Bushra Bibi Ki Audio Zair-e Gardish. PTI Ke Ahem Ijlas Se 10 Araken Ghair Hazir. Kahani Kya Hai? ?
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00:00A few moments ago, she was roaming around on social media
00:03with the audio of Bushra Bibi Sahiba, a 10-minute long audio
00:09in which she was talking to party leaders and giving instructions.
00:12Regardless of what she said,
00:13the fact that she was recorded and then made public
00:18is not enough to worry you.
00:20Obviously, there are a lot of close-knit people there.
00:22So, does this mean that there is no compromise from within
00:25that they are recording and then making public information?
00:27Does this worry you?
00:30As far as the audio is concerned,
00:33first of all, I haven't even heard about it.
00:36And I don't know anything about it.
00:38Yes, this happened a few hours ago.
00:39One and a half hours ago.
00:41Yes, it must have happened.
00:43Something must have happened.
00:44But I don't have any personal information about it.
00:48And I wasn't there either.
00:49Secondly, if it is there,
00:52then you know the state of technology
00:55and how it can be manipulated.
00:58But if it is their original audio,
01:01then without verifying it,
01:02one can't be sure that it is their voice.
01:05Secondly,
01:07if such things are leaked in the parties
01:12or something is made public,
01:15if it is something illegal,
01:16something immoral,
01:17something illegal,
01:18then it can be discussed.
01:20But if, for example,
01:21there are instructions or something is being said
01:23and it is being done in a frank manner,
01:24then I don't think there is anything to object to it
01:27or there is nothing to worry about it.
01:28There should be a factor in it.
01:31Interestingly, it is exactly the same content
01:34that was shared in the newspapers today morning.
01:36Exactly the same.
01:37Bushra Sahiba said that
01:38every person should take 5000-10,000.
01:41Khan Sahab said that
01:42everyone should make videos as evidence.
01:45And the one who doesn't make videos
01:46will not be the next ticket holder of PTI
01:49whether it is 25 years old or 30 years old.
01:53You must be in Idlas.
01:54You tell me, what is this discussion about?
01:57As far as this content is concerned,
02:01many leaders of PTI,
02:05if I can speak as a representative of PTI,
02:10then I have also done that
02:12there are instructions from Khan Sahab
02:13that every MNA, every MPA,
02:16every party official and ticket holder,
02:18all our leading people,
02:21they will bring people from their areas in a full way
02:24and will bring in thousands of people.
02:27Maximum mobilization will be done.
02:29And they will come to Islamabad
02:30with the intention that
02:31they have to stay here
02:32until these demands are fulfilled.
02:34So, in my opinion,
02:35there is nothing wrong in this
02:38or there is nothing that
02:40I think we are not aware of.
02:43However, it is obvious
02:45that leadership sets a benchmark.
02:47It sets a required number or standard.
02:51But later on the ground,
02:53the workers try to achieve those goals.
02:56It is not necessary that
02:58if the leader says something,
03:02the workers will violate it
03:06or if they are not able to achieve that goal in that way,
03:09then by God's grace,
03:10they have disobeyed or violated the party discipline.
03:14But anyway, this is a benchmark
03:16to keep people motivated
03:17and to use maximum potential from them.
03:21Meanwhile, sir,
03:22let me update you that
03:23Mr. Shaukat Yusufzai has officially confirmed
03:26that this is his voice.
03:28Now, Mr. Bushra Bibi Sahiba,
03:30tell me, sir,
03:32apart from this audio,
03:34I have an independent question.
03:36In the context of conveying Khan Sahib's message,
03:39Mr. Bushra Sahiba is currently in Peshawar
03:41in KP House or wherever the meetings are taking place,
03:43he is addressing them.
03:45Do you confirm this?
03:47Look,
03:49Mr. Bushra Bibi Sahiba,
03:50in the last meeting with Mr. Khan,
03:53Mr. Khan personally gave him instructions
03:56and those instructions were conveyed
03:58by the officials of his party
04:00and the people who are meeting him.
04:03That is, he fulfilled the responsibility
04:06of conveying Khan Sahib's message.
04:09I understand that,
04:11and the second thing is that
04:13he is a judge in the court,
04:14and the case is still being heard against him.
04:19So he got a chance to meet Mr. Khan.
04:20Mr. Khan communicated exactly
04:22what he was told.
04:25So the reason for this is that
04:27he is Mr. Khan's ally.
04:28Of course, Mr. Khan trusts him
04:30and Mr. Khan is also confident
04:32that whatever he tells him,
04:34he will repeat it with the same words.
04:37So he fulfilled this responsibility
04:38and I think the party is confident
04:40that he conveyed Mr. Khan's message
04:44to the people of Pakistan.
04:46Sir, today, in the presence of Mr. Gandapur
04:49and in the context of the 24th of this month,
04:52slogans were raised,
04:52Al-Jihad, Al-Jihad.
04:55Will you say that the workers were emotional
04:57or the supporters who raised slogans in the office,
04:59will you say, no sir,
05:00this is the slogan of the KPK government,
05:01we are leaving with this slogan.
05:06Look, the first thing is that
05:08the workers, the people, the leaders,
05:10all of them were the leaders of the Pakistani justice system.
05:13They raised the slogan of Jihad.
05:15The meaning of the slogan of Jihad is certainly
05:17that it is the duty of every Muslim
05:19to fight for any sacred duty,
05:23to fight for any such work,
05:25for humanity, for the nation and for the country.
05:29It is called Jihad.
05:30This is the word of Arabic and it came from Jadu Jihad.
05:32And I think that if someone has raised this slogan,
05:35then this is absolutely correct.
05:37We are really in this Jadu Jihad
05:38and we want to make a good state in Pakistan
05:41based on the principles of the constitution
05:45and based on the Islamic values.
05:48If someone calls it Jadu Jihad,
05:51then I don't think there is any fun in it.
05:53I don't think there should be any reason for anyone
05:56to have a negative thought about it.
05:59Jihad does not mean that we are taking a gun and going,
06:02but it is Jadu Jihad and we have been doing it for many years
06:05and this is just a phase of it.
06:08Towards the end,
06:09Mr. Saif, in today's session,
06:12many leaders are not coming,
06:15later Mr. Atif said that it is not relevant to come,
06:18we have to remove people, that is fine.
06:20You are against party discipline,
06:22in the sense that it gives an impression
06:24that things are not right between Mr. Atif and Mr. Gandapur.
06:28Anyway, it is not a secret,
06:29many things have already been said.
06:30Would it be better if they came to today's session?
06:33I don't know, Mr. Saif.
06:34The ideal situation is that everyone participates in the party session,
06:37but sometimes there are personal compulsions as well.
06:39For example, I myself was not in the session,
06:41but this does not mean at all
06:43that there should be a foundation of loyalty with my party.
06:46The second thing is that I do not know specifically about Mr. Atif Khan,
06:50but I think he was in Islamabad.
06:53And the second thing is that I know many such people,
06:57MPAs and MNAs,
06:59who have an MPA in their house,
07:01his mother is sick and I know that he was in Lahore.
07:03So, Mr. CM is going to Apex tomorrow, right?
07:06Yes, he is definitely going.
07:07And is it possible to talk to him about this on the 24th?
07:11I think we will talk about this in the Apex committee,
07:14and Mr. CM has said that if I get a chance there, I will definitely talk to him.
07:19Thank you, sir.
07:20Thank you very much for talking to us.
07:21We will conclude after the break.