Friday Night Live 1 November 2024
In this episode of "Friday Night Live," Stefan Molyneux discusses consciousness and the disconnect between perception and reality, using metaphors of screens to illustrate his points. He critiques mainstream media narratives leading up to the U.S. election and examines societal influences on personal beliefs. Molyneux emphasizes the challenges of communicating truth in a world filled with shared illusions and addresses modern family's disconnection from reality due to digital experiences. He concludes with a call for self-awareness and rational discourse to navigate life's complexities.
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In this episode of "Friday Night Live," Stefan Molyneux discusses consciousness and the disconnect between perception and reality, using metaphors of screens to illustrate his points. He critiques mainstream media narratives leading up to the U.S. election and examines societal influences on personal beliefs. Molyneux emphasizes the challenges of communicating truth in a world filled with shared illusions and addresses modern family's disconnection from reality due to digital experiences. He concludes with a call for self-awareness and rational discourse to navigate life's complexities.
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00:00:00Hello, hello welcome a pinch-punch first of the month. It is the first of November 2025 and
00:00:07Welcome to your Friday night live. I've got some great stuff for you tonight
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00:00:20Tim just finished listening to the Wednesday night show and jumped straight into this. Well that indicates you were doing something
00:00:26between
00:00:28Wednesday and today which did not involve listening to my show so
00:00:35Benedictions forgiveness and that's fine. It's fine. I don't care. It's fine. All right, so
00:00:43Let's get to questions comments issues and challenges. Welcome to the people on a rumble. Welcome to the people on locals
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00:01:09business nonsense
00:01:11While I am waiting and cooking for your questions to arise. I
00:01:16Wonder if I can share with you and I'm not kidding about this an extremely
00:01:21Dangerous idea
00:01:25Can I share with you
00:01:29An extremely
00:01:33Dangerous idea something which gooses even me
00:01:40Without any further ado I
00:01:43Was at a famous market. Oh
00:01:46Gosh, when was that yesterday? Yes. I went to a farmer's market
00:01:51Because I am a spread-eagled man whore for sourdough. That is
00:01:57That is just the way
00:01:59That it is. So every now and then I will slither off like a junkie
00:02:04Scratching at his bloody arm to pick me up
00:02:08some ball sack of the Zeus gods of good taste called
00:02:13Sourdough
00:02:17Sourdough is like a dangerous woman you love it
00:02:21And it might love you back or it might give you the kind of aftertaste
00:02:25Where you have been a rimming Satan's ass in a fart storm, but
00:02:31This was good sourdough little hint of butter. Oh
00:02:35So good, so good. So I was at a
00:02:41Farmer's market with my wife and my daughter and we had a lovely time. I like haggling
00:02:46I like chatting with everyone on the planet yourselves included and
00:02:50When I was walking out of the main building
00:02:53there's a bunch of different buildings and so on and I was walking out of the main building and
00:02:58An idea that has struck me since I was a kid, which is dangerous as fuck
00:03:04I'm not gonna kid you about this. It's dangerous as fuck
00:03:10It's hit me I'm gonna share it with you
00:03:14But don't mess with it. I'm gonna share it with you, but do not mess with it
00:03:20Do not dwell upon it
00:03:22But it can be healthy
00:03:25But do not dwell on it I warn you ahead of time do not dwell on it
00:03:29All right. So the idea goes something like this
00:03:33I was pushing out the doors of the building
00:03:37in order to go into the courtyard in order to get to the next building and
00:03:42I was suddenly struck by India idea that I was first struck with at the age of five or six years old where I'm like
00:03:49None of this is real
00:03:55I know this sounds odd. I'm an empiricist. I believe in objective reality
00:03:59But none of this is real. See let me give you an example, right?
00:04:06I'm touching my nose for those who are just listening. I'm touching my nose. I feel the touch of my finger on my nose
00:04:11I feel the touch of my nose on my finger
00:04:13I'm touching my nose except I'm not because I am NOT my finger and I am NOT my nose. I am my brain
00:04:20And my brain is doing none of these things
00:04:23My brain is not talking to you
00:04:24my brain is using giant levers of neurological systems to move my larynx and my tongue and my lips I
00:04:34Am looking at a camera, but I am NOT looking at a camera because my brain is as blind as a fucking bat
00:04:44My brain is as blind as alphabet agencies looking for the origins of code
00:04:50My brain can't see anything my brain can't touch anything
00:04:55My brain is like a
00:04:58Mute deaf blind Helen Keller King trapped
00:05:06In a decaying
00:05:09Castle the only messages from the world
00:05:14Are what uncertain courtiers trace in the palm of my hand I
00:05:20Look at a screen
00:05:21I'm looking at the screen right now to see the questions
00:05:25But I'm looking at two screens because my brain can't see anything my brain can only receive and decode the impulses from
00:05:32Optic nerve nervous system and so on so there are two screens
00:05:37My brain is not looking at reality. It is looking at a screen
00:05:41So if you have a VR helmet right so let's say the quest 3
00:05:45So the quest 3 has what's called pass-through in that you can't see
00:05:52outside
00:05:54But there are cameras that can see outside and then present you the information on the inside
00:05:59So you're looking at a screen not at reality
00:06:01But you're looking at two screens because what the quest 3 is doing and having cameras that then assemble the information for your eyes
00:06:07Your eyes are doing to your brain. We are always one screen removed
00:06:12you
00:06:14You're looking at a movie you're looking at two
00:06:17Recreations let's say you're watching a historical recreation. You are looking at two recreations
00:06:25One the recreation of the
00:06:29Gettysburg Address or
00:06:32Gettysburg Address if you know how to speak English, right
00:06:35So some actor is recreating it Daniel Day-Lewis or the actor is recreating it
00:06:40Genocidal Lincoln is in a house and you're looking at a simulation and a recreation and and
00:06:48What you're looking at on the screen is a simulation and a recreation and
00:06:52The screen is a simulation and a recreation of the actors long dispersed
00:06:56That's three two levels three layers is everything you see is a simulation and a recreation, right?
00:07:04I hold up the pen. I feel the pen
00:07:09But my brain is feeling nothing. My brain is simply interpreting electrical signals from a nervous system and
00:07:16Whatever electrical systems from my optic nerve
00:07:24I can't see anything. I can't hear anything. I can't touch anything. I can't smell anything
00:07:29I can't taste anything the tongue and the brain are two separate organs. I
00:07:35Know nothing, but what I'm informed of
00:07:38By the courtiers of the nervous system, I'm a blind deaf dumb tasteless smellless
00:07:46Decaying organ trapped in a skull castle
00:07:52And
00:07:53Informed of what goes on outside in the world. I cannot see touch taste smell or hear
00:07:58by uncertain courtiers of
00:08:01electricity
00:08:09I kissed my wife. Nope
00:08:13Brains cannot kiss. I am my brain not my lips
00:08:17Right, you get an organ transplant. You don't change who you are. That's the brain transplant
00:08:26I do not kiss my wife
00:08:33Now
00:08:35Don't do this mental exercise when you're driving
00:08:38but
00:08:40You can go down this rabbit hole and what a rabbit hole it is and it can make you mad
00:08:48Because we have to suspend the disbelief
00:08:53And say I
00:08:55am
00:08:57Talking to you I'm looking at a screen I am this it's like nope
00:09:00You're not because you your brain and your brain can't do any of that stuff
00:09:06Any of that stuff
00:09:19I'm afraid
00:09:21Is it more your gut that's your second brain? It's your gut that's afraid. It's your fight-or-flight nervous system
00:09:27You say I see but you don't
00:09:36So I
00:09:38Have had these I mean that they're not even odd thoughts. They're accurate thoughts
00:09:43But you can't stay there
00:09:45You can't stay there and say I'm in a VR skull helmet
00:09:50With information piped into me through the nervous system
00:09:54You can't stay there because it's too fucking weird. However, true it is
00:10:00It's kind of like oh, I'm sitting here still it's like no
00:10:03I'm rocketing through the universe at hundreds of thousands of kilometers per second as
00:10:07the Sun goes the earth goes around the Sun the Sun goes around the
00:10:13Galaxy and galaxy spins along like
00:10:16you can't
00:10:17Think of yourself, you know those streamers those those little
00:10:22Ballet streamers that they have in gymnastics and so on. Well, that's you you're just streaming along, right?
00:10:26I'm literally like a smear and a smudge
00:10:29rocketing through space and time
00:10:32No fixed address only momentum. I
00:10:37Mean when I was a kid, I remember thinking how the hell do Australians live knowing that they're on the bottom?
00:10:44I
00:10:47Mean I wasn't I knew enough about gravity that they weren't gonna fall off but it's like
00:10:52You're on the scrotum and you're looking at are am I the whole package the brain the body the functions and everything in between well
00:11:00the ego is
00:11:02The brain now we can drop the brain down to the unconscious
00:11:07Of course, we can drop the brain to some degree down the second guy like you have a gut which philosophers have done a very bad
00:11:13Job of integrating right this sort of Apollonian Apollonian Dionysian thing
00:11:18but
00:11:19There's a second brain down in your gut gut instinct gut sense and and like you literally have neurons down there like it's a second brain
00:11:27So but our gut senses tend to be common to all humanity
00:11:33We know if somehow somehow someone could wire up
00:11:38Fantastic eyeballs to everything that you were doing like your optic nerve and and like this is perfectly to pop them out pop them in
00:11:45Out vile jelly in with the out with the old in with the new you'd still be the same person
00:11:49I mean your vision would be like my vision. It's not bad, right? I mean, I'm pushing 60 and and so on, right?
00:11:53It's not bad. But you know, I do sort of miss the effortless. No glasses like I was walking the other day
00:11:59in in in the mist with my glasses on it's just like
00:12:04Mist
00:12:05Foggy foggy foggy, right didn't need to worry about that quite as much when I could just blink and make it go away with my
00:12:11youthful fresh brand spanking new eyeballs
00:12:15But you are your brain that which is most unique about you isn't frankly is in your neofrontal cortex, right?
00:12:26My third brain says someone is between my legs I make the best decisions with that one. No. No, I'm not talking about a micro brain
00:12:33boom, so
00:12:37You are your brain and
00:12:39We interact with the world
00:12:42through electrical recreations of that which is
00:12:48We interact with the world through electrical
00:12:52biochemical
00:12:54recreations of that which is
00:13:04You
00:13:09Thinking with your balls. Well, that's just nuts
00:13:14See you may have thought that was a bad joke and you'd be right
00:13:20But if you sit in this perspective for a while
00:13:23That everything you perceive is an electrical recreation of that which you cannot directly perceive
00:13:28The brain doesn't send a pseudopod out and feeling things, right? The brain doesn't feel anything directly
00:13:33In fact the pain the brain as far as I understand it has no
00:13:36No receptors at all. You can cut into the brain feels nothing because what's the point like once something's in your brain?
00:13:41That's really not much point. Well, you you don't want to get that you're done, right?
00:13:44There's no point having pain receptors in the brain once something's through your skull. You're dead, man
00:13:54So
00:13:55This is a true perspective
00:13:58But you don't want to fuck with it
00:14:00You can play around with it a little bit like I that's interesting
00:14:03Yeah
00:14:03I am a kind of in a skull prison and then you have to suspend disbelief and and deal with reality as reality because of
00:14:08course your
00:14:09senses and all of the processing and the nerves and the optics that all designed to
00:14:13Accurately recreate reality so you can throw a spear and get some food I get all of that, right?
00:14:20It's like I'm hungry no, you're not
00:14:23Brain pain, I guess the well, I guess no, it's it's mostly hunger comes from the belly right and it comes from the stomach
00:14:31I'm hungry. So I'm going to eat
00:14:37The you never touches reality
00:14:43The decaying King never leaves the skull castle while it's alive, of course
00:14:51It can only rely on messengers
00:15:00So I'm really really struck by and and you know as we don't have to get into too many details because we all know
00:15:06What's being talked about?
00:15:08but
00:15:11The amount of truly staggering
00:15:16Pathological
00:15:17falsehood
00:15:19Leading up to what is the election in four days the u.s. Election and a massively consequential election. No question
00:15:26No question
00:15:29Because I really I
00:15:33Can't help but just see this cavalcade of
00:15:40Pathological falsehoods coming off the media
00:15:49Pathological falsehoods coming off the memory. There's one now. What was it? Trump was saying that Liz Cheney's a war hawk and
00:15:56And
00:15:57She'd have she'd sing a different tune about wanting to go to war if she was actually in the front lines with people shooting
00:16:02At her and right she was you know, that's a fairly fairly standard
00:16:07Idea right that it's very easy to go to war
00:16:09Right generals sat and the lions on the map moved from side to side from the old Pink Floyd song from Dark Side of the Moon
00:16:21The idea that it's
00:16:23It's chess right that it's easy to
00:16:28Run a war if you're not out there getting shot. It's a lot easier to want to go to war
00:16:34If you're not getting shot at yourself, but this is why the soldiers
00:16:40Generally want peace but the diplomats and the bankers generally want war
00:16:44You
00:16:50But of course him saying she'd sing a different tune about war if she was getting shot at
00:16:57Trump now wants
00:16:58his political
00:17:00Opponents assassin like it just completes
00:17:03Right, and I was really sort of thinking about over the last week like okay, but what is the mechanism by which?
00:17:10You know, I think it was CNN to their credit
00:17:12They made this claim and then they played the clip not in its full context
00:17:16But in its partial context to the point where you could see that he wasn't talking about shooting someone
00:17:20He was talking about if they were in as much danger as they want to put the troops in
00:17:24they would
00:17:26You
00:17:34They would sing a different song sure that's not complicated, right?
00:17:39Joe Rogan stands for nothing. Unlike dr. Phil who actually endorses Trump. No, no, no, no, that's not true
00:17:44No, Joe Rogan stands for whatever gets him the hundred mil, right? I mean, I think that's fairly clear
00:17:49but I mean, he's a he's a comedian and
00:17:52MMA guy and
00:17:54I mean, what what what foundational principles is he gonna have?
00:18:00He's about as good at philosophy as I would be at mixed martial arts
00:18:09So how is it that people are able to
00:18:18And this is gonna blow your mind right
00:18:19But how is it that a people are able to live in such staggering falsehoods?
00:18:25And I think it's a switch
00:18:32I think what they do is they make the media their final
00:18:40Screen
00:18:42Right, so I'm looking at a screen
00:18:44Right. I'm looking at the screen that I'm running the show off. I'm looking at the screen
00:18:48That's the second screen
00:18:50The last screen is what my optic nerves and my like recreation. That's the final screen. The final screen is
00:18:57What directly sends messages to your brain, right?
00:18:59This monitor is not sending directly messages to my brain the light waves are bouncing off
00:19:03They're hitting my or coming out of hitting my eyeballs and then my eyeballs. Oh
00:19:07The optic nerve wiring directly into the optic center of my brain. That's the final screen is your eyes
00:19:12Well, you know what I mean, right?
00:19:14You
00:19:16So I think the way
00:19:19That you end up believing lies is you make
00:19:24Somebody else's propaganda your final screen
00:19:31So not what to Trump actually say but what do people say Trump said that's your final screen you have no defenses after that
00:19:41Right if I see something that looks impossible with my eyes
00:19:45I have to accept that I'm seeing it and either something is really wrong with my optic system and my
00:19:51Reality processing equipment or I'm seeing something that just seems completely bizarre and impossible, right?
00:19:56So when the indigenous population of North America saw the Santa Maria and all of this like sailing up
00:20:01They're like this can't be possible, but it is it's real right and then the bank sticks and the run of rent
00:20:07It doesn't seem
00:20:10You
00:20:11To be possible, but it's real my space aliens land tomorrow
00:20:15right and they walk on air and they
00:20:19Can do amazing things
00:20:23Then
00:20:24We say well it it seems impossible, but it is right you can touch them talk to them interact with them smell them
00:20:30Whatever, right? So they're real things in the real world. So what happens is
00:20:34You take the media screen and by that I mean social media TV radio
00:20:42Newsprint whatever right Kindle you you you make
00:20:48That screen your final screen if you look at it and
00:20:52People are saying well, this is what Trump said and he wants his political opponents shot, right?
00:20:57And and you're like, well, that's the final screen. That is like you've seen it directly yourself
00:21:04You
00:21:05Does this make I hope this makes sense? I hope this makes sense
00:21:10Because what I see let's say I had seen Trump like I don't know let's in some alternate universe
00:21:16I was at a Trump rally and Trump said
00:21:20What the media is accusing him of saying let's say I saw Trump
00:21:26Actually
00:21:28Say what they're accusing him of saying then I would say well, yes
00:21:31Okay, I saw it with my own two eyes
00:21:43So
00:21:45Nobody would be able to convince me
00:21:46Otherwise if I saw it with my own two eyes and let's say I'd recorded it or whatever it is
00:21:51like I'd saw it with my own two eyes Trump said these terrible things that they're accusing him of saying and
00:21:56And
00:21:58Nobody would be able to tell me well that didn't happen or that's not real or that's not true
00:22:01Like it would be like no. No, no, I was there right? I mean I was there. I know
00:22:10So if people substitute the judgment of others as their final screen
00:22:20Then you can't talk them out of things
00:22:26Because it's like trying to talk someone out of the direct empirical evidence of their own senses
00:22:35Right, it would be like me you and I are walking down the street
00:22:40It's sunny and warm and I say it's snowing and cold
00:22:46Right. You wouldn't even be able to reflect there would be no conversation between us
00:22:52Because your direct sense evidence and data
00:22:56Your clothes you're wearing. It's sunny and warm and you know that it's not just you're not having some hot flash. It's sunny and warm because
00:23:04It's bright can't see your cell phone you're in shorts everyone around you is in shorts, there's no
00:23:10Parkas, there's like no
00:23:13Snow plows, there's like nobody's slipping and sliding
00:23:16The
00:23:19Cars are driving
00:23:21The convertibles were there this the roofs are down on the convertibles or sunroofs are open windows are rolled down
00:23:27The beach boys are playing. Hey, Jude goes on and on ad infinitum, whatever, right?
00:23:36So if you and I walking down Venice Beach
00:23:42August 40 degree afternoon
00:23:44August 40 degree afternoon
00:23:48The
00:23:49heady
00:23:51Salt spray of people working out of the Venice Beach gym. I went there once or twice. I felt very stick-armed and
00:24:00And I turned to you and say
00:24:02God, it is freezing this blizzard this ice. The snow is freezing
00:24:08What debate could we have
00:24:14What debate could we have
00:24:20And this is why the left and the right can't talk to each other
00:24:26People have
00:24:28Propaganda as their final screen the one that's directly wired into their brain if someone says this is what happened
00:24:34Then this is what happened as surely as their senses dictate information to you in the present
00:24:39I know I'm sitting down in my studio
00:24:43If somebody tells me Steph
00:24:45You're in orbit around Betelgeuse. I'd be like no. No, I'm sitting
00:24:50right and
00:24:51To attempt to get me to change my mind about that which my sense data
00:24:57Perfectly presents to me would be an assault upon. My intelligence would be an assault upon my capacity to reason and to process
00:25:06Because if all of my sense evidence says the same thing
00:25:10And somebody tells me no, no, no, it's the opposite of what you think they would be saying I'm insane. I'm
00:25:18Psychotic I'm deluded. I'm whatever right? It would be an attack upon
00:25:22Reality processing itself now every organism
00:25:28Which has any conscious capacity will view an attack upon
00:25:33Its reality processing as a physical assault that endangers its life
00:25:40Right. If somebody tried to gouge your eyes out
00:25:41That would be a physical assault that would endanger your life
00:25:44And if somebody was able to successfully convince you that you were insane psychotic deluded fight club all kinds of
00:25:53Schizophrenic nonsense, right like there was an old scrubs episode where was it Brendan Fraser anyway
00:26:02This guy spent the episode interacting with his brother it turned out that he was at his brother's funeral right it was a fantasy, right
00:26:10You
00:26:12So if somebody is trying to get you to believe the opposite of the direct evidence of your senses they are
00:26:23Claiming
00:26:24That you are deluded and psychotic and therefore you have no capacity to survive on your own that you've lost your mind
00:26:31And you live in a world of waking dreams and delusions and therefore you are dangerous
00:26:35You need to be locked up. You can't survive
00:26:37You can't trust anything about yourself. Like that's hell. That's a complete nightmare, right?
00:26:46Because the one thing that generally seems to happen
00:26:53Is that when you confront
00:26:56Let's say the hard leftist, right
00:27:00When you like there was this woman who was walking around I think it was somewhere in California
00:27:05maybe LA or something like that Hollywood Boulevard and she had MAGA shoes on and this creepy old gray-haired guy was like I
00:27:13Hope you get our start, right?
00:27:18Well, why why would he be so aggressive
00:27:23If someone disagrees with them
00:27:28Because I would assume I don't know this guy in particular the mindset as a whole would be
00:27:33That
00:27:36You are telling me that
00:27:39my final screen is
00:27:43insane
00:27:44deluded psychotic
00:27:47fantastic and
00:27:50I'm insane
00:27:54That is incredibly volatile
00:27:59That is incredibly volatile
00:28:03I mean, can you imagine I mean imagine if I would wake up tomorrow and realize that I was in an asylum
00:28:09I'd never had a show and my wife and daughter didn't exist, right?
00:28:14That it was like that would just be crazy, right? That's the matrix. I'm plugging right and and well once you're on the medication
00:28:20You realize that you're actually a Jamaican nanny and not a bald white philosopher guy
00:28:33You
00:28:35Is it a bad argument to put sense data into question while using sense data to make the argument but I'm not doing that
00:28:40That's not what I'm talking about. I mean, of course it is, right?
00:28:43I mean you you have to affirm sense data. But what I'm saying is that if they have propaganda as their final
00:28:52Screen and you're saying there's a truth
00:28:56metric outside
00:28:59Your final screen you're saying
00:29:02You're crazy you've lost your mind you're mentally incompetent you're a psychotic you're deluded whatever, right?
00:29:08Right because everything that I'm doing tonight that the microphone the screen that right. It's all consistent. I had a
00:29:14lovely evening out with my family yesterday and then I chatted with my
00:29:20daughter this afternoon and I chatted with my wife over dinner. I'm doing the show and
00:29:25It's all consistent and you know works and so but if somebody were to say that's all deluded that would be
00:29:31I would view that as an act of hostility
00:29:32I would view that if somebody trying to dismantle my brain and have me no longer trust the evidence of my senses, right?
00:29:42I would view that as
00:29:45Somebody trying to get me to go mad not to have me go sane, but to have me go mad
00:29:55So the reason that people who are propagandized get so aggressive
00:30:01When you say what you think of as the final screen is not the final screen
00:30:10What you think of as the final screen is not the final screen
00:30:16They view that as an assault upon their sanity and their capacity for survival and their life as a whole
00:30:23and this is why they react with rage I
00:30:26I would get very angry at someone who tried to talk me out of
00:30:33Accepting the evidence and reality of my final screens right my five senses, right?
00:30:37Or you could include balance and hunger or whatever it is, right the major senses, right?
00:30:42Even people who try to talk me out of my gut
00:30:47Sense I view as
00:30:50dangerous
00:30:51That doesn't mean my gut sense is always right, but anyone who says well you can't trust your gut
00:30:55It's like well, I just assumed that they're trying to disarm my instincts for self-protection so they can exploit me
00:31:05I view it as an act of hostility to fuck with my final screen
00:31:14I view it as an act of
00:31:17Cognitive attempted cognitive assassination to fuck with my final screen
00:31:24Which is why the people who fuck with the evidence at the census I consider enemies in general
00:31:32All right, I just want to make sure we're because there's one more step to this
00:31:36I want to make sure that we're on the same page
00:31:38Just I'm gonna say why because I follow it, but I want to make sure that because it's a complex argument
00:31:43I don't want to make sure that we're all on the same
00:31:47General consensus, I'm not saying do you agree with that a hundred percent, but does the argument sort of follow so far?
00:31:54I'll check over and rumble as well
00:32:04Jay Dyer I debated that guy many years ago so you can look that up so it all makes sense right make sense
00:32:09You
00:32:13Okay, so then the question is why would people end up with other people's perspective as
00:32:24Their final screen not reality not reality, but other people's perspective as their final screen, why would they end up like?
00:32:35Monsieur Durban, thank you
00:32:40Why would people end up
00:32:44With the perspective that other people's opinions are the final screen
00:32:50Secondary gains, yes
00:32:52But that's a bit of a generic answer because they find some benefit it in some way
00:32:56Well, yeah that by definition right, but why people end up with that perspective?
00:33:04To survive yes, it means that
00:33:08They had to comply with anti-empirical demands
00:33:14From other people in order to survive you had to believe in the tribal delusions
00:33:20You had to believe in the godhood of the king you had to believe in the perfect authority of the witch doctor
00:33:25you had to believe that your
00:33:27Father was wise and noble and your mother was a saint, right?
00:33:32Your final screen was pleasing abusers
00:33:38Yeah, the parable of the invisible Apple that's right FDR 83 something like that a
00:33:46While ago
00:33:51Survival meant conforming with the madness of others
00:33:58My daughter made me laugh so hard today. I almost ruptured myself
00:34:01I
00:34:07Was talking about
00:34:09How some people take their parents seriously and some people don't and I was saying so when I said when my mom when I was
00:34:17a little kid
00:34:18My brother and I my mom, you know would say she hated us right and I never took that. I never took that seriously
00:34:26Right and
00:34:29She said oh, yeah, I could see that, you know, hey mom you hate me. Well, that sounds like a you problem. I
00:34:37Don't know why that just hit me. She's very funny
00:34:39I can't deliver it in the way that she does but that sounds like a you problem. It was just so
00:34:45Not arrogant exactly but so confident. Oh, you hate me. Well, it sounds like a you problem
00:34:49I just thought that was hilarious and true
00:34:52I did it wasn't my mom problem because I've done a lot of wrestling lately with people
00:34:56About
00:35:00Their parents neglected them and then they thought that they were empty and worthless and boring, right?
00:35:06Whereas, you know my mom hated me, but I just thought well that means you're crazy
00:35:11and of course as an outdoor kid right as an outdoor kid, I'm constantly having to deal with reality, right and
00:35:20Because I hung around with my brother's friends a lot of times who were older
00:35:23They were able to do more things than I was able to do. I remember at the age of five or so
00:35:27Climbing up a tree way higher than I wanted just to be brave and then I literally couldn't get any higher and I could not
00:35:32At all figure out how to get down and I was like 30 feet 40 feet off the ground
00:35:36It was really nerve-wracking right, but you can't like that's your final screen
00:35:40You can't if someone else says oh just jump like you can't make that person your final screen because the you're actually 30 or 40
00:35:47Feet in the air and if you jump you're gonna break your leg or die
00:35:54You
00:35:56My brother and I well, we weren't exactly addicts for television, but when my mother would go out
00:36:02She wouldn't want us watching TV late at night
00:36:03So she'd go out on some date and she'd lock the TV in her room
00:36:06But we could actually second or third story we would get out and crawl along the window
00:36:11Climb in and watch TV. I remember watching a boxing match and we climbed back out and
00:36:17You know 20 30 feet off the ground. It was completely retarded
00:36:21My mom would come home and she'd check the temperature of the TV set
00:36:26So we would
00:36:29Get something cold from the fridge and put it on top of the TV and then wipe it dry
00:36:33Because if I rules are pointless, yeah, you have to get people enrolled
00:36:40So
00:36:42We had dealt with actual factual reality
00:36:45Playing soccer right playing playing
00:36:48Rounders or later baseball and played a lot. I played tennis
00:36:52from the age of five onwards and
00:36:57There is no second screen
00:37:00Right tennis is
00:37:03Did you hit the ball? Did it stay in that right?
00:37:05Maybe there's a little argument about the edge cases or whatever. I see the ball way out, right?
00:37:08Oh you you serve into the net. That's a failure of a serve
00:37:15So for me that there's the war right and we all have this war as a kid, I think it's less
00:37:21Reality based now because kids are just screen screen screens opinions opinions opinions parental pleasure
00:37:26Appeasing teachers right because when we're kids we have to please our parents and we have to please our teachers
00:37:31now
00:37:33When I was a kid mom was crazy, but the teachers were somewhat sane now
00:37:38Mom's gone and the teachers are insane and corrupt beyond words, right?
00:37:43I mean the best way to corrupt a nation is to shorten the time horizons of children
00:37:49Well, you haven't got love to live kids. Ooh, I don't know global warming man. Whoo
00:37:55Trump's gonna end the world nuclear war live for today
00:37:59Don't defer gratification may not be a tomorrow
00:38:04And of the community the eschatology that the end of the world stuff with the more fundamentalist Christians and other groups
00:38:11Yeah, I don't plan kid what's the point of going to ask a girl out
00:38:14I mean, that's just gonna lead to dating getting engaged getting married having kids and then boom
00:38:19You're underwater or Satan strides the earth
00:38:22It's all over
00:38:26But the Democrats the Democrats who regularly call other people conspiracy theorists put out an ad about how well
00:38:35we
00:38:37We had a lot of great friends and pretty parties and then we didn't go out to vote because you know
00:38:41The system's rigged right and we didn't go out to vote and then Trump got elected and then after he died JD Vance became a dictator
00:38:48for 30 years and
00:38:51Set up concentration camps for homeless people and then and then Peter Thiel and Elon Musk
00:38:58Uploaded themselves to live forever as immortal AI gods. It's like Jesus man
00:39:04Yes, that's right
00:39:07Conspiracy theories are a challenge, aren't they? Oh my gosh. Yes, because we all know that
00:39:16Super party people are all on the right
00:39:19So when we're a kid we have to please people in order to survive and we also have to work within reality
00:39:25But we start by having to please people right because kids can't get their sustenance from reality. They have to get their sustenance from
00:39:31Their parents so you have to please your parents
00:39:32Parents have to please their bosses to please the gods have to please the witch doctors have to please the local
00:39:39paramilitary warlord assholes and
00:39:42So we all start off having to please people and hopefully we please people
00:39:47By pleasing reality, right?
00:39:51But
00:39:53People don't see much of reality anymore
00:39:56Neighborhood play is gone. Spontaneous
00:39:59Self-organized play is gone. It's screen screen screens propaganda propaganda propaganda and
00:40:06It everybody's been wrapped up in the matrix
00:40:14So much though I had trouble at times with having to do a lot of hard physical labor I
00:40:22I remember being up at a friend's a
00:40:25friend's landlords cottage one weekend
00:40:28we had to dig a new outhouse and it was like bug infested 40 degrees crazy muggy, and it was just like oh
00:40:35God, I was tempted to even drink from the lake which you know in some places is okay
00:40:39But that physical labor is like well, that's my last screen
00:40:44Whereas if you can lie and manipulate think of a think of a con man like a confidence trickster, right
00:40:51I mean Elizabeth Holmes wasn't out there robbing people blind
00:40:55With a gun, right? She was just out there massaging
00:40:59male egos with her youthful quasi prettiness and everybody's fantasy that
00:41:04Oh the next entrepreneurial female is exactly the same as Steve Jobs because she wears black turtlenecks copy paste
00:41:11so she stole
00:41:16Secondhand through creating a screen
00:41:22Absolutely impossible technological pro. I mean there were there were people employees of Theranos were actually out on reddit years before, right?
00:41:32So, I mean it's one of the reasons why it's tricky having women in investing especially young relatively pretty women because
00:41:40Men lose their fucking brains around this stuff. It's one of the reasons why male-only spaces are important so we can get some work done
00:41:47without tits on the brain
00:41:51You
00:41:53So, I think that we have a split and
00:41:58In general, it's a bit of a male-female split lots of overlap, of course, but it's a bit of a male-female split
00:42:04because men in general get their resources from
00:42:08Reality and therefore we can't have the final screen be anything other than actual empirical sense
00:42:15Data reality like we can't fuck with that, which is why I'm saying it's an interesting idea
00:42:19But you can't fuck with it too much because you've got to get out there and hunt the boar and
00:42:23And protect yourself from the the the lions and right build the shelters and like we can't have a second screen
00:42:31Sorry, we can't have a final screen
00:42:34Interfere with sense data, but women in general evolved to get their resources not
00:42:40From reality directly as a supplement for sure, but not from reality directly
00:42:45But
00:42:47women evolved to get their resources from
00:42:49The approval of others you had to have a man fall in love with you and commit to you
00:42:53You have to have the help of other women to raise your kids
00:42:58So it's all about
00:43:00consensus and
00:43:05Tribalism your primary focus is not on objective material empirical reality. Your final screen is the approval of others
00:43:12Now you say, ah, yes, but don't men work together for the hunt anymore. Yes, but we work together
00:43:19Not to manipulate opinions but to catch game dodge spears
00:43:26And defend against predators and people it's all
00:43:33Empirical final screen is sense data not final screen is other people's opinions
00:43:42Now
00:43:45The final screen in the mind is not sense data
00:43:56The final screen is reason
00:44:01Because sense data says you're on a flat world right but reason we know we're on a sphere, right?
00:44:05You
00:44:09So reason science empiricism, this is the final rule, right?
00:44:14There's the final screen and then there's the final rule
00:44:16The final screen is the last sense data that drills directly into brain and the final rule is reason
00:44:22Reason a reason arises from the consistency of sense data
00:44:32So when
00:44:36You say to someone whose final screen is other people's opinions and they have no reason
00:44:42You are attempted to gouge out what they perceive of as their organs of senses and sanity
00:44:48you're attempting to gouge out remove eviscerate destroy their organs of
00:44:53sense
00:44:55Sanity and reality which is why they get so insanely angry
00:44:59You
00:45:01They get as angry as you would if somebody was working really hard to convince you that you were
00:45:07Psychotic deranged deluded and insane when you were in fact saying healthy and rational you would view that as an assault upon you
00:45:18So when you see the level of violence and aggression, right
00:45:23coming out of the left, right the assassinations the
00:45:27That the riots the takeovers of entire neighborhoods the
00:45:31the
00:45:33Terrorism the vandalism the threats
00:45:36It's because if you say to someone your final screen is not the final screen
00:45:43You're saying everything you base your sense of reality on is insane manipulated corrupt and immoral
00:45:51Well, they fight back
00:45:57And they fight back
00:46:00Because you are what's this a great line from risky business in a recession don't have a fuck with another man's income
00:46:16So a
00:46:20Lot of people make their money from manipulation
00:46:23Right, so there's great profit in substituting
00:46:30Your words for other people's final screen there's great profit in it
00:46:45So
00:46:46imagine
00:46:48If a woman is about to marry a man who's worth ten million dollars, but she doesn't she's cheated on him, but he doesn't know
00:46:56So she's just about to get half of the ten million dollars, right?
00:47:00Cuz she's gonna get pregnant and then she's gonna have another kid and then if he leaves her she's gonna get alimony child support
00:47:05half his shit or whatever, right?
00:47:07so
00:47:09She's about to get
00:47:11Five million dollars and a totally comfortable life
00:47:19And she knows you're about to go and tell this guy she cheated on him
00:47:27She's gonna do almost anything to keep you from doing that, right?
00:47:33Because her income relies on lies
00:47:38Her income relies on the lies the lie of being faithful if a woman
00:47:43Has
00:47:45A guy's kid and he feels obligated to marry her and you are in certain knowledge that
00:47:54The kid is not the guy's right so woman has a boyfriend Bob, but she has sex with Jim
00:48:00It's Jim's kid, you know this for a fact for some reason
00:48:05Jim's out of the picture this woman wants to marry Bob and be secure and she says to Bob Bob
00:48:08This is your kid, and you know, it's not
00:48:13You
00:48:17If you go to this woman and you say
00:48:20You got to tell them or I'm gonna tell them like it's not his kid, right?
00:48:22He's got to make right. She wants the security and a million dollars worth of income. She'll get over his lifetime a
00:48:29million dollars hangs on this lie, I
00:48:32Mean can we can do this all day right like that? There's tons and tons of examples of this kind of stuff, right?
00:48:37a million dollars lands on this lie a million dollars depends on this line
00:48:43So you are trying to?
00:48:46In a sense talk someone out of giving up a million dollars, right?
00:48:51You're trying to talk someone out of giving up a million dollars
00:48:55Hey, that's a winning lottery ticket
00:48:57but you know you really shouldn't cash it in because just gonna raise your taxes and it's debt to the next generation like
00:49:01Fuck you. I'm gonna catch the million dollars
00:49:08So when people profit from falsehoods
00:49:10You
00:49:12Especially off the power and economic redistribution capacity of the state
00:49:20Then
00:49:22Lies are predators that strip them of resources
00:49:27Right you by telling the truth to people who live on lies
00:49:32You are doing the equivalent of setting fire
00:49:35to a farmer's fields and house
00:49:41In a recession don't ever fuck with a man's income
00:49:47So they view you as destroying their source of life
00:49:57So they react with great
00:50:00Viciousness now particularly if somebody has a social circle that's based upon shared delusions, right?
00:50:10If your entire social circle is based on orange man bad or whatever
00:50:14Oh could be Kamala bad or whatever, right? So if your entire social circle is based upon shared delusions
00:50:21Then if you start telling the truth you lose all of your investment in those social circles because they're all based upon shared delusions
00:50:32The truth destroys the reputation of lies
00:50:35And
00:50:37The lies take it very personally they view it as defamation
00:50:41So you tell some of the truth and it's gonna threaten all their relationships
00:50:44They don't want to admit that to themselves that all of their relationships are based on lies. I
00:50:49Mean, I've expressed sympathy for parents
00:50:52Based upon the sort of modern idea of you don't have to spend time with abusive people
00:50:56Because parents a lot of parents treated their kids like shit
00:51:00Because they're like what we don't have to treat them well because they're just gonna be obligated to take care of us in our
00:51:05Old age no matter how we treat them
00:51:07It was like it's like men who treated their wives like shit before divorce became
00:51:11Easy like in Canada up until the 1960s. You needed an act of Parliament
00:51:16to get a divorce
00:51:18right
00:51:24So a
00:51:26Lot of husbands treated their wives like shit because the wives couldn't get divorced, right?
00:51:35So when things go from coercive to voluntary, it's really tough for people who
00:51:42Simply assumed that voluntary the volunteerism wasn't going to be an issue
00:51:48You
00:51:51Volunteerism wasn't gonna be an issue
00:51:53So when you say to people you don't have to spend time with abusive parents, then abusive parents get really angry
00:52:01Because you're fucking with their source of income and perceived comfort in their old age
00:52:08My kids owe me 20 years of wiping my ass
00:52:11How dare you?
00:52:13Interfere with that you asshole and I completely understand it
00:52:18I completely understand it
00:52:28But I mean too bad right because we got it we gotta have progress we gotta have progress
00:52:44What is the heroines journey
00:52:46So very very briefly throughout most of
00:52:50Human history and certainly throughout most of human storytelling and mythology
00:52:58The highest capacity
00:53:01That women could achieve was the additional production of male brains was to produce more male brains and more male bodies, right?
00:53:08That was the highest
00:53:09Value that women could provide
00:53:12the central purpose of women throughout most of human
00:53:15Artistic history was the production of more male brains
00:53:22Chris says I've tried to talk people out of believing everything the media presents and experienced severe blowback. Yes for sure for sure
00:53:37All right, so hopefully that makes sense
00:53:40but look for this do people have a
00:53:45standard
00:53:46Like because I can't help but think like this the fine people hoax, right the Trump referred to
00:53:53Neo-nazis in Charlottesville as very fine people. I mean, it's false. It's been debunked. It's not true
00:53:59I mean, so why do people believe it because they're told that it's true and that's their final screen and after that
00:54:04They have no pushback or defense
00:54:06You
00:54:10Jay Dyer said that you know, atheists cannot claim to have universals, but only have particulars
00:54:15My question to you is where do atheists get universals from?
00:54:20Where do atheists get universals from
00:54:26Well, it's not even compared to what it's not a universal to say something is true because an
00:54:32Invisible incorporeal being that you cannot communicate with directly said so by getting someone
00:54:383,000 years ago to write something down in ancient Aramaic. That's not a universal a universal is
00:54:45scientific laws
00:54:46Universals are the laws of logic and the laws of empiricism and the need for reproducibility in scientific experiments the need for
00:54:54Rational consistency in theories before any applicability to reality
00:54:58There are tons of universals you get from empiricism and from reason
00:55:05But I don't think that the argument can rationally be
00:55:11That ghost said something to someone else. That's my universal. Come on, man
00:55:19Come on
00:55:22My invisible friend said something that's my universal did he say it to you? No, well, maybe there was kind of a hint
00:55:28I had a feeling
00:55:31That's my universal sorry
00:55:35The unverifiable internal brain mutterings of invisible friends is not a universal. Come on, man
00:55:46It's not a universal
00:55:52Two and two make four that's a universal
00:55:55Right gases expand when heated and contract right the water has three states
00:56:03Inverse square law first and second law thermodynamics, you know, they're all universals
00:56:11Right
00:56:13You cannot use the evidence of the census to overthrow the evidence of the census logical consistency rationality
00:56:18These are all universals and they're not because ghosts said so
00:56:24Somewhere else sometime else some guy said he had an invisible friend who said that's not a universal
00:56:32That's just a shared delusion
00:56:39So Jay Dyer is
00:56:41Frankly full of shit and he knows better. He knows better like that's just lazy. That's just really easy and really really bad
00:56:49You
00:56:51Let me find his
00:56:53Maybe I'll remaster that
00:56:55interview
00:56:56Maybe let's see here. Dyer
00:56:59Dyer maker. All right
00:57:01Yes, what is truth?
00:57:04FDR
00:57:05four five five zero
00:57:08February 13th 2020
00:57:10You
00:57:15So that is the philosopher Jay Dyer philosophers Jay Dyer and Stefan Molyneux go head-to-head in a powerful debate on the most basic questions
00:57:21of philosophy in life
00:57:23What is truth?
00:57:26So I'll put the link in here you can check it out
00:57:34All right
00:57:37The staff I would assume if children are raised peacefully religion would go the way of the dinosaurs
00:57:47But modern scientism is a step back from Christianity
00:57:51It is far more primitive than Christianity and you can do a search for scientism
00:57:55I've made this case a number of times. I won't get into it here in particular, but the modern white clad mystical religion practitioners
00:58:04You have to accept what they say and you don't have any access to
00:58:09their data
00:58:11In any comprehensible fashion with God at least you can play for it pray for yourself and get your own conscience
00:58:16But you can't do that with science
00:58:17So scientism is a more primitive mystery religion than anything Christianity has been involved in almost since its inception
00:58:34You
00:58:37Religiosity is genetic
00:58:40Absolutely, the the beauty and love of universals is genetic
00:58:44I think that's true. And then we certainly know that there are a certain electrical areas of the brain that can be stimulated and you
00:58:51Will get religious visions. Sure. Yeah, absolutely. It's like a sort of chaos storm, right?
00:58:57Is his AMA this chat? Yeah, you can ask here
00:59:00You
00:59:02Steph why did you step away from the spicier subjects? Why have you decided not to return to X?
00:59:07You were reaching people like never before. I'm curious a fine fine question, and I am not
00:59:13Going to answer it here because I've answered it about
00:59:16conservatively 3,500 times just do a search for Twitter at FDR podcast calm and
00:59:24You know, you have to wait for the world to catch up
00:59:27If you just keep further ahead eventually, they'll just throw you off a cliff
00:59:35Eventually, they will just throw you off a cliff. So yeah, you know, I'm enjoying my life
00:59:39I'm really having a great time doing the show. I'm enjoying working in fiction again
00:59:42I'm enjoying the call-ins and I don't forget if you want to call in. I've got some spots next week
00:59:49You can send me a message of a free domain comm slash call in free domain comm slash call in a public or private
00:59:56Just let me know. I'm enjoying the
00:59:58Call-ins, and I sort of feel like I'm finally like after like 20 years
01:00:02I've done a bunch lately and we have some spots open
01:00:05so I feel like I can't even remember the last time that that's happened, but
01:00:11If you want it here it is come and get in but you get a better because it's going fast
01:00:19All right
01:00:22Government says give me power and I will make people be good, but give me credit sound familiar. Yeah
01:00:31Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo
01:00:35All right, any other last questions comments issues challenge problems donations support whatever is on your mind
01:00:43Are you guys hoping are you are you looking forward for the election being being done?
01:00:48Are you looking forward the grim baton death march being in the review or now
01:00:55Also nice to see Bitcoin up
01:00:58Just remember
01:01:00Remember, do you remember?
01:01:03Do you remember?
01:01:05Just don't forget that there's no way it keeps going straight up right because you've got big financial institutions
01:01:11That are your ETFs
01:01:13so they're all gonna take their profits right buy and hold is a private investor strategy buy and sell is a
01:01:22Mainstream
01:01:24Strategy for investors. So people it's gonna go up. They're gonna take their profits. It's gonna go up
01:01:29It's gonna take their profits, right?
01:01:32Hey Steph, what do you think of the warrior magician lover and king archetypes of mature masculinity originally based on Carl Jung's work?
01:01:37I was very into Carl Jung when I was younger and I know that sounds like well, I've outgrown I mean
01:01:42I don't mean it that way. I'm just saying it was huge. I've read a huge amount of books. I read his
01:01:46biography and so on
01:01:49and
01:01:55It's just you know this Mandela shit and all of that like it's it's nice and it's a collective unconscious and so on
01:02:01It's just he just went off the fucking deep end with ayahuasca mysticism. Oh
01:02:06Oh, thank you, I appreciate that Calvin. Yeah, so he just went off the off the rails with ayahuasca mysticism, so
01:02:16Steph what are your thoughts on ear surgery because they stick out?
01:02:19Listen, I think it's I don't I mean if you have a little cosmetic
01:02:22Thank you for the tip if you have a little cosmetic thing. I don't know about like
01:02:26big freaky stuff
01:02:28But if you have a little cost like if your ears are out like this and you feel really self-conscious about it
01:02:32I mean getting the pin back. I assume it's not a
01:02:34It's not a big deal
01:02:37You know, I happen to have the kind of head that I think looks fine bald
01:02:41But if I had some weird misshapen head
01:02:44Maybe I would have gone in for hair transplants like Elon Musk or something like that or you know, it's it's fine
01:02:49You know, it's not a big deal. It's not gonna fix your life. But if it helps get a couple of hiccups out of the way
01:02:55That's that's fine. Or if you want to be able to hear I'm hit these could ridiculously flat ears, right?
01:03:00I'm like a Norwalk, but
01:03:04If you want to be able to hear when it's windy, yeah, maybe get a pin back a little so
01:03:10Things will be better under Trump versus Harris. Oh, yeah, there's no question and then there's a wild thing to me
01:03:14it's a wild thing to me that
01:03:17The Republicans are really gonna only they're really gonna only win when they put their personal relationships on the line
01:03:23You
01:03:28Somebody says I feel like the conversation has moved in your direction
01:03:32Peaceful parenting is more common race realism distrust of media, etc. The seeds you dropped have rippled
01:03:38Yeah, yeah. Yeah for sure for sure. But but the problem is is that
01:03:43Your reputation gets completely nuked which you know
01:03:46It's not the easiest thing in the world as a whole not that it's not the most difficult thing
01:03:50of course, it's not the easiest thing and it's worth it for me, but your reputation gets nuked and
01:03:56But it never gets restored right
01:03:59Then that's the problem right? I mean and until it's two generations down the road, right?
01:04:11I don't know if you answer my question as I didn't realize I was behind on the stream
01:04:15Yeah, I'm not sure what to do with that. Just repost your question. What about women getting Botox?
01:04:19I don't think that's so valid because wrinkles are not a
01:04:24Floor like you could say that having your ears stick out like crazy
01:04:28Well, you know it you got to be honest about it though, because the woman's gonna it's gonna show up genetically, right?
01:04:32So if he is stick out like crazy you could argue that, you know
01:04:36There's breeze you can't hear that
01:04:37Well, and it's kind of inconvenient and your ears get colder like there could be some practical reasons wrinkles are not a defect, right?
01:04:44Even hair you could argue. Well, you know if it's windy you're colder and if you have hair
01:04:49You don't have to sunscreen your head or wear a cap all the time
01:04:52So there's some practicalities around having hair but wrinkles are not that that's just vanity in my view
01:04:59You know, like if you have some really crazy nose, right?
01:05:02But if your nose is just oh I want a little ski bump like it's not a weird nose or or has some
01:05:07Issues or whatever it is then I don't know
01:05:09Yeah archetypes are fine
01:05:12But where's the morality right? Where does Trump? Sorry? Where does where does Jung talk about morality?
01:05:23Yes, so it is true
01:05:25Look, obviously I'll be vindicated in the long run blah blah blah blah blah. That's fine
01:05:30But I don't know I don't know I don't know
01:05:32I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know
01:05:35In the long run blah blah blah blah blah, that's fine
01:05:39I'll be vindicated in the long run
01:05:42And I did I did my 40 years of being right right I did my 40 years of being right
01:05:49You know, what did I say was gonna happen with crime rates with mass immigration blah blah blah blah blah like it's all
01:05:57It's all done and dusted. It's all old hat and by the time people catch up. I'm on 10,000 new topics
01:06:04Like honestly going back into those topics would feel like going back to grade 5
01:06:09Been there done that
01:06:13Like why would I why would I want to go back right?
01:06:20So, all right, yeah, I haven't done those archetypes in particular but
01:06:28Oh what you think of the heroines journey? Yeah, I did answer that
01:06:31Big guys get everyone in Bitcoin to panic and sell off the coins that they can be bought cheap
01:06:35And then when you realize that there was no reason to sell I want to buy them back. They pocket the change
01:06:39Yes for sure for sure
01:06:41Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean, I I assume it's a fairly backdoor coordinated thing
01:06:47Where when they want to buy Bitcoin they say bitcoins gonna crash. Oh, it's it's it's hit its peak. Here's all of these charts
01:06:55It's gonna it's gonna go down and they're like, oh no, it's gonna go down and then you sell it
01:06:58They want to buy it and then when they want to sell it, they say oh man bitcoins gonna go to the moon
01:07:03It's gonna go to the roof. It's a little right. So don't listen. Nobody knows the price of Bitcoin dear God life
01:07:08Nobody knows what the price of Bitcoin is gonna be five minutes five years 50 years
01:07:13nobody
01:07:14nobody
01:07:16Nobody, it's way too many variables and it's also anything that's involved with free will cannot be accurately predicted
01:07:23but I will say yes, oh with regards to the like because
01:07:27The Republicans take it as a sort of point of pride, you know, so again, I have friends who have differing political views than I do
01:07:40And and the leftists they'll they'll they'll toast friendships based on politics they absolutely will as a whole
01:07:49And and the the right is all like oh no, but but it's just a difference like no it's not a difference of opinion
01:07:56I mean if you look at the history of leftism, I
01:08:00Mean just straight-up communism, which is you know, what a lot of them fundamentally want with with equality of outcome. That's a hundred million dead
01:08:08It's a hundred million dead and you know how many imprisoned and tortured and right hundreds of millions
01:08:18Why the fuck anyone would have someone like that in their life
01:08:23It's incomprehensible to me
01:08:26Whoever takes their ideas more seriously wins. That's it. Whoever takes their ideas more seriously wins
01:08:33And
01:08:35People on the like people who are into freedom who have totalitarians in their lives are suicidal enablers
01:08:45Liberty minded folks
01:08:47who accept
01:08:49Totalitarian people into their lives and support them and accept them and chat with them and try to reason with them and so on
01:08:56Jesus I mean, I don't understand. I don't I don't understand
01:09:06Is it just like well, I'm gonna get a couple of
01:09:10Pat myself on the back brownie points and feel like a better person
01:09:14It's like, you know, the the purpose of morality is not to not feel good
01:09:18The purpose of morality is not to feel like a better person
01:09:21You
01:09:24The purpose of morality is to secure
01:09:28long-term happiness and survival by opposing those who advocate the use of violence
01:09:41I don't I don't I don't understand
01:09:46I
01:09:50Mean I've made the case countless times. So I called it the against me argument. I made the case almost 20 years ago
01:10:00It is a form of spiritual suicide to welcome into your life and break bread with people
01:10:12Who want you thrown in jail for disagreeing with them
01:10:16You
01:10:23You
01:10:35Um
01:10:41Well, I mean would you this is somewhat related would you stay in a relationship with someone
01:10:46like you you're you love this girl, and you've been dating for a while and but you're not happy and
01:10:53you say oh
01:10:55You know, I'm not happy. I I don't know and she's like so go leave. I don't care leave
01:11:02Would you would you fight to stay?
01:11:04Yeah, go go if you're not whatever if you're not happy leave fine. I don't even want to hear about it. Just go
01:11:11You're free
01:11:16You would you fight to stay in that relationship I wouldn't
01:11:25You know, I'm not I'm not enjoying this there's something not right Oh coach leave just leave fuck go go
01:11:35I'll help you pack
01:11:36Would you would you work to stay in that see I had a relationship with the world where I got I was unhappy. I
01:11:43I switched from politics people dropped me like a hot potato and then when I got de-platformed
01:11:48Almost nobody followed me to like one website over on website over calm like almost nobody followed me over
01:11:54So I'm like, hmm. I'm not happy things aren't working. Okay, go go fine. Go. I'll help you pack off you go
01:11:59That's fine. I mean, so that's I mean, it's a relief right? I mean, it's painful, right? I get that but isn't it kind of a relief
01:12:07Isn't it kind of a relief that you don't have to bother fighting for that kind of relationship because the person has made themselves very clear
01:12:12Right and all the people who I worked with and some of the people whose careers I got started and gave them a platform
01:12:17And it's not big self-sacrifice or anything. They were just like, oh Steph's gone. Yeah, he's gone
01:12:22Steph Oh fuck that guy. Was he even here? Yeah, who cares right more more audience for me? Okay, but that's great
01:12:29That's great. It's very liberating right the world has I've been in a conversation with the world
01:12:33For 40 years and the world speaks I listen I speak the world listens sometimes
01:12:39But sometimes the world speaks and I listen
01:12:47All right, any other last questions comments issues challenges problems do give me your problems he knows yet now
01:12:56All right going once going twice
01:12:59Let me know
01:13:01I mean if you're in a relationship and you say you're not happy, that's all man. Tell me what can I do to make it better?
01:13:07Oh my gosh. I'm so sorry. I guess I've been distracted. I really should have been keeping track of this
01:13:13Come over. Let's have dinner. We'll talk it through, you know
01:13:16well, that would be like
01:13:18You know if when I got the platform and stuff people are like, oh man, you got to come on my show
01:13:23You got to tell me your side. It's like, oh, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry
01:13:27Got the platform and stuff people are like, oh man, you got to come on my show. You got to tell me your side
01:13:31No, no, no people just like no, no
01:13:34No, it's like it was never here. Go go God. Don't bother me
01:13:42And that's fine, that's fine, I mean, I'm I'm just pointing it out I don't have I mean it's years ago now it's like
01:13:49It's over four years ago now
01:13:53I'm I'm happier and better
01:13:58You and of course things have become more polarized and so there's even more aggression and even less comprehension, right?
01:14:10All right, let's see here
01:14:19Oh, yeah billions died under capitalism, yeah, right
01:14:21You
01:14:25All right
01:14:36All right, and let me just check here I think yeah, I think we're done I appreciate you guys dropping by tonight
01:14:41Thank you so much. I will see you Sunday and
01:14:46I think yeah, hopefully next weekend
01:14:48We'll do a meet-up, but that will be something for donors
01:14:53And never have a girl move in
01:14:54Never have a girl move in with you because you're rewarding her with the outcome of a lifestyle of marriage without and before the actual
01:15:00Commitment of marriage. Oh, yeah, I don't live together. I mean, that's that's a no-brainer
01:15:04I just do the studies people who live together break out much more often. So, all right
01:15:08Thank you for your patience this evening. If you're listening later, it was a bit of a light donation night
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