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Video Information: Vishranti Shivir, 05.05.2019, Mumbai, India
Context:
~ What is body identification?
~ How to get rid of body-identification?
~ How do we get body-identified?
~ What is the root cause of all evil in the world?
~ A woman being seen just as a body hurts a lot, what to do?
Music Credits: Milind Date
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Video Information: Vishranti Shivir, 05.05.2019, Mumbai, India
Context:
~ What is body identification?
~ How to get rid of body-identification?
~ How do we get body-identified?
~ What is the root cause of all evil in the world?
~ A woman being seen just as a body hurts a lot, what to do?
Music Credits: Milind Date
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00:00A woman being seen just as a body, it hurts a lot.
00:14And from my own experience.
00:20How can this stop?
00:21Like, when will it stop?
00:24Like, how can you see, I mean, how can you see a person just as a body?
00:38What is the root cause?
00:39Where does it start?
00:41You answer it.
00:42You know already.
00:46You attended enough sessions and you have lived through enough life to know the answer.
00:54The start point though.
01:02The beginning point is the birth of the being.
01:06Driven by nature.
01:08Driven by Prakriti.
01:10So it might begin with the birth of the body.
01:15But then it is exacerbated by social conditioning.
01:24And when there is nothing beyond the body in your life.
01:32You have no option but to consider yourself as a body.
01:42The ego needs something to identify with.
01:47Right?
01:49And if that great, that tremendous is not available.
01:55Then what else is there to be identified with?
01:58The body.
02:00And there is an incentive in getting identified with the body.
02:03The body offers a lot of pleasures.
02:16What is the solution?
02:19You know the solution.
02:20Right?
02:22Just as a lot of conditioning brings a man or a woman to be more and more body identified.
02:37Similarly, rigorous spiritual education is needed.
02:42And one has to remember that body identification is not merely a spiritual matter.
02:48It is not merely an otherworldly concern.
02:51Body identification is the root cause of all evils in the world.
02:58You name any problem and you will be able to trace it back to body identification.
03:05Unless there is rigorous spiritual education, you cannot get rid of body identification.
03:13One needs an identity. Right?
03:17If there is no other identity, the body is the obvious identity.
03:22You cannot live identity-less.
03:26The ego needs an address, a name.
03:33The ego has to be something or somebody.
03:41The easy choice is the body.
03:54And when you are body identified,
03:57then you have no option but to destroy the world.
04:01Because if you are body identified, then the only reality to you is the world.
04:06What is it that the body can perceive?
04:09The world. Nothing else.
04:12And identified with the body,
04:15you are greatly hungry.
04:18You haven't identified with the body for nothing.
04:21You have identified with the body for a purpose.
04:24What is that purpose? Contentment.
04:26I want satisfaction through the body.
04:30Now what will the body do?
04:33The body will consume the world
04:36in order to get satisfaction.
04:39But even if you consume away the entire world,
04:42that satisfaction doesn't come.
04:45So we see what is happening now.
04:48In order to get satisfaction,
04:51man has burnt down the entire world
04:54and is still not satisfied.
04:57And will never be satisfied.
05:00Even if the entire universe is burnt down to ashes,
05:03man will still not gain contentment
05:06because man is choosing a false route.
05:11You can never get contentment through the body.
05:16It is not a spiritual axiom or something.
05:20It is a matter of practical observation.
05:25It is a matter of practical observation.
05:42Lack of spirituality is destroying
05:45human beings and the world.
05:49Human beings are being destroyed
05:52from the inside.
06:08The world is being destroyed
06:11from the outside.
06:14And as I said,
06:17There is fire in man's mind and there is fire in the forests.
06:36One is visible, one is not, but both are the same thing.
07:03It is starting even before birth.
07:10So he said, you are already body identified when you are born.
07:17That is why rigorous spiritual discipline is needed to get rid of this.
07:21Forget about getting totally rid of this, even to keep this in check, even to limit
07:29it to same levels, you require rigorous spiritual education, otherwise there is just inner and
07:44outer destruction.
08:10Jamdagan, between you and your conclusion, at least as of now, I am sitting.
08:37So one thing that I observed is that I am afraid of losing money, as in I am very confident
08:50as long as I have money.
08:52So it gives me a sense of freedom that I don't have to depend on anyone, there is nothing
08:58that I should be afraid of.
09:00So as long as I have my stable income, I am absolutely not, I don't care about anything
09:09else.
09:10So if I have to leave everything and join the foundation, even any other cause, I know
09:20that I will not earn as much money.
09:23So there is a bit of hesitancy, hesitancy that if I do not earn enough money, then I
09:31might become dependable on someone.
09:35You have to clearly know how much is enough, don't leave it vague.
09:49The more clearly you define what is and how much is enough for you, the easier would it
09:59be for you to act.
10:05It is great that you do not want to be dependent on someone, it is great that you earn for
10:09yourself, but you must know how much is enough.
10:20I would strongly advise you to never, never move around with a begging bowl.
10:28It's great that you must have something in hand and not bad if you have something in
10:34the bank as well, fine.
10:37But how much?
10:47And as much as is needed, must be arranged.
10:52So my initial thinking was that I will work for a couple of years, arrange for certain
11:09things and then I can do whatever I want.
11:11But then there is this confusion, whether that, by the time I arrange things, am I too
11:17late in starting a corporation?
11:21Arrange with respect to what?
11:25First of all, you have to clearly figure out who you are and how much is enough for you.
11:31Otherwise the question of arrangement of a particular level of funds would remain very
11:39open-ended and unanswered.
11:46If I do not know who I am, how would I ever know how much money do I need?
12:00I feel a very strong pull towards something in this direction.
12:07At the same time, it's very overwhelming.
12:10I get panic attacks sometimes before the camp begins or before I have to do any task.
12:16I purposefully find an excuse to, you know, maybe not do something, like I attended this
12:26camp late.
12:28I came for all the three days, but I attended it late because I just feel overwhelmed.
12:32At the same time, there's something extremely captivating, which I can't…
12:38These two are the same thing.
12:40It is because there is something very, very enthralling, something very compelling.
12:50That is why you also feel the awe and therefore the resistance.
13:02Nobody likes things to go out of control.
13:09Nobody wants to be attracted without measure.
13:15One wants everything to be capped, controlled, limited.
13:24So when something is hugely overpowering, then one is compelled to resist it.
13:34So these two are two aspects of the same thing.
13:37The attraction and therefore the panic and the resultant resistance.
13:45All that is only as long as you keep a safe distance.
13:54What if you had taken over upon yourself the responsibility of arranging something in the
14:01morning or afternoon of the first day itself, would you have then afforded to come late
14:06in the evening?
14:07That's what.
14:08So, all these mental games are only as long as you maintain an arm's length.
14:17I feel I am doing that, I am maintaining an arm's length.
14:25Sooner than later, you see, without your conscious choice, without the thing coming
14:36in your notice, you will find that you are unable to maintain that separation, that distance.
14:44Better sooner than later.
14:48It's anyway going to happen, not because you will necessarily choose that it happens, but
14:54because it is bound to happen that way.
14:58You cannot remain in a magnetic field and yet afford to be stagnant for long, especially
15:11when the field is becoming stronger and stronger.
15:15So at some point you have to get sucked in.
15:20If you know that that is destined, then better sooner than later and these are stories.
15:31If you stay away from something, what else can you have?
15:34Not facts but stories.
15:38The moment you join the action, all these things just vaporize because there is no space
15:44left for them.
15:46You see, there is so much to do here, after this or rather when you are into this, how
15:55will you manage to think about this and that?
15:58Did this Vishanti actually go perfectly well?
16:01It didn't.
16:02So, there was a lot to do, a lot to do and if we get into that, then the various miscellaneous
16:14thoughts and these things not only go away, but also one comes in touch with a reality
16:20that is beyond our conception, our imagination.
16:27What I am saying and what I am up to and what do I want for myself and for you, that you
16:34will know in a much better way when you are an activist rather than merely a passive participant.
16:50But how do I overcome that fear that I won't be able to handle it or I won't be able to?
16:56Let's try.
16:57Let's see.
16:58How do I know that I will be able to handle your question?
17:04Look at me, poor me.
17:07You keep throwing all kinds of things at me and I don't even have the option to say, no,
17:14no, no, no ball, no ball, only two bouncers allowed per over.
17:21You can throw six bouncers, you can throw a beamer, you can bowl underhand.
17:29You can even come right up to my nose and then throw the ball at me.
17:36I have to play, I have to engage you, right?
17:41I cannot declare your query, your delivery illegitimate and walk away.
17:49So, let's just try, let's see, let's see whether we have the appetite for it.
17:58Well, I have great trust, you know, when I invite somebody to try something out, within
18:06I'm smiling because I know the result of the trial and advance.
18:12I know I don't have to sell something to you.
18:17I know I don't have to advertise or try too hard with you.
18:23I know I just have to get you agree to try.
18:30I don't need your consent.
18:34I only need your experimentation.
18:41Once you experiment with it, consent is obviously forthcoming.
18:47So, let's try and try with all the skepticism that you can muster.
18:54I'm not asking you to try as a believer, try as a skeptic, try as a critic.
19:07You may even try with the intention to disprove me, okay with that.
19:19I have just too much of a deep belief in something to be dissuaded by your lack of belief.
19:36So, let's just try, see, you don't have to straight away take a decision and jump, proceed
20:00as carefully as you want to, one step at a time.