En los lagos artificiales de Palermo, un equipo de buzos profesionales y la Prefectura están llevando a cabo una operación de búsqueda. Los lagos, que no están conectados a ningún afluente, presentan desafíos únicos para el equipo. La operación se está desarrollando en uno de los lagos más grandes de Buenos Aires, abarcando más de 90 mil metros cuadrados.
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00:00to the professional divers, who are the ones who are working.
00:03Let's make it clear that I'm not a diver, I'm a sailor.
00:06And that gives you a certain experience of listening to the professionals.
00:13Well, since you are in contact with them regularly, I thought of you.
00:16Because I say, is there apartheid?
00:18Or the only way, there will be no other, which is to continue looking for men.
00:22Here you have a problem. I'm surprised it's not there yet.
00:25Maybe it is and the camera is not showing it.
00:27It's not the called prefecture.
00:29They are really the ones who have a professional rescue and diving corps.
00:36The firefighters obviously know how to do it.
00:39But the prefecture is a thing of every day.
00:42Coincidentally training in this type of task.
00:45What do we have here?
00:46The lakes of Panama, as you know, are artificial lakes.
00:49They are not connected like where they were looking for Aloan, for example.
00:54It is a lagoon that connects with Panama.
00:57This confined water has no tidal effects.
01:01There is no rising or setting here.
01:03It is a huge swimming pool made of a well with water.
01:08Excuse me, Fernando.
01:10The well, the bottom, is it cement soil?
01:14What is this bottom?
01:15No, no, no, it's totally natural, it's soil.
01:18It's soil.
01:19Yes.
01:21This water is dirty, there is no visibility.
01:28The visibility is zero.
01:30That's why you see that divers save themselves with a kind of sticks that are called pitchers.
01:35Because they have to go touching to find the body.
01:40The bodies are usually when one perishes drowned.
01:45There are two phases.
01:48In the first phase, the body goes to the bottom until it begins to release gases,
01:52the body is inflated and normally emerges, as they say, between 24 and 48 hours.
01:58So we are in this first stage where if there is a body, the body has to be sunk in the bottom.
02:03And it is sunk.
02:04It is very difficult for a body that has just died, let's say, to be on the surface.
02:11And is there some kind of apparatus, scanner, something that can detect a body?
02:16Nowadays, just as there are aerial drones, there are submersible drones.
02:23But for this case, as I explain to you, first that the depth is low,
02:27second that there is no visibility.
02:29So here what you have to do is craftsmanship.
02:32It is to look for it and the dive is submerged, it is three meters,
02:37obviously that in a marine course we talk about much more depth.
02:43In this case, although the depth is low, the visibility is zero.
02:46Now, it is also true, do not forget, that they saw him enter this gentleman,
02:52but no one saw him leave, which also raises a doubt.
02:55Maybe he came out and no one saw him or not.
03:00These waters are to drink this water.
03:03I am obviously not a doctor, I do not know if it is lethal in a very immediate way,
03:09but surely it is not, but it is highly contaminated water.
03:15Now, Fernando, you know that we were also just observing that he left his clothes on the shore,
03:22that is, he left his shoes, there were some latex gloves,
03:25we have to see if they are his, he left a camper, there we are more or less seeing,
03:30it is a black shoe, also a camper, and a backpack.
03:37Therefore, if he left, he has to be naked walking around the place.
03:42Let's see, here you can, you are obviously specialists in this type of conjecture,
03:50we can talk about a person who wanted to commit suicide,
03:53a person who is not in his right mind and said,
03:55I'm going to swim and I'm going out, and he didn't come out, we don't know, no, no, no, that escapes.
04:00It seems something more similar to the second that you say.
04:02Yes, yes, because no one who goes to suicide takes care of the detail of taking off his clothes.
04:06Of course, then, being like that, anyone in his right mind,
04:13does not think about getting into the water, it is not the most common thing.
04:17Sometimes you see a boy in summer, but it is not even a day of so much heat to justify this.
04:24Exactly, exactly.
04:25Something like that.
04:26So, I bring you a small correction with the effect of adding to this chronicle.
04:33Very good.
04:34You were talking a while ago about tactical divers.
04:37The tactical divers are the divers who do war actions, for example,
04:41put mines or sabotage an enemy ship.
04:45These divers are rescue divers.
04:48Good.
04:49That is, they specialize.
04:51Their training is intended.
04:54The 24 hours of the day when they are not operating in a real event.
04:57Excellent and opportune.
04:59We thank you for the clarification, because for those who know the subject and hear that we
05:02describe it in a wrong way, it is very good.
05:06But the tactical diver is the one who puts an explosive under the helmet of the enemy ship.
05:12That is a tactical diver.
05:14Tactical in the military term is the one who is operating in the battlefield.
05:20Carrying a rifle or doing a submerged task.
05:24This task, Fernando, which they are doing now, and we thank you from your knowledge
05:28that you are collaborating with us.
05:30You already suggested that it would be convenient to call the prefecture divers,
05:34who have a lot of experience and great training capacity on this subject.
05:38This, thinking ahead and if it extends, even to call them too.
05:44Does it have the limiter of sunlight?
05:47Can it be continued during the night?
05:49If the time of the night comes, is the search suspended or not suspended?
05:53I would say that in this case, as the visibility below is zero,
05:58that is, below there is no light.
06:00It is indistinct.
06:01You can't see anything, that is, they have to do it on the spot.
06:05Maybe they keep doing it.
06:09Unlike a person who gets lost in a river that has, as I said before,
06:14current, then you have to look for it.
06:16From where it falls, you go down, right?
06:18Because the current is going to drag you.
06:21If you fall in the Paraná, at the height of Rosario,
06:23you are not going to look for the side of Santa Fe, you are going to look for the side of Buenos Aires.
06:26Because the current of the river comes to the side of the Río de la Plata.
06:31The Paraná is a flood of the Río de la Plata.
06:34In this case, as that does not exist,
06:36the body is very likely that where it fell, it stayed.
06:40No, no, it's not dragged or moved or anything like that.
06:45It should be one thing if the poor man is in the bottom of the lake,
06:50more than knowing where he got in,
06:53it should not be a job that requires a lot of hours.
06:57Yes, we said that ...
06:59Of course, because there are records where it has taken days,
07:02and where I tell people, too, that it is not from Buenos Aires.
07:05There have been very resonant searches.
07:07I remember one that I covered as a chronicler back in 98, 2000.
07:11A boy who was called Maximiliano,
07:13he had started to joke, to swim.
07:16The friends themselves saw him come in and did not see him leave.
07:19There was that until the lake began to drain.
07:22When the decision is made,
07:24I tell you that it does not go down more than 10 centimeters per hour.
07:29It is a huge mass of water that must be drained,
07:33obviously, to the Río de la Plata,
07:35or take the water with you.
07:37You can't throw the water on the street.
07:39All this time that there is talk of the Lohan case,
07:41of emptying lagoons and others,
07:43it is not easy, because although you made it clear to us
07:45that there is no communication with an affluent here,
07:48but although it is a well with water,
07:50it is a well with very large water.
07:52No, of course not.
07:54One would think that if they arrive,
07:58if they arrive with a dosage of buses from the prefecture
08:01to do the job,
08:03they should have a relatively fast solution.
08:06Maybe yes, it takes a couple of days.
08:08The serious thing here is that you are not sure.
08:12As you say, the man left his clothes.
08:14One can pretend that he is there.
08:16Now, if he spends a day, two days, three days,
08:18and they don't find him,
08:20it will be complicated to close this story.
08:22Of course. Now look, Fernando,
08:24this happens at 1 pm.
08:28The witnesses observe and call 911.
08:31The buses have been working since 2 pm.
08:34That is, the search is specifically two and a half hours.
08:37As we said, and as Fernando Morales just said,
08:40it is very likely that the body,
08:43in case there is a body,
08:45because it drowned or had a heart problem,
08:47or whatever, or got tangled,
08:49it has to be in this area very delimited by the buoy,
08:52because look,
08:54this is where the witnesses mark
08:56and where the buses are working at this time,
08:58which are not tactical, as they explained to us earlier,
09:00which are rescue buses.
09:02This is the area, beyond the fact that
09:04there is another boat arriving at the islet.
09:07I hope this whole story ends
09:09if in a while we get the information,
09:11we give the urgent,
09:13and a video camera appears
09:15taking him down some street,
09:17next door,
09:19on Figueroa Alcorta Avenue,
09:21on Libertador Avenue.
09:23I hope that is the outcome for now.
09:25The tension and concern is that they are looking for underwater.
09:28I will tell you something else
09:30regarding the administrative management of the Palermo Lakes.
09:33It is a very particular water mirror,
09:35because in our country,
09:37the maritime, river and coast authority
09:39is the Naval Prefecture.
09:41And you do not usually see
09:43the Naval Prefecture,
09:45because this is a municipal park,
09:47it has a very special treatment.
09:49But I want to think
09:51that the authorities of the city government
09:53have asked,
09:55or if they did not, they should do it,
09:57because as good as our firefighters
09:59from the city of Buenos Aires are,
10:01the firefighter from the city of Buenos Aires
10:03has an event like this,
10:05the one before this, maybe.
10:07Actually, it happened two months ago,
10:09but they did not have to intervene
10:11the firefighters,
10:13because they rescued a boy who was...
10:15Of course, I remember.
10:17But I think that if they are not there,
10:19and maybe they are using the means,
10:21the truth is that I can not distinguish.
10:23Maybe they are,
10:25and they are not with a GOMON of the prefecture,
10:27because it is easier to arrive by truck
10:29and use the aquatic means
10:31of the firefighters who are already there.
10:33And maybe one does not distinguish
10:35if in the diving uniform
10:37they have the shield of the prefecture.
10:39But it would be the ideal,
10:41the most suitable,
10:43and what will ensure them
10:45a faster success in the task.
10:47Hopefully, it can also be added
10:49and give a resolution to this,
10:51because anyone has been the motivation
10:53to bring this person into the water.
10:55Hopefully we can give the news
10:57that they have found it.
10:59I think, and to finish,
11:01to give a service to the people,
11:03if this is not the work of a mind
11:05that unfortunately can have a mishap,
11:07make the population aware
11:09that it is not a joke
11:11to get into a lake of this type,
11:13it is not a joke,
11:15because there are a lot of things
11:17below that can make one get hooked.
11:19What is it?
11:21Is it the flora of the place,
11:23these algae that are going to reproduce?
11:25Yes, there are all kinds of elements
11:27that sometimes have been thrown away.
11:29There is some remains of some boat
11:31of these little ones
11:33that has gone ashore.
11:35Many years ago it was a memory
11:37that they had done a cleaning
11:39of the lake.
11:41It is not the most common thing.
11:43Fernando, what you say is that
11:45entering the lake is dangerous,
11:47not only because there are no lifeguards,
11:49because it is forbidden to bathe,
11:51because the water is contaminated,
11:53but here the question
11:55of the vegetation in the water
11:57can cause you to get hooked
11:59if you can't go to the surface.
12:01It also depends on the ability
12:03you have.
12:05To give me the title of sailor,
12:07they made me throw a pool
12:09with three degrees of temperature
12:11and wind.
12:13All simulated in a simulator,
12:15but I would not think
12:17to go swimming
12:19to a vacation spot
12:21in the water with three degrees of temperature.
12:23I would not think to do it
12:25because it is an exercise.
12:27To get into the dirty water
12:29the least you're going to get
12:31is an infection,
12:33enterocolitis, some plague.
12:35It is water that is literally rotten.
12:37Yes, because it is stagnant.
12:39Your clarification is very opportune.
12:41Fernando, we really appreciate
12:43that you do it, because a summer season
12:45is coming.
12:47There will be days that are not today.
12:49Because it is 24.5 degrees
12:51at the time of more temperature.
12:53Today is the peak at this time.
12:55It will not be more temperature than this.
12:57It is a lot of water volume.
12:59It can be low temperature.
13:01Another issue will be when we already have
13:03long consecutive days of a lot of heat.
13:05And there, when we have those 30-odd,
13:0740 unbearable,
13:09that we are going to have,
13:11it is a temptation in these places.
13:13I also spent the weekend walking in the river.
13:15All the coast of San Isidro,
13:17they control it.
13:19But it is never missing when those temperatures arrive,
13:21that they get in and get in with boys.
13:23Beware that it is treacherous.
13:25Beware that one does not know what is below.
13:27Beware that sometimes the ground also makes you sopapa.
13:29So be very careful.
13:31It is not a pill that I throw,
13:33I refresh myself and I go out.
13:35Look at the image that Javier Mozo is bringing us.
13:37The dive.
13:39Just a few steps,
13:41and the water is reaching the neck.
13:43Let's see, Javier Mozo is calling us.
13:45Thank you, Fernando.
13:47Let's say goodbye and thank you.
13:49I send you a big hug.
13:51Let's go live with Javier Mozo.
13:53The divers are still advancing.
13:55Go ahead.
13:57Yes, they ran to the buoy,
13:59to that yellow tank.
14:01Look, a diver is swimming
14:03from the shore to that place.
14:05There are two more divers,
14:07two rescue divers, three divers at this time,
14:09but another one is approaching
14:11from the left sector, also from the shore.
14:13This is one of the largest lakes
14:15in the city of Buenos Aires.
14:17There are nine apples, nine hectares.
14:19More than 90,000 square meters
14:21this artificial water mirror
14:23here in the northern area of the federal capital.
14:25We see the kayak
14:27and behind that kayak
14:29and below,
14:31in the water,
14:33that is,
14:35down, rather, on the surface,
14:37there are divers.
14:39They were just with some ropes.
14:41There were some movements.
14:43There are two on the left sector,
14:45at the height of the bikes,
14:47which are on the shore,
14:49plus at least one or two
14:51above the kayak.
14:53There are two people
14:55and
14:57under the water
14:59and also covered
15:01by the buoy,
15:03that yellow tank that is floating there,
15:05there are divers.
15:07We are seeing
15:09because the movement
15:11just occurred
15:13in this last minute.
15:15What did we see?
15:17The rescue boat,
15:19the semi-rigid,
15:21came here to the shore,
15:23went to a work table that there is,
15:25because there are like grids,
15:27the sector has been divided.
15:29Look, I see
15:31behind ...
15:33Let's see, Valen, do you see there
15:35behind the yellow tank?
15:37Something? I see something there.
15:39You don't see anything?
15:41No, no, no.
15:43Look, behind the tank, or is it the row?
15:45It is the row.
15:47It is the row that is next to the tank,
15:49but they have positioned themselves there.
15:51Between the kayak, of course.
15:53They are there.
15:55There is a diver below the water.
15:57There is a diver below.
15:59Exactly, there is a diver below,
16:01you are telling me, Pablito,
16:03and Valen is telling me,
16:05plus the other two
16:07rescue crews,
16:09who have stayed there apart,
16:11they have not joined now,
16:13but at one point
16:15you can see them on the shore.
16:17You can see here about 3 or 4
16:19biciscafos on the shore,
16:21among these biciscafos,
16:23and the boat, you can see one that is pointing there,
16:25with the water on the waist,
16:27and you can see another
16:29with the tank,
16:31with the yellow tank,
16:33pointing inwards,
16:35towards where the kayak is
16:37at this moment,
16:39still.
16:41We intuit that, doing the tracking,
16:43doing the search,
16:45as the specialist you were interviewing
16:47just commented,
16:49we insist again, it is not a small lake,
16:51guys, it is 9 apples,
16:53it is more than 90,000 square meters.
16:55It is 9 hectares
16:57destined for an artificial lake.
16:59I want to be a teacher in that sense,
17:01while we continue with a certain tension
17:03and expectation, this image,
17:05the one we are having now,
17:07because evidently there is a marked place,
17:09there is a place where they are working,
17:11these two who are on top of the kayak,
17:13they will see every now and then,
17:15between the yellow barrel that floats
17:17and those bubbles that are from the rescue diver
17:19who is working.
17:21There is a bottle floating,
17:23and why are they there, Boi?
17:25Because this barrel, this barrel,
17:27has a hook.
17:29It can also hook you,
17:31it goes to the redundancy,
17:33it grabs you,
17:35look, it moves,
17:37there the diver is working under the barrel.
17:39Javier Hermoso marked it for us,
17:41excellent work, also our cameraman.
17:43The bubbles that every now and then
17:45are made in the water,
17:47are from the diver who is working.
17:49Evidently there is an area,
17:51an exact point on which they have
17:53some degree of expectation.
17:55The task is also very artisanal,
17:57they are kind of chatting colloquially,
17:59sometimes even smiling.
18:01The work is very extenuating,
18:03it is artisanal,
18:05they are doing it,
18:07they are also recharging the tubes,
18:09because there one would say,
18:11hey, why don't they throw everything
18:13that is in the water?
18:15Well, you have to go up the task
18:17until reinforcements arrive,
18:19and I think that in the next few hours
18:21extra staff will also be called
18:23because this seems to me to go for a long time
18:25One more thing, Javi,
18:27that you mark well,
18:29when people from the interior,
18:31we say, let's go for a walk
18:33to the forests of Palermo,
18:35or to the lakes of Palermo,
18:37we speak in plural for the lakes,
18:39because there are four lakes,
18:41of which we have one,
18:43which is this one, the Regatas,
18:45we have the Rosedal,
18:47the Planetario,
18:49and the Lake Vittorio Campo.
18:51Those four artificial lakes
18:53that you say,
18:55so that on February 3 we go
18:57to the lakes of Palermo.
18:59But the Regatas, as you point out well,
19:01is the largest in extension
19:03and volume of water,
19:05you just said it,
19:0792,000 cubic meters,
19:09and the other issue,
19:11they also tell me at the depth level,
19:13be careful that in some sector,
19:15they are also here giving me the data,
19:17it has an average of 2-3 meters,
19:19but in some places
19:21it is not, I was going to say,
19:23a mark, it is not the ball of the ONA.
19:27And even at this moment,
19:29if you can make a foreground
19:31to the surface,
19:35the water is moving a lot,
19:39the water is moving a lot
19:41on the surface of the lake,
19:43I don't get out of my amazement
19:45of the fish that jump,
19:47there you run to the other sector
19:49of this yellow buoy,
19:51the kayak runs,
19:53there the diver dives again,
19:55he just dived,
19:57sorry,
19:59and you see
20:01the two companions above,
20:03there is one,
20:05the one in front with a rope,
20:07which is the one that guides
20:09and from which that rope
20:11is grabbed,
20:13the diver who at this moment
20:15is under the water,
20:17everything is very stealthy,
20:19the other companions,
20:21there is one in the water
20:23and the others on the shore,
20:25look more to the left,
20:27they are observing absolutely
20:29everything their companions are doing
20:31at about 8 meters,
20:3310 meters, not much more,
20:35everything is now
20:39being done between
20:41that yellow tank
20:43and the red buoy that will be
20:45the kayak at about 8,
20:4710 meters, not much more.