Betting insider Nick joins! Curtis and Nick disagree on NY vs Boston. Are Boston fans spoiled? Brady > Belichick?
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00:00Uh with us now the host of you better you bet he is an odyssey sports wagering insider nick costos insider calls
00:07Presented by bet mgm check out all of the latest lines right now on the bet mgm app. Hello, nick
00:14What's going on guys? How we doing? You're in that area. I am
00:17Very close to it. Have you seen them? I have not but um in football season. I like in shawshank
00:22I don't really like leave my basement. But yeah, they're apparently close by. Um, I live in my own bubble
00:27Uh, so I don't pay attention to any of this stuff. I acknowledge that it's happening, but I can't do anything to stop it
00:32Uh, so I just go on living my life
00:34So i'm an i'm an ostrich my head's in the sand any neighbors in the cul-de-sac that have told you about it or?
00:40Any eyewitness accounts that you've experienced? I think the assumption that you're making is that I talk to my neighbors. I see
00:45Okay, you're that which I which which I do not do so. I mean, yeah, it's like a
00:50The thing is all the people that I talk to generous either like my family or people that love sports and we just talk
00:54About sports or like my daughter. Those are the two topics of conversation. So yes, like there are drones and maybe they're aliens
01:00Maybe they're not uh, I have no idea. Um, I think I would prefer like china or russia to alien
01:07Oh, wow, really?
01:08well
01:08Well, because alien is the unknown like you you kind of like know what you're getting into with humans alien is a like
01:15Yeah, we're if we're fighting russia or china
01:18We have home field advantage here in the united states
01:20If the aliens are here like we're playing a road game
01:22Even if we're on earth and I like to play home games
01:24Okay, I don't want to play road games but aliens they could be coming in peace like they could be
01:29Like yes, they could also be coming to if you ever see independence day
01:31They also could be coming to vaporize us. Do you want to take that risk?
01:34I don't want that. I don't want to be vaporized. I I also do not want to be vaporized
01:38Well, we'll never reach childhood's ends. I mean, there's some whacked out stuff out there, man
01:42Yeah signs is the is the most terrifying alien film. I think but they're so skinny. They're weak and they're weak water
01:48I know there's always something that they're that is they're breaking. You guys like horror movies, huh? I don't I don't
01:55I watch the patriots. That's enough horror movies for me now. So do it. Shut up, dude
02:01Shut up, man. I'm so sick of you spoiled boston sports fans. Oh, uh, the patriot horror movie
02:06Oh, what what you mean?
02:07Like like the amazing like uh, like the best movies of all times that you had for 20 years weren't enough
02:12All the superbowls weren't enough of god
02:15Oh my god, you guys you guys are sickening like it's i'm being serious like it's actually it's it's it's horrible
02:21It's horrible. You guys need to be more grateful
02:24Believe me. I am deeply grateful to tom. I I will I will I will pray to tom brady the rest of my life
02:29I I would just say
02:31a yankee fan
02:32that's rich like
02:33You make the playoffs every year and you want to fire the manager and you're ripping me because the patriots are the least talented team
02:39In the nfl. Well, it's it's it's different. We're the yankees and you're the we're the greatest franchise in the history of professional sport
02:44So it is different. I noticed that you didn't mention belichick there only only brady. Well, I mean one person left it all changed
02:51I just I mean just like that is that's the stupidest sports and we are so many stupid sports take the dumbest one
02:59Is well, the only reason belichick won is because brady was there as if he wasn't already the greatest defensive coordinator ever when he went
03:07Like the stupidest thing of all time. Oh, yeah, you're right
03:09Brady was lighting up the world when they won the first superbowl in 2001
03:17They were 5 and 13 and he was gonna get fired for his second job
03:22He was not gonna get after it was two seasons. He was gonna get fired in new england. Yeah
03:27I was at the game with his kids, uh, oh one against the chargers
03:30They were down 10 in the fourth quarter until tom saved his gig touchdown pass to jermaine wiggins
03:35The fact the fact that people don't want to credit belichick at all is like is disgusting to me
03:40You are you are you are thumbing your nose and you are spitting in the face of history
03:44It's a it's a it's a loser. It's a loser take if you're a giant fan
03:49And that's what you connected to this team
03:51So you're really butthurt about it because he won two superbowls with the giants being the dc
03:56It has it has nothing to do with the giants. It's he's he's objectively
04:00Is he is he the greatest coach ever because people are stupid. Oh, okay
04:03So everyone's dumb except you i'm not saying that but let me ask you something
04:07Everyone hold on. Hold on. Hold on because everyone wants to assume because everyone wants to assume
04:12Everyone wants to assume that people in power are smart
04:14Do you think all the people that you've worked with you think they're all smart?
04:17no, but I would say if
04:19You think you think arthur blank smart terry
04:21Font no smart
04:22The atlanta falcons available to be signed he would be signed you think so you think like the atlanta falcons were smart like they voted
04:28Belichick off the island hired raheem morris gave kirk cousins 100 million dollars that drafted a quarterback eighth overall
04:34Now they're six and seven smart organization. You think they should have hired bill
04:38What do you think they should have done?
04:40I think that they won six. Well, the chicago bears decided to keep matt eberflues instead of firing him and hiring bill belichick
04:46Was that the right move?
04:47I don't know we can we can go down the list here, buddy
04:51So why do you want to tell me tom's more important than bill? I'm with you brady's more important. I'm not gonna argue that
04:56But to diminish but to diminish bill to this degree is disgusting well
05:00You should be you should be embarrassed
05:03You should be embarrassed as a patriots fan
05:04You should be embarrassed that you're screaming at the top of your lungs
05:08You should have been on the apple docket that disgusting apple documentary. It's basically like, you know, there's an al jazeera here
05:14bill belichick
05:15Disgusting it's gross
05:17So why doesn't he have a job nick just answer that question simply?
05:21I think the reason why belichick doesn't have a job is because these owners and general managers don't want to cede complete power to bill
05:26I think that's the easy answer. So why doesn't he see complete power? Why doesn't he just coach?
05:30Well, I think that they probably think that bill there cast too big of a shadow over what they're going to do
05:35And people would rather like lose comfortably than win in a difficult fashion
05:39But you could also make the argument that bill wouldn't want to win uncomfortably in the nfl
05:43So he's going to college so he can control everything, correct? I think I think he wants to control everything
05:47I think that's probably right. Don't you think that don't you think that bill is a great coach?
05:50But when he's controlling everything, it's not quite as successful. I I do think that towards the end
05:54I think it is very fair to say that bill the gm let down bill the head coach
06:00Not for his entire tenure though, but towards the end that certainly did happen, right well i'm talking about
06:06I don't know who he was the owners want the credit it happened here. Nick. You're so right
06:12I mean, they want the credit for everything. It's human nature, right?
06:15You want the credit for things like literally there's an apple documentary where robert kraft is trying to claim all the credit for the patriot
06:21Like stop it. Let's stop it. Wait, wait, was it was it robert kraft?
06:24Who said he could win with any top 15 quarterback who said that again?
06:28Who did say that uh, bill belichick and ian o'connor's book. Well, I mean
06:32He did win with phil simms and jeff hosteller
06:38Okay, so let me ask you something out of uh in the history of the nfl playoffs
06:42How many of the top five or ten defensive game plans would you say were authored by bill bell?
06:46Oh, I would say most of them brilliant defensive game the game plan
06:49He had in the first team in 2018 was nothing short of spectacular, but a bad head coach
06:54Yeah without the quarterback. He's not as good of a head coach. Is bill belichick a bad coach? Yes or no without time?
06:58Oh, no, he's one of the great coaches in nfl history, of course
07:01All right, we got to get quick some some uh, we gotta see. I love how it's circled back to no actually he's the best
07:07Um speaking of the patriots, are you staying away from this one this weekend? No, no, we're in it
07:12Man, we're deep in it. Yeah, I love the patriots. Uh told wiki this yesterday, but thanks to wiki for coming on my show yesterday
07:18It's awesome. I didn't know he was on yes
07:20You know, it's a good show man. We have some good times. It's a good time parlay play boy
07:24Gave us like a 13 leg money line parlay
07:27It's a true i'm not making that up. It's true. Uh
07:29Point spread I think is a little out of whack here. Um, this was six and a half earlier in the week
07:34We bet it and we talked about it on the show on monday on my show you better you bet six
07:39I still think is a bet arizona's defense kind of like low key falling apart
07:42I'm bullish on drake may in this patriots offense
07:45Um, so plus six is a bet for me five and a half would not be six is a bet for me
07:49I like the over in the game also over 46
07:52I think this will get bet up as we approach kickoff and just one thing that i'm watching for in this game
07:57Post by rookie bumps is a thing that we talk about with a lot of players, right?
08:01Like especially like guys drafted in early rounds. You're looking for rookies to play better coming out of the buy
08:06I wonder if we start to see better play from jaylen polk in this game now
08:10Moving forward the rest of the season the final couple games coming out of the bye week
08:13I'm, not i'm not guaranteeing it, but they took him in the second round. He was awesome at washington
08:18He's really talented like if he could just put it together. I think the patriots have something in polk
08:23I'll be watching him closely in this game. Yeah costos for me the game of the year so far is going to be bill's lions
08:29Uh, where do you stand right now? Is it just a lions are at home?
08:32So I guess you take the lions type of deal
08:34Or kind of where are you at with this game seeing as it's also the highest total we've had all season
08:38Yeah, so it's not one of my favorite bets, but it's i'm gonna bet it because it's the biggest game of the week
08:43Uh, i'll take detroit to win the game
08:45um
08:45I think the point spread's fair lions favored by less than three
08:48If detroit had their full complement of defensive players, you can make a strong case
08:52The spread should be bigger than this
08:53But this this is basically intimates the two teams right now are equals
08:57With detroit as a two and a half point home favorite and uh, the two teams are equals
09:00Uh, I think that dan campbell and ben johnson will coach shawn mcdermott under the bus here
09:05While acknowledging that josh allen's the best player on the field. He is he's better than goff not an insult to goff
09:11Compliment to allen. I don't trust mcdermott in the big spots. I do trust dan campbell in the big spot
09:16I'll take the lions to win the game. Nick. Here's here's another good one 425
09:20I think I had picked the
09:22Steelers, there's a lot of dysfunction going on in philly right now between aj brown
09:29And jaylen hurts just the they're not on the same page
09:33Where would you lead me in this game?
09:36Well, you uh, the parlay playboy yesterday said he liked the pittsburgh steelers to win
09:40I would uh discourage the parlay playboy from making that pick. Oh boy
09:43We'll see if we'll see if george pickens gonna play this weekend
09:46Uh, I don't think the steelers can get away with this if if he doesn't play against this eagles defense and look like the hurts
09:52aj brown drama
09:54It's definitely real like brandon grams said basically that they're not friends anymore and then tried to walk it back
09:59Like they're probably not friends anymore. But look I mean any successful operation
10:02Look, do you you think I like all the people I work with?
10:05I hate some of them and I got and I got I got better something better to say
10:09I think a lot of them probably hate me
10:12But you know what like wait you show up and you be a professional and you try and win
10:16Like who cares about personal feelings eagles are better than the steelers. I like the eagles in the game
10:21Okay, anything else anybody else any uh, shime you got one more. Yeah, I got one more for you here. Uh, I
10:28Have taken every opportunity I can
10:31To bet against aaron rogers. However, I find myself in a conundrum
10:35Uh, because I also like you like write this out in advance. No, no, no
10:39Uh, however, I find myself in a connect you did. Is that the first time you've said that this week or no?
10:44Yeah, the first time i've said that this week. Yes, uh, because I also like to bet against mac jones
10:48Uh, what what what how should I approach this?
10:51Uh, jet's jaguars game as someone like yourself who bets on basically everything, you know what this is
10:55Uh, this is bill's revenge here against the team that he resigned of the hc as a day after being named the hc
11:00With the quarterback that he drafted unsuccessfully and I will say in the first round a couple years ago
11:05Uh jet shouldn't be three and a half point favorites on the road against anybody
11:08Jaguars plus three and a half with mac jones as the quarterback jaguars plus I have a long shot very quickly
11:14Uh costos, so I saw it this week, maybe it's wrong. I don't know if it was bet mgm, but mahomes is 36 to one
11:21to win the mvp
11:23I feel like if somehow they go four and oh down the stretch and he finally throws a bunch of touchdowns
11:28That's a pretty good, you know put down 20 bucks. That's a pretty big windfall
11:31So I I think it's a really interesting thought we talk about it a lot on the show curtis
11:36I think his problem is this year. There's a couple things so like they could go 16 in one
11:40I think in which case like andy reid could be a late charger for coach of the year
11:44Maybe chris jones would win defensive player of the year
11:47Mahomes is so far behind statistically right now
11:50And you kind of get the feel y'all kind of have to read the tea leaves a little bit, right?
11:54And I would encourage you guys or the listeners to kind of like ask yourself this question as well
11:57Doesn't it feel like this year despite the gaudy one loss record for the kansas city chiefs?
12:02That this is like the jesse pinkman thing from breaking bad
12:05Like they can't keep getting away with this like no one actually thinks the chiefs are good
12:09Everyone thinks the chiefs are getting lucky and mahomes isn't getting the credit this year
12:13So it's something curtis i've thought about like should I bet mahomes at this big price?
12:17I think he's so far behind right now
12:19I think only three guys can win josh allen saquon barkley and lamar jackson and there's a path for all three of them
12:26I don't think mahomes can get there because I think he's too far behind right now. Nick as always a pleasure
12:31You dismantled curtis and a lot of people are very happy about that
12:35Undress them before our very eyes
12:37Well, the thing that I don't understand is that curtis ended the whole thing by saying yeah, like you're right. He's awesome
12:43It's pretty simple called getting red at the end of his career
12:47He thought it was him and it was tom. He didn't accept that he won a power struggle and then the team fell off a cliff
12:54Yeah, but no, but no, but you you said I basically you basically said he gets like no credit for the superbowls that they won
13:00Well, he's never won anything. He's won a single playoff game without tom brady. That's a fact
13:04It's he he barely he barely coached without tom as he had five seasons in cleveland and he had five seasons here
13:1110 seasons it was that one season when he went 11 and five with mac
13:15They had seven wins fewer than the year before greg. Did you know that? Yes. I mean, well, yeah
13:19Yeah, I wonder why they won seven fewer games the year before maybe it's because they didn't have tom brady
13:24Right, so they had peyton manning went out and curtis painter went in and they sucked and everybody's like wow peyton manning
13:29So important that was a four game switch when brady got hurt. It was a seven game. Are you curtis curtis?
13:37I think your sports takes are stupid, but you're not stupid. You're clearly a smart guy. There's no way you believe that
13:44Oh, I believe it was every fiber. No, you can't. No, no, you don't
13:47Of course, i'm done nick. Listen, uh last time i'll talk to you before the holidays because are you really?
13:53Well, i'm working till wednesday, but they forced me to take time off here
13:56It's just part. It's just part of that new contract
13:59I mean we have flex time. You're you're you're an odyssey employee. You can take as many days as you want
14:03Not this time of year. I can't not this time of year. I can't uh, but happy holidays. Merry christmas
14:07We love having you on the show. These guys will talk to you next week and then i'll talk to you in the new year
14:13I gotta get back. That's
14:14Greg, I need your your agent's number, please
14:16Uh minimal sweats winning bets the absolute very best of luck greg. I love you. Merry christmas, buddy