Madaris Registration Bil. .. Hukoomat Molana Ko Mananay Mein Kamyaab Hogayi. .?
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00:00Kamran Ustad, we will start with you.
00:03First of all, tell me, this issue has been stuck for a long time,
00:07whether Madaris should register under the Societies Act or not.
00:11Then we saw a difference of opinion in Ulema.
00:14I had put this issue in front of you earlier as well.
00:17Tahir Ashrafi is saying no, Education Ministry.
00:20You were saying Commerce Ministry.
00:22Now, under the Societies Act,
00:25has the issue of registering Madaris been resolved?
00:30Or is it still a long way to go?
00:34I think things are firm.
00:39And since Barrister Sahib is sitting with you,
00:41he is in a better position than me.
00:43He will be able to tell you.
00:45Yesterday, I met with the Prime Minister,
00:49and after that, there were two days when there were no working days.
00:55So, on Monday and Tuesday, I think,
00:58there is hope that things will get better.
01:02What do you mean by better?
01:05Tahir Ashrafi is talking about you.
01:08I think he has given instructions to the Ministry of Parliamentary Affairs
01:15to implement whatever is in the scope of the law.
01:20So, this is what is better.
01:23So, Saint Sahib, the demands that you made,
01:26have they been accepted as they are?
01:29Or is there a difference of opinion?
01:34Things are firm.
01:36When things are firm,
01:38if there is a demand,
01:42then it means that there is an agreement between us.
01:47If you made a demand,
01:49or if he made a demand,
01:51Saint Sahib, just tell us.
01:53Then I will go to Barrister Sahib.
01:55If there is a demand,
01:58then it means that it is also firm.
02:01So, I will say yes.
02:02Things will be fixed.
02:03You will have to change a few things.
02:05I will say no.
02:06I will say no.
02:07Barrister Sahib, please confirm.
02:09Senator Sahib said it beautifully.
02:11He said no, no.
02:12But I will not say yes.
02:13So, you say yes.
02:14Has there been a big change?
02:16Thank you very much, Anika Sahiba.
02:19What Senator Kamran Murtaza said,
02:22I wholeheartedly adopt his arguments.
02:27Because he is also a well-known lawyer.
02:31So, in this discussion or debate,
02:35I will adopt his arguments.
02:37Article 75 of the Constitution
02:40regulates it.
02:41We had a commitment to the Parliament.
02:45We did not go back from the commitment.
02:47I will come to the commitment.
02:48Barrister Sahib, I am sorry,
02:49I am cutting short.
02:50I will come to the commitment.
02:51It was a commitment.
02:52Why was it not fulfilled?
02:53I will come to that as well.
02:54First, tell me,
02:55has there been a big change or not?
02:57What he demanded,
02:59as it is, you said yes.
03:01Or have things changed?
03:02Look, the way I,
03:03Senator Kamran Murtaza,
03:04You will not adopt his argument,
03:06No.
03:07I will say this.
03:09Look, when there is a discussion,
03:11and there was a meeting yesterday,
03:12it was a very positive meeting.
03:13It was a very positive thing.
03:15You know, we moved past things,
03:18and there was a discussion.
03:19And in the discussion,
03:20things were decided.
03:21Now it is time to say this.
03:23And in a day or two,
03:24the result will be in front of you.
03:25Do you think the government
03:26handled it properly?
03:30Look, there is a human attitude.
03:32So, sometimes there is a human attitude.
03:34Sometimes it happens.
03:35Sometimes there is a distance
03:36between friends.
03:38Sometimes,
03:39things are not understood.
03:41Or we do not understand.
03:43Or another friend does not understand.
03:45Or there is a problem
03:46in making us understand.
03:48So, ultimately,
03:49if the matter ends well,
03:51then everything is fine.
03:54But Sahil sahib,
03:55if there was a discussion
03:56between two friends,
03:57If the ultimate is correct,
03:59If there was a discussion
04:00between two friends,
04:02and both of them
04:03were understanding each other,
04:04then was there a third friend
04:05who was not understanding?
04:09So, it is possible
04:10that he was also our third friend.
04:13So, let me understand
04:14that you were also agreeable,
04:15the government was also agreeable,
04:17but the third friend was not agreeable.
04:20No, no.
04:21Mr. Ashrafi was a little...
04:22Mr. Ashrafi's matter
04:23is also getting corrected,
04:24Inshallah.
04:25How is it getting corrected?
04:26The faction he is talking about.
04:30Allah will do good.
04:32Wait for a couple of days.
04:33What is the hurry?
04:34Mr. Hussain,
04:35Allah always does good,
04:36Alhamdulillah.
04:37But I want to ask,
04:39that the concerns
04:40that Mr. Tahir Ashrafi had,
04:42how are they getting corrected?
04:44With keeping an eye on,
04:46your concerns are also getting corrected.
04:48But your concerns
04:49and his concerns
04:50were not matching
04:52in my own program.
04:56No, no.
04:57He was saying
04:58that we have no objection on you.
05:00We say that we have no objection on you.
05:01We don't have any fight.
05:03His statement was also there.
05:04Yes.
05:05When the atmosphere of the fight
05:07was visible,
05:08then sometimes
05:09the hype is created
05:10by sitting on the media.
05:11Sometimes we talk harshly,
05:13sometimes other friends
05:14talk harshly.
05:15So,
05:16when it is realized,
05:18then the matter
05:19also gets corrected.
05:20So, Inshallah,
05:22it will be on Monday or Tuesday.
05:24The matter will be on Monday or Tuesday.
05:26So, you confirm,
05:27Mr. Bairsta,
05:28Monday or Tuesday, max?
05:29Within this week,
05:30Inshallah,
05:31it will be done.
05:32No, don't say within this week.
05:33He is saying Monday or Tuesday.
05:34You don't take it further.
05:35No, I am not taking it further.
05:36Not at all.
05:37We have strict instructions
05:38and instructions have been issued.
05:39From the Prime Minister?
05:40Yes, of course.
05:41And this has also been
05:42widely reported on the media.
05:43And there is no such thing in this.
05:44So,
05:45when the office will open
05:46on Monday,
05:47then we will definitely
05:48do it.
05:49Whether it is Monday or Tuesday,
05:50or Wednesday.
05:51Wednesday can also go.
05:52Look,
05:53Monday or Tuesday,
05:54our effort is that
05:55as soon as possible,
05:56with happiness,
05:57this whole matter,
05:58which has been discussed,
05:59which has been discussed,
06:00which has been discussed,
06:01keeping them in mind,
06:02this will lead to a good
06:03win-win situation.
06:04Okay,
06:05tell me this also,
06:06what took you so long?
06:07You took a lot of time
06:08to come here.
06:09No.
06:10Why?
06:11Look,
06:12one thing is for sure,
06:13as the Senator said,
06:14both are friends.
06:15I think
06:16we got lost
06:17in translation.
06:18This translation
06:19was being done
06:20by the President?
06:21Who was doing this translation?
06:22He is also speaking Urdu.
06:23You are also speaking Urdu.
06:24Which translation?
06:25Look,
06:26it is possible
06:27that someone
06:28who wants to explain
06:29what we want to explain,
06:30or we want to explain
06:31what we want to explain,
06:32or we want to explain
06:33what you wanted to explain,
06:34which Mr. Maulana
06:35did not understand.
06:36So,
06:37we sat down,
06:38we talked,
06:39when we sat face to face
06:40and talked,
06:41when the point of concern
06:42or point of discussion
06:43came up,
06:44then a way
06:45came out.
06:46I will say
06:47that
06:48in the same way.
06:49I want to find
06:50the way of that way.
06:51How did that way
06:52come out?
06:53That way,
06:54you will see
06:55on Monday or Tuesday
06:56how that way
06:57came out.
06:58You will not give
06:59breaking in my show.
07:00I think you have promised.
07:01No, no,
07:02this is not a matter
07:03of breaking.
07:04Look,
07:05this is a very sensitive issue.
07:06In this,
07:07Mr. Maulana
07:08also talked
07:09on the floor
07:10of the house.
07:11And,
07:12even then,
07:13we gave a lot of weightage
07:14to his talk.
07:15And,
07:16even then,
07:17we did not make him
07:18believe.
07:19There was so much weightage
07:20that he did not come
07:21on the 26th.
07:22You promised on the
07:23amendment.
07:24After that,
07:25you made him
07:26believe.
07:27And,
07:28even then,
07:29we did our
07:30work.
07:31If we are told
07:32or if you are
07:33saying that
07:34we have
07:35cheated or
07:36there was
07:37a backstabbing
07:38talk.
07:39No,
07:40not at all.
07:41Please tell me
07:42that Mr. Maulana
07:43made you
07:44wait a lot.
07:45So,
07:46you said
07:47now it is
07:48our turn
07:49and we
07:50make you
07:51wait a little.
07:52This did not
07:53happen.
07:54Your smile
07:55is very
07:56beautiful.