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00:00But we move to NFL Pain Day Skinny now.
00:04Yeah, we have a lot of NFL Pain Day to do,
00:06and it was good that me and Cam
00:07are on a lot of the same horses this week out in Bermuda
00:12and, of course, also in Dubai for the DP World Tour.
00:15So we do have a couple of things cooking for us this week
00:18on the golf side, which we always love.
00:21NFL now, we, of course, transition to week number 11
00:25here on a Wednesday.
00:26And we do that, of course, we always on this day
00:28start with the best and the worst on the NFL side
00:32against the spread.
00:33The Lions and the Steelers, seven and two,
00:36Washington, seven, two, and one,
00:39Chargers, Colts, Cardinals, Broncos, Vikings
00:41among the best of getting us to the window,
00:44best against the spread.
00:45I'm surprised the Colts are in there,
00:47to be honest with you.
00:48And, you know, I guess even the Jaguars being in there,
00:55but, you know, look, it is what it is.
00:58These are the best teams, like, look at some of these teams.
01:01Like, I think Jim Arbaugh's doing a great job in LA
01:04with the Chargers.
01:05They mean business.
01:07They're a playoff team right now.
01:10Yeah, Colts, four and six straight up,
01:14but seven and three against the numbers.
01:16So they've had a bunch of games where they covered
01:18and lost so far this year.
01:21Same thing with the Jags on that side.
01:23On the worst side of things.
01:25Well, Tennessee stands alone.
01:28They are one and eight against the spread.
01:31The Cowboys, what a shame, two and seven against the number.
01:34Seahawks, Jets, Giants, Panthers, Rams, Browns,
01:37Dolphins, Saints, and Texans, the worst against the spread.
01:41I just wish the Ravens were on that list.
01:44They're not on either list.
01:46That scares me.
01:48Yeah, they're smack in the middle right there.
01:51So they didn't make either list
01:53because when they're smack in the middle,
01:56you can't make it on either side.
01:56But you know what?
01:57If they lose this week against the spread,
01:59or outright, we should say,
02:01they'll start to veer into that worst column.
02:05Maybe you'll see them there next week
02:07after a win at this place the Steelers play for you.
02:11You will see the Ravens on this next one, though,
02:14and that is the best over and under teams in the NFL.
02:18The Ravens have gone over nine of their 10 games this year,
02:22have gone over the number.
02:24So they have played some high-scoring games.
02:26Panthers, Commanders, Bengals, Bucs, seven of their 10.
02:30Raiders and Titans on that side.
02:31On the underside, Texans, eight out of their 10.
02:35Chargers, Giants, Dolphins, Bears, Vikings, and Browns.
02:38Also plenty of unders, not a lot of points in there.
02:41Do you think that Pittsburgh Raven game's
02:44going over on Sunday in Pittsburgh?
02:49I do, actually.
02:50I do think it's gonna go over
02:52because it's kind of the same formula
02:53every week with these Baltimore games.
02:55They can score points and they give up points.
02:58I think that the Steelers are gonna be able
03:00to move the football against that Raven game.
03:04The Ravens have the worst pass defense in the NFL.
03:08They're dead last.
03:10They give up the most passing yards
03:12and they don't stop anybody in the air.
03:14I hope that continues in Pittsburgh.
03:15Believe me.
03:17I hope that it continues in Pittsburgh
03:19as well this week for us.
03:21We will dive into that game more after the break
03:25because I have a lot of stuff from the Pittsburgh Raven game.
03:28I will move this up now, though, and I'll get right to it
03:30because I don't need any graphics for it.
03:32We played a clip of Shane Steichen.
03:34I think it was either yesterday or Tuesday.
03:36Yesterday was Tuesday, so there you go.
03:38Of him saying that they were gonna
03:39still start Joe Flacco this week.
03:40Well, I guess they had a change of heart, Scotty.
03:44The Colts are gonna go back to Anthony Richardson now
03:47this week against the Jets at MetLife.
03:50What do you think?
03:51Why the change of heart?
03:52You think Hersey walked in there and said,
03:54I'm tired of watching this guy throw picks.
03:55Can you put my kid back in there and he can develop?
03:58I wonder what's spurring that on.
04:01Well, first of all, I think he's nuts, that owner.
04:04And so if he walked in the room, I'd be like,
04:07oh, here we go.
04:08Here we go with this whack job.
04:10But I think it's two bad games in a row from Joe
04:15and they got this young, high draft pick.
04:18And you know what?
04:19I mean, you said it, look what they are straight up.
04:22All they do is lose.
04:24Their season's over and they can't just keep
04:28rolling him out there and losing.
04:31They have to try something to turn it around
04:33because it's like going down the drain right now.
04:36So I think this is their life preserver.
04:40They're throwing it out there to see
04:41if the kid can win a game.
04:43I worry about his, frankly, his smarts and his body.
04:47He takes a lot of hits and he gets injured
04:50and this and that.
04:51So I think the Colts are just desperate right now.
04:56Well, like you said, the way he plays,
04:59there's a good chance you might see Flacco again
05:01in short order anyway, because he gets hurt a lot.
05:03I mean, he gets hurt all the time.
05:05Line didn't move either.
05:06It's still three and a half.
05:08They're getting it in that life
05:09against the Jets on Sunday.
05:12So we veer back to the Ravens-Steelers game
05:15for Sunday at one in Pittsburgh.
05:18Absolutely, of course, at the place the Steelers play.
05:23You will be there as we get ready to go.
05:26We always have Mike Tomlin's words of wisdom on a Friday
05:30and we will have that as we always do,
05:32but there was so many things to choose from already
05:35because when the Steelers play the Ravens,
05:37let's just say Mike is always,
05:39he goes like another level as well, like the players.
05:42Mike is extremely pumped up this week.
05:44He loves this rivalry.
05:46I think one of the awesome components of this rivalry
05:49is the continuity in the organizations.
05:51Man, I've been on my job a long time.
05:54Harbs has been on his job a long time.
05:57And I think that adds a texture and history to it.
06:00And so that's something that it's an honor to be a part of.
06:04And we're just simply writing the latest chapter this week
06:09with some new faces, new faces for us
06:11and new faces for them as well.
06:13Guys get an opportunity to be a component of this thing.
06:15And even some guys flipping sides, you know,
06:19guys like Patrick Queen and Moon being on this side of it,
06:23just like Arthur Millett a year or so ago,
06:27moving to their side of it.
06:30But I just think that that's a component of it, man,
06:32is intimacy in this relationship.
06:34We're highly familiar with their players.
06:36They're highly familiar with ours.
06:39Yeah, let's get it on.
06:40Let's just get it on.
06:42A texture, he says.
06:44Intimacy in the relationship
06:47between the Steelers and the Ravens.
06:48And each other.
06:49It's the best rivalry in the division.
06:52There is no other rivalry even close.
06:55You can make a case it's the best in the NFL.
06:59You can make, you can go beyond division
07:01and make that case too.
07:01I think that and the Bills and Chiefs,
07:05the fact that those two games are on Sunday,
07:09back to back, is this is the best week of NFL football,
07:13starting with the Commanders and Eagles tomorrow night.
07:16Those three games in their own right
07:19are, I think, propelling this week
07:22to be the top week of NFL games the entire season so far.
07:26No doubt about that.
07:28You notice Tomlin listed a bunch of guys
07:30who have flipped sides for this game this year,
07:32we should say, for the Steelers and the Ravens.
07:35Deontay Johnson's also one of them.
07:36Now, I'm sure you saw the clip.
07:38It was very short, I didn't play it,
07:40where someone asked him about Johnson
07:42and Mike Tomlin was kind of like,
07:44well, you know, he hasn't really shown up
07:46on any of their film yet.
07:48I ain't too worried.
07:49They got other guys.
07:50They got a lot bigger pieces to worry about,
07:51is what he said.
07:52They got a lot of other things that I'm worried about
07:55than Deontay Johnson.
07:56Well, Johnson, of course, he's excited
07:59to face the Steelers for the first time.
08:01It is just like being back in that stadium
08:05where it all started.
08:07It's gonna be different.
08:08I actually never been in the away locker room,
08:10so that's gonna be different for me.
08:12But I'm ready to get back there
08:14just to see the good people that I made relationships with
08:17and stuff like that.
08:18But other than that, it's a big moment for me.
08:23It is what it is.
08:24The guy plays for the Ravens, so what?
08:26So now you're the enemy.
08:28I don't think anything of you.
08:29You played for the Steelers.
08:31You never got it done with the Steelers.
08:33They never got it done with him.
08:35They went to playoff games and lost,
08:37and now he's gone playing for them,
08:39and now they need to knock his teeth out.
08:43I have no time for him anymore.
08:46If he catches a pass, somebody needs to jack him up.
08:49I mean, he's the enemy.
08:50Let's go.
08:51I think nothing of him.
08:53See ya.
08:54I would lean more towards that he won't catch a pass
08:58anyway, because he is late to the party,
09:01and the Ravens have so many other guys.
09:03Already, you know who's involved with that.
09:07One of my favorite numbers ever is the Mike Tomlin
09:11as a dog at home in his career as the Steeler head coach.
09:1720 wins, six losses, three pushes.
09:21That is good for 77% against the spread
09:25as home underdogs in the Mike Tomlin era.
09:29Let's get 21.
09:31That's insane.
09:32Then last week, we were talking about his numbers,
09:34like 25 and six against rookies,
09:37and he racked up another win there over Daniels.
09:39All this guy does is set a very high bar for himself.
09:46The fans that don't like him in Pittsburgh
09:48can have a sandwich.
09:49Go down to Permanee's because he's not getting fired.
09:53They love him, the Roonies.
09:56As long as this guy wants to coach the Steelers,
09:59he's gonna be coaching them.
10:01I don't think he gets fired.
10:03I think he's at a point where he could coach there
10:06until he retires.
10:09When they go to Permanee's,
10:10they should get that Dangerous sandwich.
10:13With all that, they gotta get the Dangerous.
10:16You gotta go get yourself a Dangerous.
10:19This is obviously still Ravens minus three
10:23with that 48 and a half total that we talked about.
10:26Lamar Jackson, here's another number for you.
10:28One and four against the Steelers
10:31with four touchdowns, seven picks, five lost fumbles.
10:35He's taken 20 sacks.
10:37T.J. Watt and the Steeler defense,
10:40they know Lamar Jackson very well, Scotty, very well.
10:43I mean, it's unbelievable.
10:45They beat him seven of eight.
10:47They seem to have his number.
10:48Nobody else does in the NFL.
10:50He schools everybody, but he doesn't do it to Pittsburgh,
10:53and the Steelers, scoring 23.9 points per game
10:57and allowing 16 a game.
11:00The last two times Pittsburgh hit 21 plus
11:03and allowed less than 17.
11:05Guess what happened?
11:07♪ I got a feeling Pittsburgh's going to the Super Bowl. ♪
11:14Sing it with me.
11:14♪ Got a feeling Pittsburgh's going to the Super Bowl. ♪
11:19That's what they sing in Pittsburgh.
11:21Believe me, you, and here we go.
11:23And it's a scene.
11:24Like, it's just like below.
11:28It's crazy, the tailgating in that town.
11:31Like, between the tailgating that is all over the stadium,
11:35like, it's everywhere.
11:36It's on the north side of Pittsburgh.
11:38So you understand, the stadium is right next
11:40to the, like, freeways.
11:42So there's not like big, huge, around the stadium parties.
11:48It's the north side of Pittsburgh
11:50with all these parking lots where people park their cars.
11:53That's where the tailgates are.
11:55And then in between that,
11:57on every single inch of every street,
11:59there's bars and restaurants,
12:01and they are packed with people getting hammered.
12:05And I'll be in there with them.
12:07I went the last time to Don's Watch Bar,
12:10and I mean, literally,
12:12I didn't think I was going to make it to the stadium.
12:15I mean, I was walking sideways.
12:16So all I know, like, I was like,
12:19I told my buddy, just stand behind me,
12:21make sure I don't go over.
12:23I don't want to tip over.
12:24It's not much better than Tom's Watch Bar.
12:28Tom's Watch Bar is tough.
12:29It's hard to top that.
12:30Strong effort.
12:31It's just great.
12:32Very strong effort over there.
12:33I gotta tell you, the service there sucked, though.
12:36I mean, I waited an hour and a half for a drink.
12:37I thought I was gonna steal someone else's drink
12:41off of their table.
12:42If you're going there on a game day,
12:44I mean, it's gotta be ridiculously packed.
12:48Like, it's, you gotta, I mean, it's gotta be.
12:50You wanna make some money over here.
12:52I got a lot of money I wanna spend.
12:57We will come back.
12:58Waiting for drinks an hour.
12:59Are you kidding me?
13:00I gotta temper.
13:02It's busy.
13:03It's a game day.
13:04Gotta double, it's double the staff.
13:06It's hard to get on so many tables.
13:07He goes, you're Pharrell, the guy on the radio and TV.
13:11I go, yeah, I go, it's been an hour.
13:13Can you give me three drinks?
13:15Three.
13:16He's like, what?
13:17I go, pour me three.
13:17No, that's when you ask for six.
13:21Well, I did, but he got three, too.
13:22I did ask for six.
13:24Double them up.
13:25You gotta bring as many as you possibly can.
13:26I walked to that stadium sideways.
13:28I was like, I can't feel my legs.
13:32We will come back and we will give you some numbers
13:36on the Chiefs and the Bills
13:38with Patrick Mahomes coming up this week.
13:39We have some other injury news to get to.
13:42I've even got, it might be a bye,
13:44but that doesn't mean we don't have something silly
13:46from Giants general manager, Joe Shane,
13:49that we'll play today.
13:50So we have all of that coming up here
13:52with the NFL as we continue.
13:53Well, let me guess, he's gonna tell us
13:54how close they are to being a good football team.
13:56Very close.
13:58Every year being two and eight after 10 games every year
14:01is just, it's really showing you how close they are.
14:04But we will do all of that.
14:06I think he and Dable have done an absolutely
14:15horrible job.
14:16Horrible job.
14:18Horrible job.
14:20The brass of that football organization.
14:22Amara can't even sleep at night.
14:24They're so awful.
14:26Did you see, Carver High,
14:28that J.J. McCarthy had a second knee surgery this week?
14:32Like this guy's been in the league five minutes.
14:34He's had two knee surgeries.
14:37I did just see that come across this afternoon.
14:42That's concerning.
14:43It really is.
14:44They did all the work on him back in August
14:46when he got hurt in the preseason
14:49and now having to go back in a couple months later.
14:54Hopefully it doesn't impede him going into next year,
14:58but that's tough to see that they will.
15:01I'm gonna listen to O'Connell in the next break
15:03and see what he said about it
15:05and see how all of that goes.
15:07We continue on though with our week 11 preview here.
15:11We do have the Bills and the Chiefs this week.
15:13As we know, they know each other very well.
15:16Let's start with this.
15:17Patrick Mahomes.
15:19You think Tomlin's number as a dog at home are good?
15:22How about Patrick Mahomes as a dog, period?
15:24It doesn't happen often,
15:26but he's 12-1-1 against the spread when he is.
15:3012-1-1 against the spread as a dog in his career.
15:35Oh my God, you just cannot bet against this guy.
15:38You're gonna lose money every single time.
15:42Every time.
15:43This I saw yesterday go down to one and a half,
15:46and now I'm seeing today back at two and a half
15:49where it was early in the week.
15:50So we've had a lot of movement here
15:52with the Bill Chief number throughout going forward.
15:55As far as Allen and Mahomes straight up against each other,
15:59and I have said this to you a billion times,
16:01I know Allen has lost three times to Mahomes in the playoffs.
16:05They weren't Allen's fault
16:06because you see his numbers against Mahomes.
16:08They are outstanding.
16:10Mahomes has beat him four out of the seven.
16:12Basically the same team points per game.
16:15Mahomes seven more yards per game.
16:17Allen with 20 touchdowns and four turnovers
16:21compared to Mahomes 16 and six
16:23in all their head-to-head meetings.
16:25Allen has had some great games
16:26against the Kansas City Chiefs,
16:29and he has been let down in the playoffs
16:30by things like his defense and his head coach.
16:34There's no arguing it.
16:36They're like twins, and his kryptonite is this guy,
16:41Mahomes and the Chiefs in the postseason.
16:44It's the, you know, and it's the one thing
16:46that they're gonna have to break through.
16:49They're gonna have to climb over that wall.
16:51There's no other way for them to win a Super Bowl.
16:55They have to beat the Chiefs.
16:57I don't see another way.
17:00Like right now, they're the one and two seeds.
17:03At some point, they're gonna have to see them.
17:06Who else is knocking them off?
17:09You know, look, I think the only teams
17:11that can legitimately knock them off,
17:13as I've said to you before, are, you know,
17:17I think everyone knows,
17:19it's the Ravens, Bills, and Steelers.
17:20That's it.
17:21There's no other teams that can beat them.
17:24I'll say this, that I am in no way comparing
17:27Josh Allen to Peyton Manning.
17:29Peyton Manning was possibly
17:31the greatest regular season quarterback ever
17:33who did end up winning a couple of Super Bowls.
17:36How many times did Manning lose to Brady
17:39before he finally got by him
17:42and then finally went and won with the Colts?
17:44You know, he lost to Brady a lot in the playoffs
17:49before he was finally able to get past him.
17:51Hopefully for Josh Allen and the Bills,
17:54that same path will come to them
17:57where they've lost a lot to the Holmes
17:58and eventually they shatter the glass in the postseason
18:02and end up winning the Super Bowl themselves.
18:04Because if not, it's just, he's always gonna be better.
18:09He's won three times, the other guy's won zero.
18:11So they're not on the same stratosphere right now
18:14in terms of winning, that's for sure.
18:15I can't wait.
18:16Sunday at 425, that can't come fast enough for me.
18:20I always love-
18:21Are you worried about that?
18:21Are you worried about the 12-1-1 against the spread?
18:23Are you worried about the two and a half?
18:27Is what it is.
18:28I'm not worried.
18:29You know me, I don't care about the spread with the Bills,
18:33Scotty, I just want them to win the game.
18:35That's all that matters to me.
18:36I just wanna see them win.
18:38I don't care about it at all.
18:39I already bet on the Steelers
18:40at the three and a half before that ticked to three.
18:44I'm pretty sure the one that's in there is from the Bills,
18:47one of these regular season games the last two years.
18:49And, man, I'll give them a two on Sunday.
18:52Give them the second one on there.
18:54So I got no problem with that.
18:56Let's go and get it done.
18:57I just wanna see them lose.
18:58Let's go.
19:00We gave you the stuff with the Colts.
19:02Gardner Minshew will start for the Raiders against Miami.
19:05This week out of the bye, there was some talk
19:07that maybe they would go back with the Colts.
19:09It's in Miami Gardens.
19:11It is in Miami.
19:13Miami is coming off that win against the Rams
19:16and they have the Raiders coming to town.
19:17They'll beat the Raiders.
19:18The Raiders stink.
19:20I mean, the Dolphins have their confidence now.
19:23They gotta go home and win that game.
19:25It's an absolute must win.
19:27And laying a touchdown.
19:28It's a flat seven here on a Wednesday.
19:31And the Raiders.
19:32I don't know about that.
19:33The number could be a little,
19:35I agree with you, Miami wins the game.
19:37Number could be a little tricky.
19:40Trevor Lawrence is out again against the Lions this week
19:43for Jacksonville.
19:43Mack Jones will start again.
19:46We gave you that number yesterday.
19:49It is very healthy.
19:5013 and a half is where that sits.
19:54And I have this for you as well.
19:56And that is double digit favorites so far this year.
20:00Believe it or not, they have been very good, Scotty.
20:03Here we go.
20:03Four and O against the spread for the double digit teams.
20:07And they cover by an average of 14 points per game.
20:12Make it five and O with the Lions this week.
20:15But you said it yesterday.
20:17We saw, you know, the game where they put 52.
20:22Who was that too?
20:24The Titans.
20:25Titans at home.
20:26The Titans and the Jaguars should be lovers.
20:28They're both so awful.
20:31They should be lovers.
20:32They're both so awful.
20:33Marshawn Lattimore is out again
20:35for Washington tomorrow night against the Eagles.
20:38Man.
20:38Yes, they got him for the playoffs.
20:40I guess so.
20:42You gotta win some games though first
20:43to make sure you're there.
20:44That's now back to three and a half.
20:46We'll obviously spend a lot of time on this tomorrow.
20:49But Eagles now three and a half
20:50with a 48 and a half on Thursday night.
20:52Should be a great one.
20:53My lean is Philly right now.
20:57My lean is Philly right now too.
20:59I know the half is scary,
21:01but I think that the Eagles win that game
21:03by a touchdown plus tomorrow night against Washington.
21:06The entire week 11 slate,
21:08and we will do a lot more of these games tomorrow.
21:12We'll hear from a lot of the coaches,
21:13the players, et cetera.
21:14There it is.
21:15I mean, we're so concentrated on these three enormous games.
21:19There are other games.
21:20Green Bay is in Chicago.
21:20And that baseball is good too.
21:22Yeah.
21:23Sunday night.
21:24Good game as well.
21:25You've got Atlanta in Denver
21:28against the Broncos.
21:29Interesting game.
21:30We told you the Rams are taking that cross country trip
21:33to Foxborough on Sunday after a loss on Monday night.
21:36So lots of good games.
21:38I can't wait to hear this.
21:40Joe Shane, you know,
21:42tell me about how great the Giants are,
21:44the direction they're headed.
21:46Yeah, the GM of these two,
21:48the GMs usually talk going into a bye week
21:51at the middle of the season.
21:52Kind of give their assessment.
21:53How's the year going, et cetera, et cetera.
21:55Well, Joe Shane, it was his turn for the Giants yesterday.
21:57Of course they're two and eight
21:58and things are not going very well.
22:00Now he said that his team is not that far off from success,
22:04which I think is very debatable
22:05and that upset a lot of their fans yesterday.
22:08This is towards the end.
22:10A reporter asked him if the Giants have made
22:13any real progress since him and Dable
22:17got to town three years ago.
22:19Let's see what he thinks.
22:20I don't want to be sitting up here at two and eight.
22:21Like that's not what we want.
22:23And nobody's happy about it.
22:24And I understand that,
22:25but I do see progress
22:29and we're better in different areas.
22:32And again, we're going to evaluate all that stuff this week,
22:33but we're better in a lot of areas.
22:36We just got to figure out how to finish games.
22:37And again, we're in the games.
22:40We're not getting blown out in those games.
22:41We're one in five in close games and that's the league.
22:43We have to develop the mentality
22:45that we're going to win and close out those games.
22:47And that's what we're going to look to do
22:49these last seven games of the season.
22:52Listen, let's just get real here for a second.
22:54This guy has paid a lot of money, millions,
22:58to be the GM of the New York football giants.
23:01And same with Dable, he's paid millions.
23:04And they have to come up with something to say
23:08to cover their ass for the money that they make
23:12and the lack of success, the lack of productivity,
23:16the lack of improvement.
23:17There is absolutely no truth to one word
23:20that came out of his mouth.
23:22They have regressed horrifically
23:25in the three years that he's been in charge.
23:27They are a disaster.
23:30They are a sinking ship.
23:32He is absolutely selling you a boat full of bullshack
23:38like no other, because he gets paid tons of money
23:41and he can't explain it.
23:42He cannot explain in any fashion how bad they actually suck.
23:48I mean, we don't need him to tell us.
23:51The public, we can watch his team
23:54on a weekly basis bend over.
23:58They lose every week.
23:59They're awful.
24:00They are flat out awful.
24:02They are not good at doing anything at all.
24:07Now, hopefully, they can be good at one thing.
24:12We need you to do one job, one job.
24:14You got one job.
24:16Don't screw it up.
24:17They need to tank.
24:19They need to lose every game they play the rest of the way.
24:22Their season's already over, it's over.
24:24They need to tank and they need to end up
24:27in the draft pick in the NFL draft.
24:29That's all there is to it.
24:31That's it.
24:32And this has started to-
24:33And they gotta get rid of Daniel Jones
24:34and get a new quarterback.
24:36I'm gonna go there with you now
24:37because this has started to be floated around
24:41the past couple of days,
24:42especially with them on a bye this week.
24:44Obviously, they wanna get out from Jones
24:47at the end of this year.
24:48Now, if he gets injured and couldn't pass a physical
24:52on March 1st, they would owe him $23 million
24:55fully guaranteed next year.
24:57Now, this is gonna be similar to what the Broncos did,
24:59if you remember, with Russell Wilson last year.
25:02Remember, they didn't play him the last few games.
25:04They didn't want him to get hurt
25:05so that they would be forced to pay him.
25:08I think there is a feeling that the Giants
25:10are going to put Jones on the shelf squarely
25:14because they don't want him getting hurt
25:17and they don't want him to have any kind of injury
25:20where they can't get rid of him in March.
25:22No mercy.
25:23I don't wanna hear it from him or his agent
25:26or anyone when they do the move
25:29because he's got it coming.
25:32This guy is an atrocity.
25:35His career is going downhill fast on a slippery slope
25:40and they need to bench him now and get it over with
25:43so they don't get fleeced again.
25:45They've already been fleeced by him once.
25:47Fool me once, not twice, okay?
25:50And I'll tell you another thing.
25:51If they screw this up, this tanking,
25:56they have to do it.
25:57You know they've had that conversation.
25:59Mara has sat with Shane and has obviously said,
26:01listen, we need to lose every game.
26:03We're gonna get that top draft pick.
26:04He's not playing and if they screw that up,
26:08then Mara has to fire Shane and Dable.
26:12You cannot screw this up.
26:13So they have to be held accountable if they screw it up.
26:18I mean.
26:18Yeah, I'd almost think they'd lose more
26:22if they played him, possibly.
26:25But now I know they're not gonna play him
26:27because it's too risky.
26:29I know I'm 23 million.
26:30Too risky, you can't play him.
26:33Now, I guess you play Drew Locke.
26:35DeVito won too many games last year when they put him in.
26:38They can't play that Tommy DeVito, Tommy Cutlets again.
26:41Let Drew Locke throw a bunch of interceptions
26:44to the other team, let him play.
26:46Honestly.
26:48All right, we go into the third and final hour here
26:50on C2C.
26:51Great to have our audience with us.
26:53Carver High and I in New York City.
26:54Mafia running at Luke.
26:55I have Javada with us as well,
26:57running all the graphics and all the audio,
26:59everything else.
27:00So I have to ask you, seriously,
27:03you're sitting here in the break telling me
27:05that you think they're gonna run it back
27:06with Shane and Dable.
27:08And I think the rue of the day, they did it.
27:13I mean, he's already mowed through four coaches recently.
27:16Why not another?
27:18And I'll tell you what, people say Belichick's too old.
27:20Belichick could coach the Giants better drunk.
27:25Look, I've thought for a long time
27:26that Belichick was a natural match
27:28because of how much he loves that franchise
27:31and how much the franchise loves him.
27:33And I thought that him and Mara would be
27:36a good match together.
27:37I believe that these two guys, Shane and Dable,
27:41have sold John Mara that they need a chance
27:45to start fresh with their own quarterback.
27:47I think that they have, in the process last year,
27:50they sold him that.
27:52We love these two guys and it would change us,
27:54but we're just not close enough to get them.
27:56We need to have our own quarterback.
27:58And I think that that's why he has been sold
28:01that bill of goods.
28:02Now, if it went completely in the tank
28:04and they win another game the rest of the year,
28:07would Mara be embarrassed enough to fire them both?
28:09It's very possible.
28:11But I think he's gonna let those two guys
28:13draft their own quarterback.
28:14I think he's gonna do it.
28:16Not saying I agree with it,
28:18not saying I agree with it,
28:19but I think that's what he's gonna do.
28:21Listen, I've already seen enough, okay?
28:24I like Brian as a person, I do.
28:28I don't know Joe.
28:29I know Brian.
28:31I like him a lot as an individual,
28:33as a person, as a friend, whatever.
28:36He's a nice guy.
28:37I really think the world of him.
28:39But I think he sucks as a coach.
28:41I mean, and I think Shane is just an embarrassment.
28:44I'll tell you another thing.
28:46When he did the whole Barkley thing on that show they do,
28:50whatever it's called.
28:51What is it called?
28:53Hard Knocks, on the Hard Knocks show.
28:55Okay, I don't watch, but I saw all those clips.
28:58And that was all I needed to see,
29:01that he's another one, he's a doofus.
29:03This guy is such a doofus.
29:05The way he talked to Barkley on the phone,
29:08it was so embarrassing.
29:10Like, he's gotta go through,
29:11like talking with brothers class.
29:13He needs to go back to like learn how to talk to,
29:16you know, professional athletes and brothers.
29:18He doesn't know how to do it.
29:19He's just an absolute dork.
29:20He's a nerd, he's a loser.
29:22Anyone had this guy sitting there today
29:25trying to sell us that bill of goods?
29:26Are you kidding me?
29:28My daughter could run the Giants better than this doofus.
29:32I'm not even close to being wrong either.
29:34This guy's a tool.
29:37The proof's in the pudding, Christ Almighty.
29:39How many years do I have to watch this guy fail
29:42at everything he does and every move he makes?
29:44Every deal he makes is awful.
29:47They're a disaster.
29:48He doesn't know how to draft.
29:50He doesn't know how to do anything right.
29:52And then he has press conferences
29:55and tries to lie through his teeth
29:57that they're getting better.
29:58Are you kidding me?
29:59I would have respected him more
30:01if he would have come out and said,
30:02oh, it's just been such a disaster.
30:04I haven't slept in three months.
30:06Honestly, I can't even sleep, I don't eat.
30:08I've lost, you know, Brian's lost 100 pounds,
30:10but he's doing it with Ozempic.
30:11I've just lost 100 pounds today.
30:13I haven't eaten in a month because we're so awful.
30:16I've tried everything.
30:17You know, pills are next.
30:19I'm gonna start drinking.
30:21It would have been great if he would have said,
30:23I'm gonna start drinking out of the bottle,
30:24sleeping under a bridge.
30:26I would have respected him.
30:27I don't respect liars.
30:29He's a liar.
30:30Anyone that can sit there and tell me
30:31the Giants are better in any category
30:34over the last three years, have a sandwich.
30:37Honestly, stop.
30:39They're worse than the Jets.
30:43Very possible.
30:44It's hard to be worse than the Jets, but they're close.
30:47I think it's the organization.
30:49I think Douglas drafts better than Shane.
30:54I think that Douglas has the illusion
30:57of drafting better than Shane
30:59because of Garrett Wilson, Breece Hall,
31:01and Sauce Gardner.
31:03I don't deny Neighbors is a good draft pick,
31:05but what else did they draft?
31:06Garbage.
31:07It's because you're in the top five
31:10and you get one of the best five players
31:11in college football.
31:12That's easy.
31:13It's what you do from two through seven
31:16that shows you what you're made of.
31:19He's done a bad job with the draft.
31:21He's done a very bad job with the draft
31:23the last couple of years.
31:24Very bad job.
31:26Vikings defensive coordinator Brian Flores
31:28wants to be an NFL head coach again.
31:30Well, good luck.
31:31That's pretty much all I can say there.
31:33No one wants you.
31:34Good luck.
31:36We'll see if that happens.
31:38He's a good coach,
31:39but we'll see if that could come across that.
31:41All right, let me get a couple futures in
31:43and then we'll move on to the college football
31:44after the break.
31:45Listen, if this guy sues people for discrimination,
31:48he thinks everyone's a racist apparently,
31:51then that's what he does.
31:52He sues people.
31:53No one wants to touch him with a 10-foot pole.
31:56I'm surprised because I think he's a really good coach.
32:01I'm surprised he even has a job in the NFL
32:03the way he's threatened everyone
32:04with lawsuits for discrimination.
32:06That everybody's out to get him
32:08and people are scared to death of that guy.
32:11Honestly, it's like people that get sued
32:15by these constant sexual harassment lawsuits.
32:18You know, people have a track record of doing these things
32:22when they have jobs and they lose jobs
32:24and then they start suing people.
32:26I know people that are scared to death of lawsuits
32:29and lawyers and people with money that you take them on,
32:34you're asking for trouble.
32:35But what happens is, I think he's blackballed.
32:38I think he's blackballed.
32:39Who wants to hire a guy that sues everybody?
32:42Like, it's like the kiss of death.
32:44It's like the black widow.
32:46I mean, this guy's, he's a killer.
32:49I don't want nothing to do with him.
32:51Who's gonna hire him?
32:52He hasn't been up for one head coaching job
32:55since he started suing people.
32:57Let's just get real here.
32:58Can we be real like we always are on coast to coast?
33:02And instead of all this candy ass,
33:03saltwater taffy nonsense, this guy is nothing but trouble.
33:07He sues people.
33:08He thinks everybody's a racist.
33:11That's it.
33:12That's all there is to it.
33:13This guy's a racist.
33:14This guy's a, he hates this.
33:16This guy, I'm gonna get you.
33:18Like, there's nothing worse in business.
33:22There really isn't.
33:23But is there?
33:24No one wants nothing to do with him.
33:25I'm surprised he even has a job at the Vikings.
33:28I am.
33:29It'd be very hard for him to get another job,
33:31a head coaching job.
33:32Be very difficult.
33:33It's like hiring John Gruden.
33:34With some of the things that have happened.
33:35After John Gruden sent out all of his emails,
33:38how's he doing?
33:39He can't even get a job coaching high school.
33:43I've heard some rumblings
33:45that people are getting interested in him again.
33:48Of course.
33:49The rumblings have been out there.
33:50Time passes and he's white.
33:53Time has passed and I've heard,
33:55I've heard a couple teams
33:57that would maybe pick up the phone and call.
34:00We shall see if that happens.
34:02Let's see who gets the job first.
34:03The white guy with all of his homophobic hate
34:06or the black guy that says everybody is a racist.
34:10Let's see which one gets the job first in this country.
34:13In this country, you know who's getting the job first.
34:16I think we're still far away from either of them.
34:19Probably getting back in the mix
34:21as a head coach in the NFL.
34:24Quickly, odds to win the AFC,
34:27obviously it's still the Chiefs.
34:29They are the favorite for you with the Ravens, Bills,
34:32Texans, Chargers.
34:32They still got the Steelers
34:34fairly far down this list for me
34:36with how well they have played so far.
34:39The Steelers are down there just past the Texans
34:42on that AFC list.
34:44That's gonna change a lot
34:45if they beat the Ravens this Sunday.
34:47So the Texans don't score at all in the second half
34:49in like, what, four straight games?
34:51And the Steelers are scoring 35 a week
34:54and the Texans are better than the Steelers.
34:57Here's to the sports books with all of their crappy odds
34:59they keep giving us every day.
35:02Honestly, I'm done with it.
35:04I'm done listening to sports books.
35:06Give me my advice about sports.
35:10If you don't listen to them,
35:11I guarantee you have a healthier day and lifestyle.
35:14Guaranteed.
35:15Listen to them.
35:16They'll suck the life out of you,
35:18take all your money and sleep with your wife.
35:21I'm not wrong either.
35:22Lions are favored in the NFC.
35:24Lions are favored in the NFC on the other side.
35:26There you go.