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00:00All right, Cam, because you brought this up, I will put the Heisman odds up because you
00:07mentioned something to me during the break.
00:09So I will throw this board up here.
00:10There it is.
00:11So Travis Hunter has now opened up in minus money territory there.
00:16So he's minus 330, Gente's plus 350, Cam Ward's 14, Gabriel's 25.
00:22Now Curtis Rourke's 30.
00:23You mentioned something to me and then I said, what's Rourke's number if somehow, someway
00:27Indiana beats Ohio State this week?
00:29I don't think you, what's the number, Cam?
00:31What do you think the number is if he's been?
00:33I said 10 and you said what?
00:35Between eight and 15.
00:36So we're reading each other's.
00:37We're basically in the same zone.
00:39Here's the deal.
00:40Because if Travis Hunter could lose this week in Colorado, like, but the thing is he's
00:44so damn good, like, is it his fault?
00:47But it's a team game.
00:48But I'm telling you, if you were to make one crazy investment on this board, your work
00:53makes the most sense.
00:55Here's the problem, Cam.
00:56And this is where you get into a very slippery slope with this award.
01:00In the past 25 years, they have turned this award into an MVP award.
01:05It's not what it's supposed to be.
01:06It's supposed to be the best player in college football, which I think Travis Hunter has
01:11a very good case.
01:13You could say, I think maybe he does have the case to be the best player in college
01:16football this year with what he does on both sides of the ball.
01:19But why are we now, out of nowhere, going away from the rules?
01:23Because like you said, let's say Colorado loses to Kansas this week.
01:27Let's say Colorado somehow loses their last game and don't make the Big 12 title game.
01:31Shouldn't he get docked the way that Cam Ward gets docked for when Miami lost last week?
01:38Or that Dylan Gabriel gets docked for Oregon not playing well and being 16-13, being Wisconsin?
01:44Because the quarterbacks, Cam, get docked if their team doesn't win and doesn't play
01:48well.
01:49It's just fact.
01:50And I've always said it shouldn't be that way.
01:53This is the best player in college football.
01:54That's what the award is.
01:56They've turned it into an MVP award.
01:58And if it is an MVP award, then it also has to matter for the guy who's not a quarterback.
02:03And if you're right, and I don't know if they're going to lose this week, but if they do, then
02:07you've got to dock them like you dock the quarterbacks.
02:09That's what you've turned this award into, right?
02:12That's how it should be.
02:13They won't.
02:14But you know, Carver.
02:15I know they won't.
02:16You were on top of this stuff.
02:17But they should.
02:18And it's not right.
02:19But I'm just saying.
02:20That's why I really, really, really want to take a shot at work at 30.
02:23That I could do the smartest thing in the world that they win, but I won't.
02:25I'm still not going to win.
02:26Even if he's the second choice, Gente running back.
02:30He's been special this year for Boise State.
02:32But this is the whole thing, man.
02:34It's the color.
02:35It's just it bothers me when the hell is Indiana football.
02:39These guys are undefeated.
02:40What do you want from them?
02:42Well, it's different if they you're right.
02:44If they win this week, it makes it a different conversation.
02:46If Miami wins their last two weeks and Ward finishes 11 and one and then wins the ACC
02:51title on top of that.
02:53Why?
02:54Cam Ward, if Miami wins the ACC and Colorado loses in the next couple of weeks.
03:02Ward's going to be back in the mix, Cam, and he's dropped down to 14 to one.
03:06He's going to be back in the mix if that happens, because they have turned this into more than
03:10just the best player in college football, because it would be Hunter and Gente by a
03:14mile if it was just that.
03:16But it's not.
03:17And that's why the quarterbacks of teams that win and win their conferences and make the
03:21playoffs get more juice than anyone else.
03:24And that's why Ward is still alive there, too.
03:27Ward is still alive.
03:28Yeah, he's alive.
03:29He's alive.
03:30I just think.
03:31And they get punished more because I don't think it was Ward's fault that they lost to
03:35Georgia Tech two weeks ago.
03:36I agree.
03:37I don't.
03:38I don't think it was Ward's fault.
03:39I agree.
03:40Yes.
03:41The way they treat his quarterback.
03:42It's ridiculous.
03:43He still throws for 350 and four touchdowns every week.
03:45What?
03:46They lost the game.
03:48And they're shocked.
03:49So that means you have to apply that to the other guys that are at the top now, the guys
03:52that aren't quarterbacks.
03:53You have to apply it to them, too.
03:55You can't change the meaning of the award year by year to make.
03:59You have now made it an MVP award, not the best player in college football.
04:03That's what they've done, unfortunately.
04:04And they're going to have to live like that moving forward.