my mom's cell phone.
22:11And I asked him what happened with your cell phone.
22:14He said, no, I don't even have a new visa.
22:16Oh well.
22:17But because of a treatment you are doing?
22:18I have no idea.
22:19No, I don't think so, because it's at home.
22:20So I don't think so.
22:21What kept you away from him?
22:23No, everything I was living.
22:26I didn't feel like going through those situations anymore.
22:30Consumption?
22:31No, everything.
22:32The situations I was going through.
22:34Okay, but what is everything?
22:36I separate myself for such and such thing.
22:38Because I got tired.
22:39I got tired.
22:40Of the detachment?
22:41Of the detachment, that ...
22:42That he leaves at night.
22:43That he doesn't come, all that.
22:44That he disappears.
22:45But you lived together in that house.
22:46Yes, yes.
22:47On the street.
22:48And he used to go without coming back?
22:49No, no.
22:50We lived in Puerta Madero.
22:51That's why.
22:52But he used to go without coming back?
22:53Yes.
22:54Jennifer, how long?
22:55For how long?
22:56Nothing.
22:57I mean, if I go one night, I turn around and disappear for two or three days.
22:59How did you spend it during the pregnancy?
23:00Did it make it easy for you?
23:01No, no.
23:02I had a bad time.
23:03Very bad.
23:04It was always the same.
23:05After the third month, you said.
23:06From the third month, yes.
23:07And thanks to them too.
23:08Of course.
23:09I mean, he collaborated with the family to have a bad time.
23:12Obviously.
23:13In what things?
23:14What did they do to you?
23:15No, in making me Instagram trucks.
23:16In putting together with people, I don't know, fans.
23:20And get dirty, look for things.
23:23And everything they did to me.
23:24But no, no, no.
23:25I don't want to talk about that because I'm not interested.
23:26I didn't come to talk about him or his family.
23:28For me, I mean, I respect, they are my daughter's family.
23:31So Mayra, before talking about my life, solve your problems, your life.
23:36And you know very well what I'm talking about.
23:37What are you talking about?
23:38She knows.
23:39Well, don't leave us out.
23:40She talks, you talk.
23:42She knows very well that before talking to me as a mother, she fixes herself.
23:46Bad people, bad person.
23:47Nothing more to say.
23:48What happens to you when you see this image?
23:50No, nothing.
23:52Look, that day.
23:55How was that day?
23:57There was happiness at that obvious moment that lasted a while.
24:02Happiness lasted a while the day your daughter was born.
24:05Yes.
24:06And why did it last a while?
24:07And because that day my daughter was born, they leaked a video of him with another.
24:11Ah, how wonderful.
24:12On purpose.
24:13The family?
24:14With a famous woman?
24:15No, a random one that I don't want to give him.
24:18With one.
24:19And did he have a relationship with her?
24:22Yes, he had something.
24:24The day my daughter was born, they uploaded that video.
24:26The family uploaded it or someone else?
24:28An X.
24:29That video was leaked.
24:30Of course, it was just uploaded.
24:31It was the day my daughter was born.
24:32No, it's a coincidence.
24:33It's all a coincidence.
24:34No, it's not a coincidence.
24:35There is a second part of Mayra that continues to talk.
24:38Let's see.
24:41She talked about how when she was pregnant, she lived a hell a few months after being pregnant,
24:46that supposedly her relationship was very, very hard there.
24:49I don't know what you remember or what you know about that part of the story.
24:51Well, that was their issue, that they will know.
24:55She got involved with him when my sister-in-law Melody passed away,
25:00whom I name with respect and her family knows that I always name her with respect.
25:05She got involved in the middle.
25:08After what happened with my sister-in-law's death, it's like she got much more involved in being with him.
25:15And he was very depressed at that time and so on.
25:17And it's like he took advantage of it.
25:19And then, in a month or two, she got pregnant.
25:23But she knew what he was, you know?
25:27I mean, you can't complain about the things that have happened.
25:31I think they will know.
25:33Because she also did a lot of things during the pregnancy, you know?
25:38What do you mean?
25:39Because, well, she talked about how she had been deceived.
25:41That's why I don't know if you mean that or something else.
25:43No, no, that was both.
25:44Because she was pregnant.
25:46I also got photos that she was still seeing her ex-partner in a diaper shop in Quilmes.
25:54They sent me photos.
25:55She was four months pregnant and they had her there against the diapers, doing what you already know.
26:01And she was with the belly and she was four months pregnant.
26:04So it comes from both sides.
26:08That she also tells things as they are.
26:11I have something that you just said.
26:13With all due respect, too.
26:15About Ricardo's ex-partner who passed away.
26:18You told me that...
26:19It was very bad.
26:20With all that stuff. Very bad.
26:22This. Why do you frame this?
26:24Because people don't love her.
26:26Because she, Melody, and my sister-in-law were very well known all over the world.
26:31After what happened, people got much closer to her by doing fan clubs and so on.
26:37And it was something that bothered her.
26:40She wouldn't let my brother upload a photo that reminded her of her birthday and so on.
26:45She even treated her like a dead person.
26:49And things like that.
26:51That's why she never got along with us, with the family.
26:55Because once she got involved...
26:58Besides, she was a person who was no longer there.
27:01And she didn't have the right to talk about all those things.
27:04And...
27:05But why do you say that she took advantage of that situation to be with him?
27:09And because she saw him as he was.
27:11When she saw him as he was, it's like I say that she took advantage of the situation to have him.
27:17At the beginning, you told me that she had come in shouting a phrase from Ricardo.
27:22At night I'm not sleepy.
27:24They're going to go out for a drink.
27:26But do you think she used the relationship she had to be where she is today?
27:31Yes, obviously.
27:33She came in there because...
27:36Because she was Centurion's partner.
27:39She came in there and she was there for him.
27:42Because otherwise, no.
27:44Tell me, otherwise, how was she going to come in?
27:47Previously, I didn't know him, I didn't know anyone either.
27:51He was nothing, he had nothing.
27:54Because he lived here in Wilde, in an apartment.
27:57So I also heard that he said that she already had things last month.
28:01No, that's a lie.
28:03How he is now, well and has everything, it's thanks to my brother.
28:07She and her family.
28:09What was the most painful thing for you as a family that you have heard?
28:12That he is sick.
28:13That's what obviously hurts you the most.
28:16Because it's like I tell you and I repeat it to you.
28:18It's something that everyone already knows.
28:20And that he knew it too and he didn't like it.
28:24And that's like, I'm not going to lie to you.
28:26Yes, maybe he humiliated him because he didn't expect it from him.
28:31Because being the mother of his daughter, talking about him that way, he didn't like it.
28:37Yes, he didn't like it.
28:39Do you think they're going to have a talk between them?
28:42That they're going to have to talk when they see each other?
28:45After everything that happened between Ricardo and Jennifer?
28:47I really don't know.
28:49I don't know if he's going to want it, I don't know about that.
28:52They will always have a dialogue because there is a girl in the middle.
28:56There is a daughter in the middle.
28:58But after he wants to talk about other things, about what happened, I don't think so.
29:04I don't think that matters to him.
29:07He is only his daughter, the things of his daughter and nothing else.
29:11You as a family, mother, you, the sister.
29:16At some point, could you have a good relationship with Jennifer?
29:19Because, well, I imagine that if you see attitudes like what you mentioned before about Melody, it's difficult.
29:24Of course we had, but because we had no choice.
29:27Because she was my brother's partner and you had to talk to her.
29:32You had to sit at the table to eat, to share.
29:36But not because you wanted to, I'm telling you.
29:38But because I respect my brother because it was what he had chosen.
29:42But we never liked each other.
29:46We never loved each other.
29:50Especially when he started talking about Melody.
29:54But if there was a dialogue or something, it was by force.
30:00Because there was no other way.
30:05What can I answer to this girl?
30:08She said several things.
30:10That the relationship didn't flow because she spoke badly of the girl who passed away.
30:13Never, never.
30:14I can swear to you.
30:15That you called her the dead girl.
30:16For my daughter to stay dry at this moment.
30:18That I went to Melody.
30:21Never, but never.
30:23They invented all that.
30:25So she filled his head and you filled hers.
30:28I don't want to talk because I know that if I do, I will ruin them.
30:30They are attacking you.
30:31It's okay.
30:32Tomorrow my daughter is going to see all this and I don't want her to say such a thing to my mother.
30:36Yes, but in fact you are trying to understand that what they say, they say it.
30:41You are not defending yourself because you would have to counterattack what they are saying.
30:45Yes, what happens is that otherwise they will not cut her more.
30:47And the truth is that I am not interested in being in the media for talking about Centurion.
30:51But what happens is that in fact you stopped and they continue to attack you.
30:54Yes, yes, but because they are like that.
30:56But what can you expect from a donkey more than a kick?
30:58Instead of taking notes, go look for a job, sister.
31:00Do you think your brother keeps it?
31:02No, now I don't know how they should live because if he doesn't have it, how is he going to keep it?
31:05But before you start taking notes, look for a job, try to work.