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Video Information: 06.07.2023, GSE, Goa

Context:
देहिनोऽस्मिन्यथा देहे कौमारं यौवनं जरा।
तथा देहान्तरप्राप्तिर्धीरस्तत्र न मुह्यति ॥
Bhagavad Gita - 2.13

~ Why is the above verse highlighted?
~ Why is the above verse a huge threat to our existence?
~ What does it mean if we highlight something in this world?
~ What comes first for the ego?
~ Who is a liberated person?


Music Credits: Milind Date
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Category

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Learning
Transcript
00:00Greetings Benevolence Master. My first question is more of an observation. I am reading Gita
00:14book from a Kindle e-book. Now Kindle provides popular highlights. So Kindle keeps track
00:22of those texts which people are highlighting in their e-books. Now this particular verse,
00:30verse number 30 is one of the most popular highlight of Kindle. This is the verse which
00:37has been most misquoted and misunderstood. Maybe that is the reason that this particular
00:44verse is highlighted the most. Like one highlights the target. Like one has the victim in one's
01:00cross hairs. You highlight that which you want to consume or pray or feast upon. In
01:20that sense, we have highlighted this one. You highlight a potential threat, don't you?
01:28So we have highlighted this one because this verse, if rightly understood, is a huge threat
01:34to our existence. So we have taken great care not to let this one pass safely. We have ensured
01:51that we will corrupt its meaning so that we remain safe. So it's a typical example
02:03of the ego laying its hands on holy scriptures. Yes. Example of the ego identifying a threat
02:15and neutralizing it. And you can extend this observation to all the things in the world
02:32in the sense of our relationship with them. If we are highlighting something in this world,
02:39chances are we are going to destroy and distort it. We do not highlight things because they are
02:49virtuous or truthful. The ego does not want virtue. The ego has nothing for the truth. For the ego,
02:57its own security and preservation come first. So if it just gets a whiff of truth somewhere,
03:09it becomes very alert. Alert not in the sense of getting eager to surrender. Alert not in
03:18the sense of getting eager to welcome the beloved. Alert in the sense of getting ready and aggressive
03:36to counter an enemy. If you find people rushing to temples, you can see what that means. We
04:00highlight temples, don't we? We highlight temples so that we can distort their purpose.
04:18If there is something that the ego gives attention to,
04:24the thing is in danger. It is now running the risk of being misused, misappropriated
04:44and robbed of its authentic nature and purpose.
04:54If the ego says, I love you or I respect you, it's a red flag.
05:09When someone says, I love chicken. Yes, in the same way.
05:14Travellers like Goa. I like a particular mountain when travellers say. In the same way.
05:23My next question is related to, you talked about the life being in a constant movement,
05:35flux. You talked about Buddha. So I have one observation. I was reflecting on this verse
05:41today. I find that there is a conflict between linguistics, language and life. Now life is
05:50continuous, life is dynamic. But language is static. When we say this is a tree. This
05:58is a tree. So it means static. This means static. This is a boy. Whereas what it is
06:08pointing to is continuous. So clearly there is a difference between the tool using which
06:18we explain life, that is language. One almost feels like seeing that it's an intentional
06:25difference. Because if the tree is static, then so is the seer of the tree. So you want
06:36to assert that the ego is an entity. Just as the tree is an entity. It's a thing. Equally
06:45I am a thing. But if you see that the tree is a process, tree is a stream, then you will have
06:51to admit that the ego too is a stream. And if the ego is a stream, then the ego is nothing.
06:55Therefore language has to be deliberately constructed in a way that supports the ego.
07:06If the tree is a flux, then so is the seer of the tree.
07:15Because you said today that seer and the seen are of the same dimension. Now if the seen is in the
07:22flux dimension, that means seer also is in the flux dimension. Yes. And that can even be seen
07:28very logically. You say I am the body. Now your body and the tree's body are very similar. So if
07:36the tree is a flux, so are you because you say you are the body. So we intentionally or maybe
07:49not intentionally also we say this is the body. But I think we have to give the benefit of doubt
07:57to ego because the least count of the senses using which we perceive, it cannot detect very
08:03subtle changes. Now since it cannot detect subtle changes, it is unable to see that it is a flow.
08:10You cannot detect subtle changes in the gross material of the body.
08:14But can't you detect the almost instantaneous changes in your mind and mood?
08:25In a fraction of a second, your universe changes, right?
08:29How did that happen? If you were a static thing,
08:33how did the thing so completely change in almost zero time?
08:51Yes, but okay, okay. I have to think, reflect on this even more because it is very unnatural to,
09:02unnatural, non-biological to know that something is flux. It is very conducive,
09:09biologically conducive. You could look at it in a totally opposite way as well.
09:15This moment you were thinking of somebody as your beloved
09:21and think of your state and think of the meaning that that person has for you.
09:28And then somebody tells you that this person is not that one and your beloved is out there
09:35somewhere. There is a confusion. And see how completely everything has changed.
09:39Immediately.
09:40How immediately? And how then can you miss seeing that everything is a flux?
09:51It's a classic example of that mother in a maternity ward.
09:55Yes.
09:55The mother is having the child and she is caressing the baby and suddenly the nurse says,
10:02by mistake the baby was exchanged and suddenly the string of belongingness is cut.
10:18So, my last question is related to the state of a liberated man. So, you describe the state
10:26of liberated person at two, three places in your discourse. I was reminded of Ramana Maharshi.
10:36I was reading his book Advaita Boddhipika where he explains the state of a man who is egoless,
10:43who is liberated. He says his state is like that of a burnt rope. There is a rope, the burnt rope,
10:51so its shape and size is still maintained, but its ability to tie, but its ability to
10:59be bondaged or bond, that is gone. So, this is a very nice way of putting it. Burnt rope.
11:08Liberated man is a burnt rope.
11:10Externally, just like the rope, but without the typical attributes of the rope.
11:22Or externally, just like anything. Externally, just like anybody else. Internally, nobody.
11:37Like a room that has been vacated.
11:44Like a room you have checked out of. The room is there.
11:48When you are passing through an aisle between a series of rooms,
12:05can you distinguish between rooms that are occupied and that are not? Can you?
12:11No. 106, 107, 108.
12:16So, externally, all the rooms look the same. The liberated person is a room without an occupant.
12:31So, you mean the room, the walls of the room, that is the body. That will be there.
12:38Yes. Yes. Internally, there is nobody making mischief.
12:48Or doing anything else.
12:56Before going, a more befitting example could be
13:01a vacated prison cell. A hotel room
13:11sounds a bit tempting. You know, why should I check out, especially if it is a good hotel?
13:17So, a liberated man is like a vacated prison cell. The cell remains.
13:25The prisoner is gone. The prisoner is free.
13:32Before going, last class, you told many definitions about what is ego.
13:43You also said at the end of the class that today I told so many definitions of the ego.
13:48So, today I was sitting and compiling those definitions. I found 20 definitions.
13:53So, I noted them down and sent to Anmolji and few other people.
13:58Now, one thing I found very common. Last class, you laughed a lot. It means the moment you gave
14:06one line a definition and you exhaled, means you say one line and you laugh and you give another
14:14definition of ego and you laugh. Because I was noting down the definitions, I was hearing this,
14:21every time a definition comes from you, you laugh. So, then I was thinking whether the
14:27wisdom lies in the word or in your laughter. So, it was nice.
14:34It was like, you know, asking whether the real thing is the rain or the thunder.
14:43Nothing. It's just a little more cloudy on a few days.
14:53Just happens. Sometimes, there are the clouds. Sometimes, there is the clear sky. Sometimes,
15:01it rains without the thunder. Sometimes, there is thunder without rain. Sometimes,
15:06there is rain and thunder. Thank you so much.

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