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00:00Live right here on the early line. We welcome you to a Tuesday in our number two here on
00:06TEL all across the Spiz Grizz network. That is Sports Grid. He is Joe
00:11I am Ben two more hours to go in this second hour
00:14We'll look at all the National Football League news and notes that you need for a new week already on the horizon
00:21Sure week eight comes to a close last night in Pittsburgh
00:24The Steelers improve to a 6 & 2 mark
00:27But what does it mean for the rest of the NFL in the injury updates all around?
00:33The league will preview game number four of the World Series tonight in the Bronx
00:38Will it be a clean sweep for the Dodgers might the Yankees have just a little bit of life
00:43Left in them that we shall discuss in our third hour and some college football in this second hour as well
00:51Joe for Saturday in November exactly one week from today the college football playoff rankings
00:57Revealed by the selection committee for the first ever time in the 12 team era a lot of good stuff to get into here
01:04in our two on the early line
01:06Yeah, I can't wait to see Ben as the next couple of weeks going college football how excited we're gonna be
01:13yelling and arguing about
01:15Eight through twelve and who's getting screwed with four losses to get into the playoff should be a lot of fun, but I'm looking forward to it
01:23Again, I think the only thing we will be yelling and screaming about exactly one week from tonight
01:29All right
01:30Let's go around the National Football League for the news and notes that you need Joe in the start of our show
01:36We mentioned good news once again for the Packers on Jordan love who is avoided
01:42Significant injuries so far this season, of course
01:45The Sal Palo opener looked like a scary knee injury missed a couple of games came back
01:50That has looked pretty good
01:51Despite putting the ball in harm's way a few times exited the early portion of the third quarter on Sunday in Duval County
01:59Against the Jags Malik Willis came in guided the Packers to yet another victory MRI though on Jordan love good news
02:07Nothing major it is a groin strain his status for Sunday as the Packers host the Lions in a
02:14Huge NFC North divisional rivalry is instead is in
02:20Question. However, the Packers currently listed as a three and a half point underdog
02:25Not sure that means at least based on the spread the odds makers are expecting a fully healthy Jordan love to start for a green bet
02:33That's uh, that's good news
02:35I'll believe it when I see it though Ben because that that limp that he had going on there
02:41No, I thought he had hurt his knee originally right weeks back and and missed a couple of games and we were going
02:47Oh boy, and I thought it was the knee again, but they're saying groin, but it's not gonna be he was
02:53He tried to gut it out. But my goodness against this Lions team. You need all hands on deck coming up here Green Bay
03:01So I hope for their sake
03:03He is a hundred percent here at some particular point because they're gonna need him against his Lions team
03:08Yeah, no doubt about it Joe
03:10They will need Jordan love Malik Willis has been great a move that happened at the very end of training camp
03:16That seemed to be an afterthought they saw something in Malik Willis did Matt LaFleur and his coaching staff
03:22He has been sensational for Green Bay
03:25He is one both of his starts outright for the pack this year as an underdog
03:30Currently the Packers getting three and a half points at home in Lambeau for a huge game Sunday
03:36Against the Detroit team Joe that really does look like maybe the best in the National Football League
03:41We understand the Chiefs are the only remaining undefeated team in the NFL, but the Lions look overwhelmingly impressive at this
03:49Moment so even if Jordan love misses week number nine in this upcoming Sunday against the Lions
03:55We do not expect him to miss a significant amount of time
03:59Joe the NFC North still a great division despite the Bears losing in Hail Mary fashion on Sunday
04:06They're above 500 the Vikings didn't lose on Thursday night
04:10They're above 500 at 5 and 2 the Packers are 6 and 2 the Lions are 6 and 1
04:16What do you make of Green Bay's outlook in this competitive NFC North
04:20Yeah, it's listen. I still think Green Bay is very much alive in that division
04:27again, making sure that
04:29Jordan love is healthy
04:31I think they're a team that we cannot count out and I think as far we talked about it last week. I still think
04:37Minnesota is overplayed
04:39You know, they've kind of been a little overvalued
04:42I think they are not nearly as good as what they started the season looking like and let's face it here
04:48The Bears still have a rookie quarterback that we're scratching our head with at times
04:53and yeah
04:54I think it's basically it's gonna be a two-horse race down a stretch between Green Bay and Detroit and
04:59They play one another
05:01So the Packers certainly I think have an opportunity here to grab the NFC North title for sure at plus 300
05:08The Green Bay Packers playoff price off the board right now on FanDuel
05:12but that was the last updated number we had at minus 250 the Vikings are minus
05:17245 the Lions who are in the first place in the NFC North and the divisional favorites have a minus
05:241,400 number to reach the postseason Detroit right now minus 130 to win the NFC North
05:29Hoping to make history again winning back-to-back divisional titles after it took them 30 years
05:35To even win one divisional championship in the National Football League
05:40But I mentioned all of those minus money playoff prices
05:43Because we're going to see at least it would seem right now three of four
05:47If not, maybe four of four
05:49But three of four teams out of the NFC North reach the playoffs the Bears at plus 290 despite the winning record
05:56So that's the quarterback status in Green Bay
05:59If Jordan love cannot go the monitor his status all week long leading up to that Sunday game against the Lions
06:06It will be Malik Willis always good to have a backup
06:10You can count on Willis has been that guy for the Packers
06:14Of course that guy for a variety of organizations in the last five to six years has been Joe Flacco
06:20The Colts play on Sunday night against one of those teams for the NFC North in Minneapolis against the Vikings, Minnesota
06:28five and a half point home
06:30favorite and Shane Steichen telling reporters yesterday Joe that quarterback Anthony Richardson if he will start on Sunday in
06:38Minneapolis quote we're
06:40evaluating
06:41everything not exactly a vote of confidence for a are not sure he deserves one after the performance on the field or
06:49Taking himself out of the game after a couple of lengthy scrambles because he was winded Joe
06:57What should Indy do at the quarterback spot Flacco or Richardson?
07:02Well, I don't know. It depends. Do you want to win games?
07:05if you want to win games then put Flacco in if you want to continue to go through the ups and downs and
07:12rollercoasters of a quarterback that played exactly one year in college man one year in college and
07:19Look sounds acts like a like an immature rookie quarterback. Not somebody I would want leading the franchise
07:27Then play Richardson, but I think if you're serious about making a run at the playoffs
07:33What the Flacco's that they're a better passing offense in a passing league now, you have a healthy Jonathan Taylor
07:40They're much more dangerous with a guy that can actually throw the ball and knows where it's going and that would be with Joe Flacco
07:47This is why the situation last year in Indy pouring over into this year is incredibly compelling
07:54This is a ours de facto rookie season. He is playing like a rookie
07:59He needs to be coached that you should not tell the media everything that is on your mind saying I ain't gonna lie
08:05I got tired. We appreciate the honesty AR shouldn't have offered it up
08:10but the fault Joe of Anthony Richardson coming out of Florida only one full year as a starter and looked in
08:17experience despite
08:19What he could do right those flashes of brilliance with the arm in the athleticism his completion percentage in
08:26College was fifty three point eight in his only year as a starter that kind of stuff
08:33Accuracy completing the football does not often improve in the NFL. It is forty eight and a half
08:40He is played in six full healthy games this year
08:45Anthony Richardson has ten completions or less in five of
08:50Six, so you want to see him work through things?
08:53You thought that would have happened last year and Gardner Minshew was out there and led the Colts to a nine and eight record
08:59But it almost gave this Indy fan base a taste of hope to see how brilliant
09:04Offensively Shane Stike it is and then we've seen Flacco win a few football games this year
09:10It's not a recipe of success for the Colts and it's not one that's great for the future
09:15of Anthony Richardson
09:16More coming your way now
09:18The New Orleans Saints one of the surprising starts to this season and highly impressive on the offensive side of the ball
09:25New Orleans started off a perfect 2-0 scoring 91 total points in their first two games
09:33From that point the Saints have not won another football game six consecutive losses
09:39For New Orleans a lot of this six-game skid has been marred by
09:44Injury and that is mainly at the quarterback spot to Derek Carr, but some good news for New Orleans
09:51entering week number nine car dealing with the oblique injury is
09:55Expected to be back at practice tomorrow Joe, which is a very good sign
10:00He can return for this week nine game on Sunday for New Orleans as the Saints
10:05Really will try to stop this skid and get back into the win column
10:10They should have a great opportunity to do so
10:13Divisional game, but they're on the road in Carolina against the Panthers as a touchdown favorite at this moment. I
10:22Is it really no a blessing to get car back cuz my goodness, I mean this not only
10:30offensively and we all were given kudos to this team, you know, and
10:35If their new OC comes in right and we're going oh my goodness, this is gonna be fantastic
10:42Oh, look at the scheming. They're gonna drop 40 up. Yeah. No
10:46Looks like defensive coordinators have figured out your blocking scheme and aren't that impressed and quite honestly with the injuries and more importantly Ben
10:54Who are they stopping on defense lately? This defense is atrocious. It's not a well-coached team at all
11:02You know Derek are no Derek Carr here
11:05Congratulations, you won't you know, you'll lose by 10 instead of the 17 you were planning on losing by without him
11:12So I think it gets from bad to worse with this organization talk about an organization in need of an overhaul
11:18I think the Saints are exactly that
11:21Yeah, we could see a new general manager. Mickey Loomis has been there for a long time
11:26We shall see Dennis Allen has been there for a long time as well third year as the head man
11:31But was Sean Payton's DC for six years before Peyton retired
11:36Of course now he's in Denver and Allen was promoted to the head coach
11:40There were some questions last year Joe about Dennis Allen
11:44Moving forward and felt as though he had lost the locker room in a regular season finale
11:49Javis Winston audible to get Jamal Williams a touchdown at the very end of
11:56Regulation in a meaningless game. They brought Dennis Allen back had to work this year
12:01They bring in Clint Kubiak. It did work for the first two weeks
12:06Even with Derek Carr Joe, it has been a struggle right in the next three games
12:11They scored 12 against the Eagles when Philly was not playing good football or even more importantly good defense
12:18Lost that game as a two-and-a-half point favorite outright. They lost to the Atlanta Falcons
12:23All right
12:23Divisional game did cover losing by two as a two-and-a-half point underdog the only cover for New Orleans in this six game
12:30Losing skid the Falcons didn't score an offensive touchdown in that football game Monday night football
12:36Could they rally against the Chiefs?
12:37They were getting blown out in that football game before Derek Carr was injured in the fourth quarter that has sidelined him now
12:44For the next or for the what sidelined him for the next three weeks
12:48Here's why Derek Carr is obviously just an upgrade whatever young quarterback the Saints have tried Spencer Rattler not the answer
12:55It's why is it fifth round pick? I'm sorry to say Jake Hainer. Not the answer
13:00This has been the issue for New Orleans ten points or less in their last two games
13:05So yes, of course Derek Carr is a massive upgrade
13:09But to Joe's point can a Saints team at two and six rally out of this hole to even win?
13:17Let's say seven of their next ten games or seven of their next nine games
13:23That would get them to nine and eight Joe
13:25There might be some hope in the NFC South because of how this division looks at this moment
13:32Just not sure. It means all that much. Yes, Derek Carr is of course
13:36Absolute immediate and significant improvement. I think the writings on the wall in the big easy
13:42I think we're going to see a new head coaching staff. It may be a largely new front office entering next season. I
13:49Think we don't have much of a choice if you are them
13:52I mean they are really about as one-dimensional as it comes
13:56But it's the defensive side that worries me that they're always going to be playing from behind and the one thing we know about Derek
14:03Carr
14:04And he's missed three straight games because of that left oblique, right?
14:08They're going to become extremely one-dimensional and then all of a sudden Kamara is not a runner
14:13They can't play from great team when they play from in front
14:17But every NFL team is great when they play in front if you can't stop anybody
14:21That's the biggest problem that they've got going right now
14:24They've got a lot of holes on that defense that I don't see being fixed anytime soon
14:29And there's a lot of injuries still the offensive line is not great
14:33The Saints defense is banged up just because Derek Carr is back
14:36Which is most significant does not mean it's going to be greener pastures ahead for New Orleans and Joe
14:43That's an issue mainly for Dennis Allen
14:44The Saints are allowed twenty five point eight points per game bottom ten scoring defense currently in the National Football League
14:51If that's your area of expertise, that should be the one thing that did not drop off this year
14:57It certainly has for the Saints this season if there is any bit of momentum in life left
15:04For New Orleans, it comes the next two weeks two divisional games again touchdown favorite on the road in Carolina
15:11I am done even thinking the Panthers have a legitimate pulse to cover in a game
15:16They are getting seven points even at home says a guy who bet Carolina to keep it within double digits against the Broncos on
15:24Sunday but Joe the week after that if the Saints even just win with Derek Carr back on Sunday in Charlotte
15:30They host the Atlanta Falcons again
15:33If you have any hope at all you win your next two games or four and six
15:39You're still in a hole to crawl yourself out of but you've picked up a couple of key divisional wins
15:45Yeah, well, you're gonna you're gonna have to here but don't forget they also lost one of the big
15:51Reasons been they had so much success early was
15:54Rashid Shahid being able to stretch the field and car being able to get they don't have that anymore. He's on the shelf. He's out
16:01And I think what do they have Marquez Valdez scantling? They had to sign off the scrap heap
16:06I mean, this is not exactly the same offense that cars walking back into either
16:11But they can certainly put up some points with him. They're gonna have to against the team like Atlanta, aren't they?
16:17The Falcons are minus
16:19370 to win the NFC South. Is that because Atlanta has looked like a world beater? No
16:25No, it's the Bucs are super banged up
16:27The Saints have been dismal and then there's the Carolina Panthers good for Atlanta
16:32This is what you wanted when you got Kurt Cousins
16:35The path is clear plenty more around the NFL next NFL headlines from a Monday now
16:42Into a Tuesday the first one just makes you chuckle again. It was a dramatic
16:49Meaningful awesome play that will be remembered in the history of the NFL the Hail Mary on Sunday in
16:56Landover, Maryland
16:57Jaden Daniels tipped up into the air and into the welcoming arms of Noah Brown for a walk-off
17:03Hail Mary to beat the Chicago Bears in the matchup of 1 versus 2
17:0818 to 15, but part of the reason it will also always be talked about is
17:14Chicago's corner in Tyreek Stevenson chirping fans as the ball was snapped to realize
17:21Oh, I got to get back and do something. Oh, let me go try to tip it
17:24Oh, I kind of whiffed and hit it up into the air. Oh
17:28Noah Brown caught it Tyreek Stevenson to his credit did apologize both to his Bears teammates and
17:36Chicago fans
17:37Yesterday that Eber Flus was kind of detailing
17:40What the apology was and said the Tyreek Stevenson took accountability and that was important but told his teammates it would never
17:49Happen again good. It should never happen again first and foremost, but if you're in the opportunity for it to happen again
17:56That's also an issue for the Bears. Oh, man, maybe one of the funniest plays in the history of the NFL
18:03And you know the the crazy part here Ben is is
18:06He was in position to make the play and he missed jumped and he mistimed it
18:12so I mean he could have it was it wasn't like he was totally out of position like he had the
18:18Opportunity still to make the play and you didn't make the play
18:21So take responsibility for not actually timing the jump correctly and batting the ball down more than anything else
18:28Unbelievable Ben, but was he slightly out of position thus mistiming his jump because he's drawing with commanders fans
18:36Again, my my favorite thing about this play. Please go look at the memes
18:40Please go look at the photos Bears fans sitting right behind the end zone say
18:44Tyreek the play is happening. Get over there. Go go and he goes and then makes yet another
18:52Blunder part of that is on Tyreek Stevenson again
18:56I still think that Matt Eber Fluser needs to be held accountable as well
19:00he brought three guys with four guys on the line of scrimmage and
19:05Dropped back a spy like it was third and eight and Jaden Daniels might take off up the gut. I
19:15Been too mad about it still blitz the quarterback great pressure when it's an obvious Hail Mary
19:21Situation at least four guys if not five these kinds of things will not happen
19:27Joe the Kansas City Chiefs the last unbeaten team in the NFL a perfect unblemished
19:32Seven and Oh record and they're just adding on they acquired DeAndre Hopkins last week didn't do much in his debut
19:40We'll take him some time. Of course to get acclimated in KC
19:43They add a talented edge rusher from New England
19:47Josh Uche who is now going to join what has been a really solid Chiefs defense here the rest of the way
19:55KC is always all in it's why they've won three Super Bowls in the last five years
20:00Looking to become the first team in NFL history to win three straight Lombardi trophies and even get to a third consecutive Super Bowl
20:08yeah, and
20:10They paid next to nothing for him Ben, which is hilarious because who J was a second round pick
20:15He's only making three million dollars this year
20:18He's basically a rental the Patriots weren't going to resign him or give him a new deal
20:23But to get only a six-round pick that is a pretty low price to pay
20:29For a team going for its third consecutive Super Bowl championship and a guy that is shown just a couple of years ago
20:35He's capable of double-digit sacks and pressures
20:40Kind of crazy here, but the Kansas City Chiefs if you want to know why they're a winning franchise, it's not just my homes
20:47It's because they're willing to go out and bargain shop and get guys like
20:51Uche and D hop and others to bolster the team when it matters the most
20:56Two sacks in seven games this year only has started four games including one this season
21:02During his tenure in New England the San Francisco 49ers got a much-needed win on Sunday night against the Cowboys
21:09They're an even 500 four and four they enter the by and on the other side
21:13Christian McCaffrey could be returning and is on track for the 49ers Brian Thomas jr
21:20Who has had a good rookie season so far for the Jags despite?
21:23Jacksonville being two and six was injured on Sunday against Green Bay fear was it was significant
21:30Seems to have avoided major injury good news for the Jaguars
21:34Yeah, but they ended up losing Kirk. So not great news for the Jaguars all together
21:40Not great news for the Jags here, but good to see Brian Thomas jr
21:44I think is gonna be a stud in this league for years to come
21:48Who's gonna be calling his plays that remains to be seen only a matter of time before Doug Peterson is handed the pink slip
21:56Here an early look at Thursday night football in a big one next ah
22:01Here we are yet again a new week in the National Football League is on the horizon
22:07Just over 48 hours away for the second time this year the New York Jets hosting a short week Thursday
22:14Night football game the Jets did beat the Patriots the last time this happened
22:19That was the last time the Jets have won a football game now on a five-game
22:25losing skid
22:27We're gonna do it, right? We got to ask the questions
22:30So let's just ask it Joe Ranieri as they host the Houston Texans
22:34And if you look at the numbers the New York
22:38The New York Jets are a home favorite if even by just about 30 cents on
22:45Thursday against a 6 & 2 Houston team Joe
22:50The caption of the graphic says one last chance
22:56I
22:59Absolutely
23:00Not in no way shape or form
23:03Are we thinking the Jets are backable in any way now the only problem here and let's face it
23:09I think we can all admit the Jets
23:11Have hit rock-bottom at least I think that is rock-bottom losing to the Patriots as a touchdown
23:17favorite is rock-bottom people with the talent they have on this team, but
23:23You'd be crazy not being worried about the Texans here Stefan digs
23:27Gone this week non-contact knee injury with Nico Collins is gonna miss at least another game
23:35Which means you're gonna have to rely on what Joe Mixon?
23:39and
23:40CJ Stroud against that Jets pass rush who will have did Hassan Reddick play by the way
23:46Anybody seen a son Reddick? I've been looking on him on the back of milk cartons
23:50Because somebody said he might have actually been in the game, but you wouldn't know it in fact, you wouldn't know
23:56He was even on the team
23:58Much less actually on the football field here. This is a tough game Ben because both teams I
24:05Can't trust at this point again. The Texans couldn't cover against Indy
24:09They barely won there and the quarterback was exhausted and still they couldn't
24:15They couldn't pull away in order to beat him, so I think Houston normally is an easy choice here
24:22But Ben there's a lot of concerns with this Houston team heading into it on a short week
24:27There's no doubt about it. Joe. There's no doubt about it
24:30Houston is six and two
24:31But they have not looked like the greatest six and two football team because this year they are the hunt ease right last year
24:39They got to play with very little expectation
24:41Rookie head coach rookie quarterback who both overwhelmingly exceeded expectation that they were historically good
24:49But this year a lot was expected that up-and-coming team in the AFC run away with a bad AFC South Division check
24:57content for a conference championship
24:59Question mark as of this moment and Joe that's been reflected in the odds
25:04Houston has been a favorite a lot this season unlike early last year in Scrouds rookie campaign
25:11With CJ Stroud, they are five nine in one against the spread as the favorite side
25:17Not great numbers as an underdog though
25:20There are a lot better eight and four ATS when you look at the outright wins though
25:25because it's basically a pick'em six outright victories for Stroud and the Texans as
25:30An underdog since his rookie campaign began last season in
25:352023
25:37Here's really where this game comes down to it for me Joe, right?
25:40You mentioned how the Patriots game was rock-bottom certainly was touchdown favorite
25:44I'll be it on the road in a divisional game
25:46Against a team that was 1 and 6 and had not covered since it's outright victory to start off
25:52The season because even when we have done this
25:55Experiment this examination of Aaron Rodgers and gangrene the last couple of weeks
26:00All right touchdown favorite at home against the Broncos sloppy ugly game. They lost but hey
26:05Maybe Denver's not as bad as being a touchdown underdog to anybody in the NFL next week pivotal
26:12Monday night against Buffalo. You're at home. I'll be it a slight underdog. They looked okay
26:18They lost of course Robert Sala was fired before that. It leads to the acquisition of Devante Adams
26:25All right, go to Pittsburgh. You're a road favorite Russell Wilson hasn't played in a long time
26:31He's making his Steelers debut go put up 25 points against the best scoring defense in the NFL
26:37It proved to us that Devante Adams is going to move the needle you faltered once again
26:42Yeah actively found ways to lose the football game and then it got even worse on Sunday
26:48the Jets became the first team in NFL history out of
26:52751 teams in an NFL regular season game to allow their opponent less than
26:57250 yards to score 20 plus points and not turn the football over in still
27:03Somehow some way find a way fine
27:06Not like oh man bad luck found an active way to lose a football game
27:12So there is zero chance not a single chance
27:15I would take your money freeze those money our TD match money our graphic producer
27:21Jesse's money to bet on the New York Jets as a favorite to win a football game
27:27never going to happen Joe never going to believe the New York Jets should be expected to win a football game until we
27:34Rapidly see improvement that I'm not sure there is going to be
27:38No, no, and especially not since when they fired Salah
27:43Over the last three weeks Ben. They are now 26th in rushing defense
27:4927th in defensive success rate
27:51They're seeing teams run at least 30 rushes a game on them the defense is getting tired
27:58They're out on the field all the time couple the fact with the offensive
28:03inability to be
28:04Consistent and stay on the field at all
28:06This defense is in this is a Joe mixing game in a big big way
28:11I don't even know how we're at 42 and a half points if we're being honest here Ben. I really don't
28:17So that I agree with as well Joe
28:19I'm not exactly sure how we get to that number because again the New York we thought we've been together on these
28:26Tuesdays the last few weeks right two of the last three weeks where we have seen
28:30Robert Salah be fired rather shockingly based on
28:34Timing and the acquisition of Devante Adams and Joe we have debated the outlook for the Jets would any of this matter?
28:40Would it make the Jets a playoff team at bare minimum?
28:44Maybe even flirt with a winning record to resurrect their season and try to snap a 13 year playoff drought
28:50The answer has been a resounding
28:53No, nope, not a not a literal chance
28:58So we're doing it kind of but we're really not doing it because we are both hammering the New York Jets in this
29:04Examination, but Joe the one thing we said about Devante Adams, he was going to make a positive impact
29:09We thought right, but if he's going to make a positive impact and the Jets need to be scoring 28 points per game
29:14They're not they haven't looked very good
29:17Offensively, they have not looked very smooth
29:20Offensively Devante Adams had four grabs for 54 yards, but Garrett Wilson was still the leading receiver
29:26They're like kind of going to Breeze Hall, but they're certainly not giving their talented young running back enough touches
29:33Aaron Rodgers didn't throw the football 40-plus times on Sunday against New England only 28
29:39He didn't turn the football over. He looked pretty good multiple touchdown passes and yet they still lost
29:46so I don't know what the Jets can do and Joe we joked about this because Jeff Ulbricht the interim head coach and oh
29:52By the way, it kind of turns out that when you have a coordinator become an interim head coach some of his
29:58Responsibilities on a week-to-week basis kind of get lost in the shuffle
30:01You don't say was talking about Greg Zirlan and how awful the Jets kicker has been this year another missed field goal and another missed
30:09Extra point against New England on Sunday in all the sweeping changes
30:14We have seen to this franchise in the last month. The fact this guy still has a job. I'll never understand
30:21But six missed field goals a missed point after and yet he's talking about
30:29Accountability and people are asking him
30:32Well, how can you talk accountability when you still have Greg Zirlan rolling out there missing kicks left and right and costing you games?
30:39Yeah, and his answer was well, sometimes it's not about the results. It's about the effort
30:45He puts the work in so apparently results don't matter in the NFL apparently
30:52Like the one position more than most
30:54That should matter result wise is a kicker
30:58We annoyed wins and losses to a quarterback, but there's a lot happening around the QB. He is held responsible
31:04It's the most important position. What was the effort that Greg Zirlan has provided in practice?
31:08He did a really good job setting up the net now. I'm a kicker
31:12I'm a special teams God, but like
31:16All team Texans moneyline all come up. We're gonna have a good time