👉 Cecilia Conesa, corresponsal en 9 de Julio, informa sobre los últimos avances en la búsqueda de Loan. Tras cuatro rastrillajes en las lagunas locales, los peritos y el abogado Méndez han descartado la posibilidad de que Loan se encuentre allí. Esta noticia refuerza la hipótesis de que Loan está vivo y fue llevado a otro lugar. Se cuestiona el uso de recursos estatales para estas búsquedas infructuosas.
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00:00Unless Cecilia Conesa surprises us with some information.
00:03Let's see.
00:04Let's see, is it there?
00:05Don't blame us at night.
00:06Let's see, let's go to another one, because we are already in the current with Hanson,
00:09but we are going to another destination, precisely on July 9,
00:12which is Cecilia Conesa, who can give us the forecast for tomorrow.
00:16It seems that it is going to be hot.
00:20Change the music for me.
00:22I would say Johnny Allen, there it is.
00:24Ceci Conesa, who goes up to 1 TV early.
00:26We change from Luis Miguel and we go with Shakira.
00:28She likes it.
00:29With Shakira.
00:31The correct Shakira.
00:32The correct Shakira.
00:33Yes, correct.
00:34How good.
00:38How is the weather, Ceci?
00:39How are you?
00:40How are you?
00:41Good afternoon.
00:42A lot of heat, now there is a lot of wind.
00:44I should tie my hair, but hey.
00:46There is a lot of wind.
00:48Yesterday it rained, that's why yesterday the tracking ended very early.
00:55The question is that four tracks were already made in the four lagoons
00:59where the tracks were determined.
01:02Today the tracks were completely determined,
01:05which gave a negative result.
01:09Well, the experts came out to speak and Dr. Mendes also came out to speak.
01:15Well, this negative result increases the hypothesis
01:19that the baby was taken away,
01:21because, well, it was a tracking where specialists worked,
01:26staff of the Federal System for the Search of People,
01:29and also dogs trained to detect traces on the surface of the water.
01:35Yes, yes.
01:36Well, this, yes.
01:38I saw you early on while you were interviewing José Massey, the expert,
01:43the one who took the dogs, also Roberto Mendes.
01:47I noticed that you were very low, right?
01:49I don't know if, maybe I have some prejudice and I already see it that way,
01:53but you were trying to explain something that was absolutely unfruitful,
01:59almost as if you had known it in advance, right?
02:04Yes, they are with low energies.
02:06The truth is that it is a difficult situation.
02:09We also have to understand that a few days ago
02:11a person who was linked to lawyer Mendes appeared dead.
02:15This was also very sad for lawyer Mendes,
02:19he noticed it with tiredness, sadness.
02:22Even today, when he went out to talk to us,
02:24after the tracking started at 8 in the morning
02:29and ended around 12.30 noon,
02:32well, they reported that there were negative results.
02:36How was the expertise? Why?
02:38They were tired, sad, exhausted.
02:41The truth is that it is a situation that makes the whole country sad.
02:45Now I lost the feedback, so I'm not listening to you,
02:49but well, I'll tell you in the meantime.
02:51We are at this point, at point 0.
02:55This is the way to Grandma Catalina's house
02:59and the way that leads to the lagoons.
03:02Let's remember, the lagoons that were tracked today
03:07and yesterday.
03:09There were several lagoons,
03:11the ones that were tracked were four.
03:13One lagoon is located in the Peres y Caillava building.
03:21Can you hear us there, Ceci?
03:25The first lagoon is located at the bottom of the Peres y Caillava field.
03:31I think it stayed...
03:32Can you hear us?
03:33Can you hear us, Ceci?
03:34If not, let's reconnect.
03:37Now yes.
03:38Perfect.
03:39We have signal to transmit,
03:42but the signal on the phone is very low.
03:44Ceci?
03:45Now yes, now yes, I can hear you.
03:46Lucia greets you. How are you?
03:48The lagoon that is located in the Peres y Caillava territory
03:54had already been tracked, right?
03:56Beyond the other three that you mentioned.
03:59Yes, they are lagoons and hectares that were already tracked
04:03when LOAN disappeared,
04:05when it was filled with people who helped in the search.
04:10Yes, the first days.
04:11From all over the country.
04:12Firefighters, police, gendarmerie.
04:14Yes, the first days.
04:15They are lagoons and hectares that were already tracked.
04:18More precisely, more than 20,000 hectares were tracked
04:22that today, well, these lagoons belong to these hectares already tracked.
04:27I ask you...
04:28Yes, tell me.
04:30I ask you, Ceci, so that there are no doubts.
04:34Was there any lagoon lost by tracking?
04:38A puddle.
04:39A puddle produced by yesterday's rain?
04:42No.
04:43Some algae?
04:44Because it comes to my mind,
04:47to Kodasi, right?
04:49Saying that he was fully sure that the boy was in a lagoon.
04:54I don't know, I don't know if he had said seven meters under the water.
04:59His lawyer also repeating the same thing.
05:02I say, to be sure.
05:04So that if tomorrow we interview them again,
05:07they don't come to us with the same verse.
05:09That's it.
05:10Let's say, it's a closed case that Loan is in a lagoon, right?
05:14Except that they plant it, logically.
05:17Yes, at least that is the information they gave from the experts.
05:21And the lawyer Mendez, who was found here today in the tracking,
05:25they said that this is totally ruled out,
05:28that it is good news,
05:30because this feeds, as I was telling you,
05:32the hypothesis that Loan is alive,
05:34and that Loan was taken away.
05:36It is revoked, right?
05:37Of course.
05:38I had already heard.
05:39The first time they told me that it was good news,
05:43the bad news,
05:44I said, well, the experts will have a different way of reasoning.
05:49Now it seems to me a sovereign nonsense, right?
05:52What?
05:53That the expertise that they asked for like three times,
05:56three months ago,
05:57that they insisted,
05:58where resources were allocated,
06:00that many said this is unfruitful,
06:03that's it,
06:04that they have done it and that they come out to say
06:07that the negative result is good news
06:10because the hypothesis is ruled out
06:12that the baby, that Loan is,
06:15has drowned or has been thrown there.
06:19It's like they're wasting our time
06:22and they're taking our hair.
06:24They also scratched a lagoon
06:26that is located in the hectares of a neighbor.
06:29I don't know if you remember the first neighbor
06:31who had said he heard the cry of a baby calling his mother
06:36when the disappearance of Loan was just known,
06:38the neighbor Abundio.
06:40Well, Abundio, sorry.
06:43He had said this,
06:45he had testified before the authorities
06:47that he had heard the cry of a child
06:49that same day that Loan disappears.
06:51They scratched that area
06:53and today they scratch this area again.
06:55It's a little more of the same.
06:57This type of scratching is not understood much.
07:00Yes, yes, no, no.
07:01It's not that it's not understood much.
07:02It's a pagada.
07:03More than 500 people from all over the country
07:05were here scratching these areas,
07:07more than 20,000 hectares.
07:09They didn't find any trace,
07:11nor specialized dogs found any trace.
07:14It's like the body floats, guys.
07:16They're wasting time.
07:18They look like defense attorneys.
07:20Yes, of course, of course, of course.
07:22Constructing, deviating.
07:24Aligning with Codazzi, with the lawyer.
07:26Practically, they're talking about the accident again.
07:28It's perverse to sit down
07:30and praise Codazzi's sayings at the time.
07:32That's really perverse.
07:34A person who praises the sayings of Codazzi,
07:37the NN Codazzi, is really perverse.
07:39What do you think I'm telling you?
07:41And more acting in the role he plays.
07:43Put me the image there of the lagoons.
07:45Let's be exhaustive with the subject.
07:47If there are no doubts, we close.
07:50There are the four lagoons. They're beautiful, right?
07:52Yes.
07:53We're going there.
07:54Are we going to swim there tomorrow?
07:56Yes, we can go.
07:57Yes, the only thing the lagoons are good for
07:59is to do some long ones.
08:01There's the orange one.
08:03We have to see if they're going to be able to get to the lagoons.
08:05Let's see this one.
08:07No, we have to see if they're going to be able to get to the lagoons.
08:11Because what happened today with us
08:13and all the media here
08:15is that the lagoons remain
08:17a private property.
08:19There's a lock,
08:21which is closed.
08:23Even today, the firemen and all the people
08:25who worked on the search
08:27had to wait for it to open
08:29to be able to enter.
08:31Let's go and ask for permission. We're polite.
08:33How many hours did it last?
08:35Wasn't it going to drain?
08:37That we had to get everything out of the way?
08:39No, no. The dogs had to go first.
08:41The dogs first.
08:42If the dogs sniffed something, they got off the buses.
08:44If the buses detected something,
08:46they got off the buses.
08:48I understand that the drainage was the last part.
08:50I don't know if it was.
08:52Of course, the drainage was the last part.
08:54First, exactly as you just mentioned,
08:56on the floor.
08:58First, the dogs would get on
09:00a kind of boat.
09:02When the dog detects
09:04a smell
09:06or something that the dog detects,
09:08the buses would enter
09:10in that place
09:12where the dog detects something.
09:14The busses would enter
09:16and after the busses entered
09:18and the busses didn't find anything,
09:20that's when the drain
09:22drained the place.
09:24Listen, that was
09:26almost seven months.
09:28If it wasn't seven months,
09:30how many days have we been?
09:32Six months.
09:34Since the disappearance of the dog.
09:36Six months, if I'm not mistaken.
09:38189 days, as the graph says.
09:40It's impossible.
09:42More than six months,
09:44those places were searched.
09:46But no, no, apart from that,
09:48apart from that,
09:50his bridge...
09:52I'm talking about Lohan.
09:54Anyone who
09:56falls or
09:58gets stuck down
10:00with a rake, whatever,
10:02after six months,
10:04there's no body, no smell.
10:06There's nothing.
10:08What you feel
10:10in the dogs is when you move
10:12the lagoon, river, sea,
10:14whatever, what the dog feels
10:16are the gases that
10:18lengthen the body.
10:20When the dog is sniffing,
10:22you see it sniffing with the snout,
10:24what it's looking for is that.
10:26After six months, it won't sniff anything.
10:28Of course.
10:30No, no, it's not.
10:32It was known that it would give
10:34a negative result.
10:36It's permanent.
10:38It's a display
10:40that looks like a joke.
10:42It looks like a joke.
10:44If he paid for it,
10:46as the federal justice asked...
10:48The rest of the team
10:50is paid by the state.
10:52Of course.
10:54What they had to pay,
10:56as I understand it,
10:58is simply to provide the canes
11:00with their corresponding transport.
11:02To depilate.
11:04The rest is paid
11:06by the state.
11:08By the state.
11:10Of course, there are resources
11:12from the state.
11:14They are based on the theory
11:16that you just said
11:18by Dr. Kodasi,
11:20because it was said by Laudelina.
11:22I wouldn't have given it so much...
11:24Let's do it, of course.
11:26We have to do it.
11:28But if we say once, it gave a negative result,
11:30we have to do it twice.
11:32They didn't give any results
11:34to come back.
11:36We have to do it again.
11:40You don't have any more excuses.
11:42There is no more...
11:44If the dogs that came that day
11:46were cold,
11:48next week we ask for another one?
11:50I don't understand.
11:52I understand that the hypothesis
11:54was buried with this.
11:56They stole it.
11:58It's not in Algarrobal,
12:00so we are in a position
12:02to say that Aloa was
12:04abducted
12:06and he is no more.
12:08We don't know the end.
12:10Or where he is.
12:12And if he is alive.
12:14If he is alive.
12:16The most important thing is to know
12:18if he is alive.
12:20And the justice is not giving
12:22any explanation.
12:24Tomorrow you will go to the place
12:26of the fact, but it is not giving
12:28any explanation.
12:32Omar, I want
12:34explanations from everyone.
12:36Everyone.
12:38But also from the province.
12:40Because if they turned the case,
12:42declined the competition
12:44and sent it to the Federal Court
12:46because they said they were in the lead
12:48and there is no deal,
12:50what happened?
12:52And who is the judge?
12:54Who received
12:56monetary money to work
12:58and did not work?
13:00For example,
13:02so that people understand,
13:04why I am not going to do
13:06and I demand the same thing
13:08that I demand from everyone
13:10to the Federal Court.
13:12But I also have to be aware of something.
13:14For example, you competed
13:16the other day in a boat race, right?
13:18And if I make you go out 20 days later
13:20to run, what happens?
13:22Obviously you will not reach the goal.
13:24And I try to do my best
13:26to get to the end.
13:28Here, obviously, the root
13:30was rotten and then
13:32they started to throw the cause
13:34where they could, to see if they subsidized
13:36the mistakes made by the
13:38first instance prosecution, by the
13:40first instance guarantee judge
13:42of ordinary justice.
13:44So, really believe now
13:46that a federal judge or that the
13:48federal justice has a magic wand
13:50and will find out the truth when the evidence
13:52was smoked, when everything was
13:54obstructed, when evidence was destroyed.
13:56Not only the lawyers,
13:58the defendants,
14:00the defenders,
14:02even you, the same journalists,
14:04working, destroying evidence.
14:06So, really, now that the federal justice
14:08goes and from one day to the other
14:10finds and does ...
14:12Today the expectation is put
14:14on people.
14:16Of course.
14:18There is a reserved file with psychological
14:20expertise on Macarena
14:22and on Camila.
14:24There are testimonial statements
14:26next week, next Thursday
14:28at 9.30
14:30in the morning and at 11.30
14:32both will have to answer
14:34the questions that the judge has
14:36all his team,
14:38prosecutors too.
14:40I think there may be
14:42some news.
14:44In the next ...
14:46Of course, but in the people.
14:48In the expertise, right?
14:50Yes, in the next ...
14:52You have to free Ceci.
14:54Ceci, great,
14:56but great work.
14:58Tomorrow, I don't know if we will cross paths,
15:00so if you want to
15:02go looking for something to eat,
15:04we will surely arrive hungry,
15:06so we are already eating from ...
15:08We have breakfast, lunch, everything.
15:10Ceci,
15:12it's up to you to see
15:14the subject of food, subsistence.
15:16Well, it was cut off,
15:18you heard half of it, but well, yes,
15:20tomorrow we are waiting for you, Nahuel.
15:22We will continue working here,
15:24waiting for some answers,
15:26and well, as they said there on the floor,
15:28next week there are statements
15:30before the judge of Las Primas de León.
15:32Well, thanks Ceci.
15:34Notice that tomorrow we want to have breakfast.
15:36Kisses. Bye.