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00:00Mahmood Khan has spoken to Ajag Zaheer about the opposition alliance.
00:04In the end, if there is no discussion, there will be civil disobedience.
00:09He has said for the time being to postpone the civil disobedience.
00:13Will Ajag Zaheer take it seriously?
00:15Mahmood Khan will be taken seriously in the party.
00:19So if he says to postpone it, it can be done.
00:21But what will he do after that?
00:22Khansab has to decide.
00:24By the way, Khansab has called him for the meeting.
00:27Who?
00:28He has called 4-5 leaders.
00:29Who?
00:30He has called Mahmood Ajag Zaheer.
00:31He has also called Akhtar Mangal.
00:34I have information that he has also called Maulana Fazl Uman.
00:37Now it is up to the government whether they will allow it or not.
00:41Sir, you do one thing.
00:42These leaders should go on the day of the meeting.
00:44They should go and stand outside Adiala.
00:46This itself will be big news and optics.
00:49A huge news.
00:50That Maulana Fazl Uman is standing outside Adiala jail and he is not allowed to go inside.
00:53This is the evening news.
00:54Sir, Imran Khan has invited him today.
00:56This is the evening news.
00:57I have been told that he has taken the initiative.
01:00I want to talk to all these leaders.
01:02Donald Trump's decision.
01:03There was a lot of talk when Donald Trump won the election.
01:06I am sure you also came with me in the program.
01:08Yes.
01:09And everybody was asking that what will happen now?
01:12You were saying that Donald Trump's campaign funding which was done by the Pakistanis
01:17was done on the guarantee that he will do something for Imran Khan's release.
01:24I was reading a tweet by Hammad Azhar yesterday.
01:26Richard Grenell.
01:27Yes, that is a very significant appointment.
01:29It is a very important appointment.
01:30Very important appointment.
01:31And the reason for that is his tweets about Imran Khan.
01:34He has been a great advocate for his freedom.
01:36So, what do you think?
01:39What is your hope as PTI that what will happen?
01:42Do you have any talks with your diaspora?
01:45I can share with you that there is already a lot of pressure on them.
01:49The democratic traditions and human rights in this context.
01:52I can tell you the name of the pressure but I won't because we are in a public domain.
01:57Will the pressure on people like Richard Grenell's appointment increase?
02:03It can increase.
02:04I am not saying that it will increase.
02:06Appointment.
02:07But would it put pressure on Donald Trump to do something?
02:11I have already spoken to our international leadership about Donald Trump.
02:19They have said that they have guaranteed that we will consider this.
02:25And you can consider it and reject it.
02:29No, no.
02:30This is how we talk diplomatically.
02:32But sir, won't this interfere with the internal affairs of Pakistan?
02:35I am saying that I don't depend on them.
02:38I told you in the last program that I am not depending on them.
02:41But when you are talking, I am just saying that they have their own stakeholders.
02:46They have their own complexities.
02:48They have to make their own policies.
02:50Pakistan figures very low in their equation.
02:53Virtually, we don't figure there at all.
02:55So, what do you expect in these circumstances?
02:57Given the new Afghanistan reality.
02:59But there is a lot of pressure on the government.
03:02Sir, Ali, two last questions.
03:04First, they announced that they will fire bullets.
03:07Now, we will fire bullets.
03:10Has this become a policy?
03:12No, sir.
03:13This cannot become a policy.
03:15Sir, firing bullets cannot become a policy.
03:17If I tell you, will you listen?
03:18No, I have heard.
03:19I have heard.
03:20I would put that.
03:21Such statements keep coming in politics.
03:23I have seen many more.
03:24Do you consider this a political statement?
03:26Absolutely, nothing more than that.
03:27And PTI will reject it if it comes out.
03:30Look, political issues cannot be solved in the battlefield.
03:36Politicians do not go to the battlefield anyway.
03:40If they go, they should sit at the table.
03:42They should sit at the table and talk.
03:44And this civil disobedience and KPK government.
03:46Can they do something about civil disobedience here?
03:49Because this question was asked to Ali Muhammad Khan.
03:53He said that KPK is our government.
03:55We will do it where Form 47 is in power.
03:57The problem is that this is for Imran Khan's release.
03:59They are joining it with Form 47 and the election audit.
04:03So can KPK do something about it?
04:05That is not on the table yet.
04:09What happens, Mr. Kashif, the meeting with Mr. Khan,
04:12which is of Ali Amin, the decision will be made only after that.
04:15I can say strongly in the context of Ali Muhammad Khan's statement
04:20that the role that Pakistan will play, KP will also play.
04:24In fact, KP will play the biggest role.
04:28Our support base is in KP.
04:32So why won't he play?
04:34I say that he will not play. That is not correct.

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