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"Aik Do Din Main New Chief Justice Kay Notification Ka Imkan"...Chaudhr Ghulam Hussain's Reveals Big News
"Aik Do Din Main New Chief Justice Kay Notification Ka Imkan"...Chaudhr Ghulam Hussain's Reveals Big News
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00:00Okay, Mr. Ghulam Shahid, I'll come to you.
00:03Okay, Mr. Ghulam Shahid, Balawal Bhutto Zardari gave an interview last night.
00:09What are your thoughts on the 25th of October date?
00:15As far as the 25th of October is concerned, it's neither necessary nor compulsory.
00:20But 25th of October, I understand the perspective of the government,
00:25that they want it to be before 25th of October.
00:29If I was the law minister and I was a member of the government,
00:34of course I'd want to ensure that this process was completed, if possible,
00:39before the 25th of the 26th.
00:43Mr. Chaudhary, we want to make Balawal Bhutto Zardari Prime Minister.
00:48He says he wants to be the Minister of Justice.
00:52On a lighter note, he says that if I was the Minister of Justice,
00:55I would have done this work before the 25th of October,
00:58because after the 25th of October, the circumstances may not be favourable.
01:02Mr. Chaudhary?
01:04Firstly, I think that the notification of the new Chief Justice is expected by tomorrow or day after.
01:11Secondly, as you have pointed out,
01:15the SCO summit is being held and the world is watching it.
01:23Before that, it is not possible that 10-15 people from outside the country
01:28are asked to come before the 15th of October.
01:31So, this is in the next week and in the next 2-3 days,
01:36if there is a miracle, it should happen first.
01:39So, obviously, whatever the government wants to do,
01:44whether it does it or not, it will have no benefit.
01:48Whatever it is, it will have a loss.
01:50Because they are stuck in such a situation that there is no benefit to it.
01:55The benefit is that they can somehow maintain the status of the Election Commission,
02:00of the Judiciary, etc.
02:02So, they can continue to do whatever they want.
02:04But it seems very, very difficult for them to achieve their objective
02:11to maintain the status quo, which is fast eroding.
02:16And you are meeting a new situation in Pakistan
02:19much earlier than you expect.
02:21Hassan, you have talked about the notification.
02:25In Islamabad, there is a lot of notification.
02:28Fake notifications are also being circulated.
02:30I have a question.
02:32Obviously, it is close to the reality that
02:35on the 26th of October, when Mansoor Ali Shah becomes the Chief Justice,
02:39without this amendment, without the Constitutional Code,
02:42his own decision of the 8-member majority,
02:46the decision of the Chief Justice,
02:49he would want that to be implemented.
02:51So, firstly, tell us about the notification.
02:53And secondly, it seems that the Chief Justice will be Mansoor Ali Shah.
02:59Or do you have other information?
03:01Look, there is no end to the information in this regard.
03:05His seniority principle in Lahore High Court,
03:10there were members of the Judicial Commission,
03:13Chief Justice Qazi Faiza and Justice Mansoor Ali Shah.
03:17And they pushed it.
03:20So, that was also a Constitutional Court.
03:22If you have put the seniority principle there,
03:26and you say that the divorce is only on the Supreme Court,
03:28then I think that in the Supreme Court,
03:30the competence or ability of the judges should be more.
03:35The standard should be better than that.
03:37Then why is the seniority principle kept here?
03:39We are going to different sides.
03:40No, I am saying this.
03:41Look, that is a debate.
03:42Why is it here, why not there, why not in the High Courts?
03:45Now, obviously,
03:46I think that they will not do this in the future,
03:49the notification.
03:51Do you see Justice Mansoor Ali Shah as the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court
03:55with all the powers that are present at the moment?
03:57I doubt it.
03:58You doubt it.
03:59Mr. Nagbir, you are listening,
04:02Mr. Hasan Ayub is very well-connected.
04:04He is saying that I have a doubt
04:06that Justice Mansoor Ali Shah becomes the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
04:11Even if he becomes the Chief Justice,
04:13by that time, there will be another court, the Constitutional Court.
04:17What Mr. Hamdullah has told us,
04:19that the Supreme Court is finished,
04:21there will be no use of it.
04:23All the powers will go to the Constitutional Court.
04:26They will be able to serve the public, sir.
04:28They will be able to serve the public.
04:29These cases, these criminal cases are important.
04:32Yes, that is right.
04:33Mr. Nagbir, what information do you have about this?
04:35Look, the Constitutional Court will be made.
04:37In any case, it will be made in a week or two.
04:40In any case, it will be made.
04:42Mr. Bilawal Bhutto is very focused on it.
04:44And it was the task of Mr. Binazir Bhutto to make the Constitutional Court,
04:49which was also agreed upon by all the political parties in the Charter of Democracy.
04:53So, the Constitutional Court will be made in any case.
04:55Now, it is made in a week, in a month, in two months.
04:58And of course, when the Constitutional Court is made,
05:00the other cases which are not related to the Constitution
05:05will have a separate head to look at them.
05:08And there will be a separate head to look at the Constitutional Court.
05:10So, the powers will be divided.
05:12There is no doubt about it.
05:13But Mr. Mansoor Ali Shah, who is the Chief Justice,
05:15for now, he is the Chief Justice.
05:17And on 25th, he will be the Chief Justice.
05:18After the Constitutional Court is made,
05:20when the Constitutional Court will be made,
05:22he will be the Chief Justice.
05:23And you are saying that you are not sure
05:25whether it will be made before 25th or after 25th.
05:28It will be made whenever it is made.
05:29The Constitutional Court will be made in any case.
05:30It will be made.
05:31The Constitutional Court will be made or not.
05:32I want to give a small example on IPC.
05:34On IPC, first of all, we raised our voice.
05:37Before that, there was no discussion.
05:38Then everyone started talking.
05:40And then you saw that it has been terminated.
05:43Five or six companies have been withdrawn.
05:45The rest will also be terminated.
05:46So, in the same way, the issue of the Constitutional Court
05:48which is being continued,
05:49you see it so strongly,
05:50it is being done because it will be made.
05:52Absolutely right.