👉 El analista político Gabriel Slavinsky habló del reciente discurso del presidente donde anunció un cambio en la dirección económica del país, prometiendo que los ciudadanos comenzarán a ver los frutos de sus esfuerzos.
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00:00Speaking of the President's speech at the House of Government,
00:04a speech with the entire Cabinet and some more people who were there,
00:09and also the exit to the balcony that we just saw with Dr. Junio Olivarola.
00:14A line, Pablito, and I'm going with Gabriel too.
00:17A government that joined and added one more line to its libertarian manual,
00:23an idea of a country that made a great effort
00:26and that from now on will start to see the fruits of the effort.
00:30It left behind the speech of, we will continue to suffer.
00:35It says that from now on we will be fine.
00:37Well, we'll have to see what happens during this year.
00:39The government plays everything,
00:41and it is likely that it will also begin to release a little bit of the wallet.
00:43He spoke of a deep sledgehammer, said the President, Gaby.
00:47Yes, yes, it seems to me that it is part of the usual speech.
00:51There are no big surprises.
00:52We can find some nuances,
00:54but the government proposes a narrative, a story built from the moment it assumes
01:00of absolute confrontation and political construction towards the internal.
01:05I think it speaks a lot to the core,
01:07also of course to those around it, let's call it the pro and some anti-Peronists.
01:13But it is consolidating there, it is not looking to generate national unity,
01:16what we were talking about before.
01:17It seems to me that this was a correct strategic diagnosis from the beginning,
01:21and so much that balances have been made in this last time,
01:24I think that the positioning that consolidated is that of outsider,
01:28that of different, that of not being caste, that of attacking the political caste.
01:32As much as later one begins to deepen and finds certain contradictions in that logic.
01:38So it gives me the feeling that the speeches that come,
01:41even the read ones, the staging,
01:43what they try to mark is the ratification of that positioning.
01:47And marked especially in three verbal times.
01:49The past was worse, the political leaders did it wrong,
01:54we in the present decided to make this effort, this suffering,
01:59because the future is hopeful.
02:01Well, the president spoke, for example, among other things,
02:04of getting out of the well, this said.
02:07Whether you like it or not, Argentina came out of the well in which the politicians sank us.
02:11And today, for the first time in decades, the sun of hope appears.
02:16Well, let's talk about this too.
02:19Are we getting out of the well, Gaby?
02:21There may be indicators that in some ways,
02:26after such a big adjustment, the biggest in the history of humanity,
02:30as my law says,
02:31give it some kind of construction to base itself on some data and indicators.
02:37One says, well, the macro is working based on the recipe proposed,
02:42that the inflation goes down, that the country's risk goes down,
02:46that the stability of the dollar goes down.
02:48So, I say, they have some indicators of the macro
02:51that would indicate that they are getting out of the well.
02:55And at least they base themselves on that.
02:56It is also true that the industry falls, unemployment falls, construction falls,
02:59there is more poverty, there is more indigence.
03:02Then you say, well, which country are we talking about?
03:04But also let me take the other phrase.
03:07There is a responsible in that cut that they have just marked.
03:11And the responsible is the political caste.
03:14He insists again from the campaign, the assumption, the first year of government,
03:18he insists on marking who are the responsible.
03:21Here it is no longer the previous government.
03:23Here it is no longer the inheritance received.
03:25It is the political caste.
03:26And it seems to me that this is something of the consolidation of the narrative
03:30that my law has used since its political birth.
03:34Now I'm going to ask you both what you think about the subject of,
03:38let's say, who did my law speak to more,
03:41those who voted for it or the opposition,
03:45including those who did not vote for it and were not convinced.
03:49He spoke of the miracle, right?
03:51He also spoke of the Argentine miracle and said this.
03:56In the whole world, Argentina is being talked about.
03:58There are even those who consider this whole process a true economic miracle,
04:03the Argentine miracle.
04:06It was an observation.
04:07When Menem ruled in the 90s,
04:09there was also talk of the Argentine miracle
04:11and how he had managed to stabilize the country.
04:14And that story didn't end very well.
04:16That's why the story doesn't start, right?
04:18When a government starts, it starts much later.
04:21This is a better government than Menem's.
04:24Because what...
04:24In a passage, precisely, of the phrase.
04:26What he suggests is that, unlike Menem's government,
04:29these structural reforms that my law is doing,
04:31he does them without fiscal deficit.
04:33On the other hand, during Menem, it was with fiscal deficit.
04:36And that's what ended up blowing up that model.
04:39Well, we'll have to see what happens and how this story goes.
04:43The truth, speaking of your previous question,
04:45for example, the industry accumulated a drop of 11.6%.
04:50Against the previous month, 0.8% drop too.
04:53Construction accumulated a 29% drop in 2024.
04:57He talks about the record adjustment.
04:58But it is also a record adjustment that the real economy made,
05:02the private economy, when we talk about construction,
05:04we are talking about companies and workers
05:07who lost their jobs or had to close.
05:10My law says that from now on, another story begins.
05:14Well, we'll have to see if it really starts.
05:16Today you don't see it.
05:18I remember that they had a free fall
05:20for many years, for the last two or three years.
05:23And especially, obviously, in the pandemic.
05:25But the pandemic is an exception.
05:26In the pandemic, yes.
05:27Then, in general, it recovered.
05:29We'll have to see month by month.
05:31What marked the strong fall,
05:32particularly from last year, was the drought.
05:36With agriculture, which has a very important weight
05:39in the Argentine economy, falling at record levels.
05:42Obviously, on average, everything ends up falling.
05:46It is also true that,
05:47making the inter-annual comparison of the Argentine economy,
05:51when one compares against that agriculture
05:53so bad that there was last year,
05:55every number is a little less worse.
05:57Therefore, at the general fall of the economy this year,
06:00we would have to add a few more points
06:02for this statistical trap of an agriculture
06:05that recovers compared to the previous year,
06:06which was terrible.
06:07Well, the previous year.
06:08But, Bob, we have to talk about the next year,
06:11which is what comes in twenty-odd days, nothing more,
06:14which is 2025, because it is an electoral year.
06:17Let's see what the president has to say.
06:19Next year is an electoral year.
06:22Unlike what politicians usually do,
06:25electoral years are dedicated
06:26to squandering the money of all Argentines,
06:29as if it were their own search for votes,
06:32we are going to do something different.
06:35It is unique in the history of modern democracies
06:38that a government begins the electoral year
06:40without an expansive fiscal and monetary policy,
06:43because that is precisely the logic of the past
06:46that has sunk us.
06:47We are not going to fall into this temptation
06:50that seduced the caste,
06:51because we are the future and the prosperity.
06:56Who did Milley speak to in the speech?
06:59To himself, to consolidate, and also to the opposition?
07:03I think Milley is smart
07:05in that he speaks specifically to the public
07:08who voted for him in the second round.
07:10He speaks to his 50, his 54.
07:13He does not tempt to seek national unity,
07:16consensus, the work to expand that base,
07:20because one can say, well,
07:21he voted for you in the 50 in a second round
07:23because one of the options disappeared,
07:25which in that case was the option of the pro.
07:27But I think he's smart
07:28in speaking to that 50,
07:29understanding that he's not going to penetrate
07:31much more than that caudal.
07:33So what he does is consolidate the core of the union.
07:35So he gives it all the time,
07:36feeds a speech against the caste.
07:40We are the only ones who are going to make this revolution,
07:43we are going to make it strong,
07:44we are going to make it fast.
07:46It is the only government that does not do
07:49electoral or political calculation.
07:52It establishes a whole language
07:54with certain data and a narrative construction
07:58in terms of the search for that logic
08:01of speaking to those 50.
08:02Is that an electoral strategy?
08:05Well, it gives the feeling that at the moment it is,
08:08that it has an electoral imprint of saying,
08:11look, we are not going to lose our identity,
08:13we are going to stand firm
08:16in the economic policy, I don't know, orthodox,
08:19and against those who did us so much harm in the past
08:22as Peronism will be.
08:23Therefore, what would have to happen in 2025?
08:27That we are the only alternative that is going to fight
08:29the Peronism of Cristina that she assumes today.
08:32Therefore, polarization, division in two,
08:34that makes the options of the media,
08:36in this case, especially radicalism and the pro,
08:39remain in an absolutely uncomfortable position
08:42where they have no alternative
08:43than to fall into advanced freedom.
08:45I say,
08:48people, Puel said in two or three passages of his speech,
08:54and I thanked people for the effort,
08:56I also valued what he has suffered,
09:01and he also said, I told them what was going to happen,
09:04and it happened, and they banked it,
09:06he didn't say it with that word, he said, they banked it.
09:09I see in the street that there is, obviously,
09:11there is a lot of contraction, people do not reach it,
09:14there is debt even in the consortiums,
09:16what we are seeing, a lot to fix,
09:20but it's like people, or many, what they say is,
09:24well, let's see, I'm going to make the effort again,
09:26and you tell me, but if it reaches you, it does not reach me,
09:29but inflation has gone down.
09:31Now, I don't know about the prices,
09:32that this is a reality, the gondolas or whatever,
09:35but people see something that has changed for the better.
09:38Did you see when you signed a contract?
09:40Yes.
09:40The contract has some very explicit clauses,
09:44but the spirit of the contract,
09:47I think, is what fulfills me.
09:48Then he says, well, the most important clauses,
09:511, 2 and 3, has been fulfilled by the public order,
09:55inflation, taking care of the important and not the secondary,
09:59it seems that a large majority of people,
10:03or those who approve it, would say yes,
10:06that it has fulfilled that spirit of the contract.
10:08And the small letter, well, that the ajuste is paid by the caste,
10:12well, I don't think the caste paid it,
10:13it was paid by the retirees, the university, the middle class,
10:16well, then, but it's fine,
10:18but the truth is that he did not lie to us in general,
10:20it's true, maybe he manipulated us a little in this,
10:22well, but it's not so little,
10:23it's like a talk that is being given,
10:25but the central spirit of the contract
10:28and of the important things that, for the discourse of my law,
10:31had not been fulfilled before in Argentina,
10:33a state getting into irrelevant things,
10:36according to the libertarian discourse,
10:38a state that did certain things,
10:41but did not take care of the economy,
10:42then it seems to me that that spirit is the one that has fulfilled.
10:45When you have reduced things, now I'm going, Pablo,
10:47when you have reduced things,
10:48he has shown you, he says, we save so much,
10:52it was spent on this,
10:53where we do not know where this money was going to stop,
10:56where this was going to stop,
10:57where this expense that they were making was going to go,
10:59this that we discovered,
11:01then they are discovering a lot of things,
11:03in money that goes a little bit, a little bit, a little bit,
11:06it makes you a whole giant package of a lot of money too.
11:09And apart from that, he builds narratively,
11:10these signals that he builds,
11:13because, well, he says, well, but it is insignificant
11:15that the Inca spent on the general budget,
11:18but they are signals that the course is to really adjust the belt,
11:23which is what I would call the adjustment of politics,
11:26which was also paid by the citizens.
11:28Yes, there is a phrase that resonates in all houses, I think,
11:34in those who want it and those who do not want it,
11:36there is no money,
11:37you see when they ask you for your children or someone,
11:39there is no money,
11:41and this is the reality, there is no money,
11:43and there was no money and hopefully there will be more money.
11:47Yes, that phrase I think resonates for two reasons,
11:49one is because one of the great skills that the president has
11:52is a discursive ability to install
11:54and gain media repercussion and digital conversation.
11:58There are many times that some criticize it
12:00because it is not understood if the data it emits,
12:03we were just talking about precise data on the economy,
12:05are real, reliable,
12:07I think that transcends that discussion, Miley.
12:09He says, our positioning is here,
12:11let's install, you see that there is a lot of talk in governments
12:14that want to install certain issues,
12:16I think that he, apart from trying,
12:18for a long time he achieves it.
12:19Let's see, Ibarra Ayar Goloski is with us,
12:22I don't remember that in the speech he mentioned the issue of retirees,
12:26yesterday not, right?
12:27They expected him to say something, right?
12:28Yes, the truth is that it is a very complex situation,
12:31that of the retirees,
12:32there are some measures that unfortunately,
12:33well, we know them in relation to medicines, for example,
12:36that well, people are very worried,
12:39so no, no, the issue was not mentioned,
12:42the truth is that no, surprisingly.
12:45And why do you think he didn't mention it?
12:48The truth is that I don't want to anticipate either,
12:50because measures are being taken in relation to retirees,
12:54in many cases reducing the expense inherent to this,
12:58such as the definitive suspension of credits,
13:01or the reduction of medication,
13:03with which I don't know what the address is,
13:05but well, this is the current scenario, right?