👉 Muerte dudosa de Alejandro Pata, un colaborador en el caso quien hacía de chofer de los padres del menor. Las primas y los padres de Loan, Macarena, Camila, Peña, José y María, están a la espera de declarar en relación con la hipótesis del accidente que involucra a Pérez y Caillava. Se esperan los resultados de pericias accidentológicas y telefónicas para descartar cualquier vínculo con Loan. Se menciona una posible traición por parte del abogado Méndez, quien ha estado activamente llamando a colegas. También se destaca la presencia de un perito cercano a Méndez que apareció muerto recientemente.
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00:00They are going to declare the cousins and Loan's father, are we talking about the cousins? Macarena, Camila, Peña, and the father, the parents, both José and María, are going to wait too, they are waiting, we had told you at some point, for these days, the results of the accidentological and telephonic tests.
00:27And when we talk about the accidentological of these tests, Marcelo, again, we end up focusing on the supposed possibility of an accident that involves Pérez and Acaillaba, right?
00:40Yes, hello, Pablo, I think that the tests, according to what the claimants explained when they asked, is to rule out that there is nothing related to the Loan, or in their case, if there is something, to check what there is.
01:03That is the explanation that they gave, because the justice had already said that it tracked those places several times, and as a consequence, well, as it is a request from the court, the judge took place and put the limits and the way they have to do that pending appeal, but it is nothing new, it is something that was already done.
01:31And as it was requested, because according to them it was done wrong, well, now they have the possibility of doing it.
01:38When you say, sorry Marcelo, when you say.
01:40But it does not endorse any theory.
01:42When you say, no, no, let's see, it is not that it endorses the theory of the accident, of course, but clearly it needs to be ruled out at least.
01:53If they are waiting for accidental inquiries, which will arrive practically at the same time as these tracks, because the tracks will have a beginning and then surely a result, but they will be arriving practically at the same time, and then the hearings that were planned for these days are postponed.
02:09Those hearings with the cousins and with the father that you say can throw some surprise.
02:17Well, there again, Pablo, the same, that is, the judge, I don't know if it's going out with delay, maybe that's why we're not stepping on it, I don't know how you hear me there.
02:28Perfect.
02:30I believe that the judge takes care that all parties can participate in all test acts, that is, the tracks, the testimonials, the inquiries are all test measures and that some part that does not participate or cannot participate,
02:47obviously it can then ask for a repetition or feel affected and raise an annulment if it obtains any result of that test in which it is prevented from participating by superposition, it would be.
03:00Very good. Let's see, I add you to Fito Baquet, our man of law here on the program. When we talk about reserved reports, what is justice about?
03:10Those documents that were not yet public access, do they have another particularity? What are we talking about, Fito?
03:15Well, it depends on the legislation, Pablo. Many times they allow the prosecutors the codes, it is not that it is an exoterism that they do what they want.
03:28Many times there are two types of reserved reports, the one that allows the law and the one that they incorporate late.
03:34Many times you have the information and you incorporate it late to the file so that the parties do not see it and there are other reserved reports or reserved files that allow the one who is carrying out the investigation to have a parallel legacy that later turns it over.
03:52Very good.
03:53So it's playing a little.
03:55Well, let's see, what are we talking about then in this particular case, Marcelo?
03:59Do these reports have to do with technological expertise and those that we were talking about, accidentology, or does it have to do with another matter?
04:07Look, the impression I have is that they have to do more than anything related to the private life of these two people and with the minors in charge.
04:17So that's why I think the reports have been reserved for the purposes of avoiding leaks regarding them.
04:24But obviously that the parties, when we have to question, we can ask for access to that information that if the judge considers it appropriate to know the content in order to be able to evaluate the testimony.
04:44When you talk to me about this reserved report about the private life of the cousins or the reality of Macarena and Camila, did I understand you well?
04:57I have a very bad feedback. I'm not listening to you.
05:00You're not listening to me.
05:02Well, now we try to correct it. Reserved reports, then look at everything that was happening or will happen in the next few days.
05:10But I want to start, we wanted to start today, Nahuel was already working with this circumstance that took us by surprise from the morning very early.
05:21At the moment when they begin to connect with us, current journalists, making sure that El Pata, as the driver was known there, because he is the person that you are going to see during the first 15 days, even a few more months.
05:38He was here, Pablo.
05:39He was here.
05:40He was here in the studio with José and with Méndez.
05:44When Méndez was still talking.
05:46Yes.
05:47When he had the voice.
05:48Méndez, they tell me today, I want to go first with the title.
05:51Sorry.
05:52And we are going to get into it, because there is really a shock for this death.
05:57If something was missing in this case, after six months, it is that the person who drove the trucks in which he traveled, Méndez himself, with the Loa family, appears dead.
06:10We saw it in that circumstance, we also saw it here in Buenos Aires.
06:14There was an intern who got to such a point that he ended up being displaced.
06:19This man Alejandro Pata ends up being displaced from the team of collaborators.
06:24There was a problem there of money, Pablo.
06:26Economy.
06:27Yes.
06:28There was a problem of money.
06:29And he did not come.
06:30Well, for 10 million pesos there is a conflict.
06:34He wanted to return it.
06:36He wanted to donate it to the volunteers.
06:39In the middle appears, according to the information that we are getting to know in recent hours, a family discussion that had been prolonged.
06:49Some say, no, this is not so.
06:51The truth is that there is a death.
06:53In the case of Loa, we have it back?
06:56Well, we have it back.
06:58There is a death in the case of Loa.
07:00These images, something we told you yesterday, in that truck are Mendes, Pata, one of Loa's brothers, and the father.
07:10And they go through, and they go through, and it was practically the driver until something happened.
07:16They fought, you saw the friends who fought.
07:18The fights are for money or for women, Pablo.
07:20There it is.
07:22The one that ends badly.
07:24Or look, this is also recorded by a journalist who follows the case very closely, Marcelo Chulo Benitez.
07:32He spoke with his grandmother.
07:34Now in a little while we are going to connect him again.
07:36They all start commenting on us and even describe the scene of what happened to us.
07:40But today it is a dubious death.
07:43Because there is a person who appears with a shot in the heart, after 13 or 14 shots inside the house.
07:50In the middle of a supposed family dispute, a fight, a discussion.
07:54His children would be present at the time of the shot.
07:59We have a colleague who even communicated today, trying to get information.
08:04But it is a shot in the chest and a dubious death, of course.
08:09Especially because the wife, Pata's partner, is a police officer.
08:17You have to see who is going to investigate and if this is going to be investigated or not.
08:20If there is going to be an autopsy.
08:22At this time they were saying that they could possibly bury the body without doing any kind of autopsy.
08:28But the truth is that what they were telling us about what this man felt,
08:35in principle as a betrayal of Mendez himself,
08:38led to the fact that for the first time after so long,
08:42Mendez, they tell us, began to call different colleagues
08:47and was very active today with his phone, apparently persecuted for the guilt,
08:53not because he had something to do with it,
08:55but because they came after a long-term friendship with a kind of accusation of betrayal.
09:03Did they have any relationship with Pablo's hunter club?
09:07Exactly.
09:09Exactly.
09:13Look, because in addition, another character appears in the scene,
09:19who is an expert, who is very close to Roberto Mendez,
09:24and it is this person who was looking for the first day,
09:27she has felt displaced.
09:29We are not saying that this is the cause, because it is something that is being investigated.
09:34I don't know if we have, are you Marcelo?
09:36Marcelo, are you there?
09:38Hello, yes, I'm here.
09:40I want to ask you a question, Pablo, prior to this topic.
09:43Go ahead.
09:45Marcelo, there you saw that they are going to quote, to declare,
09:50to make a testimonial statement.
09:55Is it a strategic move to call it a testimonial,
09:59because they have the obligation to tell the truth,
10:03and at any time they can turn the testimonial into an inquiry,
10:08that having called it an inquiry where they could be silenced.
10:12What is your opinion on that, Marcelo?
10:14That it is not a medular fact.
10:18I will try to guess what you said, but I think I understood.
10:23I also believe the same as the judge,
10:26the appointment under oath, that is, as witnesses,
10:30to avoid being silenced and not to say anything else.
10:34They will have to explain very well, under oath,
10:38issues that have already been declared,
10:41because let's remember that Camila and Macarena
10:44declared before the prosecutors.
10:46Although the statement at the provincial headquarters,
10:50which was in the form of an interview, is very poor,
10:53that is, very low,
10:55then they declared before the prosecutors,
10:57and there they were a little wider.
10:59Now with the new evidence of the cause,
11:03there are many issues that they will have to explain,
11:06and with luxury of details,
11:08because I think both the judge and the rest of the parties
11:12are going to ask a lot.
11:14Very well.
11:15At 16.12, meanwhile, you see a small frame on our screen,
11:19because a fire is being controlled in the golf club,
11:22here in Palermo, just here.
11:24It had already started a few hours ago.
11:27We are live at that moment.
11:28At any time we will make contact with Gabriel Prosperi.
11:32I ask you, Marcelo,
11:35you were surprised, I imagine,
11:37the death of such a close collaborator,
11:40the person who drove the truck
11:42that took José Peña everywhere.
11:49Yes, Paulito, I didn't hear you well at the beginning,
11:52but yes, this person is surprised
11:55by the original relationship he had with Lohan's father,
12:00with Lohan's family,
12:02and with the family's first lawyer,
12:04that is, with Dr. Méndez.
12:06The relationship was very close,
12:08which was abruptly cut from one day to the next,
12:11and well, the explanations that were given
12:14were only from this man, Alejandro Pata,
12:19and via television.
12:22We had analyzed with Monti at the time,
12:26to quote him as a witness,
12:28because he was, from the first moment,
12:31working with the family in the investigation.
12:34You know that yesterday we gave information,
12:37which also came to us,
12:39regarding a supposedly discovery
12:42of different types of manipulation on the family.
12:45I don't know if you know anything about that,
12:48or if at first you don't think so,
12:51but well, we heard how wonderful the police worked,
12:54how wonderful the prosecution worked,
12:57and it turns out that it wasn't that wonderful, right?
13:01Yes, well, I mean,
13:04sometimes information comes up
13:07that puts questions in doubt,
13:11because precisely they were not done in time and shape
13:15as it should be done, right?
13:17Of course.
13:18There is the doubt that arises,
13:20anyone who watches television,
13:22if it was done by accident or on purpose.
13:25Wrong.
13:27Do you mean the police officer or the prosecutor?
13:30Of all, of all.
13:32Well, that is the doubt that has been floating, right?
13:34Fito, for six months,
13:36finally, if the police who were investigating
13:39end up with the detainee commissioner,
13:41with the Ministry of Security,
13:43the minister displaced,
13:45clearly something happened there.
13:47And the truth is that it was...
13:49But look, look, Pablo.
13:52There goes Fito.
13:54Yes.
14:01Yes.
14:17They didn't want to tell you.
14:24Yes.
14:30Of course, of course.
14:31Let's see, give me a minute.
14:32Tell me, Fito.
14:39No, no, no, no.
14:40Not there, Fito.
14:43Ah, they took her,
14:44but not in terms of delay, you say.
14:46But she was, she was at the police station, she was, right?
14:52Free.
14:54And wasn't it that Maciel wanted to arrest Laudelina immediately?
14:58Well, that's what Maciel says in his statement, yes.
15:00And why didn't he arrest her?
15:02And what is the difference in behavior or freedom
15:05between Laudelina and...
15:08Benitez and Millapi, for example.
15:10I hear it very badly, Fito.
15:12I'm not hearing anything right now.
15:14It's hard for me to start a dialogue
15:16if you don't hear us, poor Marcelo.
15:18Let's see, did you want to ask something?
15:20Is Lautaro Villamor with us?
15:22Thank you for coming, Lautaro.
15:23Please, it's a pleasure.
15:24No, I'm still getting the feeling, Marcelo,
15:26beyond the details,
15:28that a person very close to the family dies,
15:31beyond the reserved reports,
15:33but going back to zero.
15:35This is the only cause in the world
15:36that the further it goes, the further we are from the solution.
15:39How do you read it?
15:41How do you feel it?
15:42What do you think will change this?
15:44What are we closer to,
15:46to know what really matters?
15:49Let's see.
15:53I don't know, Marcelo, if you heard the question.
15:56No, I couldn't hear it.
15:58And if you didn't hear mine,
15:59you couldn't hear mine either.
16:01Let's improve communication,
16:03because otherwise it's a dialogue of deaf people.
16:07Let's go back to the real shock of today,
16:11with this death in the case,
16:13because the truth is that the only thing missing
16:15was a fact like this,
16:16especially because he was one of the first collaborators
16:19at the time, especially on time,
16:22when provincial justice had the cause
16:26and everything they were doing was being registered.
16:29For example, we have the record,
16:32now we put it,
16:33of that finding,
16:35a boot on top of a refrigerator
16:38in an abandoned school,
16:40or in a tapera, actually,
16:42because you have an abandoned school, a tapera.
16:45All those places were visited
16:47by these people with this truck,
16:50driven by Alejandro Pata himself,
16:53the man who drives this truck that you see
16:56and who took the father,
16:58was this person who appears dead at dawn today.
17:01He took a part of the truth of this cause, Pablo.
17:06I think so.
17:08Why?
17:10Because he was with Mendes
17:12and with the father and the brothers
17:15from the first moment.
17:17When you listen to the audios,
17:20he, as he had a police partner,
17:23alive, right?
17:25His wife, the mother of his children,
17:27the police.
17:28He spoke very well of the police,
17:30but they tell me that with the passage of time
17:32he began to distrust what happened
17:34with the police in Corrientes.
17:36They were hunters,
17:37they had a dispute with,
17:39I don't know if the department of flora and fauna,
17:42of course, because they went hunting.
17:44Because there is a reserve.
17:46They accused that there are hyenas.
17:48There are hyenas.
17:49They say, Mendes and him,
17:51they say that in Corrientes there are hyenas,
17:53which is an animal from Africa
17:55that has attracted a billionaire
17:57who has a very big dispute there.
17:59I didn't know.
18:00When he was here,
18:01because it was the time that Bullrich received them.
18:03Yes.
18:04Let's see, guys, when we can,
18:06we have an audio,
18:08let's listen to what this man said
18:10who appeared dead with a shot in the heart
18:12at dawn today.
18:16Everyone is afraid.
18:18This province is too corrupt,
18:21very mafioso.
18:22Do you understand?
18:23And we are exposing ourselves a lot,
18:25but we don't want to expose the owner.
18:29Do you understand?
18:31There we heard him.
18:32There we heard Alejandro Pata.
18:35We are in contact right now.
18:37We are connecting to Rafael Palacios,
18:39who is a journalist who is speaking
18:41directly with one of the children.
18:43That's why it seems important to us.
18:45Another colleague of ours here in the production
18:47communicated.
18:48They assured us that a shot was fired in front of the family.
18:51It amazes me.
18:53This version completely amazes me,
18:56within what is a dubious death,
18:58at least until now.
18:59In the event of suicide, Pablo,
19:01if the shot was fired,
19:03always remember
19:05who chooses to commit suicide
19:07with a shot in the heart.
19:09Pablo de Favaloro,
19:10the honest guy who is not heard,
19:12who finally sacrifices himself.
19:15At least I understand what you are saying.
19:19It is usually associated with a passion issue,
19:23not a money problem or anything
19:26that is always in the head,
19:28or that honest guy who has something here.
19:32Of course.
19:33Be careful, Pablo.
19:34A very great anguish.
19:35A very great anguish here.
19:37Look, I'm going to tell you small elements
19:39that were transmitted to me today.
19:42But obviously now when we talk to Palacios,
19:45Rafael Palacios,
19:46a journalist from Corrientes,
19:48he will bring us the freshest information
19:50because he just spoke with his son.
19:52But they tell us that the question of the money,
19:56you remember,
19:57there was a collection made from this program,
20:00no, but from the previous one,
20:02but continuously in this program
20:04and also in the rest of the television channels.
20:06That is, not only us,
20:08it has been done through this screen.
20:11We were the initiators on this channel.
20:14Yes, but the rest of the others,
20:16a lot of money had been raised
20:19to help the OAM family.
20:21Because you imagine,
20:22in the middle of the cause,
20:23they are left without a job,
20:24they do not have to eat,
20:25they live in very humble conditions,
20:27this family.
20:28So people are solid.
20:30The lawyer charged them.
20:32Well, but up to there.
20:33Well, I say.
20:34Yes, well, up to there I did not know this.
20:37And supposedly,
20:38it is in the flow of money that arrives,
20:41that suddenly they set up a foundation,
20:44that suddenly the lawyer is paid a money,
20:47I do not want to say how much,
20:48and apparently there was,
20:50I do not know if he knew very well,
20:52the situation of Pata,
20:53of Alejandro Pata,
20:54because in the end they said
20:56that they had given him 10 million pesos.
20:5910 million pesos.
21:00But that he did not finish accepting.
21:02He did not finish accepting.
21:03Apparently,
21:04first he claimed some kind of payment,
21:06because he was working for two or three months
21:08with his truck,
21:10beyond that he is a volunteer.
21:12At the moment when he appears
21:13in the schedule to pay,
21:15he had been left out of this matter.
21:17Situation that begins,
21:19or causes the first short circuit,
21:21with Vendes.
21:22Alejandro Pata runs
21:24and begins to transcend important materials
21:28related to those first days in the truck.
21:31Then, of course,
21:32he begins to take another approach
21:34to what he could say.
21:36And suddenly,
21:37six months after Lohan's disappearance,
21:41they tell us of a family discussion
21:43that had been repeated,
21:45which could also have to do
21:47with this issue of money
21:48that he wanted to donate,
21:50and his family could have said,
21:52but we need it,
21:54because you know how to live in Argentina,
21:56and if you did not charge for so long.
21:58And he said no,
22:00that he wanted to donate it,
22:01that he wanted to donate it to the volunteer firefighters,
22:03that he wanted to donate it to other entities.
22:05Apparently, in the middle of this situation,
22:08he makes several shots inside the house,
22:11and then he goes out to a courtyard
22:12where the family is,
22:13and supposedly ends,
22:15I tell you,
22:16supposedly,
22:17with the versions we have,
22:18impacting himself with the gun
22:21in the heart.
22:23Alejandro Pata was a man who used weapons,
22:25as Fito Baquer said,
22:28he was in a group of hunters,
22:30he is this man.
22:31He had even been injured at some point,
22:33shooting himself in the hand,
22:35unintentionally.
22:37This is something else.
22:39We did not expect a death in the case of Lohan.
22:41It is as if,
22:42if I told you,
22:43of those who are involved or participated,
22:45imagine,
22:46Soria,
22:47the American,
22:48that he appears dead,
22:49or that one of the lawyers appears dead,
22:50or that he appears,
22:51well,
22:52of course it generates a real shock
22:54with this shot in the chest,
22:56but that now,
22:57now,
22:58it is a dubious death,
22:59at least until today,
23:00Fito.
23:01I do not know what can change,
23:02I understand that there will be expertise.
23:04Yes,
23:05without a doubt, Pablo,
23:06there will be ballistic expertise,
23:07there will be testimonials,
23:10you will see
23:12the angle of the shot,
23:14you will see absolutely everything.
23:17To me,
23:18I will tell you again,
23:20as I always said,
23:21a case of Lohan,
23:22with so many people close,
23:24when they could have caught him
23:25in the middle of the night,
23:26or in the afternoon,
23:27it never seemed like a deal to me.
23:29Well,
23:30about Pata,
23:32I already tell you,
23:33with so many people next to him,
23:35it is not...
23:36It seems to be what it is.
23:37No,
23:38it is not
23:39something that they went and killed him.
23:41No.
23:42But...
23:43Induced.
23:44This,
23:45no,
23:46this comes a rebound.
23:47It comes from afar.
23:48The rebound comes,
23:49imagine that
23:50no one is going to kill himself,
23:51because he says,
23:52I want to donate money,
23:53my wife tells me no,
23:54the girl tells me no,
23:55and I kill myself.
23:56But...
23:57Undoubtedly,
23:58in his psyche,
23:59something from the Lohan-Pablo case,
24:01sign it today,
24:02hours later,
24:03today,
24:04was affecting him in his psyche.
24:06I tell you more,
24:07I tell you more.
24:08Yes.
24:09I was talking to Nahuel,
24:10until yesterday afternoon,
24:12I was talking to Nahuel,
24:13I think he even published,
24:15our partner,
24:16some messages,
24:17because you know that
24:18the guys from Alerta 24-7
24:20are going to Goya on Friday.
24:22Yes.
24:23And they were planning
24:24to go to his house
24:25to have lunch or dinner,
24:26yesterday.
24:27And how is it that
24:28at one in the morning
24:29they shoot themselves in the chest,
24:30if they are organizing
24:31what is going to happen
24:32in three days?
24:33Clearly,
24:34there is something that...
24:35The procession goes inside,
24:36Pablo,
24:37that's why I told you
24:38that a large part
24:39of the truth
24:40was taken with him,
24:41Pata.
24:42Because...
24:43Tremendous.
24:44Here,
24:45he was not a secondary character,
24:46let's tell people,
24:47he came here,
24:48Mendes was there,
24:49when he spoke to the press,
24:50José was there,
24:51when they wanted him
24:52to receive Miley,
24:53and Miley did not receive him,
24:54and Patricia received him.
24:55And Pata,
24:56in fact,
24:57was the one
24:58who decided
24:59to leave that day,
25:00that night,
25:01they ended up
25:02going to Campana,
25:03Pablo.
25:04Good.
25:05Do you remember
25:06when they went to Campana?
25:07Yes.
25:08Look,
25:09this is the message
25:10from Alejandro Pata,
25:11I don't want to
25:12go to the parties,
25:13if I offended someone,
25:14I apologize.
25:15If someone
25:16deserves it,
25:17may God forgive him.
25:18And this last sentence,
25:20I can't not associate it.
25:21And with this,
25:22Pablo,
25:23you have an emergency.
25:24Come on,
25:25now,
25:26urgent information,
25:27attention,
25:28on A24.