Former WWE wrestler Maven Huffman peels back the curtain on his five-year career in professional wrestling from 2001 to 2005.
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00:00I'm Maven Huffman, I was a pro wrestler for five years.
00:02Here's everything I'm authorized to tell you about my time in the WWE.
00:07Wrestling was ruined for
00:12me as a fan the first days and being in a locker room.
00:20The moment you're back there and you see, it's just like, I love hot dogs.
00:25I don't wanna see how they're made.
00:26Same with wrestling.
00:28It's, once you see the ins and outs, once you see behind the curtain,
00:35it's just hard to look at it the same afterwards, because you realize it's a show.
00:40I don't ever remember thinking that it was real.
00:44I always knew it was entertainment, and I was fine with that.
00:48Obviously, we're doing something that's athletic.
00:51Accidents happen, things can happen while the show was taking place.
00:56But for the most part, you hope things go as they are written.
01:01A work is when two people are
01:07putting on a performance that isn't necessarily the truth.
01:13When they're playing characters,
01:15when they're putting out a product that is fiction.
01:22And the contrary to that is a shoot.
01:26And a shoot is when something is 100% real.
01:29If you notice, a ref always has an IFB in.
01:38And he's getting instructions from the back.
01:41Now, mostly the ref is there to keep you on time cues.
01:46If you're doing a televised match,
01:48you might have six minutes for a normal television match.
01:51And that's six minutes with entrances and your exits.
01:55That's six minutes all together.
01:57And the ref, when you're out there, the more you wrestle,
02:00the more you learn how to have that internal clock.
02:03I would work with guys that they could know down to 30 seconds how long they had
02:07been in the ring.
02:08And the whole time we're out there, the ref is leaning down and
02:12he's giving us cues.
02:14I've also worked with refs.
02:15I remember in a pay-per-view in Puerto Rico,
02:19Mike Chioda changed the whole match because he had gotten through his IFB from
02:23Vince McMahon, that they wanted me to cut a promo on the spot because
02:27the crowd was, they were coming at me so much.
02:32And I wouldn't have known to do that.
02:35I wouldn't have done it because I wouldn't have wanted to get in trouble.
02:38But the fact that it was coming from the ref,
02:40I knew that it was coming from the back.
02:42Once you get in the world as a professional wrestler,
02:47once you enter that life, nothing about life that you,
02:51as you've known it, will ever be the same again.
02:56Every week, you're gonna be leaving your house and
02:58you're gonna be flying out to a new city.
03:01You're gonna be renting a car and you're gonna be wrestling house shows.
03:04And what do I mean by house shows?
03:06Non-televised shows that are streaming on TV.
03:09And what do I mean by house shows?
03:11Non-televised shows that are strictly for the house.
03:14And after those shows, you're gonna be getting in a car with someone that you're
03:18on the road with and you're gonna be driving to another city and
03:21doing it all over again.
03:23And the whole time, you're gonna be still trying to eat good.
03:26And you're gonna be still trying to get workouts in.
03:30And you're gonna be having a good time.
03:32You wanna go out young, have a little bit of money.
03:36You're gonna wanna party a little bit.
03:37It definitely was an intense schedule.
03:39And every month, we would have a pay-per-view every Sunday.
03:45And this was probably, I would say, over 100 guys and girls.
03:51The only thing that we would have taken care of
03:55on a weekly basis was our airfare.
03:57Once we landed in a town, every expense was on us.
04:02Rental car, food, hotel.
04:05And those expenses, you're on the road four or five days, they pile up.
04:09I mean, it costs a lot of money to go from town to town.
04:12And you might, and I've even done a video about it.
04:15You might make $5,000 a week, but
04:19it goes quickly if you're spending $1,800 on your road expenses.
04:25And then once you get home, you've gotta make sure you pay Uncle Sam.
04:30And you might have a rude awakening at the end of the year if you don't get that
04:33taken care of.
04:34All the road is, is an extension of who you are in real life.
04:39If you are a gambler, you're gonna find places to go place bets on the road.
04:43If you are into strip clubs, like I was at the time,
04:47I'm gonna find strip clubs where I go when I'm on the road.
04:50Because also, you don't have anybody keeping you grounded.
04:54You don't have anyone that's probably helping you make better decisions.
04:58I know I ran into that problem a lot.
05:02When I had a pocket full of money and no one telling me not to go places, I went.
05:08Every group has their groupies.
05:19Every group has the all too eager female fan base that's there.
05:29Wanting to meet the boys.
05:30For wrestlers, they're ring rats.
05:31For, I think, comedians, they're chockers.
05:35For NASCAR, they're pit lizards.
05:39Every group's got them.
05:40Anytime anyone thinks that, you guys are rock stars, you guys have it made.
05:48No, we are not rock stars.
05:50The ring rats that would show up at our hotels.
05:53Not necessarily, not necessarily the ones that are showing up for
05:58the Rolling Stones back in the day.
06:00It was never quite that easy.
06:02I wasn't like, I wasn't Ubering sex.
06:05I wasn't door dashing, door dashing ring rats.
06:10Anyone that ever wonders the benefits of steroids or
06:17questions the, just, do they really work?
06:24I'll encourage them.
06:27I'll show them a picture of my first promo shot when I got into the WWE.
06:32And it's, I still, I can picture it in my head as a blue background.
06:36And I got on my first cycle, and we were getting good stuff at the time.
06:42I had a doctor who was running my blood work and
06:45who knew exactly what to put me on to get the look that I wanted.
06:49Was I gonna go out and win a power lifting contest?
06:52Absolutely not.
06:53I didn't care about that.
06:55Was I gonna look like a million bucks?
06:57You bet your bottom dollar.
07:00And there was a period between my first promo shot and my second promo shot,
07:06I think 13 or 14 months passed.
07:08And I looked like a completely different human being.
07:11But I had been on, my magical mix the whole time I was there
07:17was Anavar and Winstrel.
07:21For whatever reason, that stack for me,
07:26it blew me up, and it made me hard, and it made me really lean.
07:32And it didn't really matter what I ate.
07:34I didn't eat bad at the time, but I could eat whatever I wanted.
07:39And I was still going to stay relatively jacked.
07:43I'll never say I was forced to do anything.
07:47I was encouraged by the office.
07:49And I had people from the office come up, and I still remember it.
07:53I'll never forget it.
07:54They said, have you looked into some of that creatine the boys are on?
07:58Because at the time, creatine was a big drug for years leading up to that.
08:07So it was kind of like a code word.
08:08And I remember going and asking some of the boys.
08:10I was like, this is what they told me.
08:12Am I hearing what I think I'm hearing?
08:15And they were like, yeah.
08:17And at that point, found a doctor.
08:20And it was a doctor a lot of the other guys were using.
08:24And like I said, we got some good stuff.
08:27It was good.
08:27And by the term good stuff, it just wasn't veterinary grade.
08:32It was human grade.
08:33But there was never a time I was ever worried about failing a drug test.
08:38In fact, I failed a couple of drug tests and was just told,
08:45don't let it get out of control.
08:47Trust me.
08:48At 47, I realize I'm probably going to be, that bill's come and due.
08:55I've accepted it.
08:55But again, there's nothing I would change.
08:59I did what I did.
09:01I own my baggage.
09:03And I'm willing to accept the good and the bad that comes with it.
09:10In wrestling, there's a before Chris Benoit incident and after.
09:14And I was there at a time before.
09:17Chris was one of those guys that was backstage.
09:19And he was just aggressive.
09:22And you just knew he was a guy not to be messed with.
09:27But if you had his respect, that was a good place to be.
09:30Because Chris was going to give you, he was going to help you if you needed it.
09:34But if you're not familiar, Chris, I mean, I think it was 2007.
09:38I mean, he strangled his son and his wife and then ended his own life.
09:45And one of the most tragic just incidents,
09:49and I'm not even going to say that wrestling ever endured,
09:52that just society had to endure.
09:55And for a minute, there's no part of me that you can make me believe
09:59that steroids played any role in it.
10:02I do believe CTE and head trauma led to his going off the deep end,
10:10or at least assisted in it.
10:12And everybody can say that they saw warning signs.
10:19Hindsight's always 20-20.
10:21Once the Chris Benoit incidents happened, a lot of things changed.
10:26And a lot of things changed for the good.
10:28Anytime you can keep guys healthier or longer,
10:33I'm not going to say it's a bad thing.
10:35And if you notice, you don't see the amount of wrestler deaths
10:41now like you used to.
10:42So it was a good change.
10:50If teachers made the money that teachers should make,
10:53I probably would have never left.
10:54I loved it.
10:55I loved the kids.
10:56I loved everything about teaching.
10:59And in fact, I was a high school baseball coach.
11:02And my first year, and my second year, I
11:05wasn't even going to coach because it took time away from the teaching.
11:10I really, really enjoyed it.
11:12And it was during my second year of teaching that I found out.
11:16And one fateful night on Monday Night Raw, I heard JR say,
11:21and I'll never forget it, he said, have you ever wanted to be a wrestler?
11:24And I felt, I literally felt like he was talking to me.
11:27At the time, the WWF was partnering up with MTV.
11:32And this is 2001, the infancy of reality shows.
11:37They were offering one thing, and that was the chance, the opportunity
11:40to sign a contract with the WWF.
11:43And to be perfectly honest with you, that's all the coaxing I needed.
11:47Well, you actually had to make a hard copy videotape.
11:52And I still remember, we filmed this tape, and it is atrocious.
11:57It's literally cringeworthy.
11:58I see it occasionally.
12:00And I wish it was at the bottom of the sea, locked in a case
12:05that no one could ever see it again.
12:07It's atrocious.
12:09But my buddy that I moved out to Oregon with,
12:12we filmed it as a joke on our way to the gym.
12:15We were literally leaving to go to the gym.
12:17But we sent it in, and I sent it in with, nothing's going to come of this.
12:23Why can't you think something, anything's going to come of this?
12:26But a couple weeks later, I would find out
12:29that there was something coming from it.
12:32I think I had about a week or two weeks until I
12:36had to get myself to New York, to the world at the time, WWF New York.
12:42And they were going to be having auditions.
12:44Well, I'd never been to New York.
12:46I'd never stepped foot in the Big Apple.
12:50And I was nervous, to say the least.
12:55But I knew, why not?
12:56Give it a shot.
12:57If nothing else, I'll have a good story.
13:00Not thinking for a second that I would get picked for the show.
13:03I remember they had a big, heavy bag laying on there.
13:07They would have people jump back and forth.
13:09And then, as soon as you would get done with your cattle stinks,
13:11they would have you cut a promo.
13:13And I had my promo completely memorized.
13:16I was going to kill it.
13:17My promo was actually going to be a good one.
13:20And before I started, as soon as I got done with my jumping jacks or whatever,
13:24there was the diva, Jacqueline.
13:28And I caught eyes with Jackie.
13:31And I just threw a wink, thinking nothing of it.
13:37And that shut down the entire panel.
13:40They couldn't believe I had the audacity to wink at one of them.
13:44And I didn't get to give my promo at that point.
13:47At that point, that didn't give any of the promo.
13:51I had Taz giving it to me.
13:53I had Al Snow asking me, what are you doing?
13:58And I had Jackie smiling.
14:00But I still, and I will always believe, that is what got me on the show.
14:06Just because that showed an extension of,
14:10they're not necessarily looking for a character that you think you are.
14:15They're looking for someone that they can pull out of you.
14:20And by showing them just that, that small little bit of charisma
14:25or whatever at the time, they knew it was something that they could work with.
14:30The first time I saw Vince, he came by Trax, the training facility.
14:44We didn't meet him, to get to meet him, to talk to him that day.
14:48We might have shook his hands.
14:50But the first time I met him, met him, it was towards the tail end of Tough Enough.
14:54They took us to his office in Titan Towers.
14:58I'm just, you want to talk about intimidating.
15:01You're walking at the top floor, down this hallway,
15:04and you know you're leading towards Vince's office.
15:07It's just, how do I end up here?
15:11And I remember distinctly thinking, he's not near as bad,
15:18or not near as intimidating as people make him out.
15:22He was warm.
15:23He was inviting.
15:23He was very cordial.
15:26He smiled a lot.
15:27And he was easy to talk to.
15:31I mean, things would change once on the road,
15:33and once you're making money for Vince, or once you're costing him money.
15:40Now, how could you cost him money?
15:43If you're taking a slot, and you're not getting a pop out of people,
15:47you don't have these people reacting.
15:50They're on their phone, rather than watching you work.
15:53If you're not a draw, if people aren't paying money
15:55to come watch you do what you do, you're costing Vince money.
15:59Because every time he sends those trucks out to put on a show,
16:03every time he rents a venue, every time he pays somebody
16:09to be on their television, that's money that he
16:12expects to be getting back in the form of your entertainment.
16:17So I found out really quickly, Vince viewed us as commodities.
16:23It disappoints me that people believe, once they have a certain amount of money
16:27or a certain level of power, that they can mistreat or abuse and use people.
16:35That said, I don't know.
16:38I don't know the ins and outs.
16:40I don't know what is true.
16:42I don't know what was consensual.
16:45And I do trust the fact that there is a judicial system in this country that
16:51hopefully will finally get to some answers.
16:56And I want whatever is coming to the guilty party to come to them.
17:07I think we have the iceberg of the story so far.
17:10I think we're seeing the tip of it and the body of it
17:13that is still yet to be revealed.
17:17I think it's going to be drastic.
17:19I think more people are going to be uncovered.
17:22I think more names are going to be put out.
17:25And we're probably going to read, if somehow possible,
17:28even more difficult facts about the case.
17:41Wrestlers court is, it was a fun way on the road to just keep people accountable.
17:46I mean, and I've seen people go to court for, usually it's a dumb reason.
17:52But the whole time somebody's going to a wrestler's court,
17:55and it's actually they try to hold it as a court session.
17:58We always, during my time, Undertaker was the guy who was leading it.
18:03And you're never going to meet anybody in a wrestling locker room that
18:06has more respect attached to them or to their brand
18:10or to just who they are than the Undertaker.
18:13If somebody finds themselves in wrestlers court, 99% of the time
18:17they're guilty of whatever people said they're guilty of.
18:20And they're trying to make a point.
18:25They're trying to prove a point to people.
18:27They're trying to tell them, hey, this happened.
18:31Don't let it happen again.
18:32Teddy found himself in wrestlers court.
18:36This was back when male enhancement products was just hitting the markets.
18:42And Teddy found, sure, through a doctor, found himself with free Viagra.
18:50And to help the boys, he was giving them Viagra.
18:53But he was charging the boys.
18:55So he was making 100% profit off something he was getting for free.
19:00And this got out.
19:02The boys found out, wait a minute, you're charging us
19:04and then you're getting it for free?
19:06And it's, again, just fun, fun way to tell them, yeah,
19:12just a fun way to tell them, yeah, we're on to you.
19:15And that's messed up.
19:17You're charging us.
19:19Typical penalty was whatever the two guys who were trying the case,
19:26whatever they were drinking, just bring a bottle of it or two.
19:31Yeah, typical penalty was just something fun of that nature.
19:42There's two ways to get color.
19:43And by getting color, I mean, you believe.
19:46There is gigging.
19:48And you might make a razor blade.
19:52I would always make it and put it in my, I would tape my wrist.
19:56I would always put it in my tape job.
19:57And then when it was time to get color, I would, boom,
20:01take the razor blade out, knowing that my opponent is
20:04going to have the ref off.
20:07And basically, he's taking the action to another side of the ring
20:12and making a production about everybody watch over here
20:16so that right here, I could hit and get my color or start bleeding.
20:22Second way to get color is the hard way.
20:24And that is when you get hit and you're not supposed to get color
20:28or you're not supposed to start bleeding, and you do.
20:31And if you wrestle long enough, it will happen.
20:34Trust me, it will happen.
20:35You won't expect to get color.
20:39But most of the time, when you get color the hard way, you run with it.
20:44Because, heck, any time you bleed, it looks more real.
20:48So if you get, I remember I got hit with a trash can lid.
20:52And the side of it cut my head.
20:56While I was trying to drive my head into the mat
20:58to force more blood out at that point, I'm bleeding already.
21:02Might as well try to make it look as good as possible.
21:10I was a bad guy.
21:11To this day, I only want to wrestle as a bad guy.
21:14But fans are known as marks just because they
21:19are the target of who we're trying to put a show on,
21:24who we're trying to suspend their belief for that limited time
21:27that we're out there.
21:28We exploit the marks in several ways, whether it's,
21:34I remember I used to go to the ring.
21:36And as a heel, I would love when I was walking to the ring
21:41and I would see a couple, a guy and a girl.
21:45Because I would always beeline over to them.
21:48And I would look at the girl and maybe wink at her or smile at her,
21:52knowing I'm pissing him off.
21:55I would walk away and just laugh and just giggle.
22:00That's how we can exploit the fans.
22:02I've been scared before in my life.
22:05I've been in sporting events.
22:07I've been in, I've had to speak in front of people.
22:11I've been in just high pressured moments.
22:14But nothing compares to how I felt hours before going out
22:21for my first wrestling match on SmackDown against Taz.
22:23I mean, you look like pajamas.
22:25I mean, I was in my pajamas.
22:26I was in my pajamas.
22:27I was in my pajamas.
22:28I was in my pajamas.
22:29I was in my pajamas.
22:30I mean, you look like pajamas.
22:32I think it was track pants.
22:34I think I had like Nikes on.
22:35At the point at the time, I didn't have wrestling gear.
22:37But that was part of the plan.
22:40You know, they wanted it to look like this is the Tough Enough kid.
22:43He didn't have time to go get wrestling gear yet.
22:45The moment I got backstage and knew that my match won was in the books
22:50and I had Vince McMahon and I had everybody back there that was
22:58what wrestling was at the time, you know, standing up and telling me,
23:02good job, and more importantly, I had Taz telling me, you did a good job.
23:07But at that moment, I knew I had made the right decision.
23:16In the Royal Rumble 2002, The Undertaker, The Phenom, I mean,
23:21the fact that he was allowing me to eliminate him from the Royal Rumble.
23:27So in this Rumble, there was a period of time
23:31when I was the only legitimate participant that
23:37was still fighting in this Rumble.
23:42And I'm as green, I'm as much of a rookie as you can be.
23:47The spot was he had just finished eliminating the Hardy Boys
23:51and he had gotten rid of Lita.
23:53And my music hits, I come out.
23:56He immediately dispatches of me.
24:00And at a moment of weakness, when his back is turned,
24:04I threw and hit a dropkick, which the dropkick was a move I found out
24:08early in Tough Enough that was, I still remember,
24:11I threw my first three dropkicks and Al Snow was like, that's your move.
24:14Just because I could jump really good at the time.
24:17To this day, there's not many things that I don't think I could probably redo.
24:22I could probably redo everything a little bit better
24:24if you give me a second chance at it.
24:27This is the one thing that, if given the opportunity,
24:31I wouldn't want to change a thing about it.
24:33It was perfect.
24:34I was actually really kicking him.
24:37And his momentum and the way he took the bump out of the ring,
24:41it was perfect.
24:44And then him coming up and just the look of disdain and surprise on his face.
24:52I see why people, to this day still, bring it up.
24:55It was a great spot.
24:57And it was an iconic moment that I'm thankful that I had.
25:02I know I wouldn't have had the career I had without it.
25:05And I'm still grateful to Mark for giving me the opportunity.
25:10He didn't have to.
25:17The day that I got the call that my services would no longer be requested,
25:24they gave me the reasons why.
25:25I wasn't progressing in ring the way that they had hoped.
25:29And I couldn't argue with them.
25:31They were 100% right.
25:33Do I think I could have gotten to the level they wanted?
25:35I mean, obviously, I think I could have.
25:37But I understand why they were making that decision,
25:43heading in that direction.
25:46The hardest part about that was, and I remember probably two or three
25:53days just not leaving my house, not even go to the gym.
25:57And it was because I was scared for the longest time.
26:02For five years, I'd been known as Maven the wrestler.
26:05If I went anywhere, anybody was introducing me to anybody.
26:10Oh, that's Maven, that's the wrestler.
26:14Or somebody would come up and see me.
26:16I'd be out in the bar or whatever.
26:18You're that wrestler.
26:19And just having that identity, I loved it.
26:23It was great.
26:24I loved being known as that.
26:26And knowing that that was not only being taken away from me,
26:30but being snatched from me, it was tough to deal with.
26:35And it was hard knowing that I was going to have to rebuild
26:41who I viewed myself as.
26:43In time, I would realize, I'm always going to be Maven the wrestler.
26:47I'll never step foot in another wrestling ring.
26:49Doesn't matter.
26:51People are still going to view me as Maven the wrestler.
26:55But I had to get to the point to where I was OK with not
27:01being that guy anymore.
27:09Today, I deal with daily headaches, whether it be my car,
27:16whether it be my desk at work, whether it be my house,
27:20whether it be my bag I walked into this studio with.
27:23I have headache medicine with me in all those locations.
27:27I get headaches every day.
27:29And I'm not a doctor, but I realize it was probably
27:33due to head trauma, maybe some unrecorded concussions that I had.
27:38I wake up every morning.
27:42And for the first 10 to 20 minutes that I'm walking around,
27:46I'm hunched over.
27:48And it looks like I was in a minor car accident the day before.
27:53And that's just life.
27:55That's going to be the way I am the rest of my life.
27:59I'm going to deal with back and neck pain for the rest of my life.
28:03About seven years ago, I moved to a stretching routine that I do every day.
28:12And I take a good hour of my day every night at the end of my day.
28:17And I get down on my floor, and I stretch every night.
28:22And I have found that that helps.
28:25And that helps just with my back, with my neck, with everything.
28:29Oh my gosh, I had been taking pain medications since my time in the WWE.
28:35And I never had a problem getting them.
28:39It was funny that I never had to buy an illegal drug ever.
28:44I would just go to too many doctors.
28:48And any time I would go to a doctor and show them my list of injuries,
28:53they were all too happy to oblige.
28:56And I was probably taking, I'd say, probably 50 Percocets a day.
29:01And then at night, I was mixing somas with Ambien to go to sleep.
29:08And I was probably taking three Ambien and maybe three somas to go to sleep.
29:14I wasn't taking it anymore because I wanted to, because it was fun.
29:18I was taking it because I needed it.
29:20Because in order to get up and live a normal life, that's what I needed.
29:25Now, I went to rehab before.
29:27I went to rehab in 2007.
29:29And recognizing the path I was going down, it was just unsuccessful.
29:35And when everything happened in 2012, I mean, I just, I lost everything.
29:44I lost my house.
29:44My house was foreclosed on.
29:47I tried to keep afloat as long as I could.
29:50But the HSN job, that was gone.
29:55And yeah, I had to move.
29:57I moved from Florida to New York.
29:58And when most people say they're starting from scratch, I really did it.
30:02And I had to humble myself.
30:05I had to start and go back to bouncing.
30:10And yeah, I had to get myself back up to where I am now.
30:14And it took some time.
30:22I have a weird family structure.
30:25And the reason I say weird, my birth mother,
30:31and I'll explain to you why I'm categorizing her as my birth mother.
30:36I never knew my birth father.
30:37My birth mother passed away when I was two years old.
30:40She committed suicide the day after Christmas in 1978.
30:46And not knowing my birth father, that left me almost up in the air.
30:52Who was going to take me?
30:53Well, my mom's brother and his wife, my aunt and uncle, they had,
31:01I don't know if they wanted me, but they were in line.
31:05And the lady that would become my mother, I have pictures of her
31:11even before she was my mother, when she was my aunt,
31:15of her just bathing me, taking me.
31:18She always had a love for me.
31:22So when the opportunity arose where I needed a family, she was quick to step in.
31:28And at two years old, I have no memory of that time.
31:33So that's always been mom and dad.
31:36Growing up, I was the kid that was staying up till all hours of the night.
31:40And the only really WWF we would watch at the time was Saturday night's main event,
31:45which would come on, I still remember, at 11.30.
31:48It would stay on till about 1 o'clock, and then at 1 o'clock,
31:51NWA would go from 1 to 2.
31:53That was every Saturday night I would watch.
31:56The first match I ever went to was in the Richmond Coliseum.
32:00I was probably seven or eight years old.
32:01We're looking at 1985-ish.
32:05Ric Flair headlined against Magnum TA in the main event.
32:09And probably 17 years later, I would wrestle Ric Flair in Dallas.
32:16And I still remember watching Flair come to the ring, and
32:20I'm standing in the ring already.
32:22And the fact that I went from being that fan that was in the audience to
32:27I'm now getting ready to wrestle the guy I went to my first match to watch.
32:32It was, I mean, it was surreal.
32:34And I still remember the referee, Mike Chioda, had to come up and
32:37whisper in my ear, stop being a fan.
32:40And cuz I'm literally just sitting there in awe watching Ric Flair
32:44come to the ring.
32:45And what's even crazier is going to Richmond Coliseum to see my first
32:51wrestling match, I would one day wrestle in that same arena for
32:55the heavyweight championship against Chris Jericho.
32:58So it just goes to show, life truly does go full circle.
33:02Now I work, I love what I do.
33:05I work for a company here in the city called Tip Top Capital.
33:10We are a capital firm, we help companies that can't get bank funding.
33:15We are kind of a middle man to helping them find
33:20alternative sources of funding to help them keep their doors open.
33:25And on the side, I have a small little YouTube channel that I've had
33:29a little bit of success with that I'm having a blast with.
33:32I don't know how long that train's gonna be on the tracks, but
33:37I'm gonna ride it as long as it'll let me.
33:39I'm glad that my generation was 20 years ago,
33:43because what these guys do now, I couldn't do.
33:47They've taken it to a step just beyond
33:52what even I thought was possible in the ring.
33:55They're so talented now.
33:58I'm glad my time was years ago, and
34:01the craziest moves I had to do was just a missile drop kick.
34:04I'm glad my time was years ago, and
34:10the craziest moves I had to do was just a missile drop kick.