Nilinaw ni dating Pangulong Rodrigo Duterte sa pagdinig ng QuadComm nitong Martes, November 13, ang ilan sa mga sinabi ni Col. Royina Garma sa kaniyang affidavit.
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00:00Mr. President, I'd like to ask about your 2016 meeting allegedly, and according to the testimony of Col. Garma, you made a phone call to her asking about how to come up with a task force for the nationwide implementation of your supposed drug war.
00:19You mentioned earlier, under questioning by Congressman Pimentel, that Col. Garma is lying, that you never had that conversation, and if I'm not mistaken, you said that she approached you with information as to drug suspects, and that, if I understand correctly, he called Leonardo to corroborate the same. Is that your statement, Mr. President?
00:47Many times, not all of them, but as to the statement of forming a unit, you cannot do that because that would be a violation of policy and law regulation.
01:11It is only the police, national police, who can create units and whatever units that they want.
01:23The mayor really doesn't care. It's out of his power to do something. But he can supervise the activities of the police by, you know, requesting the assignment of people here and there. But you do not have the mayors now, the executives, no longer in control of the police.
01:49Mr. President, just a clarification. This alleged meeting in 2016 was in preparation for the nationwide rollout of your drug war. You were no longer mayor, you are now president, and at this time, I believe that the PNP would be answerable to you.
02:06So it would definitely be within your powers to order the chief PNP to create a special unit, in the same way that the chief PNP was answerable to you when you had him implement a planned double battle.
02:20So with that, Mr. President, seeing that it was within your power, if you willed it, that a task force be committed, that a task force be organized, it is very much possible that you called Lt. Garba asking how to formulate this.
02:36I'm sorry, Mr. President, I just don't agree that you were powerless to create this task force. As far as this representation is concerned, it is well within your powers.
02:48So with that, Mr. Chair, Mr. President, how do we reconcile now your statement that you never made that call to Garba to organize that task force, when Col. Garba was able to give specific details about your call to her, about your meeting, in relation to finding a person to manage your drug war, in the person of Col. Leonardo.
03:16This fact you stated on national television, I believe it was an interview with Attorney Panelo, in which you gave your reasoning for selecting someone of that religious affiliation.
03:31So how can you say now, Mr. President, that the affidavit of Garba is not true, when there are bits and pieces of facts there that you yourself corroborated?
03:42Bits and pieces. It can be the whole of the affidavit that I'm saying now. I don't understand what he's saying.
03:54I have not read the affidavit, so that I would not be in a position to correctly really respond to your question. I am at a loss.
04:07So you are now trying to investigate me. You're like an investigator. You're holding an affidavit there, executed by another person, and you're trying to confront me with the statements made in that affidavit.
04:30And you're trying to exact an answer from me. Pagkaganon, maghinto tayo dito. That is not proper. That is not fair.
04:46Mr. President, uh, we're not...
04:48Hindi pala, hindi. Titindig ako dito. Bigyan mo muna ako ng...
04:53Yes, Mr. President.
04:56Hindi mo ako filipin. Masahin ko. Before I answer you.
04:59Yes, Mr. President, sir.
05:15Uh, hearing resumed. Go ahead, uh, Congressman Raj.
05:33Uh, Mr. President, I will rephrase. Uh, just to reiterate the context, this is not to confront you with the affidavit, but we want to reconfirm your statement with your interview with Attorney Panelo.
05:45Because, just for your information, Mr. President, we understand you do not have the affidavit now. But one of the bits and pieces that was relayed by Colonel Garma is that you contacted her looking for a person with a particular skill set and religious affiliation to help you manage and drive your drug war.
06:07Now, that fact, you have corroborated in your interview with Attorney Panelo when you said that you were looking for a person of that religious affiliation because they are trustworthy with money. So I am now asking, Mr. President, with your corroboration in that interview, does that not jive with what Colonel Garma is saying?
06:31It does not jive because I, uh, I was looking for a particular person. Maybe a member of a sect, but, uh, it had to be one who has the brain and the balls to do the job.
06:46So, Mr. President, if you were looking for a person to fill that position, what position did you have in mind? Was this your drug war czar?
06:56No. We have a drug enforcement unit in the government. They were there to just ask for advice on how they would participate in the drug war.
07:14They cannot create a unit because that is not allowed. It is only the police who can create a unit or a division. The males do not have that power.
07:30Mr. President, I'm talking about this time you were already President Pono. So you were in a power to create that position. I'll just go back to your statement, Pono, Mr. President.
07:41You said you were looking for someone with the smarts and the balls, sorry for the language, you were looking for someone of that capacity.
07:50Now, according to Colonel Garma, you were looking for that person to manage your drug war. But you are saying now that it is not to manage your drug war because you couldn't create that position.
08:01It's her statement. Do not bind me with her statement.
08:06No, I'm now asking, Mr. President, about your statement. Why were you looking for someone with the brains and the capacity?
08:14What is the job that you would give to that person?
08:18Because drug money is corrupt. That is why we are not succeeding because drug money is supporting this syndicate.
08:35Money is easy. It gives money. Let's not get confused here. That is why we are not succeeding because money is easy to sell to children.
08:54They bribe. Let's not get confused on who is guilty. Let's be here in the truth. Let's not go far from the truth.
09:09So Mr. President, you are confirming that you were looking for someone to fill the shoes of a position related to the drug war because you are talking about drug money and how it corrupts people.
09:21Yes, that is why.
09:22That is why I said that it is the Church Of Christ.
09:27So, that's right.
09:30Because the Church Of Christ, normally, you are not really corrupt.
09:36I don't receive money because I am a mayor.
09:41You cannot easily corrupt a member of the Church Of Christ who is a policeman or soldier.
09:50That is the explanation.
09:53Thank you for the clarification, Mr. President.
09:55Yes, sir.
09:56Mr. President, so in that case, Colonel Garma is correct in which you were looking for a person of that sect with those qualities to man your drug war.
10:07It's correct. It's not man...
10:09To manage or...
10:11It's not man because it's money. It's meaning in command.
10:15You are only thinking of two people. There is a drug unit in every department.
10:22The war on is a special operation.
10:28They want, they were proposing something because they know that there is a drug in that pier.
10:39It is not creating a command because you cannot do that.
10:44It belongs to the police hierarchy, if you may.
10:50The mayor has no power there.
10:55Thank you, Mr. President.
10:56It was an operation.
10:58They were the ones who said that we only have this.
11:02Okay, fine.
11:03As mayor, I will support you.
11:06What would I refuse?
11:10If a police officer comes here and says, sir, we know that you are using this sport.
11:17Who is the mayor that won't...
11:23Especially me.
11:26So, Mr. President...
11:27Because I am the one who kills drugs.
11:32I will support the police.
11:35So, Mr. President, when you were looking for this person, in the person of Colonel Leonardo,
11:40although it was not to create a task force, it was for an operation which they were proposing.
11:45That is what you are telling us now, Mr. President.
11:47Yes, because as I said, it is corruption.
11:55It is easy for law enforcement to be corrupt.
11:59That is why you need a person who...
12:02I said, those are the churches of Christ.
12:04It is not easy to buy.
12:06That's the reason why.