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Salman Akram Raja says 'we will resist constitutional amendment through judicial and political...'
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, I am Maria Mehman with the program Sawalak-e-Saat.
00:14We can hear the sound of the 27th Ayn-e-Tarmeem.
00:17The 26th Ayn-e-Tarmeem has not been settled yet.
00:20And the meetings have started with the 27th Ayn-e-Tarmeem.
00:22We will talk about this before the program.
00:24On the other side, we can see the legal team of PJI.
00:26This is a public display of the fight.
00:30Because of this, there is a tension between the factions in the party.
00:35We will talk about this in the second semester of the program.
00:37Pakistan is the third worst country for Amman.
00:40We are not saying this.
00:42This is the report of the Law and Order Justice Project.
00:46We will talk about this in the last semester of the program.
00:49Let's start.
00:50The 26th Ayn-e-Tarmeem has not been settled yet.
00:53The 27th Ayn-e-Tarmeem has not been settled yet.
00:57The government is trying to solve the new challenges.
01:04The government is trying to bring the 27th Ayn-e-Tarmeem.
01:07Today, a very important meeting was held with this question.
01:09We saw that the PM Shabaz Sharif and the Chairman of the PPP Bilawal Bhutto Zardari
01:14met in Model Town, Lahore.
01:17According to sources, Shabaz Sharif and Bilawal Bhutto
01:20have decided to move the Parliament for the 27th Ayn-e-Tarmeem.
01:23And the Chairman of the JUI, Maulana Fazlur Rehman, has already decided to take it on board.
01:29According to sources, two more sessions have been held for the Ayn-e-Tarmeem.
01:34The Ayn-e-Tarmeem and the 27th Ayn-e-Tarmeem will be held in Islamabad from tomorrow.
01:40According to sources, Bilawal Bhutto will also contact Nawaz Sharif, the leader of Muslim League Nawaz,
01:45who is currently in London.
01:48After a short break, a political clash will start again in Islamabad from tomorrow.
01:53The government has now officially confirmed this.
01:56Rana Sanaw Allah has given a series of interviews.
02:00He has said that not only is the Ayn-e-Tarmeem coming, but what will be its limits?
02:04Will there be military courts in it or not?
02:07And in addition, Aqeel Malik, who has also been very active about the previous consultation,
02:12is also telling us some points in this regard.
02:16Let's listen to what both of them have to say.
02:47In this regard, it is obvious that the JOIF played a very important role last time.
02:52In fact, if we say that it played a key role, then this will not be wrong.
02:56This time, Maulana Fazlur Rehman Sahib's position is that he will oppose the 27th Ayn-e-Tarmeem.
03:03Listen to this.
03:04The 27th Ayn-e-Tarmeem is coming.
03:07We will not be able to come.
03:09God willing, we will cause a lot of trouble.
03:11This is not an easy task.
03:12It is obvious that we will take our own decisions.
03:16There is no question.
03:17If God forbid, such a thing happens, then there will be a severe punishment.
03:23What is the position of Tariq-e-Insaaf in this regard?
03:25In the previous consultation, there was a very heavy input of Tariq-e-Insaaf.
03:29There was more or less agreement on Tariq-e-Insaaf.
03:32There was a disagreement on Tariq-e-Kar.
03:34And most importantly, there was a disagreement on the fact that Tariq-e-Insaaf does not accept the legitimacy of this parliament.
03:41That is why it is not allowed to do any kind of Ayn-e-Tarmeem.
03:44What is the position of Tariq-e-Insaaf at the moment?
03:46Listen to this.
03:47You must remember the announcements of the previous political committee.
03:51In that, we said that we have submitted this matter to our legal committee.
03:55And they are exploring its options.
03:58Let's see what the legal committee says on Monday and how they want to challenge it.
04:03So what is the problem?
04:04Why do you want to bring the 27th Ayn-e-Tarmeem?
04:06There are some points due to which the Ayn-e-Bench cannot be formed at the moment.
04:10That is, you are bringing an original, such a big Tarmeem, such a big theatre.
04:14And you have not figured out the basics in it.
04:17For example, under Article 191A, the Ayn-e-Bench has to be nominated and appointed by the Judicial Commission.
04:24According to Article 175A, it is necessary to include the senior judge or judges of the Ayn-e-Bench in the Judicial Commission.
04:31And now this bench is yet to be formed.
04:33This is a serious shortcoming due to which no new Judicial Commission can be formed.
04:37And no Ayn-e-Bench can be formed until the Parliament does not form this Shikki through the 27th Ayn-e-Tarmeem.
04:44Another question that arises is that can the 27th Ayn-e-Tarmeem possibly be formed through the Military Courts?
04:52Mr. Rana Sanawalla has given a hint in this regard.
04:55The third point that is under consideration is that once again, can the option of forming the Ayn-e-Dalat instead of the Ayn-e-Bench be considered?
05:05This is another question that arises.
05:07In the 27th Ayn-e-Tarmeem, are the seniority lists of the judges going to be changed again?
05:12Because I have seen that in the Practice and Procedure Bill, the three senior judges have been included.
05:17So does the government want the seniority list to start after Justice Yaya Preeti?
05:23And the two judges before her should not be considered as seniors?
05:26This is another question.
05:28Will the Practice and Procedure Act be reformed once again?
05:31In which the Chief Justice, the senior judge and the head of the Ayn-e-Dalat will be included in the committee?
05:36In the 27th Ayn-e-Tarmeem in Sindh, however, the government has accepted this on record,
05:41that things will be included in the distribution of funds in the Baldyati system.
05:46So what is the government trying to do?
05:49And will it be successful in this?
05:51We are seeing that the fight for justice is very prominent.
05:56Now it is in the public eye.
05:59It is in front of the media.
06:00It is on social media.
06:01We will talk about that too.
06:02Mr. Salman Akhtar Raja is present with us.
06:04He is the Secretary General in the first part of the program.
06:06Thank you very much, Mr. Raja, for joining us.
06:08First, I will ask questions about the Ayn-e-Tarmeem.
06:10Then, of course, the justice system is in front of each other.
06:13It is quite embarrassing now.
06:14Many things about the 26th Ayn-e-Tarmeem have not been settled yet.
06:19And the government is trying to bring the 27th Ayn-e-Tarmeem.
06:24You had to do that challenge.
06:27Where are you standing with regards to the justice system?
06:32Look, you said in the beginning that there was a consensus on the constitution.
06:37This is not right.
06:38Look, I don't know why this is being said again and again.
06:41Barrister Gauhar had said a sentence when a completely different constitution was in front of us.
06:47Later, when it was revealed that how this Ayn-e-Bench will be made,
06:52how the Chief Justice will be appointed,
06:54this was not in any of our constitutions in which we expressed our commitment.
07:01So, this is absolutely wrong.
07:02Look, we are fundamentally against this amendment.
07:05We do not think that one of the three senior mosques should be appointed as the Chief Justice.
07:10We do not think that the appointments in the Ayn-e-Bench should be made by such a commission
07:16in which there will always be a majority of the government.
07:20We had fundamentally supported the Indian system in which five or seven senior judges are appointed in the Ayn-e-Bench
07:27without any commission.
07:31This is our position.
07:32Apart from the fact that this assembly does not have jurisdiction,
07:35Ayn-e-Tarmeem cannot be made through abduction,
07:37Ayn-e-Tarmeem cannot be made through beating.
07:40So, all those things are in their place.
07:42We will make political and judicial objections in this regard.
07:46This is our clear position.
07:48In a few days, you will see both the parties involved in this action.
07:55As far as the relationship is concerned, it has been 27 years.
07:58Let me tell you that the government's wisdom of action,
08:01for the first time, they took Mr. Maulana on board at the last opportunity.
08:04Then we saw that the government had to make a lot of efforts to make a consensus.
08:11This time, they want to engage with Mr. Maulana from the beginning and take him along.
08:15So, they are probably reviewing their political wisdom of action as well.
08:19And they will keep Mr. Maulana with them from the beginning.
08:22They have changed their strategy.
08:24Okay, fine.
08:25Look, it is Mr. Maulana's own decision as to how far he wants to go.
08:30We engaged with Mr. Maulana first with the intention that he does not become a part of Ayn-e-Tarmeem.
08:35Look, our basic objective was not to meet with Mr. Maulana and come to an agreement.
08:42Our objective was not to become a part of Ayn-e-Tarmeem.
08:45When Mr. Maulana said, no, there are certain things that I will follow,
08:49then fine, our paths parted there.
08:52And we said very clearly that we are not at all prepared for the Ayn-e-Tarmeem.
08:59Now, Mr. Maulana, what attitude will you adopt?
09:03We still hope that the very scary Ayn-e-Tarmeem,
09:07whose intention was to reduce the basic rights for Pakistanis,
09:11and if the basic rights are violated, then the courts should be closed against them.
09:18Military courts should be established to punish the civilians.
09:22All these things are of such a basic nature, I think.
09:26They have nothing to do with PTI.
09:28This is about our humanity.
09:30Mr. Salman, you said that you did not agree with the final constitution,
09:35point taken.
09:36But Mr. Maulana liked your proposal for the Ayn-e-Bench.
09:40He convinced the government in this regard.
09:43And he came to the Ayn-e-Bench from the Ayn-e-Adalat.
09:46You were giving your input.
09:48Whether Mr. Tarmeem agrees or not, but you…
09:50Absolutely.
09:51But look, the Ayn-e-Bench that has been made,
09:54has nothing to do with the Ayn-e-Bench that we proposed.
09:58It was just that 5-6 senior judges should be given the Ayn-e-Bench.
10:02In fact, I even wrote that you should revolve in it,
10:05so that all the judges of the Supreme Court get a chance to look at the Ayn-e-Bench.
10:10But according to a rule, no commission should have the authority
10:14to decide who will sit in the Ayn-e-Bench and who will not.
10:17This is directly related to the work of the Supreme Court,
10:20which is the formation of the Supreme Court,
10:22which is intervened by the legislature.
10:24The trichotomy of powers, which we say are three parts of the constitution,
10:29the judiciary is one, the judiciary is the second,
10:31and the administration is the third,
10:33there is an attempt to destroy them,
10:36which I think is fundamentally unconstitutional.
10:39So with this in mind, it is very important that we do not talk about a broad brush,
10:43that there was a constitutional amendment, you agreed to it, what was in it?
10:47The constitutional amendment that we proposed at that time,
10:50saying that we do not want to follow it,
10:52we do not think that this parliament has any right,
10:55but if you have to do it, then do what is happening in India.
10:58This has been the proposal of the Bar Council for 20 years.
11:02So they did not do this.
11:04What they did was absolutely unethical.
11:06So can we assume this, can you confirm this,
11:10that at least the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Assembly will not endorse this,
11:15Ayn-e-Benches will not be formed there?
11:18No, no, there is no need to endorse it.
11:21Now it has been amended.
11:23However they did it, by kidnapping and beating,
11:26there is no role of the Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Assembly in this.
11:29This was amended on the level of the constitution, however it was.
11:33Correct me if I am wrong,
11:35is Article 202 not subject to the resolution of the provincial assemblies,
11:40the establishment of Ayn-e-Benches?
11:42Is this in Article 202?
11:45No, not at all.
11:48Therefore, nothing of this sort will happen.
11:50But the Sindh Assembly did it,
11:52I am asking because there is no clarity.
11:54The Sindh Assembly endorsed it,
11:56it will be formed there,
11:57there are cases filed there,
11:59you do not think there is a need in the KP Assembly
12:03to bring a resolution in the assembly?
12:05Yes, if there is a need,
12:07as you are saying, it is written in a fine print,
12:09then the KP Assembly will not do it.
12:11We do not agree with this.
12:13But in my opinion, there is no need for the KP Assembly.
12:17But even if there is a need, I will confirm it,
12:19then the KP Assembly will not agree with this.
12:22Now, what is the next step?
12:24Now, if we talk about the 27th amendment…
12:26Because Justice Yahya sir has raised the head of the Chief Justice,
12:29KP's Chief Minister has gone there,
12:32and he has also participated in that vote.
12:35Before that, he was saying that if it is not made,
12:37we will jam the Senior Most.
12:38That did not happen, thankfully.
12:40Now, he has accepted it,
12:41Tariq-e-Insaf has come on record.
12:43Now, what is the next step?
12:45The amendment has been made.
12:46Can it be reversed?
12:47Can it be challenged?
12:48But he has not accepted it.
12:49This word is not correct.
12:51There is a reality, a de facto reality.
12:53You have done one thing.
12:55Now, there is a Supreme Court.
12:57Anyway, our cases are there.
12:59Our life and wealth are related to these cases.
13:01So, we will not leave it and sit and say,
13:03take my wealth, take my life, take my honor.
13:06We will fight.
13:07We will go to any court that is available to us.
13:10But going to that court and fighting a case
13:13does not mean that we have accepted the 26th amendment.
13:16There is a Chief Justice of that court.
13:18We have no problem with his personality.
13:20He is a very honest person.
13:22He is a fair-minded jurist.
13:23But the method adopted, the amendment that was made,
13:26we have a disagreement with that.
13:27There will be a disagreement.
13:28We will continue to fight against it.
13:30Right.
13:31This time, if Maulana Fazul Rehman Sahib
13:33asks for input from you,
13:34to help in any way in the 27th amendment,
13:37last time you gave input.
13:39Will you give input this time as well
13:41or will you not engage in this after the previous experience?
13:46This will be seen.
13:47But I think that if it is about reducing fundamental rights,
13:52making military courts,
13:54then Maulana is very clear on this.
13:56He will not support this.
13:58He does not need our input in this regard.
14:01He completely understands that doing this
14:03will be a poison for the country.
14:06And this should not happen.
14:08So, he will not do this.
14:09Apart from this,
14:10if it is a technical issue,
14:12if he wants to talk on a technical level,
14:15then we will do that.
14:16But if the fundamental principle is further developed,
14:20and the fundamental rights are reduced,
14:23the jurisdiction of the courts is further reduced,
14:26or military courts are made,
14:28then I think not only Maulana,
14:30but every democratic power in Pakistan will rise.
14:32Now, this matter has progressed a lot.
14:34Until now, people thought that this was a matter of PTI.
14:38This is not a matter of PTI.
14:40And we have been saying from the first day
14:42that it has nothing to do with PTI.
14:46Let's move a little further.
14:47Regarding your party's matters,
14:49this is a very embarrassing exchange on social media and media.
14:56There is nothing.
14:57Look, if a person starts abusing on Twitter,
15:02I don't understand how the national media gets excited about it.
15:07Twenty-two junior lawyers work in our teams.
15:10Tomorrow, I will tell someone that we don't need you anymore.
15:14Thank you very much.
15:15And they will sit on Twitter and start making accusations.
15:19You will say that this has become a problem.
15:21I don't know what else happened in the legal team of PTI.
15:24Nothing happened.
15:25It will end in a day or two.
15:26You know how many media psykers there are.
15:28If anyone goes on the street and abuses,
15:30then the camera turns to that side for a few seconds.
15:33There is nothing more than this.
15:34Sir, a question is being raised on the strategy.
15:37Before this, you did not file a petition in Lahore High Court.
15:41You kept delaying.
15:43Now that the petition has been filed,
15:45you are going to file a new petition on Monday.
15:48Is this a legal strategy?
15:50There was no delay.
15:52These are such useless things.
15:54No, no, there was no delay.
15:55We have filed many petitions.
15:57We know when to file which petition.
15:59A small lawyer can sit and talk.
16:01The media may need something.
16:03I don't know if there is a shortage of news these days.
16:05So this thing will end in a day or two.
16:08Sir, when the internal matters of your party come on the media,
16:11when they become the adornment of the mic,
16:13when they become the adornment of social media,
16:15social media is now a reality.
16:17It is not difficult to come on social media.
16:19If these things are solved within the party,
16:22and the public does not come out,
16:23then we will not comment on it.
16:24When the public comes out, we comment on it.
16:26No, why not come?
16:27Why not come?
16:28If a person has to abuse,
16:29and he does it on Twitter,
16:31then we cannot stop him.
16:33It is your job to understand
16:35whether this is a newsworthy news or not.
16:37Tomorrow, if I fire someone in the central office,
16:41T-boy,
16:42and he tweets,
16:44you put him on TV and say,
16:46yes, tell us.
16:47Sir, what is the difference between T-boy
16:48and those who have been involved in legal strategy for a long time?
16:51Is there a difference?
16:52No, there is no difference.
16:53Look, I just said that
16:55there are dozens of lawyers who are looking at our cases
16:58all over Pakistan at the moment.
17:00Anyone of them can do anything tomorrow
17:02on social media,
17:03Twitter,
17:04YouTube.
17:05We cannot stop them.
17:06But there is no importance of these things.
17:08I am just saying this.
17:09In the party,
17:10within the legal teams,
17:12there is a division.
17:13I do not see any excitement in this
17:16that why a national TV…
17:18Sir, your secretary of information is commenting on this.
17:21Your former secretary of information is commenting on this.
17:24Or the person in charge of the party…
17:26Listen, you can see the comments.
17:28If someone abuses someone
17:30and he says,
17:31brother, do not abuse,
17:32then this is national news.
17:34I do not understand.
17:35But I assure you,
17:36there is no issue.
17:37Look,
17:38the cases of the party
17:40are being handled by Salman Safdar
17:42or me.
17:43Or some cases are being handled by Ali Zafar.
17:45Some cases are being handled by Uzair Bhandari.
17:48Some cases are being handled by Lateef Khosa.
17:50We are the party councils.
17:52We have dozens of junior lawyers with us.
17:55If one of those junior lawyers
17:57thinks that I am abusing on Twitter,
18:00then he can.
18:02We can include a lawyer
18:04or remove him from the team.
18:06I do not understand
18:07what is so interesting about this.
18:09It has nothing to do with the cohesion of the party
18:11or anything else.
18:12It is a very ordinary matter.
18:14Let's move ahead.
18:15In the 26th IDL term,
18:17on which you had a doubt
18:19that they can vote.
18:21They did not need to vote.
18:22You have given some show-cause notices.
18:24I was watching Qureshi's Twitter.
18:26He said that he has stepped down
18:28from the post of Deputy Parliamentary Secretary.
18:30What is the status now?
18:32Are you satisfied with the answers
18:34that were allegedly given?
18:36Or how long will that inquiry
18:38go on?
18:40Their answers are coming.
18:42We will have a hearing
18:44after getting the answers.
18:46Then we will decide.
18:48Will it be an extreme step?
18:50Because at the moment
18:52it is not easy to leave the seats.
18:54I know.
18:56We will listen to them.
18:58We will listen to them.
19:00What is the reality?
19:02How much is the allegation?
19:04When the truth will be revealed,
19:06then we will decide accordingly.
19:08Pakistan's politics has a history.
19:10There have been deals in the past.
19:12It is not believed that a deal was made.
19:14It is a clear example of this.
19:16Nawaz Sharif was making a deal.
19:18Every member of his party
19:20has a history.
19:22When he was judged,
19:24he came to know what happened.
19:26When your members
19:28come out of jail,
19:30the first allegation is
19:32that a deal was made.
19:34For example,
19:36Khan's wife and sister
19:38are coming out
19:40because a deal was made.
19:42They have been given
19:44some assurances.
19:46I do not know about any deal.
19:48If you see a deal
19:50in London,
19:52ask me.
19:54I do not know
19:56about any deal.
19:58Mr. Khan is in jail.
20:00He is not ready to
20:02leave his position.
20:04What deal will be made?
20:06He is saying that
20:08we should not bring democracy
20:10in this country.
20:12We should have elections with transparency.
20:14We should not kidnap people.
20:16What deal will be made?
20:18Thank you very much.
20:20Nawaz Sharif went back to London.
20:22It is interesting that
20:24the Chief Justice of Pakistan
20:26took oath last year.
20:28Then Mr. Nawaz Sharif came.
20:30Now that the Chief Justice
20:32has been re-elected,
20:34Mr. Nawaz Sharif has left.
20:36We will talk about
20:38Mr. Nawaz Sharif's politics
20:40in his own party.
20:42Stay with us after the break.
20:46The 26th amendment has been passed.
20:48But the situation is
20:50more complicated than that.
20:52Many such issues
20:54are not answered in the 26th amendment.
20:56From the establishment of the
20:58Ayni Bench to seniority,
21:00many nuances have been decided.
21:02Now the 27th amendment has to be passed.
21:04The government thinks that the 26th amendment
21:06will bring political stability to some extent.
21:08Mr. Rana Sanaullah
21:10said this.
21:12Justice Mansoor Ali Shah
21:14has said that
21:16the 26th amendment
21:18has been a very complicated amendment.
21:20Because of this,
21:22Pakistan will not be targeted
21:24by those thieves again.
21:26Strong governments,
21:28functional governments
21:30have been destabilized.
21:32There has been a lack of stability in Pakistan.
21:34Now those
21:36doors have also been closed.
21:38The government is very hopeful
21:40that those doors have been closed.
21:42The 27th amendment
21:44will be passed again
21:46with the same exercise.
21:48Consensus is made on the document.
21:50This is the job of the political parties.
21:52But we will have to re-manage
21:54the situation.
21:56We all know that there was a cycle
21:58to re-manage the situation.
22:00Will the same pattern be repeated?
22:02Will the government feel stable
22:04after the amendment?
22:06We have with us Mr. Javed Lazeeb.
22:10Do you share
22:12the confidence of Mr. Lazeeb
22:14that after the 26th amendment
22:16the current political
22:18system is stable?
22:20Do you share
22:22his confidence?
22:24No, I
22:26do not agree with this.
22:28The reason is that
22:30laws have been made
22:32but they are not implemented.
22:34Are there no laws
22:36to stop martial law?
22:38Are there no laws
22:40against martial law?
22:42Martial law is still
22:44implemented.
22:46The question is
22:48that after the amendment
22:50the doors will be closed.
22:52I do not think
22:54that the doors will be closed
22:56only by making laws.
22:58I think that
23:00if the intention is right
23:02and if we have to
23:04follow the laws of Pakistan
23:06and if we are not
23:08doing politics
23:10in the courts
23:12and if we follow the plans
23:14of the future
23:16and if we give justice
23:18to the people
23:20then I think
23:22that the doors will not be closed.
23:24Unfortunately,
23:26the international
23:28forces
23:30in Pakistan
23:32have been
23:34doing a lot
23:36to stop
23:38martial law.
23:40The international
23:42forces
23:44have been
23:46doing a lot
23:48to stop
23:50martial law.
23:52The international
23:54forces
23:56have been
23:58doing a lot
24:00to stop
24:02martial law.
24:32I would like to ask
24:34your permission
24:36to tell me
24:38what crime
24:40did Zulfiqar
24:42Ali Bhutto
24:44commit in the
24:46parliament?
24:48Did he ignore
24:50the importance
24:52of martial law
24:54or did he make
24:56a law?
24:58Three times
25:00did he ignore
25:02the importance
25:04of martial law
25:06or did he make
25:08a law?
25:10Three times
25:12did he ignore
25:14the importance
25:16of martial law
25:18or did he make
25:20a law?
25:22Three times
25:24did he ignore
25:26the importance
25:28of martial law
25:30or did he make
25:32a law?
25:58I wish
26:00like you,
26:02but I think
26:04that as long as
26:06foreign interference
26:08is increasing in Pakistan,
26:10which is not able
26:12to protect the interests
26:14of Pakistan from the
26:16parliament to the
26:18legal bodies,
26:20unfortunately
26:22and painfully,
26:24the legal bodies
26:26and the
26:28parliament
26:30and the
26:32media houses
26:34of the world
26:36should be ashamed
26:38of the way
26:40the world
26:42is looking at us.
26:44No one is looking at us
26:46with a good eye.
26:48I agree with you.
26:50Let's move forward.
26:52The issue is that
26:54when
26:56Nawaz Sharif
26:58wanted to become
27:00the Chief Justice,
27:02he had to
27:04take a vote.
27:06Now,
27:08he has gone out
27:10for some time.
27:12Is this permanent?
27:14Will he stay for a few months
27:16or a few weeks?
27:18Will he come back
27:20after some time?
27:22Maria,
27:24I regret to say
27:26that when
27:28Qazi Faiz Esa
27:30came, people said
27:32that Nawaz Sharif will come.
27:34Before him,
27:36Chief Justice Bandyal
27:38is the same
27:40who said
27:42good to see you
27:44on 9th, 10th May.
27:46He is the same Chief Justice
27:48who rewrote the constitution.
27:50Before him,
27:52there were Khosa,
27:54Ajaz-ul-Ahsan,
27:56or a few
27:58respectable judges
28:00like
28:02Saqib Nisar.
28:04The decisions
28:06of all these people
28:08regarding Nawaz Sharif,
28:10has anyone
28:12apologized for it?
28:14No.
28:16But you changed
28:18the law.
28:20You appointed a Chief Justice
28:22under the mechanism of
28:24Mushawraj.
28:26He is the seniority
28:28but you changed the law
28:30and elected him.
28:32Now,
28:34do you still have any fear
28:36when Nawaz Sharif
28:38goes out?
28:40Is this the reason
28:42why he went out?
28:44No.
28:46Nawaz Sharif
28:48has to go out
28:50to meet
28:52his close friends
28:54for a check-up.
28:56By the grace of Allah,
28:58I assure you
29:00that
29:02he will be back
29:04in a few weeks.
29:06Fourthly,
29:08I want to tell you
29:10that I have wasted
29:12your time.
29:14You and I
29:16are talking
29:18but the whole world
29:20is listening to us.
29:22Isn't it a fact
29:24that the courts
29:26in Pakistan
29:28create problems
29:30and you punish
29:32Nawaz Sharif
29:34and the state.
29:36Is it a coincidence
29:38that the 190 million
29:40or 910 million
29:42people in India
29:44or in Pakistan
29:46are creating
29:48problems?
29:50Is it a coincidence
29:52that they are
29:54increasing?
29:56Sir,
29:58don't say that
30:00they are still
30:02being facilitated.
30:04I assure you
30:06that a deal
30:08is facilitated.
30:10Things are
30:12revealed
30:14and proven
30:16but
30:18facilitation
30:20sometimes takes
30:22a long time.
30:24I assure you
30:26that facilitation
30:28is still available.
30:30I assure you
30:32that the
30:34respectable
30:36sisters of
30:38the PTI
30:40or
30:42the other
30:44PTI people
30:46are getting
30:48released.
30:50We have
30:5210-12 years old
30:54cases.
30:56We have
30:582-3 governments
31:00but our cases
31:02are still there.
31:04You are saying
31:06that the government
31:08of 18 months
31:10is still facilitated.
31:14Pakistan is the third
31:16worst country for law and order.
31:18This is the report of
31:20World Justice Project.
31:24Welcome back.
31:26We all know that
31:28the situation of law and order
31:30is very bad in Pakistan.
31:32World Justice Project
31:34publishes a report of
31:36law and order in every country.
31:38World Justice Project
31:40publishes a report of
31:42law and order in every country.
31:44Pakistan ranks
31:46129th
31:48out of 142 countries
31:50in terms of
31:52rule of law.
31:54Pakistan ranks
31:565th out of
31:586 countries in terms of
32:00rule of law.
32:02Pakistan ranks
32:04140th out of 142 countries
32:06in terms of rule of law.
32:08Pakistan ranks
32:106th out of 142 countries
32:12in terms of
32:14rule of law.
32:16Pakistan ranks
32:181st out of
32:20124 countries
32:22in terms of
32:24corruption.
32:26Pakistan ranks
32:285th out of
32:30142 countries in terms of
32:32rule of law.
32:34Pakistan ranks
32:36125th out of
32:38142 countries in terms of
32:40rule of law.
32:42Pakistan ranks
32:444th out of
32:46142 countries in terms of
32:48rule of law.
32:50Pakistan ranks
32:526th out of
32:54142 countries in terms of
32:56rule of law.
32:58Pakistan ranks
33:00128th out of
33:02142 countries in terms of
33:04rule of law.
33:06Pakistan ranks
33:084th out of
33:10142 countries in terms of
33:12rule of law.
33:14Pakistan ranks
33:16103th out of
33:18142 countries in terms of
33:20rule of law.
33:22Pakistan ranks
33:245th out of
33:26142 countries in terms of
33:28rule of law.
33:30Pakistan ranks
33:32106th out of
33:34142 countries in terms of
33:36rule of law.
33:38Pakistan ranks
33:404th out of
33:42142 countries in terms of
33:44rule of law.
33:46Pakistan ranks
33:481st out of
33:50142 countries in terms of
33:52rule of law.
33:54Pakistan ranks
33:561st out of
33:58142 countries in terms of
34:00rule of law.
34:02Pakistan ranks
34:041st out of
34:06142 countries in terms of
34:08rule of law.
34:10Pakistan ranks
34:121st out of
34:14142 countries in terms of
34:16rule of law.
34:18Pakistan ranks
34:201st out of
34:22142 countries in terms of
34:24rule of law.