PTI Protest Mein Ju Howa, Kya Nawaz Sharif Us Sab Say Anjaan Thay?
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00:00Then let's come to the other side. Yesterday, as I said, Mr. Shahid was also with me.
00:03This idea came to me from there, so that I can explain to you where politics is going now.
00:07But Mr. Zubair, Mr. Mian remained silent on 26th November.
00:12Mr. Shahid thought that this is the politics of Shahbaz Sharif.
00:15Nawaz Sharif has never done such politics.
00:17I mean, what happened in Islamabad, the way...
00:19So, he was very clear that Mr. Mian will be like this.
00:22It is not possible that Mr. Mian will be like this.
00:24But this is happening, Mr. Mian is silent.
00:26Okay, Mr. Zubair, do you think that Mr. Mian Nawaz Sharif has a role to solve the problems in the current situation?
00:34But that role is neither visible nor is it visible.
00:37Do you agree with both of them?
00:41I don't agree. I'm sorry.
00:43I agree with almost everything that Mr. Shahid Khan says.
00:47But the benefit that he gives to Mr. Mian Nawaz Sharif, that he can't do this,
00:54that is very powerful.
00:55You will also agree, the whole of Pakistan will agree.
00:57He can tell Mr. Shahbaz Sharif what happened on 26th November, why it happened.
01:01In fact, to be careful before that,
01:03before that, the kind of situation that the government had created,
01:07and was continuously creating,
01:09every month, every two months, the containers that were installed,
01:12so he knew that he was so politically intelligent,
01:15that there would be a confrontation and there would be a fight.
01:18So, he can play his role.
01:21Once he gives a shut-up call to Mr. Shahbaz Sharif,
01:23he can't do anything.
01:25I'm telling you, yesterday I told Mr. Shahid,
01:27I agree with you,
01:29that if Mr. Mian wants, he can play a big role,
01:35he can solve the problems, but he doesn't want to.
01:37Do you agree?
01:39Secondly, one very important thing,
01:41about Mr. Mian, I know Mr. Mian,
01:43and I have heard this from him thousands of times,
01:45you call your opponents your enemies.
01:49Now, the enemy has given the status of an enemy.
01:51The way you said, the policy of holding and pushing,
01:53and the way the beatings are taking place,
01:55and the way the destruction of democratic institutions is taking place,
01:59earlier they used to say that they won't let Faiz Hamid come,
02:02because if he becomes the prime minister,
02:04then the situation of the constitution will deteriorate.
02:07Is there any left in the constitution?
02:09I mean, which one clause,
02:11which identifies democracy,
02:18I mean, you have closed all the ways for democratic forces.
02:22So, Mr. Mian Nawaz Sharif,
02:24directly, if you give him the benefit,
02:26Mr. Shahid, he can give it,
02:28I don't think so,
02:30I think he is in it,
02:32and his helplessness,
02:34has brought him to such a corner in his politics,
02:36from where he can't get out.
02:38Mr. Mian,
02:42do you think Mr. Mian has a role in the current situation?
02:46Because it seems like,
02:48when the government has been formed,
02:50on one hand, there is the government of Maryam Nawaz Sahiba in Punjab,
02:53and he has to run it,
02:55and to run it,
02:57he has to remain silent for the reasons he has.
02:59I don't think Mr. Shahbaz is that important for him.
03:02As far as Punjab's government is concerned,
03:04Mr. Mian Nawaz Sharif will remain silent,
03:06and one day, by giving the party to Maryam Nawaz,
03:08he will be on the political side.
03:10Do you think this can happen in the near future?
03:13Look Kashif,
03:15what you are saying,
03:17Mr. Zubair,
03:19I agree with you,
03:21that a lot of people
03:23are saying,
03:25or we are seeing,
03:27that the doors of democracy
03:29have been closed to a great extent,
03:31and democracy
03:33is a bad name.
03:35I agree with this.
03:37The reason is that
03:39in the last 77 years,
03:41we have seen a lot of times
03:43where the voice of democracy
03:45is being silenced,
03:47democracy is breathing,
03:49it is on the ventilator,
03:51and sometimes the patient
03:53comes out of the hospital
03:55and is shouting
03:57in the square.
03:59But,
04:01this system
04:03was in greater danger
04:05when it came in 2018.
04:07Mr. Zubair,
04:10you are right,
04:12that in 2018,
04:14the hybrid system
04:16was in greater danger.
04:18Is this correct?
04:20Yes.
04:22Then,
04:24in 2018,
04:26the person who was brought in,
04:28and the people who were brought in,
04:30and there was a tricot
04:32at that time,
04:34the Chief Justice,
04:36the Army Chief,
04:38the IG, ISI,
04:40all of them brought in Imran,
04:42and the results they got from him,
04:44they divided the democracy,
04:46the economy,
04:48the state.
04:50Sir, and after 2022,
04:52did you improve the democracy
04:54or did you ruin it further?
04:56Was there a tricot at that time?
04:58No.
05:00In 2022,
05:02when we came in,
05:04we caused more damage.
05:07We caused more damage
05:09by saying that
05:11to save the economy,
05:13to save the state,
05:15we are sacrificing our politics.
05:17This did not benefit the state.
05:19Yes,
05:21our intention could have been
05:23to benefit the state.
05:25It was a lie.
05:27You are speaking the truth.
05:29Basically,
05:31your job is to do politics.
05:33When you make a wrong decision,
05:35you should have gone to the elections.
05:37Instead of going to the elections,
05:39you decided to run the government.
05:41You should have taken a different path.
05:43You said, we sacrificed our politics
05:45and saved the country.
05:47This is wrong.
05:49Mr. Zubair,
05:51will you tell us
05:53the wrong slogans you were using?
05:55Mr. Zubair,
05:57after listening to Mr. Zubair,
05:59you can come back.
06:01Mr. Zubair,
06:04you are a witness.
06:06I was a witness
06:08because I was a part of the economic team.
06:10It was said very clearly
06:12that we will come back in 3-6 months.
06:14Mr. Shehwaz Sharif
06:16publicly said that
06:18the economy will recover.
06:20You have created such a mess
06:22in the economy
06:24that no one has created such a mess
06:26in the history of Pakistan.
06:28The people have never seen such an inflation.
06:30The purchasing power of the people
06:32has started to slide.
06:34Your slogan
06:36was wrong.
06:38You said, we will recover the economy
06:40and the people will stand with us.
06:42When the economy started to deteriorate,
06:44you started using slogans
06:46that you came to save the country.
06:48You are not a contractor
06:50of the country.
06:52Any political party
06:54comes under the mandate of the people
06:56and it is their responsibility
06:58to save the country.
07:01But the happiness of the people
07:03is the responsibility of every government.
07:05This is not a balancing act
07:07that we will save the people
07:09and create problems for the people.
07:11We will create problems for the people
07:13and then we will recover the country.
07:15What was the fear of which country?
07:17Was there a golden era in Pakistan
07:19when Pakistan saw such a bad era
07:21that we said that we will jump in
07:23and we will save the country.
07:25The country is made
07:27with the happiness of the people.
07:29Yes, you are right.
07:31As I was saying,
07:33when we came to Pakistan,
07:35we came on the basis
07:37that we will recover the country
07:39but when the economy deteriorated,
07:41we started using slogans.
07:43This is also a part of politics.
07:45Your slogans did not work.
07:47This was an attempt to create problems.