Mientras se especula la posible separación entre Wanda Nara y Mauro Icardi, se destaca el cambio en las consideraciones legales respecto a las mascotas familiares, donde ahora se prioriza el vínculo afectivo por encima de la propiedad legal. Los abogados de familia incluyen cada vez más a las mascotas en sus convenios, estableciendo acuerdos sobre su cuidado y gastos.
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00:00Is he still in love with her?
00:01For me, yes.
00:02No doubt.
00:03And Wanda too.
00:04Wanda too, you say?
00:05Yes.
00:06How much do you charge?
00:07Between story to story, how much do you charge for a story, Wanda, and how much do you read?
00:10Do you charge for stories?
00:11Of course.
00:12Yes.
00:13Of course.
00:14Yes, yes.
00:15Very good quote.
00:16And a fact.
00:17It is rumored that Icardi, out there, planned a romance in Turkey, where he is very beloved.
00:22It is necessary to say that Icardi is a star, in Turkey he is the most important player,
00:26he is the captain, he is the scorer, he is loved in Turkey by Atatürk, he is a champion,
00:31and he is related to Zingeza Hime.
00:34Ah, with Zingeza?
00:35Yes.
00:36Who?
00:37She is a singer.
00:38Ah, she is Turkish.
00:39She is a Turkish singer.
00:40Of course, Turkish.
00:41She is 43 years old.
00:42Is that the one that is coming out?
00:43Look.
00:44She is a star.
00:45Forty-three years old?
00:46Forty-three.
00:47Very well done.
00:48They are not expensive.
00:49Do you like big women?
00:50Very well known.
00:51Hey, big.
00:52Don't get excited.
00:53How old is she?
00:54Forty-three.
00:55And this fact, which is very picturesque, and Clara will like it.
00:57Because it is a romantic, Clara.
00:58Yes.
00:59When he scores a goal, what happens?
01:00Ah.
01:01For Clara.
01:02You see that the ball has speakers?
01:03Yes, yes.
01:04He scores a goal and this girl's songs play.
01:05Don't tell me.
01:06So look at what the link is.
01:07Some say it is.
01:08Let's see.
01:09Can we listen to it?
01:10Yes, please.
01:11Play it.
01:12Zingeza Hime.
01:13There it is.
01:14How beautiful.
01:15She sings well too.
01:16It looks like the soap operas.
01:18from another channel in the afternoon.
01:24Of course.
01:26How do plastic surgical workers in Turkey, OK?
01:33Stop him, I'll translate.
01:35I'm Turkish.
01:36Ah, please.
01:37Yes, but very well.
01:38I mean, Icardi won a Turkish star.
01:40Yes, they also told me about a Turkish journalist.
01:42That is, if she comes in quantity.
01:43Well, the quantity was found.
01:45The single woman, of course.
01:47But you mentioned a topic.
01:49Yes.
01:50The pets.
01:51The pets.
01:52What happened to the pets?
01:53Of course.
01:54Because here is a puppy.
01:55There is a sausage puppy.
01:56Yes.
01:57When he came, he took pictures.
01:58They were together.
01:59Wanda, the sausage puppy and the children.
02:00But it seems that there were pets in Turkey that are of the girls in common.
02:01And that Wanda says she has them as hostages.
02:02Exactly.
02:03Let's see.
02:04Let's ask Dr. Monica Grajewski, who is a family lawyer.
02:05How are you, doctor?
02:06How are you?
02:07Good morning.
02:08Hello.
02:09Good morning.
02:10Good morning.
02:11Good morning.
02:12Good morning.
02:13Good morning.
02:14Good morning.
02:15Good morning.
02:16Good morning.
02:17How are you?
02:18Good morning, Guille.
02:19Good morning, team.
02:20How are you?
02:21Very well.
02:22Worried about this topic.
02:23What happens with pets?
02:24Because, let's see, what is the criterion to decide who stays with the cat, with the puppy?
02:30It's a topic, right?
02:31Well, the good thing about all this is that, notice what we are talking about.
02:35We are talking about a topic that has not been talked about for a very short time.
02:39Exactly.
02:40What happens with the animals within the family?
02:42Yes.
02:43At that time, these were things that were not brought up to the judges, that people
02:47settled with each other and, for better or worse, they decided to close the door because
02:54it seemed crazy to bring up this issue in court.
02:59Okay.
03:00The only issues that were raised in court were those of the animals that had some
03:04economic or emotional value, such as a racing horse or a cattle.
03:08Or that kind of animal But here we are talking about the bobby dog.
03:10They stayed outside.
03:11Yes.
03:12Nowadays, it's been a long time that, well,
03:14us, family lawyers, when we make agreements,
03:17we always include the animals of the family,
03:20who they stay with, how they're going to pay their visits,
03:22and what food they're going to pay for these animals.
03:25Because the animals eat, go to the vet, et cetera, et cetera,
03:28and generate a lot of expenses.
03:30Now, Monica.
03:30So, in general, they agree on food as well.
03:33One supposes.
03:34The problem is that the judges, like in this case,
03:37and they're fighting for the animals of the family, right?
03:40Because we, in Argentina, we don't have a law,
03:45like there are in other countries,
03:47of what happens to pets when there's a divorce
03:51or when there's a separation in the family.
03:54They have a recourse, and that's where it's determined.
03:57Here, it's not determined.
03:59So, when the questions are asked to the judges,
04:02at first, the judges say,
04:04this is not our competition,
04:05because for us, for Argentina,
04:07all kinds of animals are things.
04:10They're regulated within things.
04:12But all of us who have pets
04:14know that for us, they're not things.
04:16No, it's not obvious.
04:16They're of the family.
04:17The value that they have.
04:18Of course.
04:19Doctor, one supposes that the criterion, what is it?
04:21That they stay with the kids?
04:23That a pet with a kid in its care is good for it?
04:25What would it be?
04:28Not necessarily.
04:29There's no fixed criterion.
04:31The good thing is that now the judges are getting involved
04:33and they're deciding.
04:34But this is case by case.
04:35What you said is what happens in the vast majority of cases.
04:39When there are kids,
04:40the kids are emotionally involved.
04:43When there are disabled people, too,
04:45maybe a Lazarillo dog, a company dog.
04:47That kind of thing, in general,
04:49the judges decide on that side.
04:51But not necessarily,
04:53because the kids also go to visit
04:55the house of the other parent.
04:56Maybe they have the same amount of time with each one.
05:00Or they live in different countries,
05:01like in this case,
05:02it's going to be difficult to move the pets.
05:05If the justice has to decide.
05:08Change, doctor.
05:09Not necessarily.
05:10The criterion, because Sikar says,
05:12I bought them, that's how they were adopted.
05:16Well, actually, the issue of this,
05:19if we continue to consider things,
05:20what the judge would consider is who bought it.
05:23Because the one who bought it is the owner,
05:25even if there are no papers,
05:26that they are not pedigree, I don't know.
05:28But nowadays that is put aside.
05:29Who bought it, it doesn't matter.
05:31What matters is affection.
05:33We have a concept that is given within the family
05:37and is also being applied to the pets of the family,
05:40which is socioaffectiveness.
05:42What rules is the affective relationship
05:44that was formed in this family.
05:45It doesn't matter who introduced it in the family.
05:47Notice that there are many cases of,
05:49nowadays, more and more,
05:51there are cases of couples who decide not to have children
05:54and their pets are their children.
05:56So the issue of affection is very important.
06:00It doesn't matter who bought it.
06:02This is not an economic issue or an owner's issue.
06:04This is a matter of affection.
06:06And what is often agreed upon is custody,
06:09as if they were boys,
06:10visits, as if they were boys, as if they were children,
06:13because they are not exactly like children.
06:14What happens is that they are two different continents.
06:17Of course, it's a topic.
06:18No?
06:19It's complicated.
06:20No, it's not.
06:21The father lives in Flores and the mother lives in Pilar.
06:24Here we are talking about Argentina and Turkey.
06:27Here we are talking...
06:28No, this is an aggregate of greater difficulty.
06:32Of course.
06:33If it's not an arrangement,
06:34it's very technical to tell you
06:35which judge will have to deal with this issue,
06:38who is the competent judge,
06:39which at first glance would seem to be the one from Turkey,
06:42and what law will be applied.
06:43Let's say, when it comes to international things,
06:45you have to decide who is the competent judge,
06:47I mean, it's determined in the law, right?
06:49But who is the competent judge
06:50and what is the law that applies?
06:52What I told you is in Argentina.
06:54There are countries,
06:55I don't think Turkey has regulation
06:57about pets in the family,
06:59but in Europe they don't have it regulated
07:01because the Union has a regulation
07:03that says that countries have to adapt.
07:05In fact, the Spanish law says exactly
07:08that in the regulatory agreement for divorce,
07:11it has to be included who is the...
07:14Who is the dog going to stay with,
07:15what visits are going to be made,
07:17what is going to be his food regimen.
07:19Even the Spanish law says
07:22that he will never be able to have the custody of his children,
07:25who was violent with the pet of the family, let's say.
07:29Notice the importance that the pet has
07:31to determine personal care,
07:34what they call custody.
07:36No, sure.
07:37Doctor, thank you for your contribution.
07:39Thank you very much.
07:40I send you a greeting.
07:41Likewise, likewise.
07:43Well, how nice is this job.
07:44We start with a policeman, we talk about Trump,
07:45we end up talking about who stays with the pets, right?
07:48That is something important.
07:51And today, justice has to take it into account
07:53and it has to weigh it,
07:55because a dog, a cat are fundamental today
07:57in the life, in the upbringing of children,
07:59in the accompaniment of older adults,
08:02or in whoever loves it, because it is reciprocal.
08:05The affection, of course.
08:06The affection.