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00:00Cincinnati at four and six or even at four and seven.
00:06Denver at five and five.
00:07The Colts at four and six.
00:08We're dogs today against the three and seven Jets.
00:10How about the Miami Dolphins?
00:12They're leasing again.
00:13I understand.
00:13They're three and six right now.
00:15Second place.
00:16Six losses is about all you need to feel like you are actually
00:19in the mix and they're a seven point favorite today.
00:23I'm going to go to you first on just because I know you and
00:25I have talked about this scenario once before a few years
00:28back in an NL wildcard race where again, it was just it was
00:31a very fun season.
00:32I'm like Donnie.
00:33I think they're getting in.
00:33You're like, they're terrible.
00:34I'm like, you're right.
00:35Yeah, still getting in because they have to put another team
00:38in that playoff spot.
00:39And that is what we are getting in the AFC right now.
00:42No, you we are getting that and also case in point the Miami
00:45Dolphins.
00:45They are dead in the water.
00:46They can't make the playoffs.
00:47They're horrible.
00:48It is a joke that they're actually in second place officially
00:50in the AFC East with the record.
00:52They have but let's take a look.
00:53They went on the road and beat the Rams.
00:54I don't think they will beat the Rams.
00:55I thought that would be dead and buried at the end of the
00:57season and Tyree kill would actually be getting surgery on
00:59his wrist and you'd never hear from the rest of the way they
01:02play the Raiders today at home followed by the Patriots at
01:04home. You stack on two more wins there.
01:06They're starting to believe again.
01:07Now granted you go on the road against the Packers would be
01:10a tough one, but then you get the Jets the following week
01:12who again are fighting for those same spots.
01:15So it is kind of interesting where you try to be dead and
01:17buried on some of these teams in case in point Kevin again
01:20is talking about the Cincinnati Bengals out on them to start
01:22the season to make the playoffs for me out on the after three
01:25weeks to make the playoffs and here I am late in the season
01:27going, you know what there's a good price in a pathway.
01:29I can see them still making the playoffs.
01:31Why Joe because so many teams are in the same boat here.
01:33You're just trying to catch lightning at a bottle, but the
01:35thing we get caught up is they're there for a reason with
01:37that like we're saying, oh they can win this they can win this
01:39they haven't won these games, which is why they're in this
01:41spot, which makes it so tough to gauge it is and you know,
01:44like Miami.
01:45I'm a little torn like when you just look at the value right
01:48for Miami at three and six.
01:50Yes, you believe that they could be there because of the
01:53playmakers that they have.
01:55Yeah, but we watch that game play out on Monday night
01:59defensively.
01:59That was one of their best efforts all season long.
02:02Now.
02:02I have concerns offensively, you know is Tyreek a hundred
02:06percent.
02:07Is he the same player?
02:08They can't get him the same type of opportunities for some
02:11reason since to a got hurt early on in the season.
02:15I don't know why it was more Jalen Waddle as the primary
02:18wide receiver for that offense outside of Tyreek now Tyreek
02:22did score but again, I don't know how that's going to play
02:25out over the course of the regular season.
02:27And again, are we going to get that type of effort defensively
02:31from Miami week to week to week?
02:34I don't see it.
02:35I just I'm refusing that right now at this point to buy in
02:40and I actually think the Raiders potentially coming off the
02:43buy or live with the seven today.
02:45Okay.
02:46Yeah, or no.
02:47I thought you were saying to make the playoffs are live or
02:49live today, you know rested.
02:51They've lost five straight.
02:53So I want to see that defense come into form.
02:56They dominate today.
02:57They win by 1417 the way they're supposed to and that defense
03:01shuts down Gardner.
03:02I might take Donnie's take and say, you know what this a
03:04playoff caliber team.
03:05And I just think this is one of those things, right?
03:07And we see this all the time within sports books where there's
03:10seven spots available and there's 19 to the minus price to
03:12make it go on now.
03:14Hold on a second.
03:15We don't have seven teams at a minus price Cincinnati's plus
03:19138 Denver plus 190 culture plus 225 and Miami is plus 285.
03:26You want to get crazy?
03:28The Jets are plus 710.
03:30I don't know if we still want to keep doing that dance, but
03:32you get like here's the thing.
03:34The Colts price says they're in the mix.
03:36They're a four-point dog to the Jets today.
03:39If the favorite comes in the Jets and the Colts have the same
03:43exact record.
03:44Yeah again, if the favorites come in the Jets will have the
03:48same record as the Cincinnati Bengals like that's where we
03:53are right now and Joe trust me.
03:55I don't want to be the person sitting here telling you the
03:56Jets can make the playoffs.
03:57I find everything they've done to be in a complete abomination,
04:00but it is one of those things man that someone is going to
04:04get in.
04:05Yes, someone's going to get it Cincinnati's going to go to
04:07minus if they beat the Chargers tonight, but that is that
04:11coin flip game.
04:12If it lands tails, it opens up the field.
04:15You're right.
04:15So let's I'll take it a step further.
04:17The eye test right in terms of how Cincinnati for me out of
04:22all those passes the eye test because they've gone toe-to-toe
04:26seeing what I saw play out offensively for Aaron Rodgers.
04:29Yep.
04:29They're dead to me.
04:30Yeah.