La recreación de un pesebre viviente en OLGA y LUZU despertó la polémica. Debate y la opinión de los famosos en Desayuno Americano.
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00:00What we are seeing is what happened in Olga's streaming
00:03in the show My Cousin is Like This,
00:05where they did a parody of the moment of the manger,
00:07nothing that we have seen in any comedy show
00:10throughout the history of television and the media.
00:14This is what happened...
00:15Are you taking a stand, Julita?
00:16No, but it seems to me like...
00:18But it's a scandal, it's growing, it's growing, it's growing.
00:21It's a scandal.
00:22They put me in religion.
00:23This is what happened in Olga, the same thing happened in Luzu,
00:26and as it went viral, because this was a couple of days ago,
00:29a lot of people, especially because now we are going to talk
00:32about different opinions that people have about it,
00:35take a stand, precisely the communicators.
00:38So there is an uproar on Twitter,
00:40there is a lot of debate about people who are Catholic,
00:43who find it an insult.
00:44Then there was also a whole antisemitic delirium with this.
00:47In other words, in the networks they attacked
00:50with things that are unusual, regrettable, that happen.
00:53It is understood the same, obviously,
00:56those Catholic people feel this as a mockery of their cult,
00:59so I understand that some have come out to apologize and others have not.
01:03On the one hand, Olga's streaming that we are watching,
01:06and on the other hand, Luzu's.
01:08We went to see what people think,
01:09because everyone is giving their opinion.
01:10It's the scandal of the moment.
01:11It's a scandal.
01:12It's my idea.
01:13By God, of course.
01:14It's my idea.
01:15Christmas scandal.
01:16A thousand.
01:17Well, Julita.
01:18Let's see, what do the famous say about the Pesebregate?
01:22PESEBREGATE
01:24I think what they did is a shitty humor.
01:26I think the sketch was terrible.
01:28I don't understand that funny thing of making fun of yourself.
01:32They all look like assholes.
01:34And then, what pisses me off about this,
01:37put a bad joke, a bad sketch.
01:39It can happen.
01:40Because humor, you see, is weird.
01:42If it is rationalized, it ceases to be humor.
01:44It doesn't seem funny to me.
01:46Not at all.
01:47I think they sin of being funny.
01:48They think they are funnier than they are.
01:50And it's not a humor for everyone.
01:52I think it was unnecessary.
01:56First for a date and for a religious partiality
02:00that believes, has that belief.
02:02I think it's unnecessary.
02:05The Divine Button didn't contribute anything.
02:08And it's not that I want to criticize the guys.
02:10I think they should reflect on these things.
02:12Because the subject of religions is quite particular.
02:18Whether it's Muslim, Jewish,
02:21Roman Catholic, Apostolic, Evangelical.
02:25I think everyone has their own set of beliefs.
02:31You can believe they are not true.
02:35But respect for the other
02:37makes that religious partiality have that belief,
02:41that revealed truth, and that one must respect it.
02:43Toto went out to speak.
02:44He said that what they wanted to do
02:46was an artistic proposal and that it was humor.
02:49It didn't work.
02:50You see that in the United States
02:52there are many programs that are very strong in humor.
02:56And I don't know, some are also criticized,
02:59but people, well, I think humor is humor.
03:03I don't know if it becomes something heavy.
03:07They are styles.
03:09It doesn't change anything for me.
03:11I say, ah, well, it's humor.
03:14Nothing happens to me with that.
03:16But I also understand that there are people who can be offended.
03:18I think there are a lot of issues with which one can make humor.
03:21There are things with which not.
03:23In no way.
03:24I was amazed that neither he nor his mother got involved.
03:27There was not even a hint of forgiveness.
03:29A pen of forgiveness, of apology.
03:32When one is a communicator,
03:33many times in front of a microphone,
03:35in front of a camera,
03:36even in a pen writing,
03:37a lot of mistakes and failures can occur.
03:40It makes us noble and good professionals
03:43that we honor the profession,
03:45to know how to look inside and recognize
03:48when something is not right
03:49and ask for pertinent apologies,
03:51which none of them did.
03:52It surprised me and made me very angry.
03:54I think the first episode was on December 6 in Lusso,
03:58and the last one in Olga was last week.
04:00Many days passed,
04:01they had time to reconsider what they did,
04:03more than anything,
04:04taking into account the rebound and the reply of the people,
04:07and none apologized.
04:08That speaks of who they are.
04:09It speaks of who they are as communicators,
04:10but above all,
04:11it speaks of who they are as a person.
04:13Everyone knows that I have a very critical opinion
04:16of the streams.
04:17Artistically, they seem to me to be empty sets.
04:21There is nothing there.
04:22I mean, it's birthdays that stole the cake.
04:25There are four friends who go there,
04:27they talk and say,
04:28what happened to you when you arrived on the 39th?
04:30Ha ha!
04:31Nothing.
04:32There is nothing there.
04:33I mean, everything is stupid.
04:35So it doesn't surprise me that they did something
04:38to be celebrated for being stupid,
04:40you know?
04:41I mean, let's make our stupids laugh.
04:43What can I do?
04:44Can I dress up as a baby Jesus in a diaper
04:47and have a cat suck my a**?
04:49I mean,
04:50who can think of that?
04:51That's stupid, you know?
04:52Well,
04:53possibly they have an audience that applauds them,
04:55the streams,
04:56which is great.
04:57Obviously,
04:58the lettered tradition is dying
05:01and they are making another new tradition,
05:03which is this one.
05:04And well,
05:05nothing,
05:06it's what we have to live with.
05:08I'm listening.
05:09Yes,
05:10it gives me the feeling that we have reached a moment
05:12in which everything is worth
05:14from the point of view of the stream.
05:16I mean,
05:17whatever you do,
05:18you're going to have an audience
05:20that applauds you.
05:21Eh?
05:22How?
05:23Notice that now they are canceling it everywhere.
05:25But do you think it's to cancel this, Damacia?
05:27I think what happened was very serious.
05:29A limit was exceeded.
05:30No,
05:31it seems to me that ...
05:32What is the limit that was exceeded here?
05:33What is the limit of humor?
05:34I mean,
05:35really.
05:36And the limit of affecting
05:37other people.
05:38Because there are people who felt hurt.
05:39But then all your opinions
05:40that affect someone,
05:41you can't say them.
05:42It's humor.
05:43I mean,
05:44it's in a frame of humor.
05:45You can't say it.
05:46No,
05:47but here it is ...
05:48That you think it's a bad humor,
05:49that you think it's a terrible humor,
05:50that you think it doesn't make anyone laugh,
05:51that you think it's lame,
05:52that you think it's crappy content,
05:53it's worth it.
05:54Your opinion is worth it,
05:55as a viewer.
05:56But you don't like it,
05:57you change it, guys.
05:58People who don't like this show,
06:00it's the worst show on earth.
06:01But, no.
06:02No.
06:03In my life,
06:04humor was made with the PC.
06:05I've never seen this
06:06on any television show.
06:07Excuse me,
06:08but I've never seen it.
06:09But, Juan,
06:10have you seen TV in the 90s,
06:11in 2000,
06:12where they made humor
06:13with absolutely everything?
06:14If we are not going to be able
06:15to make humor with anything,
06:16let's not talk about
06:17women because we get angry.
06:18Let's not talk about
06:19cheating because they get offended.
06:20Let's not talk about ...
06:21No, no, stop, stop, stop, stop.
06:22No, no, no, stop.
06:23Let me finish.
06:24Let me finish.
06:25I mean,
06:26people get offended,
06:27not the same people.
06:28We don't offend people who are skinny.
06:30What you're saying is that society is very sensitive.
06:34Exactly.
06:35What you do in jokes is not possible.
06:38What are we going to do tomorrow?
06:40What are we going to talk about tomorrow?
06:42Guys, this is so easy, you don't see it.
06:44You change the channel.
06:45Nobody forces you to consume this content.
06:47You can say that it's terrible, that you think it's awful,
06:49that it's a shitty humor.
06:51I think it's terrible, yes.
06:52I think it's a lot of bullying.
06:54I think the debate is given to another person.
06:57It's so quiet.
06:58Yes.
06:59No, it's very bad taste first.
07:01In fact, I see them all misinformed,
07:03because if you listen to the content, too,
07:05you can be a satire,
07:07with something so emblematic.
07:09Bad taste and misinformed.
07:11Sure, but I mean, apart from that,
07:13you can be bothered by a matter of religion,
07:15because the truth is, this is not only against
07:17the birth of Christ or Christmas
07:19or the Catholic Church or the Christian Church.
07:21This has to do with a matter of information as well.
07:24So, who consumes this?
07:25A lot of kids consume this, a lot of streaming.
07:27Now, the truth is that here,
07:28in addition to bad taste and misinformation,
07:30what they did is very greasy.
07:32It's greasy.
07:34It's greasy and pathetic,
07:36because the truth is, if you want to be a satire,
07:38do it well, even if it means grabbing the Bible,
07:40reading or informing yourself with history.
07:42But, Charlie, how do you go to a streaming
07:44to learn about religion?
07:45And besides, how does it change your life?
07:47What is streaming?
07:49Is it a cave?
07:51It's a communication channel.
07:53It's a channel of information.
07:55But if we are going to think that the kids
07:57have a code,
07:59and they always do this.
08:01What is the code?
08:02Well, humor.
08:03It's not the first time.
08:04But that's not humor, that's greasy.
08:05Well, it's fine.
08:06It's greasy.
08:07Charlie, it's correct that you don't like humor.
08:09What did they want?
08:10That we talk all day about them?
08:11But do you know how many channels there are?
08:13Well, then talk well about what they propose
08:15as content for everyone to talk about.
08:17But it's bad advertising for me.
08:19For me, this is bad advertising.
08:21But still, we want to know what the debate is.
08:23Because this has been growing.
08:25I'm outraged to hear Mangel
08:27with Janina La Torre.
08:28They already get involved with religion.
08:30Because, of course,
08:31there is the other side.
08:33But is it for so much?
08:35Is it for so much?
08:37And maybe there are people who touch it.
08:39But do you see it?
08:40Do you consume it?
08:42Do you follow it?
08:43So what is your problem?
08:44No, that many people felt damaged.
08:46But leave those people.
08:47But many people who?
08:49Well, now the supporters with the blog.
08:51It bothers me.
08:52Yes, I watch Olga's content.
08:53Can't you stop watching it?
08:55The truth is that I don't like it.
08:57I don't know if I'm going to stop watching it or not.
08:59But I like it.
09:00They were working super neat.
09:01I think they did super good interviews.
09:03The debates were very good.
09:05It's a joke.
09:06It's a joke.
09:07It's a bad joke.
09:09It's a bad joke, but it's a joke.
09:12I don't know if this is a joke or it's true.
09:14What you are going to present now.
09:15What happens is that for the people
09:17It deserves respect.
09:19I agree.
09:20I understand.
09:21One thing is that you think it's an ugly joke.
09:23Well, don't see it.
09:24Now, it is understood and I think that those who have the most space for complaint or pain.
09:28It is those who practice this cult, who believe in these things.
09:31It's not everyone.
09:32Do you mind homophobia?
09:33It's your problem.
09:34No, no, homophobia is an attack on people.
09:36Well, listen, this is an attack on religion.
09:38It's perfect.
09:39This is an attack on religion.
09:40Yes, but I'm saying it, Charlie.
09:42It's an attack on a cult.
09:43He thinks so.
09:44And many people think it's an attack on religion.
09:46Of course.
09:47Look, I told you how I listen to you, Salerno.
09:49No, among these people who have felt hurt.
09:52Yes.
09:53The one who raised the flag.
09:54I think it was the first one, right?
09:56Yes, the most controversial, the one who decides to throw more firewood to the networks.
10:01Instead of lowering the tone.
10:02It's okay.
10:03It's what you feel.
10:04It's all the same.
10:05Yesterday, particularly, I had a day of fury against Aracely González.
10:09Who had come out to defend Toto Kirchner.
10:11One of the people in the sketch.
10:12But he got rid of everything.
10:14With everything.
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14:08I'm going to send a hug to Tommy, he was very good.
14:12Of course you think he's good, he's a good actor.
14:15No, but why do I think he's good?
14:17He has his trash.
14:18Which one is it?
14:19No, I don't listen to you being aggressive.
14:22No, I think you're different, but you're not aggressive.
14:25Yesterday Suar also talked about the subject.
14:27We're going to listen to it, but I want Tomás Dente.
14:29I would like a little bit.
14:31It's not just that we're hitting Toto, it's not him.
14:37He slapped everyone.
14:39Respect the people who did it.
14:43Yes, I respect.
14:44But if you become something worse with your insult,
14:47with your editorial, which is more aggressive.
14:50Really, too much underestimating the public.
14:52Let the public see what they love.
14:54Besides, he does it to get me up.
14:56Some people will think it's a blasphemy,
14:58others will think it's spectacular.
15:00The same as sad content, let's be honest.
15:03For whom is it sad, Carlos?
15:05There are people who laugh, there are people who don't laugh.
15:08It's okay.
15:09Let the people feel damaged.
15:13People feel damaged for everything.
15:16Did you feel damaged when they told you mononeuronal?
15:19Look, I'm asking for an explanation.
15:22Besides, it is assumed that Olga comes to revolutionize.
15:26Cha-cha-cha, she went through this channel, it was a success.
15:28Without coding, she went through this channel, it was a success.
15:30I don't want to imitate anymore.
15:31In the paparazzi magazine.
15:32They want to do something good with the TV.
15:34They want to do something good with the TV.
15:36Put the cover of WandaVirgin.
15:40Nobody was so outraged.
15:45We can put WandaNaraVirgin.
15:47We can put Doña Flor and her two husbands.
15:50Did you see WandaNara with Elegante and Maxi Loque?
15:54Maxi forgot what he posted on the Eiffel Tower.
15:58Fiction levels.
15:59Maxi wants to surf this wave and no more.
16:02Don't sit down to eat with Elegante.
16:05Let's go back to this.
16:07I want to hear you.
16:08Talk to Tommy Dente, Damacia.
16:10First, I feel that what Tommy Dente did is super strategic.
16:13Because he did it so that today we are talking about him.
16:17It is a download.
16:19Can I say what I think?
16:21We are going back to Tommy Dente.
16:22Let's make Tommy's evolution.
16:23It was too exaggerated, too exaggerated.
16:25Very violent for my way of seeing it.
16:28Because one thing is to make humor and that it goes wrong.
16:31Or that some people take it wrong.
16:33The code of streaming is a community that understands the language of that program.
16:37So those who saw it were not offended.
16:40Because they expect something like this from Olga.
16:42It's like there's a code in streaming.
16:44Like you're going to look for that, right?
16:45You follow what you want.
16:46But the codes should...
16:47They always do that.
16:48They put on wigs, they dress up, they do sketches of this.
16:51Evelyn is a funny girl.
16:52Toto too.
16:53The codes...
16:54If that transcended...
16:55But it has to end.
16:57Toto already said and apologized.
16:59I think that's what we also have to stay.
17:01If these are the codes of streaming, they should review the codes.
17:05Why?
17:06Because we are on our way to something worse than this.
17:08Every time everything is worse.
17:09But you didn't follow it.
17:11You are our president and you are a violent saying a lot of things.
17:14How Toto?
17:15I think it's good.
17:17I don't know, for some things we are very sensitive.
17:19For other things we are very tolerant.
17:22It depends on who does it.
17:23Toto acts and nothing is said to him.
17:24It depends on who does it.
17:25It depends on where he is.
17:26I give the golden Martin Fierro to Tomás Dente.
17:29Because Tomás, I love you and I know that you are acting.
17:32Our father, sanctified be your name.
17:34And without laughing.
17:36You were very good.
17:38I congratulate you.
17:39No, she sent it to shut up the TV.
17:41I know you are acting.
17:42I know you thought about the mude.
17:44And to be a TV show, you have to think.
17:46I congratulate you.
17:47No, because I don't congratulate him.
17:48First, because he starts saying to the communicators who take this lightly.
17:51It doesn't affect me at all.
17:53And I'm religious and I think it's content.
17:55You can like it or not.
17:56You follow it or you don't.
17:57Period.
17:58We have to make a debate.
17:59I applaud them because they give us content even to ourselves.
18:01Yes.
18:02But after opposing you, I also applaud you for the acting.
18:05But I do think that as a communicator you also have a very violent message.
18:11And not to shut up Araceli, who seemed funny to me.
18:13That I sent her to be a mude.
18:15And Nano back.
18:16It seemed funny to me.
18:17But then no.
18:18No, no, no.
18:19It's violent.
18:20It's violent.
18:21So don't say that something is bothering you that is doing worse.
18:23Because you are thinking about it.
18:24You scripted it.
18:25You put it together.
18:26That didn't even come naturally to you.
18:27Yes.
18:28Good.
18:29Well, there is a side of this that I was saying a little while ago.
18:31The truth is that it is the unfortunate side.
18:33The most unfortunate of all.
18:34This is my personal opinion.
18:36That is, in networks and some people also let us see that this was happening.
18:40Because those who acted were Jewish people.
18:42Look at the level we have reached.
18:44Uh.
18:45Of, I don't know, of madness.
18:46So that this debate has been installed by a humorous sketch.
18:49Which may seem to you, we repeat, good or bad.
18:51But someone thinks the following.
18:53Can we see it?
18:54Yes, yes, yes.
18:55Let's go.
18:56Janina talked about this on streaming too.
18:57Then Mangel answers him.
18:58But let's start with this opinion that Janina gave.
19:04It was not well done.
19:05And the issue is that it seems to me that if you make a parody of the Jews like that,
19:09they start with the Holocaust, the death, I don't know.
19:11But it seems to me a lot the same that they want to make a complaint.
19:15I mean, it's not funny.
19:16It's not funny.
19:17It's like when they did the ...
19:18I always take the side of humor.
19:19If you don't like it, don't watch it.
19:21They are going to hell lately.
19:22Pepitos and Bria.
19:23They are going to hell.
19:24And then to them.
19:25If you say something, they call you and tie you up.
19:30Well, here Janina was trying to make a counterpoint.
19:32What happens if you do it to another cult?
19:34Punctually choose the Jewish community.
19:38She didn't like it at all.
19:39No, but I ask.
19:40Because my idea is disinformation.
19:43From disinformation.
19:44Yes.
19:45There are no more laws that ...
19:49That prohibit doing this?
19:50No, not that they prohibit doing this.
19:51When it comes to Judaism, I ask it from my ignorance.
19:54Yes.
19:55I mean, they call you the Daia, they make you repent.
19:57No, it's not that.
19:58A discharge.
19:59And there is no one else.
20:00No, what you can't provoke a damage,
20:02demonstrate an action that makes you hurt a person's feelings.
20:07You have to respect ideologies.
20:09Well, it's the same as this.
20:10So Janina is right when she is saying,
20:12if this had been with the Jewish religion ...
20:14It's hard for me to agree with Janina,
20:15but it seems to me that here she is right.
20:17But I ask you, doesn't she go that way?
20:19Yes, she goes that way.
20:20Her gaze?
20:21Yes, because apart ...
20:22But guys, what does it have to do with ...
20:24Why do we draw the Jews to this topic?
20:26No.
20:27What Janina says is that ...
20:28But what does it have to do with it, guys, in the context?
20:31It has nothing to do with us citing them.
20:32What you are going to say to me about the law,
20:33I say, negationism is prohibited.
20:35Denying what happened in history.
20:37No, no, no.
20:38Obviously someone feels hurt.
20:40You have to go and apologize and learn and a lot of things.
20:43Courses and a lot of things.
20:44But if you go to Jewish communities,
20:45that if you do this and they come out with such a thing,
20:47I say, it's expensive.
20:48That's why I say, if in this case ...
20:49It didn't happen to me, but Salerno felt offended
20:51for what they did.
20:52No, friend, friend.
20:53But what does it have to do with the Jews?
20:54Did you get hurt?
20:55No, no, I am the word of Janina.
20:56No, no, no.
20:57No, but it's not because of Janina.
20:58It's because of what Janina said.
20:59All I say is that it seems to me that they satirized something
21:02that is wrong, even badly done,
21:04which has to do with religion and the thought
21:07and feeling of many people.
21:09Yes.
21:10Catholic.
21:11But they don't look.
21:12That's why I gave you a name.
21:13No, not only this is universal.
21:14No, but I think it's atomic.
21:15It's Toto Kirchner.
21:16I think I understand that Judaism is not baptized.
21:19Adrián, I understand that yes.
21:20I say, only because there is a Jewish person.
21:22There is a Jew.
21:23We are not going to say that if it happens ...
21:24Don't blame the son of Juan.
21:25Ah, you think he said it for Toto.
21:26That they said it for ...
21:27No.
21:28Oh, well, guys, sorry.
21:29I miss all this.
21:30In general, the anti-Semitic debate that was raised,
21:33it is not because of Janina.
21:34It is because many people said it was bringing a Jew to dinner.
21:37No, no.
21:38What does it have to do with this case?
21:39No, I don't think so.
21:40No, the one who is very angry about this is Robyn Mangel.
21:42Robyn Mangel.
21:43Because obviously she answers Janina in this case.
21:45But hey, all the people who were putting this situation ...
21:48My head hurts already with this sketch.
21:50I swear to you.
21:51Let's see.
21:52So much mess.
21:54It is a mistake that will be retracted,
21:56but Janina Latorre also made a comment that she did not want to say what she said.
22:00I don't tend to think, let's say, in the good faith of these comments.
22:04I always tend to think badly, but with the influence she has,
22:08I could give an explanation within the framework of which she is saying it.
22:11Every time we talk about Jews like them,
22:14they and us, there is a bias that is very difficult to break.
22:21Now, for what?
22:22They are not chachacha, guys.
22:25All right.
22:27But what did they want to say?
22:30What did they want to communicate?
22:34Who did they want to provoke?
22:36And then, like Toto Kirchner, I understand that they think he is a Jew
22:40because he is Suar's son, but for the Jewish religion,
22:42he is not Jewish by breast, because he is not Jewish,
22:46because Sarasely's mother, and I understand that he did not become one.
22:50I don't know, I really don't know.
22:53Horrible, horrible what happened to Olga.
22:56Horrible what happened to ...
22:57I don't want to say what happened to Olga,
22:59because it was particularly a group, right?
23:01I don't know who was there, Toto Kirchner, Emelin Boto and Martin Rechimuzi?
23:07In the parody they did of the Pesebre,
23:12unpleasant, because you can make humor with anything.
23:17Yes, humor.
23:20Humor, this is not humor.
23:22This is bad humor, ugly humor.
23:25In that, I think we can decide,
23:27we can all give our opinion if we think it's funny or not.
23:30It doesn't matter if it's fourth or not.
23:33For me it is selective intolerance that we have.
23:37Because it is the total lack of respect for me.
23:39That is, for me, it is what I said at the beginning,
23:41there is no longer a limit to make humor,
23:44and it seems to me that it should be,
23:46because there are a lot of topics that when humor is made about something,
23:49we criticize it.
23:50I add what Damas said,
23:52nobody is so outraged when they talk about children in vaseline,
23:56when the message is violent from the president,
23:59especially those who replicate what he says.
24:01We look the other way.
24:03No, we pretend dementia and some don't pretend it, right?
24:05It can be, it can be.
24:06I love Mrs. Torre, I love her.
24:08But?
24:09But, it seems to me...
24:11Well, if you think differently, you have to be able to say it.
24:13No, but you see that she is very...
24:15There will be no umbrella, ma'am.
24:16Yes, but it seems to me that when she criticizes women so much
24:21and says terrible words to them,
24:23like, you have it dry, you have this...
24:26It seems to me that it is as terrible as this.
24:29Come on, really?
24:30Well, it doesn't seem terrible to me either, so...
24:32It seems that everything that is aggressive,
24:34everything that annoys the other,
24:37this also annoys you.
24:39Guys, you're doing the same thing you questioned,
24:42so we can't talk about anything.
24:44Besides, Janina, many times she generates humor,
24:46she likes what she does.
24:48Don't look at her anyway, that's the point, Gaby.
24:50It's a style, it's a style.
24:52It's a code.
24:53It's a style.
24:54Because Janina, in this case, speaks ill of another person.
24:56No.
24:57Here we are seeing a situation that,
24:59according to the social networks,
25:00according to the people who created it,
25:02affects many people.
25:04But Juan is talking.
25:05I say, one thing is what a person thinks of another,
25:07not what they say, the aggravations they say.
25:09Here, there is a part of society that is affected and damaged.
25:14What Tommy Dente says, people also think so.
25:16It's in the networks.
25:17I mean, that happens.
25:19It seems to me that you can't cross a limit with humor.
25:21It seems to me that...
25:22It's a philosophical debate.
25:23Do you understand that it is a philosophical debate?
25:25To believe what you think is right with what I think is right
25:27and we will never reach an agreement?
25:29What happens with someone, Juan, who is not Catholic?
25:32That religion...
25:33I'm going to do this, that religion doesn't matter?
25:34Nothing.
25:35What matters to me?
25:36But I say, one has to know that there are people
25:38who, with what happened, feel damaged.
25:40But that's fine.
25:41But we are human beings.
25:43At the same time that there are two damaged people,
25:45two people, you don't have to do that,
25:47because you make the other person feel bad.
25:49I agree with what you say.
25:51I agree in the sense that when you do something
25:53that affects the other person,
25:54it's good to be able to recognize,
25:56as Toto did yesterday,
25:57to say, it's true, when you do something,
25:59you know it can have a positive or negative impact.
26:03You can also choose to consume me or not.
26:05Yes.
26:06Because they make their product, which is that.
26:08But you can't do anything on your show.
26:10You can't do anything.
26:11In the context of humor.
26:13But Catholics are not human beings.
26:15Artistic.
26:16Humor stops being humor with damaged people.
26:18I laugh, sorry,
26:20to all those who feel affected by their faith.
26:22Because really, this is anything,
26:24but Janina is going to leave an audio,
26:26and I'm afraid for the content.
26:28Because what is written says,
26:29what does this girl say?
26:30Obviously.
26:31I told you, I don't want...
26:33I'm going to listen to it while we see the next one.
26:35No, no, put it aside.
26:36No!
26:37Without checking, no.
26:39Pamela Davidi always says,
26:41Pamela Davidi always says.
26:43Meanwhile...
26:45If you want, we listen to Miguel,
26:47who was very useful yesterday at this time,
26:49because everyone was waiting to see if he was going to say something in the air.
26:51It was subtle, but concrete.
26:53Oh, Janina Torres is calling!
26:54Holy God!
26:55Or was it unintentionally?
26:56Lost call.
26:58What do I do, Janina?
26:59Shall we call you?
27:00Come on, let's listen to Miguel,
27:02and meanwhile, let's listen to Janina.
27:04You got on your own, baby.
27:07Let's remember one thing.
27:08Let's remember something.
27:09Our community already knows.
27:11This is a YouTube channel.
27:12Yes.
27:13It is not a state channel,
27:14and it is not an air channel,
27:16which is what you can only see.
27:18This is a YouTube channel that we made
27:20to break the balls with our people,
27:22with the codes we want,
27:23and have fun.
27:25They are talking a lot about the channels.
27:26It doesn't matter.
27:27This is a YouTube channel of ours.
27:28We don't have a boss.
27:30We talk to our community,
27:32and it's a YouTube channel.
27:34No one is forced to see it.
27:36It's not the only thing that grabs an antenna,
27:38or it's the state channel.
27:40It's a YouTube channel.
27:41There are YouTubers who show how weapons are cleaned.
27:43There are YouTubers who show how a lock is broken,
27:45how a teddy bear is washed,
27:48That's why I'm telling you.
27:49It's a YouTube channel.
27:50Period.
27:51Do we have the option to continue or not?
27:52Of course.
27:53And that's it.
27:56Let's call Janina.
27:58Please call Janina now, live,
28:00to ask her opinion.
28:02The truth is,
28:03it's the first time that Saler doesn't agree with Janina.
28:05You're kidding.
28:06It's a lot.
28:07Hey, Migue Granado,
28:08Migue, I admire you, Migue.
28:10You're a number one.
28:11But...
28:12Now, it's a YouTube channel.
28:13Don't put me, skinny,
28:14as a means of communication.
28:15What part do you not understand?
28:16You make millions every month.
28:18But it forces you to look at it.
28:20Now, it's a simple YouTube channel.
28:22You know what?
28:23Fuck off.
28:24And what doesn't go to air, doesn't go to air.
28:26Because you also criticize what we do on TV,
28:28you criticize what we do on the radio.
28:30So, you know what you have to do?
28:31You have to grab the bag,
28:32grab the criticism,
28:33say, you know what?
28:34It was bad.
28:35What we did was pathetic.
28:36We won't repeat it.
28:37We won't repeat it again.
28:38And we're going to deliver content.
28:39Because what is hectare,
28:40is...
28:41No, only five people watch it.
28:42Only five people watch it.
28:43Because you only watch it on YouTube.
28:45Only on YouTube.
28:46Carlos.
28:47You viralize it on social media.
28:48You make a fortune every month.
28:49No, no, no.
28:50You don't have to make a fortune.
28:51No, no, no.
28:52You don't have to make a fortune.
28:53No, no, no.
28:54Why don't you make the niche
28:55of five friends watching a YouTube channel?
28:56No, it says it's YouTube,
28:57and you can't not watch it.
28:58It's not the public TV
28:59that you turn on with your family.
29:00You have three channels.
29:01And you're not educating them.
29:02And you say,
29:03hey, this happens to me all the time.
29:04It's so hard for them to say
29:05that they were wrong.
29:06Guys, they're going to look
29:07at YouTube for the content there is.
29:08Carlos.
29:09I think we can all think differently.
29:11Look at that cow.
29:12Look at that cow.
29:13And you know why?
29:14And you know why?
29:15I would be outraged
29:16if they didn't give me a content
29:17at a mass.
29:18If I go to church
29:19and I want to go to a mass
29:20and they do this ridiculous thing
29:21to me,
29:22I would be outraged.
29:23Well, I'll tell you something.
29:24You know what?
29:25I'm on YouTube.
29:26I'm on YouTube.
29:27I'm on YouTube.
29:28I'm on YouTube.
29:29I'm on YouTube.
29:30I'm on YouTube.
29:31I'm on YouTube.
29:32I'm on YouTube.
29:33I'm on YouTube.
29:34I'm on YouTube.
29:35I'm on YouTube.
29:36I'm on YouTube.
29:37I'm on YouTube.
29:38I'm on YouTube.
29:40I send all love to one God.
29:42My love, tell me.
29:43Madias, out of my place
29:44and context,
29:45this is what really makes
29:46of Janina.
29:47First of all,
29:48I don't mess with women.
29:49Secondly,
29:50conchavacismo,
29:51I am not saying
29:52about your conch,
29:53my conch and Pamela's,
29:54it's the way
29:56that I call
29:57the fish
29:58or the woman
29:59who's repressed,
30:00which has nothing to do
30:01with the religious faith,
30:02it's nothing to do
30:03with laughing at me.
30:05It seems like you're going
30:06to hell
30:07and don't want to argue,
30:08I don't have a problem with that.
30:10Can I answer?
30:11It's awful...
30:12Answer me whatever you want.
30:13It's awful that you call a girl a dry shell.
30:16It's terrifying.
30:17Well, don't consume me.
30:18Don't consume me, Marco.
30:20And you don't consume the streamer either.
30:23It's not the same.
30:24I didn't say anything.
30:26Amanda, you didn't get it.
30:28I understood everything, love, just like you.
30:30It's been 15 years that I've been working with you.
30:33I don't want to interrupt you because Amanda,
30:35when we saw the tape, she said,
30:36It affects me when she says she has dry skin.
30:38I think it's a topic.
30:39It affects me.
30:40It affects me because there are a lot of people who have menopause and who have it dry.
30:44No, but stop.
30:45You see, people who have menopause and who have it dry, I think it's horrible.
30:48No, but that's when the humor stops being humor and you're not rationalizing it.
30:51No, it's not.
30:52Don't literalize it, for God's sake.
30:55Don't literalize it.
30:56It's a very Janina Torre phrase.
30:58Yes.
30:59And it's like, I don't know, a seal.
31:01Total humor.
31:02Total.
31:04Mandato.
31:05I want to explain.
31:06Mandato.
31:07I have menopause.
31:08And I say it from the first day.
31:09So when you laugh at yourself, you're enabled to laugh.
31:13I'm not laughing at you.
31:15Shani.
31:16You're not in my age.
31:17You're funny.
31:18Let me answer you.
31:19You can't bring me into context with a debate towards a whole religious community.
31:24Let me.
31:25It has nothing to do with it.
31:26I'm also Catholic.
31:27Let me tell you.
31:28I...
31:29It doesn't bother you because you're menopausal, but it has nothing to do with it.
31:32The rest of the people who are menopausal, it doesn't bother them.
31:35But you can't say anything.
31:36Because I know people who are menopausal.
31:38But you can't say anything, my love.
31:39And it's the same as this.
31:40Then the guys can't do anything either.
31:42And then the guys on the stream can't do anything.
31:45But I didn't attack you.
31:46It's just that...
31:47Yes, I heard you attacking.
31:48With all due respect, I still have you.
31:49No, my love.
31:50You didn't watch my show.
31:51The TED that Mangel uploaded is edited and is taken out of context.
31:55I said that it seemed to me an exaggeration everything that was being put together,
31:59that if I understood that they went to hell and I could not like it.
32:02And when he said...
32:03I said, they call you, I'm not talking about the Jews.
32:06I was talking about Olga.
32:07They didn't understand anything.
32:09Of course.
32:10He didn't say Jewish.
32:11It's a cut tape.
32:12If you look at my entire streaming program, at no time did I say don't do it.
32:16I know, but I know.
32:17I understand like Damasia, that people don't consume them and period.
32:19Perfect.
32:20No, it's fine, perfect.
32:21But I say...
32:22You are going to talk about what I say for minimum information.
32:25Chachekism in this debate has nothing to do with it.
32:28If not, no one can laugh at anything you did to me.
32:31I am very against the format of everything.
32:33Thank God, it's been a long time and that's why I say that there are many things...
32:36I imagine, yes, I see it.
32:37Do you see it?
32:38I love that you see it.
32:39Yes, I see it, I see it.
32:40I love that you see it.
32:41Well, girls, I don't know what to say.
32:42We are talking about the same thing.
32:43They realize, right?
32:44There is a lot of people who feel aggrieved by many things that you say.
32:47Well, then you can't talk about anything.
32:48I'm not going to tell you which ones.
32:50Talking about chachekism is not an insult.
32:52Not only that.
32:53Charlie, you fight with everyone.
32:55Don't get mad.
32:56This apology of crime, of drugs, of corruption is chorial.
33:00Don't fuck with the laugh of your menopausal state.
33:03Because I'm not talking about others.
33:04I'm talking about myself.
33:05No, but you don't know a lot of things.
33:07Amanda, I'm doing very well with chachekism.
33:10I love that you're doing well.
33:11With my programs, with everything I do.
33:13I'm doing well, Aarón.
33:14I love that you're doing well.
33:15Well, let's take advantage of Yanina.
33:16No, no.
33:18It's good that what you just said,
33:20we saw the cut of what you had said in your program about the Jewish community.
33:23Sure, that's what I wanted to clarify.
33:25It's good that you clarified it.
33:26No, because I wanted to clarify it seriously.
33:28Because Mangel goes up again, misinformed.
33:31I'm talking, let's see, I liked the sketch, I didn't like it.
33:34I don't think it's good, because I don't think it's good,
33:36or the performance, or I think it's kind of bad.
33:39But they can do whatever they want.
33:41They also have to make the other person angry.
33:44Because this is what I was saying.
33:46When Olga, you say something that they don't like,
33:48they call you, you don't stop.
33:50Last week she called me from Luis Chela's mother,
33:53to her brother, you understand everything.
33:55So now they have to take advantage of the criticism.
33:58When I said them, it was Olga.
34:00The issue is that now everything is antisemitic.
34:03No, no, but the clarification is fine.
34:05Mangel interpreted that when you said them,
34:08how can we take the same thing?
34:11But sorry, I have to say something,
34:13because she just told me, misinformed again.
34:15And I can't say it.
34:17Mangel misinformed, mandate misinformed.
34:20You are aggressive, Janina Latorre.
34:22You are aggressive, Janina Latorre,
34:24for telling me misinformed.
34:26Tell Mangel.
34:27Do you realize that by speaking badly to people,
34:32you are also the same as the guys?
34:34No, but then don't call me misinformed.
34:37But you already said aggressive.
34:39I also wanted to put a little in context.
34:41I want to take advantage of the space.
34:44Yes, what happened yesterday,
34:47you said this on your show,
34:49in the context I explained to Pamela,
34:51I told her that on social media there were other people
34:53who took advantage of this to raise issues.
34:55No, this was tremendous.
34:57Of course, that's why I wanted to clarify it.
34:59Because when I talk about them,
35:01they all started calling me about the collectivity.
35:03On top of that, I am quite an activist in the Jewish community.
35:06In fact, my advisor is a rabbi.
35:08So I wanted to say that they are not the Jews.
35:12They are the Jews of Olga.
35:14Everything bothers them.
35:16When you say that the Jews are better than Olga,
35:18they call you.
35:19When you say that they stole people from the Jews,
35:21they get offended.
35:22But now they have to bank that they didn't like this.
35:24I think that because of the time of the year,
35:27there are many people who are not well.
35:29If someone is not born in a religion
35:32and is waiting for the birth of the child Jesus,
35:34it is half borderline.
35:36You can't compare it to a bad joke from a stand-up.
35:40In this analysis of the quality of streaming content,
35:45they don't have the right to make bad humor,
35:50to do bad things.
35:52I think that censoring can't be.
35:55They can do whatever they want.
35:57You can choose not to consume them.
35:59But I also understand that you have to bank.
36:02When you expose yourself, you can like it or not.
36:04And you have the right to say,
36:06I liked it.
36:07Now that they want to denounce it,
36:10cancel it,
36:11that they don't see them anymore,
36:12that they lose their job.
36:13Otherwise, no one can say anything.
36:15Yes, totally.
36:16Well, they agreed there, Juan.
36:17Let's take advantage of Yanina.
36:18Ask.
36:19No.
36:20What happens is that if you mess with Araceli's son
36:22and you tell him that he is a moron,
36:23you tell him what this is,
36:24that it is the other thing,
36:25they get offended.
36:26And they have to bank that there are many Christian or Catholic people
36:28who connect with them.
36:29She's going to think about it.
36:30No.
36:31Maybe the other way around, guys.
36:32It's divine because everything is exacerbated.
36:34Of course.
36:35Dani, we were just listening to Migue Granados
36:37talk about what happened and so on.
36:39Let's say, in a light way,
36:41as if he misunderstood everything, right?
36:45Don't you feel that Olga lacked self-criticism
36:47for the people who felt damaged?
36:49Yes, I think they don't have much self-criticism.
36:51Because you know what happened to me?
36:52Last week I went to Olga,
36:54the guest of Migue's show,
36:56and at one point I was sitting
36:58like on the bench of the accused, you know?
37:00For them, because they are cool,
37:03I keep talking about Olga,
37:05which is what I always say,
37:06the one who makes gossips like us
37:08we come to be shit people, you know?
37:10And I was sitting on the bench of the accused
37:13and the questions were,
37:14how do you get home?
37:15Wow.
37:16How do you get to Miss Tranquila?
37:17Guys, I didn't kill anyone.
37:18Nobody died.
37:19I sit down and tell information
37:21about the famous who wants to be known.
37:23We all know how it is.
37:24And now that the discussion is over,
37:27I ask you for Tomás Dente,
37:29if you want to answer me.
37:30I ask you for Tomás Dente,
37:31what do you think of what he said?
37:33It seems to me that he also went to hell
37:35in the same way that Olga's guys
37:37went to hell.
37:38You can't insult Aracely's son
37:39and you can't insult Aracely.
37:41It seems to me that telling him
37:43that he is a self-actress
37:44or telling him that he is an asshole
37:45does not work.
37:46If you are complaining
37:47that you feel attacked,
37:49you cannot go out and attack them
37:51because it is what I tell you again,
37:53they do not consume them.
37:54With this, everyone wants to go up
37:56to hit two or three portals,
37:57like Tomás Dente did.
38:00It seems crazy to me.
38:02Well, and last,
38:04because the debate also has to do
38:05with streaming,
38:06you also work in Bondi.
38:08Yes, I am very pro-streaming.
38:09Yes, and with your networks.
38:11In fact, it has been one of the first
38:13that from the networks,
38:14I create a character.
38:15Diego's wife,
38:16do you remember,
38:17you went to the panel
38:18and today you won your place.
38:21Do you think there is
38:22to regulate streaming?
38:24No, no, no,
38:25because there is no one,
38:27I think not.
38:28What if,
38:29at some point,
38:30it will accommodate.
38:31Now everyone thinks
38:32that putting four chairs,
38:33a camera, a microphone
38:34and opening a YouTube channel
38:35is a streaming program.
38:36Of course not.
38:37I think you have to have
38:38a little respect,
38:39because if you look at guys
38:40like those of Luzo and such,
38:41there is a previous work.
38:42Notice that many of those
38:43who open end up closing.
38:45But I understand
38:46that there is no need to regulate
38:47because YouTube regulates it
38:48quite well,
38:49there are many things
38:50that it lowers them.