👉Habló Mariel, la mamá de la menor a quien una jueza otorgó la custodia a sus abuelos paternos, a pesar de que hay una investigación por abuso contra su padre. Sin embargo, profesionales cuestionaron tanto el procedimiento como la decisión final, señalando el potencial daño psicológico que puede causar este cambio brusco en la vida de la niña.
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00:00I see that the biggest justification, if you can call it that,
00:05for the judge to grant her custody of her grandparents
00:08is that she couldn't re-connect with them
00:12because the girl refused to leave.
00:15And this happened, as we saw in the images,
00:19that they wanted me to force her to leave that way.
00:22So, in the last evaluations
00:26that she had in the technical team of the court,
00:30she couldn't answer when she was asked if she wanted to see them or not.
00:35So, that re-connection file was totally stopped.
00:39When that file is stopped and she can't re-connect legally,
00:44what is dealt with is a process of custody,
00:48arguing the risk that the minor has
00:51and the damage to her psychophysical health
00:53that causes her not to see her paternal family,
00:57with whom she didn't want to relate.
00:59Excuse me for the ignorance, Fito isn't here to consult this,
01:02our lawyer, Fito Baquet, who is permanently...
01:05But, in any case, there was also a case of scheduling a visit,
01:10or visits agreed...
01:12She's going to have to make the visit,
01:14because she has the hearing on February 10th.
01:16The re-connection hearing is held by the mother herself, with her daughter.
01:20This is crazy.
01:23It's legal madness, based on basic rights.
01:27If the grandparents want to see the grandparents,
01:30in any family conflict, there is a schedule of visits.
01:35Of course.
01:36So, since she hasn't seen them,
01:39now the mother has to go to jail, let's say the truth.
01:42And in this way...
01:43I've been talking to people for several days,
01:47we take this into account,
01:48because this that is happening to Mariel,
01:51happens to other people.
01:52I have a grandmother,
01:53who, 18 months ago, her twins were taken out,
01:57and they have them in a home.
01:59And the grandmother of the kids says,
02:01I haven't been able to see my grandchildren for two Christmas.
02:04They have them in a home in the province of Buenos Aires.
02:07From several jobs that we have done in different homes,
02:10especially in one, in Moreno,
02:13a situation of an unknown reality begins to come to us,
02:17which is this question of taking away,
02:20taking away the children from the parents,
02:23mothers and parents.
02:25And in this case, with a complaint from the media,
02:28that later, of course, we have to see if it is true or not,
02:30this has to be investigated by justice.
02:31Now, in the meantime, what does not seem logical,
02:33is that they take a woman, their daughter.
02:37No, and beyond the background issue,
02:39which, as it is presented,
02:40presents many, at least striking, edges.
02:44Perhaps there are elements, I think,
02:47that maybe we are not overestimating,
02:50that we do not know.
02:51Now, whatever the background issue is,
02:54that will have to be determined by justice.
02:56What strikes me is that the procedure
02:58has been carried out in this way,
03:01having to put in front of everything,
03:04even the very interest of the adults
03:06who are in conflict,
03:08putting in front the interests of preserving the minor.
03:12It is not seen that they are preserving anyone,
03:14in this image.
03:15No, no, no, this is what strikes me,
03:17without taking sides.
03:18The advisor, Gabriela Carolina Goleff,
03:20advisor of children, girls and teenagers,
03:22from the province,
03:23had rejected this procedure
03:26that was given for the unanimous or unilateral decision
03:30of the judge.
03:32Let's say, there are, at least,
03:34professionals who said that this,
03:36what we are seeing up here,
03:38is a matter that will psychologically
03:40harm the minor for life.
03:42Not only this procedure was put to the advisor,
03:45but to the guard herself.
03:47The technical team also recommended
03:49that it was not convenient for the girl
03:52to make that sudden change of life,
03:55because if it is her reality,
03:57three years ago she does not have her biological father
03:59for what she did,
04:00and now she does not have her mother,
04:02her sister, her life.
04:04And in that procedure,
04:06only the last five minutes are shown,
04:09which were disastrous.
04:11We spent two hours trying to convince her
04:13to go with her grandparents.
04:15You did not deny that there was a contact, or did you?
04:18What I denied was that she should go to the physical place
04:21where the sexual attacks would have occurred.
04:24I invited her a long time ago,
04:26even in the last trial,
04:28which they start me for judicial disobedience,
04:31to go to the workplaces of the accused's parents.
04:37I invite the family again to come to my house,
04:40because her granddaughter, her niece,
04:43will be her family all her life.
04:45And shamelessly this procedure appears,
04:49which the truth is very disproportionate,
04:51and they warned the judge.
04:53Did it transcend the attempt of abuse
04:55by the grandfather?
04:57I can not confirm that.
04:59I understand that in Hessel's room
05:01they would have consulted the minor,
05:03and the minor came to cry, or shouted, or did not respond.
05:06But there is.
05:08Are there doubts about this, Germán?
05:10Is that where Bramana sent the attack?
05:12Where it is already.
05:14The doubt is about the participation
05:16that those grandparents had in what the son did.
05:19Of course, it is a cover-up,
05:21a complicity, let's say, to facilitate ...
05:23We are talking about ...
05:25I'm sorry, I can not believe,
05:27sometimes without being able to believe,
05:29sometimes these stories of abuse
05:31of the parents of their children,
05:33and less the complicity of the parents,
05:35that is, of the grandparents,
05:37with their son in abuse.
05:39It was temporarily closed,
05:41because the girl in that room, Hessel,
05:43told him that he did not want to talk about it,
05:45he did not say that it did not exist.
05:47How long ago did you find out about this?
05:49About the situation she was living?
05:51We found out when she counts
05:53in August 2021.
05:55How old were you at that time?
05:57Three and a half years.
05:59Three and a half years and you start counting?
06:01Before I had indicators
06:03that at that time I could not see
06:05that they were of this type
06:07of aberrant facts.
06:09There are very, very, very hard details
06:11in the file, very punctual
06:13and very hard,
06:15how the procedure was.
06:17I can not even think of telling you.
06:19And with all that is in that file
06:21this happens that we are seeing?
06:23But on top of that,
06:25there reinforces the hypothesis
06:27that the defense tells me,
06:29the attempt to psychologically
06:31embezzle the mother,
06:33the cost payment, which is worth
06:35a million and a half pesos,
06:37she has to do it too.
06:39Why?
06:41Of this operation.
06:43Of the operation?
06:45Of the sentence, let's say,
06:47of relinquishment or custody.
06:49But one thing is the sentence
06:51there is no relinquishment,
06:53there is custody and judicial custody
06:55on behalf of the grandparents
06:57and she will also have to pay
06:59the costs of all the lawyers
07:01of this procedure.
07:03There is an intention to affect
07:05psychologically.
07:07It would be interesting to talk
07:09to this judge, if we could
07:11in the program, but at least
07:13for the arguments that should
07:15surely be in a document.
07:17But it would be interesting
07:19I would like to know
07:21what these arguments are,
07:23especially with what you tell
07:25that there is in this file.
07:27Maniel, how is your night going to be?
07:29And my night is going to be,
07:31it's not going to be good,
07:33but it's going to be
07:35waiting for the Christmas miracle.
07:37I have a family,
07:39I have another daughter
07:41who asks to see her sister
07:43because here they not only
07:45violated a girl, but two.
07:47The opinion of neither of them
07:49was respected
07:51and they are the ones
07:53who are being harmed because
07:55today your sister has no contact
07:57with absolutely anyone
07:59from her maternal family
08:01because they do not answer the bell,
08:03they do not answer the messages
08:05and the judge indirectly
08:07by prohibiting me
08:09the approach to my daughter
08:11through any means
08:13or any person.
08:15This is the first time I hear
08:17there are situations where
08:19children are in custody,
08:21they are at home,
08:23they are prohibited for psychiatric reasons,
08:25addiction issues,
08:27many types of situations.
08:29Notice that there are mothers
08:31who committed a crime
08:33and are given the domiciliary
08:35to continue in contact with their children
08:37and here we are talking about a mother
08:39to whom they take away the right
08:41to be with her daughter
08:43and I have to say to the paternal judges
08:45that one thing is, of course,
08:47a visitation regime
08:49and I understand that you are willing
08:51and another thing is
08:53to take away the mother.
08:55I would like to hear
08:57from the judges at the moment
08:59what are these arguments
09:01that for us are incomprehensible.
09:03Thank you Mariel.