Faiz Hameed Ke Maamla Par PTI Khamosh Kyun??? Rauf Hassan Ka Rad-e-Amal
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00:00And on that too, you saw that he says that you have ignored him, he said that there was no such incident,
00:09otherwise we have shared his details, his identification card, we want to go to his house together.
00:15At least he has the intention to do his activity so that he can ignore him on this matter.
00:21Look, Mr. Wasim, 12 martyrs have been confirmed.
00:26All the details about them have been collected.
00:29And the remaining missing persons, I will not go into their numbers, but there are a lot of them.
00:36We are double-triple checking them.
00:38They are being checked from one person to one house.
00:41I hope that in the next two or three days, we will publish these final lists with data.
00:48And we will also give them to the government officials.
00:53We just don't want any kind of mistake in this.
00:57Because the information is being collected from different sources.
01:00And these people are sitting in the government, that if we make even one mistake,
01:05then on the basis of that, they will ask the entire media to launch a campaign against us.
01:10So we, I am actually sharing this with you,
01:16that we will publish these lists after checking and counter-checking it from multiple sources.
01:21Absolutely right, sir.
01:23Sir, if you are talking about the judiciary, then let me ask you a simple question.
01:26I am talking about the superior judiciary at the moment, of course.
01:28Obviously, it was the judiciary of the past, which was headed by Mr. Faheed Ishaq.
01:32And Pakistan Jurisdiction said in clear words that we do not trust this individual at all.
01:37These are our cases, and we do not trust them at all.
01:40Now, obviously, there has been a change in leadership of the Supreme Court of Pakistan.
01:43Mr. Yaya Afridi is sitting.
01:44Do you have any confidence today, or are you disappointed with today's superior judiciary or today's Chief Justice?
01:51Look, there has been a transition.
01:53And along with the transition, you remember, I think it was in your program or some other program,
01:57I had welcomed the new Chief Justice.
01:59And he said that we hope that he will start providing justice according to the requirements of the law.
02:06Now, let's see.
02:07These big cases have been filed.
02:08But that is the Constitutional Bench.
02:10The way the Constitutional Bench works,
02:13you know that we have rejected the 26th Constitutional Amendment.
02:17But despite rejecting it, we have become a member of its Judicial Committee.
02:22Because that Judicial Committee has to appoint judges.
02:26And we felt, you know, in the Political Committee, we felt that it is important that the PTI,
02:31being the largest political party, should play its role.
02:33So, despite our reservations, we joined it.
02:36And our entire effort is to convince the judiciary to make decisions according to the law.
02:42These big cases that have been filed,
02:44I think when we come to their decisions,
02:47we do not want to create any doubts.
02:49But on the basis of those decisions,
02:51I think we will be able to make up our minds about the judiciary.
02:56You know, we will have a lead as to where the judiciary is going and how to make our decisions.
03:01So, whether it is the first court or the second,
03:03for now, you have to comment on it a little earlier.
03:05Okay.
03:06Sir, this civil disobedience, which is now a big announcement,
03:09you also said that if this new talk starts by the 14th,
03:11then civil disobedience will start from the 16th.
03:13Sir, how effective do you think this card will be?
03:16I mean, for example, you have said,
03:18you are a Pakistani resident, do not send remittances.
03:20Secondly, what will be its practical form in Pakistan?
03:23You will say, do not pay the bill.
03:24If you do not pay, they will deduct the bill, deduct the electricity.
03:27Then what?
03:28I mean, how will this practice put a dent on the government, put pressure?
03:34Mr. Waseem, the deadlines for this are being finalized.
03:38I think that by the end of this deadline,
03:42which is the 14th of December,
03:45by the 14th of December, I think the deadlines will be finalized.
03:50And God willing, I will be the first to share this with you.
03:55You are sure that it will be successful.
03:58It will not fail like the previous civil disobedience.
04:01No political party starts a movement
04:04that does not believe in its success.
04:07We feel the same.
04:08Yes, the apparatus that the state has,
04:11and the way they have demonstrated statehood on the 26th,
04:15after that anything can happen.
04:16These people will kill other people.
04:18When the requirements of the law are met,
04:21and when justice is not done,
04:23and when the people are allowed to make decisions according to their whims,
04:33then I think that the situation cannot be normal.
04:36The situation cannot be normalized.
04:38There cannot be political stability.
04:39So I think that if we are ready to negotiate with them,
04:44then they will also have to bring a very basic change in their attitude.
04:49So that it is clearly indicated that they also want political stability in the country
04:55and are ready to compromise for it.
04:57Has there been any recent contact with Mr. Maulana?
05:00Has there been any further action taken together?
05:02And again, the background of this question is that Mr. Maulana is clearly angry.
05:06His party thinks that he has been ditched.
05:08The government had promised to pass a bill.
05:10He is not accepting it.
05:11In fact, he has brought the Ulema in front of him.
05:14So is there any such thought in all this debate
05:17that we should talk to Mr. Maulana so that further action can be taken together?
05:21We have a constant contact with Mr. Maulana.
05:24He is in the Senate as well as in the National Assembly.
05:27We have sub-committees that operate.
05:30And through a consultative process, they talk to each other and then decide on matters.
05:36So that is going on.
05:38In addition, people keep meeting Mr. Maulana from time to time.
05:42We have a good relationship with them.
05:44I know that there is a problem with the Madrasas.
05:46In that, it is imperative that there is a modus
05:50on how the registration should be done.
05:53This matter is dependent on that.
05:55And you will remember that we had a position in our government as well.
05:58In 2019.
05:59Yes, it should be done.
06:01Registration should be done.
06:02This is very important.
06:03So I do not think that we will change our intention at that time.
06:08But we have had contacts with Mr. Maulana in this regard.
06:11And let's see how this matter will be handled in the future.
06:13So in this particular matter, your opinion is the same as it was in 2019,
06:16in the period of PTI, which is different from Mr. Maulana's opinion.
06:18On this one particular thing.
06:20As long as we do not change that opinion through a statement,
06:23the opinion remains the same.
06:24As long as it remains the same.
06:25Yes, it is the same as it was before.
06:27Sir, towards the end, this matter of Faiz Hamid Sahib is obviously a very big preface.
06:31Pakistan itself is telling that Mr. Maulana has entered the next phase.
06:35Field Court Marshal and four sheet frames.
06:38And I have seen that PTI is telling some people that he is a soldier of the army.
06:42But sir, now you cannot say this because you can disagree with it.
06:47But it is written in four sheets and it has been made public.
06:49That they understand that this has happened with a political party in Connavance.
06:52And obviously when it is a political party, then it is not about MKO Pakistan.
06:55It is about PTI.
06:56When they write that the subject is for political purposes,
06:58then obviously it is about pro-PTI.
07:00So what is the response of PTI to all this?
07:03Look, you are saying that it cannot be about MKO.
07:06You must know that, I do not know.
07:09You think it can be about MKO?
07:11Similarly, I do not know what you are talking about.
07:14Why should we try to interfere in something that does not concern us?
07:20The matter is an internal matter of the army.
07:24And they have instituted this case according to their rules.
07:28They will take it forward.
07:29When a finger will be raised on us at some stage,
07:33when a definitive statement will be made on us at some stage,
07:36then it will be a more appropriate time for us to respond.
07:39I do not know which political party you are talking about.
07:41Let it be clear first.
07:42Then the political party can answer.
07:43It can also be about UPMLN.
07:45Yes, that is right.
07:46You are saying that if a finger is raised on us,
07:48I should not raise my hand.
07:49Okay, fine.
07:51You have given an innocent answer.
07:54It is a very innocent answer.
07:56It was an innocent question.
07:58It was an innocent answer.
08:00An extremely innocent answer.
08:01Thank you very much.