Sister Wives Season 9 Episode 14
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00:00Previously on Sister Wives.
00:02Oh my God.
00:06I've never felt like this before.
00:08Never been this much in love either.
00:10I never loved Cody as much as I love David.
00:12We're getting married!
00:14Woo!
00:16It's been like, what, two days? Three days, maybe?
00:18I want to start dating guys who kind of believe the same thing
00:23and have the same, like, life goal as me.
00:26They're interested in dating, you know,
00:29a guy that is, has similar beliefs,
00:32but I'm like, hey, that's not, shouldn't be the reason
00:34why you're at a church.
00:35They don't have any churches around here
00:37that would let them put on marriage.
00:39I don't have the same call to it.
00:43I even hear it now, like, you probably would do
00:45one more chance.
00:47There's a point where they don't deserve the chances.
00:50It was a good time with him.
00:52It was.
00:56And now we're done.
00:59Ah, cheers to that.
01:27It's nice to go on a date, and we're going on one.
01:31I like to connect with this woman.
01:35Okay, you guys all good? You good?
01:39All right, okay, so you're always good.
01:41When you have kids at home, and especially little kids,
01:45it's not always easy to go out on a date.
01:49The girls are very busy with college,
01:51and, you know, it's like, you know,
01:53you got homework, you got bedtime, you got dinner.
01:56All right, bye, I love you.
01:59See ya.
02:02So when I take her out, I hope she doesn't feel pressure.
02:07But I'm like, oh, I finally got her all to myself.
02:11There's so much I want to talk about.
02:16Want me to get your chair, Robyn?
02:18Okay.
02:20Aurora and Brianna came to me and asked me
02:23about, like, trying to help them find a church.
02:26They're just ready for that step in their lives,
02:29so I need to kind of talk to Cody
02:31and fill him out to see what he thinks.
02:35We're going to have an engagement party.
02:37It's just another reason to all get together
02:39and have our kids really mingle with each other.
02:46I definitely did not have an engagement party
02:48when I married Cody.
02:50It's so weird, in a church,
02:52you're like, oh, I'm going to have an engagement party.
02:55It's so weird.
02:57It's like, oh, I'm going to have an engagement party.
03:00It's so weird.
03:02When I married Cody, it's so weird.
03:04In a church that celebrates plural marriage,
03:07they don't celebrate the weddings of plural wives.
03:18Then maybe it's because it's a whole society in secrecy,
03:21so the plural marriages get swept under,
03:23you know, do it all in secrecy.
03:26I didn't tell you I was coming.
03:28You look amazing, Mama.
03:30Christine is having so much fun.
03:32She's doing all the things, right,
03:34all the things associated with getting married.
03:36It's going to be a really quick trip.
03:38I'm going home tomorrow, but I'm going to be here.
03:40Do you know, I like your dress.
03:42You look incredible.
03:43That's awesome.
03:44Hey.
03:45Incredible.
03:46I love it. It's so cute.
03:48Yeah, I didn't have an engagement party when I married Cody.
03:50It wasn't really a big deal.
03:52Like, we, it just wasn't something we really did.
03:55I did it. I wore it.
03:58Oh, my God.
03:59Janelle and Hunter are here.
04:01For them to come so far to just come to an engagement party
04:04means a lot.
04:05We have this, you know, bit of a messed up family right now,
04:08so having things that we do together is really important.
04:12We'll make sure you guys get food.
04:14The burrito tacos with the consomme are where it's at.
04:17Okay.
04:18And the street corn.
04:19Mom's now engaged.
04:20We're extremely happy for her.
04:22She's been engaged for two seconds.
04:23She's been dating him for ten seconds.
04:25But we're all very happy for her.
04:28It's so beautiful.
04:29Thanks, sister.
04:30In white.
04:32And now send the bride.
04:33I've been noticing Christine's wearing white more and more,
04:36but it's tacos, so I'm not sure how that's going to go.
04:39But, you know, she doesn't have to, she can be careful.
04:41I bet, nobody's bet me yet, five bucks,
04:44she'll get something on that dress.
04:46Want to take that bet?
04:49Why are you betting against me?
04:52He's rubbish.
04:54David just loves to push buttons.
04:56McKelvie and David are so similar.
04:58I'm basically marrying my daughter.
04:59It's awesome.
05:01Oh, my gosh, I'm so excited.
05:02I'm not getting the dipping sauce tonight, sadly enough.
05:05I would spill all over myself.
05:07But I brought a white backup dress.
05:09Our kids have meshed really well together.
05:13They're doing fantastic.
05:14McKelvie's always like,
05:16why are you guys breaking up into, like, different sections?
05:19I don't like this, and she makes sure everybody gets together,
05:21and his daughter, Rae, does the same thing.
05:23David and my kids, that relationship is going really, really well.
05:27My relationship with David's kids is going well.
05:29He has some amazing children.
05:32Amazing people.
05:36The tacos are so good, and there's this dipping consomme sauce,
05:39and I knew I shouldn't, I knew I shouldn't dip it,
05:42but it's so good with the dipping sauce.
05:45Damn it, I did it.
05:47And I dipped it, and first bite, boom, shakalaka.
05:51I'm that person, even though I wear very boring colors,
05:54I always have one of those stain pens in my purse.
05:58I'm messy regardless of what color,
06:00so I know that I need one of those all the time with me.
06:03With you? I think so.
06:05Hang on.
06:07I've been trying to travel with that.
06:09I have beef broth on my white dress,
06:12and David's not here right now,
06:14so I have an opportunity to get rid of this spot
06:18before he comes back, and I'm like, Janelle.
06:21Before David comes, he's bet it against you.
06:23No, Janelle, no, no.
06:27Janelle, rush.
06:29I start scrubbing it, and McKelty saw,
06:32and McKelty looks over, and she's like, David.
06:36Getting him to come over faster, and I'm scrubbing it.
06:39No, I got you.
06:43I won myself $5.
06:46Thank you, thank you.
06:48And he wasn't even casual about it.
06:50He just basically was excited to win $5.
06:54It's not being used.
06:56You might have to kind of wake it up.
06:58I remember telling my brother one time
07:00we were watching a ridiculous show
07:02where it was love at first sight,
07:04and I just told him, I said, it's not like that.
07:06There's no such thing as love like that.
07:08Love happens over time.
07:10It can also be a spark.
07:12I mean, I knew I loved Cody, and I was in love with Cody,
07:15but how I feel about David is so astronomically deeper.
07:20Already?
07:21Shut up!
07:23Didn't I tell you $5?
07:26That shrimp looks amazing.
07:28This was really good.
07:29Take the shrimp, then.
07:30Well, no, I want to take the shrimp.
07:31That's the best part.
07:32I'm already wet.
07:33I'm already dirty, so I might as well just eat this right now.
07:36Can I have a bite of it?
07:38Can I try that?
07:41I'm just going to come over and eat all your guys' food.
07:43This family likes to share food.
07:44I've never shared food in my life.
07:46Wait, really?
07:47Until I met you guys.
07:48David, I didn't take you for a stingy guy, but, you know.
07:51Oh!
07:55Oh, I love it.
07:56Like, how can you never share your food?
07:58There's so many good flavors at the table.
08:01I got to go over here.
08:04Look.
08:05Did you see the cake?
08:08Ha, ha, ha!
08:10Crucial thing that I've learned with David
08:13is he really wants to be involved with everything.
08:16I could ask Cody after the fact, but with David,
08:19no, he prefers to be in on the plan.
08:21He just really cares, and he's really invested,
08:24and it's his wedding, too.
08:26Are you going to eat that piece?
08:28Yes, yes.
08:29You're going to eat David's?
08:30That's cool.
08:31I like that.
08:32I'm watching Christine, and she's having her own adventure,
08:34the one she wanted.
08:35It's awesome.
08:36You have to practice.
08:37What?
08:38You have to practice cake cutting.
08:40Cutting into our faces?
08:41Yes.
08:42No.
08:43Well, you can cut the cake.
08:44Yes.
08:45Okay, perfect.
08:46They have to practice.
08:47Thank you, Aspen.
08:48Why can't they do it?
08:49This is beautiful.
08:51Okay.
08:53Oh, she just cut our heads off.
08:56Oh, oh, oh.
08:59So much work went into this picture,
09:01and they just cut into it.
09:04No, I'll eat.
09:05You eat mine, I eat yours.
09:06Yeah.
09:07There you go.
09:09Eat her mouth.
09:10You're eating my mouth?
09:11That's disgusting.
09:12I'm also going to eat your mouth.
09:15Nice, nice.
09:16There you go.
09:18Look how big her mouth is.
09:19How is it?
09:20How is it?
09:21It's good.
09:23It's delicious.
09:24Okay, good.
09:25Well done.
09:26Good.
09:27So David and I have only known each other for, like,
09:28nine months, and so there's so many things
09:30that we don't really know about each other,
09:32and we're planning a wedding together.
09:34It's like crash course.
09:35It's crash course of getting to know somebody,
09:37planning a wedding together.
09:41Nice to be on a date.
09:42Nice to be on a date.
09:44So I wanted to talk to you about something.
09:47No, I think that I probably did most of my crying
09:51in the decade prior to the actual divorce.
09:55Yeah.
09:56It's like false hope, false hope, false hope.
09:58All the cheating.
09:59I'm just kidding.
10:00All the cheating.
10:02All the cheating.
10:12So I am dragging, kicking, and screaming Jen
10:17down to Las Vegas, and we are going to go see
10:20our good friend Brandi.
10:21So ready?
10:22Are you excited?
10:23I'm so excited.
10:24Listen, you're going to be excited, homie.
10:26You're going to be happy.
10:27You're going to smile about this.
10:29Yes.
10:30Excited.
10:31So excited to go to hell.
10:34Jen doesn't like Vegas because there's a lot of people
10:36and it's hot, and I think it's hilarious because
10:39she lived there for so many years of her life.
10:43Jen and I met while she and I were both living
10:46in Las Vegas.
10:48Well, look what I bought.
10:52Chi Chi chillers.
10:57Jen does not like the heat.
10:59You know, those eye masks that you freeze
11:02and just use them as Chi Chi chillers.
11:04We should go break into your old neighborhood.
11:08Oh, it's completely breaking in.
11:10That's a gated community.
11:12I don't want to see it.
11:14Wait a second.
11:15Maybe it would be good for me to see it.
11:17Mike, it's closure.
11:30Hello.
11:31Hello.
11:32Hi.
11:33Hi.
11:34Hello.
11:36So good to see you.
11:38You're hot.
11:39Look at you.
11:40So are you.
11:41But you're warm.
11:42We're all hot.
11:43Are you going to sit with us?
11:44We went to a grocery store on the way over here.
11:46Sit right there.
11:47And I was telling Mary that we should go by her old house.
11:52Oh.
11:53Like full circle.
11:54The last time I was in Las Vegas, it was really painful.
11:57But I'm thinking hanging out with Brandi and the three of us,
12:01I think will be really good to create some new memories
12:06about Las Vegas.
12:07And I think that's what I really need to do.
12:09Because I do love Las Vegas.
12:11She really freaked out.
12:12There was one day that I referred to Cody as her ex.
12:17And then she, like, wasn't paying attention.
12:19She said something about her ex.
12:21And she was like, whoa.
12:22That's when I hit you?
12:23Yeah.
12:24I was like, oh.
12:25Did you cry?
12:26It's an ex.
12:27No.
12:28No, I didn't.
12:29When I referred to him as my ex, it was really weird.
12:32It kind of hit me kind of hard.
12:34No, I think that I probably did most of my crying in the decade
12:40prior to the actual divorce.
12:43Yeah.
12:44There was definitely a lot of tears during those years.
12:46Like false hope, false hope, false hope.
12:48The cheating?
12:49I'm just kidding.
12:50All the cheating.
12:52She was aware.
12:53No, like the fall.
12:54Because there was, like, times where he'd tell her,
12:56if you do these things, then we can work on our relationship.
12:59Yeah, no, I remember many, many misleading conversations.
13:05Cody basically had a list for me to do
13:09before we would start working on our relationship.
13:15So I'm excited to be here.
13:16Holy cow.
13:17I know.
13:18It's nice, right?
13:19Yes.
13:20To be here.
13:21It's nice to be on a date.
13:22Nice to be on a date.
13:25All of our experience with family who has moved on,
13:30that brings a lot of pain into our lives,
13:33and we're just removing that from our lives.
13:36It's a lot of pain.
13:37It's a lot of pain.
13:40That brings a lot of pain into our lives,
13:42and we're just removing that from our plate right now
13:45and connecting with each other.
13:47So I wanted to talk to you about something.
13:49You wouldn't have two little children running in
13:51and interrupting us.
13:52Recently, the girls have been sort of expressing,
13:56Rob and Brianna have been expressing
13:58an interest in going to church,
14:00and, like, we don't have a church to go to.
14:05The girls are really just wanting to be able to attend church,
14:10kind of get a church community that they can interact with,
14:15and then just be able to learn more and find their path,
14:20their religious or spiritual path.
14:23But it's more than just going to church.
14:25They're sort of in this place where they want to look
14:28for a church to be a part of.
14:32They have asked me to kind of help them or facilitate
14:39or sort of be a part of the situation
14:41and, like, go with them to different churches.
14:44You mean you both or just you?
14:46I think Robyn's the most comfortable person
14:48for any of my children to speak with.
14:50Like I said, I talk about religion with my children all the time.
14:53We talk about it a little bit.
14:54But Robyn specifically, they're coming to her saying,
14:57we want to do this.
14:59What do you think?
15:00I asked them both,
15:01are you interested in our church?
15:04And they kind of said, Aurora said no.
15:08And Brianna said probably not.
15:11Our church was literally kind of an excommunication of people
15:16who used to be members of the LDS church
15:19or who had affiliation with that.
15:21However, they had this doctrine of plural marriage
15:25where it is required by commandment for any of those
15:29who want to progress through eternity.
15:32I wouldn't really have a problem with any of my kids
15:34going to plural marriage,
15:35even though I would be warning them of some red flags.
15:38Going back to our old religion,
15:40I don't think I'd be very fond of them doing that.
15:43Also, they are finding that it's hard to, like,
15:48find guys to date that have sort of similar values as them.
15:52I have some questions.
15:57I've got mixed reactions to this.
15:58My first reaction that I know is the right reaction is,
16:00great, I'm glad they're going to do this.
16:02But I have my own almost phobias of religion or churches.
16:10So you have some, like, apprehension then.
16:13Yeah, okay.
16:14So you're worried about what exactly?
16:17I'm just, I don't know.
16:20I've got some concerns.
16:21I'm really glad that they want to go on this journey,
16:24that they're going to go on it.
16:25I have all my own anxieties and fears and struggles here
16:29that I have to keep from poisoning
16:31in any way their experience.
16:33As long as I can steer them clear of any culty-like churches,
16:38I'll be okay.
16:42After, like, it was done.
16:45Like, it was done, done, done.
16:47And I said, Cody, you have no interest
16:51in, like, having a relationship with me.
16:53It's like, no, you said you didn't want to be married to me,
16:56so why should I stick around for another 10 years, dumbass?
17:09Did I tell you after, like, it was done?
17:15Not too long after I had been up in Utah
17:19and actually had that spiritual release
17:22from the church leaders, like, within the week,
17:25he goes, why did you do it so fast?
17:30He said that?
17:31Yeah, he's like, I don't understand
17:32why you did it so fast.
17:33You have a guy on the side waiting.
17:35What was the context?
17:36Like, I mean, how?
17:37He didn't understand why.
17:39That question does not even make sense.
17:41I said, really, you think that that was really fast?
17:44And no, how insulting.
17:46I said, Cody, you have no interest
17:50in, like, having a relationship with me,
17:54having a husband-wife relationship with me.
17:56What else are we supposed to do?
17:58This is the only other option.
17:59No.
18:00It's like, no, you said you didn't want to be married to me,
18:02so why should I stick around for another 10 years, dumbass?
18:06I texted him after, like, when I was on my way home from Utah.
18:10I texted him.
18:11And he called me within 20 minutes.
18:15Oh.
18:16It was a good text.
18:17I read it to you.
18:18Yeah.
18:19It was a good text.
18:20It was like.
18:21Do you want to hear it?
18:22Yeah.
18:23OK, I do.
18:24I don't know why I go out of my way
18:26to be nice when he so flippantly and comfortably
18:30talks about me.
18:31I said this on my way back.
18:33Hi, Cody, just wanted to follow up from the text
18:36I sent a couple of weeks ago.
18:37Just wanted to let you know that I
18:39had a conversation with the leadership in Utah today,
18:42and the official release was granted.
18:45When Cody and I got married, it was
18:48like one ceremony that covered the legal
18:52and the spiritual marriage.
18:54And so now doing the legal divorce,
18:57it, like, it was really a mind game on me,
19:01because I felt like emotionally that I
19:04was signing away the marriage.
19:06I know.
19:07You want a big hug?
19:08No, I'm sorry.
19:09I'm just holding on to you.
19:11Co-petitioners are incompatible in marriage.
19:16That's why it was so crazy for me, because it was like,
19:20but I know it's only the legal part.
19:22The spiritual part is still intact.
19:25I'm brokenhearted that our life came to this.
19:27I will always love and respect you.
19:28Thank you for many years of joy.
19:30I hope you truly will have peace now,
19:33and I release you from any responsibility
19:35or worry about me.
19:36I got this.
19:37You're like, thank you for your service.
19:40I'm sorry.
19:44I'm so sorry.
19:51It is what it is with Brandi, and she's just going to say
19:54I love that about her.
19:56I do.
20:04Religion comes with a lot of pressure,
20:06and I've been spending a lot of time losing my religion
20:08while I've been finding my faith.
20:10When I met Cody, he was very much involved in our church,
20:14and from my understanding, he was happy in our church.
20:17I mean, I wouldn't have probably considered marrying him
20:20if I didn't think he was.
20:22Us going public, I think, really,
20:25the way that our church reacted to that
20:27really kind of threw him off,
20:29and it made him feel just like, wait, what the heck?
20:32Our church leaders were mad when we went public.
20:36They didn't get it.
20:37Family didn't get it.
20:38Friends didn't get it.
20:39No one got it, and we're like, we're done living in fear.
20:41We're done living like having other people think the worst of us
20:44just because we're a polygamous family.
20:46They think all these things about us that aren't true.
20:48We thought everybody would be on board.
20:52Yeah, they weren't.
20:53Some of them were like, going to be the demise of your family,
20:59which is kind of funny.
21:00Like, it's not funny at all, actually.
21:03I found that my faith started to contradict the religionist attitudes,
21:08sort of the gatekeepers.
21:11My church was trying to put me in kind of a teaching leadership position.
21:16They saw my hair as rebellious.
21:18So, Cody, you need to cut your hair.
21:20Don't tell me to do things that aren't required by the law or by God.
21:23I don't want to be getting into something that turns out to be kind of culty.
21:27You can lose your children to a bad marriage.
21:30You can lose your children to just huge disagreements between the two of you.
21:34You can lose your children in a divorce, or you can lose your children to a cult.
21:40I'm safe for them, right?
21:41Absolutely.
21:42Okay.
21:43The reason I'm asking that is because we're not having those discussions.
21:46I don't know for sure, but I think religion is a really intense topic for you.
21:55You get a little intense.
21:57Okay.
21:58He's intimidating.
21:59I don't think he realizes it, though.
22:02I don't know.
22:04I did talk to my dad about religion beforehand, just asking questions generally and stuff like that.
22:09Between my mom and my dad, they have different strengths in the way that they process things and communicate things.
22:14He's going to give, like, an unfiltered response, which I really appreciate about him.
22:18I could be wrong.
22:19If I had a guess.
22:21Something brought it up with you so that I wouldn't go going off on some tea and off on some lecture about.
22:27I don't know.
22:28You cannot just be conforming to everybody else, because then you're really not developing real faith.
22:34Find some Buddhism.
22:35Find some Jesus.
22:36Either way.
22:37I want them to have experience that helps love grow in them.
22:43They need to go experience this for themselves.
22:46Right.
22:47The idea of trying to, like, encourage them or pressure them into our church, I just didn't see that as something that was important.
22:54When I saw parents doing that with their kids, I was like, OK, this is messed up.
22:58They need to find their own way.
23:00And you would be the type to go, like.
23:04I already know.
23:05I'm going to hold my scriptures on my lap, and that preacher's going to be saying something I'm going to be in.
23:09I'm going to be looking for whether he's right or if he's wrong.
23:12And everybody in the room is going to know whether or not you agree.
23:16When I was conflicted in my religion, I loved it because it drove me to my knees in prayer for understanding.
23:23And I don't know where that got me.
23:25But you know what it did get me is a relationship in my prayers with God.
23:29So if my children come to me confused about religion or the things that are being taught, I believe from my experience I'll be happy that they're having any kind of challenging experience because they'll learn to talk to God.
23:46I think.
23:47I hope.
23:48That's my prayer.
23:50Something I need to do is figure out how to sort of ride in the back seat on this experience, let them find their way.
23:57Yeah.
23:58One of the things I did tease him about, and I said, I don't want you to choose a church or a community based on good-looking guys.
24:08But it was just kind of like, I want you to, like, really take it seriously based on.
24:13Well, I'd be perfectly fine with one of my daughters going to church at the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for a cute boy.
24:20I wouldn't.
24:22I don't want our children to do it just based on a cute kid, a cute boy there.
24:28If you get a boy that's very devout to his church and she's just there for him, that's for the wrong reasons.
24:34They might find a community that gives them a social outlet, people to actually associate with, even date.
24:42All I am is a knight with a sword.
24:46I mean, like, I'm here to protect you.
24:48But because I played king with some of my other daughters, I got put aside.
24:54My close-mindedness caused me a lot of heartache.
25:01I mean, I did love him.
25:03I do love him.
25:04I just can't.
25:07I'm not, you know, I just wasn't willing to do that anymore.
25:11The reason why I stayed so long was purely because of me and my commitment.
25:17There's a lot of men interested in Robin, and they were sort of trying to get around me and to her.
25:23I want to know that God has been my wingman with you and that nobody can take you away.
25:34Oh, what did he say when he called you?
25:37He was kind of upset during that phone call.
25:42Like, he started getting really defensive, like, a few times.
25:45And I said, Cody, I'm not going to do this.
25:47Like, we're where we are.
25:49It's done.
25:50There's no reason to get defensive.
25:52I think that Cody was expecting me to be different than what I was.
25:59He probably expected me to be snarky and mean or crying or whatever.
26:06I've seen the last couple of years.
26:08I've seen him and a couple exes not necessarily being on their best behavior.
26:16All three of them, I have watched them.
26:18And I haven't been impressed.
26:22We can all do a little bit better.
26:24I haven't been impressed.
26:25We can all do a little bit better.
26:27I mean, you know, it'd be nice if we didn't all know what we thought about the other person.
26:31When you've got three wives that leave one guy, it is going to be a mess.
26:38You know, during the split with Cody, I tried to always be very practical, very logical, but definitely stand up for myself.
26:44And I'm sorry if some people thought that that was rude or wrong, but I'm just standing up for myself.
26:49I'm not trying to be vindictive.
26:50Just standing up for myself and for my kids.
26:53I don't know why he cares.
26:54He doesn't even participate in that.
26:57It was a control thing, I think.
26:59Yeah, you're right.
27:00He had no control over her finally ending it.
27:03I really feel like that was a big part of it.
27:05You're totally right, I'm sure.
27:06There was a couple of times in that conversation that I shut him down.
27:10I'm like, I'm not going to listen to you talk to me that way.
27:12I'm not talking to you that way.
27:14And I don't deserve it back from you.
27:16And you were like Stockholm Syndrome.
27:21Do you know?
27:22You were like stuck with your, fall in love with your captor that won't let you have a life.
27:29Brandy doesn't even know who I am.
27:32I went to dinner with her a couple times, helped her and her husband move once.
27:35Do they know me?
27:36Mary doesn't need to trash talk me anymore.
27:39She's got her friends doing it for her.
27:41Friends that don't know me.
27:44Brandy and her husband Tim and Cody and I used to go out on double dates together quite often.
27:50Jen's been around since we lived in the rentals.
27:53That's when we met her.
27:55So the narrative that they don't know him or he doesn't know them or, you know, like is really inaccurate.
28:02I mean, I did love him.
28:05I do love him.
28:06I just, I just can't, I'm not, you know, I just wasn't willing to do that anymore.
28:12It definitely wasn't Stockholm syndrome.
28:15I mean, it's kind of funny to laugh about it.
28:17Like I committed that, you know, we were going to work it out.
28:22Like good times, bad times, whatever.
28:24We're going to make it work.
28:25The reason why I say so long was purely because of me and my commitment.
28:36So do we, do we need to do any cleanup on our relationship or are we just talking religion?
28:42Well, I wanted to make sure that like the, you're cool with, like, I want to go to church.
28:50I just need it.
28:52I mean, we don't have our church nearby, but I don't think that that's even something you would ever.
29:00Okay.
29:01So for me, that's not a safe place.
29:04Most religion says you got to stick to this doctrine.
29:08And if you don't, then you're apostate, you're evil, your God can't accept you.
29:13Tell me that I have to cut my hair.
29:15I mean, give me a break.
29:17I mean, you're all disciples of Brigham Young and he had long hair and a long beard.
29:21Please.
29:22I know that Cody has not very positive attitudes and opinions about our church.
29:31So I was just kind of like, yeah, I know you don't.
29:35I know.
29:36I know.
29:37Heard it a lot.
29:39Are you okay with them going to church then?
29:42Yeah, absolutely.
29:43And you're okay with me going to church?
29:45Like you're not going to have some sort of problem with that?
29:47Yeah, as long as you guys aren't blocking me out.
29:49Like I want to come sooner or later.
29:52Okay.
29:53That's why I wasn't sure if you were interested in that or not.
29:57Well, you don't want to go too long without me because I don't want some guy thinking you're a single mom.
30:01There's a lot of men interested in Robin and they were sort of trying to get around me and to her.
30:07Because the first time I saw you in our church.
30:10Okay.
30:11We made that gaze.
30:13No, I made that gaze.
30:16Oh, no, no, no, no.
30:17I looked longer.
30:18By the time you looked away, I actually said that was probably inappropriate.
30:21She is most likely married.
30:23First time I saw Robin, the first time I ever laid eyes on her,
30:27I was leaning over the back of a chair talking to a neighbor behind me.
30:34And we locked eyes.
30:36And I couldn't break away.
30:42And what happened to you at that time?
30:45I just want to know.
30:46You want to hear it.
30:47You like hearing this, don't you?
30:48I want to know that God has been my wingman with you and that nobody can take you away.
30:53I was sitting there with my cousin.
30:54I was looking around.
30:56I looked at you for a while and the thing that caught my eye as far as seeing you was your laugh lines,
31:01because I love laugh lines.
31:03And then you looked at me and a bolt of lightning shot through my body.
31:11I saw Cody for the first time at church and then I got my lightning bolt.
31:16And a month later, randomly, I met Cody and Mary on my cousin's lawn.
31:23I don't want some guy doing that, looking at you and going, holding your gaze.
31:28Like, yeah, I'm night guarding now.
31:30I am protecting the pride.
31:32I just have to say I'm married.
31:34Let me see that rock.
31:36I want to see it.
31:37I want to see it.
31:38I'll wear it.
31:39You don't need to worry.
31:41I just wanted to make sure that bling was big enough the guys would stay away from you.
31:45Oh, my gosh.
31:47Even though I've got some anxieties about it, I feel like I'm pretty open-minded.
31:51We don't know what's going to happen.
31:52It's part of the adventure of life.
31:54I trust God enough to sort of lead us where we should go.
32:03Okay, I can't.
32:04You're going to have to just tell her because I'm going to throw my damn cup through the wall.
32:08I get so frustrated.
32:10About, like, our breakup conversation?
32:12About what you said in front of Nathan and Rebecca.
32:17I don't know.
32:27I used to defend him when people would say, oh, he's such a, I'm like, no, he's nice.
32:34He's cool.
32:36He helped move me up here.
32:39It was on what would have been our 33rd anniversary.
32:42That's right.
32:43Like, it was cool.
32:44It was fun.
32:45I mean, it was a good day.
32:46It was so emotional.
32:47He was, like, full on breakdown.
32:50Like, it was very, and it felt very strong.
32:54We have permission to move on.
33:06At the time, I was like, how is this possible because of all the hard things that he said?
33:11That's how I feel about it.
33:12I still feel about it.
33:13I still question, like, he walked out the door and I looked at her, I'm like, did I do the wrong thing here?
33:19You were so much more forgiving and patient than I think most people could see.
33:24And I kept telling myself and telling her, I would say, as a monogamist, I feel like you should tell him to get the hell out of your life completely.
33:31But I understand that that's not where you're at.
33:33I've always thought this.
33:35And you always said, no, that's not true.
33:39He's not.
33:40I always saw him favor her, Robin.
33:43I don't believe that Robin entered the family with the intention of kicking me and Janelle and Christine out.
33:52I think that she saw what we had at that time and wanted that.
33:58I really believe that.
34:00I don't understand how COVID became he has to stay at her house all the time.
34:08His reasoning with it was that he wanted to keep his family safe.
34:15He wanted to keep his little kids safe.
34:17I just, none of this makes sense.
34:19I'm sorry.
34:20It was favoritism.
34:22And that's it.
34:23So for two years, she did every single thing he asked her to do.
34:27Well, we can't favor you.
34:28OK, but she's following the protocols.
34:30So what does it matter?
34:31That is gaslighting.
34:33There you go.
34:34That's gaslighting.
34:35With Robin, I feel like I've put in a lot.
34:39And especially over COVID, it's like I was the one who was always calling.
34:45It wasn't being reciprocated.
34:46And I really believe that a relationship has to be reciprocal.
34:50And it wasn't reciprocal.
34:52A perfect example is at your mom's funeral.
34:57Yeah, that was hard.
34:59The fact that Robin didn't come to my mom's funeral
35:02and support me in that way at that time was very hurtful to me.
35:06You know, they were following the COVID rules.
35:08And, you know, I felt really bad about that.
35:12And I kind of understood.
35:14But also, Cody ended up going too, you know.
35:17So I just, the whole thing was really confusing to me that she wouldn't go
35:21because Janelle went.
35:22Cody went because we couldn't both quarantine away from the kids for that long.
35:27I didn't have, you know, I didn't have that option.
35:30During this time, I was missing all kinds of things.
35:33Avalon's birth.
35:34My dad was super sick and in the hospital.
35:36I wish I could have.
35:38I love Bonnie.
35:39And I wanted to be supportive to Mary.
35:42And I would have been there in a heartbeat if it hadn't been the situation
35:45that we were dealing with with COVID.
35:47It's always been, I'm there for you.
35:50I'm always going to be there for you.
35:51And then there's been multiple times where she hasn't been there.
35:56But Mary has then been there for her.
35:58I quit calling her and texting her because I was the only one doing it.
36:03It wasn't meant to be mean.
36:05It was just, I need this to be reciprocal if it's going to be a relationship.
36:10And it wasn't.
36:11But I don't know.
36:12I don't know what happened.
36:13I don't know what happened behind the scenes.
36:15I don't either.
36:16But everybody contributed, honestly.
36:18Like knowing every single thing I know.
36:20I think Robin did.
36:21I think there was lots of things.
36:22Like for the downfall of the family.
36:24Yeah.
36:25But also the downfall of your own marriage.
36:29You have done a really good job of staying out of everyone else's marriage.
36:34And not everyone else did a good job of staying out of yours.
36:37Yeah, I know.
36:38There was a lot of stuff said about me.
36:40Okay, so they were on the property having this conversation.
36:43Okay, I can't.
36:44You're going to have to just tell her because I'm going to throw my damn cup
36:47through the wall.
36:48I get so frustrated.
36:50About like our breakup conversation?
36:53About what you said in front of Nathan and Rebecca.
36:56So basically, Cody and I had our breakup conversation.
37:01We were out on the property and we were talking about it.
37:04And like it just kind of started coming up.
37:06And we're like, all right, well, we're here.
37:08We're talking about it.
37:09Let's talk about it.
37:10Well, Robin was there too.
37:11You want something that we can't have together?
37:16Yeah.
37:21I'm sorry.
37:22I need to move away.
37:24I'm sorry.
37:26I'm sorry.
37:27I just want to be supportive of you too, but I just need to move away.
37:30And so she was upset by it, you know.
37:33And so she stood up and she walked away.
37:35So later, Cody goes, I don't understand him, Brandi.
37:44I don't understand him at all.
37:49I don't even know what I'm going to say.
37:51I'm sorry.
37:52I'm trying not to look at you.
37:53It frustrates the hell out of me.
37:55I'm so sorry.
37:56He goes, that was so hard on Robin.
38:00I thought it was fair for you and I to have a conversation
38:02without Robin being involved in it.
38:04100%.
38:06I agree with you.
38:07Poor girl.
38:08That whole talk just wrecked her.
38:10OK.
38:12What?
38:13No, wait.
38:14Wait, there's more.
38:15No, no, there can't be more.
38:17Poor girl.
38:19Stop.
38:20It was hard on Robin.
38:21And I looked at him.
38:22I'm like, yeah, it was kind of hard on me too.
38:26You got a tough go of it too there, buddy.
38:28You think?
38:29I'm not discounting how hard it was on Robin.
38:32It's like he's completely discounting me.
38:35The fact that he and I started this family together.
38:39If you would have cried, he would have taken it seriously.
38:42It was so weird.
38:44Why is he so stupid?
38:46So she'd be really threatened if he met a girl that
38:49cries like all the time.
38:51I just need to.
38:53I mean, it was kind of hard on me too, Cody.
38:55There was already a lot of tear shed.
38:57And he didn't care about it.
38:59My legs are hurting, you guys.
39:01I know.
39:02My foot's asleep.
39:03Let's go.
39:04Because I don't want to be over there in the dark.
39:05We're going to go look at the house.
39:06We're going to look sketchy.
39:07We're going to go have closure.
39:08OK.
39:10You have one red tomato.
39:12OK, don't make fun of me if I don't know how to drive.
39:15It's rude.
39:17I have a plan for him.
39:18Oh, yeah, they did the fences.
39:21Well, ladies.
39:23It looks so different.
39:25Like, everything grew.
39:28We had such a dream when we moved here.
39:30And it was really sad when we left.
39:33I've been back to the cul-de-sac a few times.
39:36I wonder a lot if we would have stayed together,
39:38if we would have stayed in Las Vegas.
39:40I've been back to the cul-de-sac one time.
39:44It was hard.
39:45It was really difficult.
39:47You know, I have never gone back to see the cul-de-sac in Vegas.
39:50I just haven't really had any interest or inclination.
39:54To me, that's like the chapter is closed.
39:57I don't need to go back and see the location.
39:59But I know that some people in our family
40:01have felt like that was healing or beneficial.
40:05There was a lot of cool things that happened here.
40:08But now it's somebody else's cool stuff.
40:11I'm feeling a little bit anxious.
40:15It's very awkward.
40:17It's weird.
40:18Very much feeling like I don't need to be here very long.
40:22All right.
40:23Let's go.
40:24I'm done.
40:25I'm sorry.
40:26I'm not.
40:27I'm not.
40:28Y'all, it's cool.
40:30It's awesome.
40:31It's weird.
40:32But I'm, like, beyond it.
40:33I'm so glad you're beyond it.
40:35I am.
40:36It's not helping.
40:39I don't want to.
40:42Trust me.
40:43Do you guys want ice cream after pizza?
40:46Yeah.
40:47And chicken?
40:48I brought ice cream.
40:49Just kidding.
40:50Your mom brought ice cream.
40:51I just brought the toppings.
40:53Mary said if she was given a choice to join our family
41:00versus Jen's family, she chose our family.
41:04I mean, obviously.
41:06Only because of you and in spite of me.
41:11I did say you're pretty dang awesome,
41:15and she'd be a rough sister wife.
41:18Oh, absolutely.
41:19I'd be the worst.
41:20Shawn's going to hear this and get his feelings hurt,
41:22by the way.
41:23Listen, I love Shawn, too.
41:24Yeah, you're going to have to prove it.
41:26But he's no Tim.
41:28I got married once, and I've been divorced twice.
41:33How many people can say that?
41:36She is.
41:38Wow.
41:39I'm an anomaly.
41:41Married once, divorced twice.
41:45Next time on Sister Wives.
41:50Today's the first day I'm going to see my wedding dress.
41:52I want to try it on.
41:53Yes.
41:54I had no idea how incredible it would feel
41:56to look at wedding dresses with my daughters.
41:58You guys ready?
41:59Yes.
42:00Oh, my goodness.
42:04I'm not just throwing this in the garbage.
42:07I'm going to, on purpose, ruin it.
42:11And he's out.
42:13Hey, let's go.
42:14Come on.
42:15I was hearing some feedback from family
42:17about the accusations being made against me.
42:20There's a jealousy and dislike that they have had toward Robin,
42:23especially Christine and Janelle.
42:25We were supposed to be a team working together.
42:27I feel like I've been gaslit like crazy.