Where is the discipline? Are the Patriots underutilizing the run game? Is Jerod Mayo in a tough spot?
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00:00How are you? I'm good. I'm good man. Good to be back in the studio with you guys. Yeah, you all better after the bubble
00:06Guts. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm feeling good now. I mean drinkin Corvus all that good stuff
00:11Virus or something you ate
00:18But it was it was it was quick, you know, I'm just say better safety. Sorry
00:22Pauline
00:27Chime said earlier that Drake May is already getting fantasy point in
00:33Fantasy football in advance of this week. I don't know who knows what but is it is it May time as far as you're concerned?
00:41Yeah, it's good. Got a call Mayday Mayday. Come on in
00:44It's that time but I was like five games five. So I think I said that earlier, but look at the protection guys
00:50Let's just talk about how bad of an example of a football game and both of those teams was it wasn't just a Patriots
00:57That look bad. God damn it, Miami look bad, too
01:00You know what? I mean that was just bad football all the way around but it's time
01:04We let the young boy go out there and play
01:07Understanding that they got to pick up on that protection. They don't have much protection
01:11So I see where coach Mayo was going with it by not throwing that boy into the fire because you can't protect
01:17You know a vet, you know, so you get a little gunshot, but that that offensive line defensive line
01:22They need to fix that immediately. Well not defending the offensive line, but don't you feel like more so this week than
01:30previous weeks
01:31It was on Jacoby Brissett and not on he holds on to the ball. We're not on the protection
01:37I mean, I know they're called covered sacks, but he
01:41He got to get to the point where you got to let your nuts drop and guess what every now and then you got to
01:46Throw the ball before the guy called a plays Dan where you can get it out quick
01:49I mean, obviously he's dropping back and they're getting to him to lie
01:53Don't do it is not protect but there were times when he had time to throw
01:58he's just so gun-shy on turning the ball over that he's not even willing to risk a
02:05Throw unless he sees his guy wide open, but that's not the NFL
02:09I said I hear this too when it comes to arguing for Jacoby Brissett the play calling
02:15So is is your issue more Alex van Pelt than it is Jacoby Brissett?
02:24Everybody quarterbacked it all time
02:25But I mean look at the office if that's the case, you don't fix it by putting Drake May in this week
02:30I like but Gerard kept saying yesterday like it was a breakdown in execution
02:35So that fault that falls on Jacoby that doesn't fall on the play calling like so
02:39Execution doesn't necessarily mean the quarterback. It could mean the offensive line play executing them getting your assignments
02:46I mean they are getting to that man so quick
02:49I would blitz him every single time until they figure it out and they haven't figured it out even in the
02:56Man, Drake May is gonna have you gonna have a time
03:00You don't have a time on his hands because he's not being protected and the only thing that
03:04that can happen is he the step up and show some promise and get some confidence or
03:09it can go the other way and we've both been around long enough to see that when you put a young quarterback in the
03:13game and
03:14He's not doing anything. Now. You got the pressure of everyone coming in at you
03:21But at this point in time, you're the number three overall pick and I look at it like this team stinks
03:26They're not making the playoffs. It's now like put him in to get him as much experience as possible
03:34Now's the time to get him. So then when this season's over in the offseason, he can now sit down with the coaches
03:42Self-evaluate where he is and say here's what I need to work on. Here's what I need to do better
03:47Here's the mistakes that I made. Here's what I would do different in this situation. The other thing I talked about was
03:54Just to see his
03:56developmental growth
03:58Mentally from week to week is he still making the same?
04:02Simple mistakes that he made in week six right that he's making a week eight
04:08He's gonna get better, you know, once he get in he's gonna have his rookie mistakes
04:12like a like said the quarterback position is very hard to pick up at this level, but the
04:18Officer coordinator you got to get your boys up front together. They need to call scar neck
04:23You're back on something, you know, I'm having come in for a couple days a week, you know to get these boys ready man because
04:30Your third overall like I said, he's sitting in there. You're gonna have to play him
04:34You're gonna see what he has to do. You do not want to get him hurt
04:37You know me you don't you don't want to let him lose confidence. And also you got to get in some damn talent
04:43I'm still trying to figure out who's these receivers. We got somebody got to say it
04:47We don't know who they are. I don't either cuz they don't throw the ball
04:50I don't know how good Jalen Paul could be
04:52But we all they also all need to step up if you believe the fact that there's reports of them teetering on a mutiny because they
04:58Want Drake May in there? Well, if you want this guy in there, then you better
05:01How are you gonna teeter on a mutiny and you losing getting your ass with?
05:07My bad shot. Hey, but how you go you can't mutiny and calling you can't pick it
05:18Well knows doing all the picketing it's you know, you've been around long enough to know like I've been around long enough to know
05:24It's the receivers and the receivers are upset because they ain't getting the ball. They're the biggest voices in there
05:30now if you have somebody let's say
05:32Randy Moss, okay, Vontae Adams. All right, you know Tyreek Hill
05:36All right, and you gotta you know, you can rally the troops and maybe hey guys
05:40We gonna do this and we gonna call a picket
05:47Okay pop does y'all go out there and pick it and say something you'll be standing out there by your damn self
05:52Ain't nobody following y'all, but that's the talent they got though. Exactly
05:56So guess what? You can't pick it till you get some talent
05:58You can't sit there and even make an argument because you haven't done anything if you're making this quarterback
06:03Better and he just not getting you're catching balls and you got numbers
06:07That's one thing but no one is gonna listen or follow a guy that's on, you know
06:12Damn near out one foot out the door. Anyway, I hate this argument because it's the NFL and so it shouldn't matter
06:18but when it comes to the
06:20Confidence of Drake May have you put yourself in a bad spot because if you are gonna start them
06:27You're gonna start them against a really good Texans team. Ah
06:33I would have waited till after this game, you know me, but then you're going to London, huh?
06:37Then you're gonna go to London so you can blame it on a jet lag when he
06:43Builds not that good
06:45Jacksonville, they ain't great
06:47But I say this is the time now great that you have to put him into the game
06:50You can see what he gonna do. We all understand that. Yeah, yeah
06:54Likely not going to the playoffs. So if you're going if you do have a chance, let's give it with the young boy
06:59But okay, this is a rebuilding year. We all understand that
07:02We just expected you to compete a little bit better and be a little bit more competitive
07:06You know what I mean, but outside of that
07:10It's gonna be a whole revamp again because some of these guys a lot of these guys won't be here next year
07:15We had teams where you might lose one or two guys. They replaced but you're gonna get rid of
07:22seven eight nine
07:24possibly
07:25So-called core guys with this team
07:28well
07:28Greg was you were right when you said it should have been last week against a crappy Miami team with no
07:34Quarterback is when you should have put Drake May in and gave him the car
07:37But now you're at the point of basically listen, we got to throw you in the deep end baptism by fire
07:43whatever
07:44Whatever cliche you want to call it
07:46We need to just throw you in there and just say to the kid no matter how many mistakes you make
07:51You're our guy. We understand it. Just we want to see you improve week to week in small areas
07:58Do you think Curtis tie wiggy Courtney shine?
08:02Do you think what has gone on in the last 24 hours?
08:07with Chabril Peppers is
08:11Another reason
08:13Fan wise perception wise to start Drake May because you remove the narrative there. I don't think it's fan wise
08:20I would say that if I'm Jonathan and Robert Kraft, it would be a great way to move the attention away
08:29This is a great time for that because you know so much negativity is surrounding what's going on right now the
08:37Allegations, we don't know what's true. What's not true?
08:39But putting Drake May in the driver's seat will definitely take some of the pressure off and you know
08:45You will spin it that way, you know what I mean?
08:48Yeah, people are gonna go back to Curtis's lead this morning
08:51I don't speak for Curtis, but Curtis your lead this morning was the way Mayo addressed that on this show yesterday
08:56You didn't think was
08:59Was the best? Yeah, I he spoke with him
09:02Gerard Mayo told us he spoke with
09:04Jibril Peppers after he was arrested and I asked if he was still on the team and Gerard Mayo said, you know
09:10Once you get all the facts, you know, you'll understand it, but I can't speak further or something to that effect
09:16We don't know essentially paraphrasing, but we will chime you can probably find it
09:20But we don't know all the information all the information and to me if I am Gerard Mayo and I bet I may completely
09:27trust your bill peppers and he may be getting
09:30Wrongfully accused of something horrific, but until I have the other side's info, I would just simply say
09:37We we want to wait and see what happened here
09:39We want to collect all the information before we make a judgment until then Jibril Peppers will be out of the facility
09:45That's how when you're talking about
09:48Strangulation and assault against a woman. I just don't think you want to have any part of that, right? I mean
09:54Let me him leaving the building have you handle maybe he didn't you know articulated the way that
10:00Most people may have wanted him to articulate it, but it's still allegations
10:05No, no it is
10:06I'm not, you know taking his side because you know
10:08No, man should put his hands on a woman period point-blank period, you know what I mean?
10:13But it's still allegations at this point and I was saying something earlier
10:18Like I said, this is no way defending him, but I've seen a situation, you know with a teammate and
10:27We were supposed to go back to training camp and we rode home together we lived in the same community
10:32I go and pick him up to get back to training camp for meetings and next thing, you know
10:38He's the girls banging on his door
10:42police end up coming he called the police and
10:46Soon as they got there, she said he hit me
10:52No
10:54No, it was not Tom Brady and I want to want to bring it up, but I'm just saying for an example
10:58They took him to jail. I had to go back to the coach and say hey I was there
11:04He did not put his hands on her that I got it out
11:06And but soon as he got in the police car, what did she do?
11:09She looked at him stuck her tongue out and flipped in a bird's-eye
11:13You know and it was it was really messed up, but I happen to seen him with I was the witness
11:17So, yeah, of course nothing happened, but I'm not saying what whatever happens with him
11:21Yeah, you got to see what what it really is because sometime, you know, it goes down there like this
11:28But if you put your hand on a woman you wrong as hell and he should get reprimanded for it
11:32It's hard in these cases to figure out what really happened cuz I said he said
11:38What's the allegation the allegation is from the police report is
11:43That they were they were being intimate
11:474 a.m
11:49involved in intimacy. Yep
11:51and
11:53Her phone rang. Mm-hmm, and it was a dude
11:57Okay, that was calling during the act and that upset so we came on the song
12:02Ginuwine and that upset that upset gibberell peppers and then that's where they had an
12:10altercation
12:11He says that he told her to leave and that she fell she was intoxicated and fell going down the stairs
12:19she says that he
12:21Grabbed her around the neck and and a horrible did horrible things to her and that's so yes, you know
12:27so basically
12:29Her did gibberell supposed to be a boy
12:33Was it a ringtone what came on it? I'm guessing it was just a name
12:37But I'm saying though, how are you engaged intimacy and phone hearing the phone ring?
12:43You must not been doing too well because you worried about somebody damn fine. It happens in happens in Canton, Massachusetts
12:50Apparently all the time
12:52They can't hear the phone
12:54But she got one of those rings, you know, like my man might had a ringtone that wasn't he is no no
12:59You know, you have the ring the ringtones nowadays where it's like your kids calling or the wife's call
13:05It'll tell you who's calling. Maybe the ringtone was like Steph Diggs is calling
13:09He was like don't but don't don't the New England Patriots have to say Greg
13:15Is it true that your ringtone for Lindsey is my heart will go on?
13:18I
13:20Should have I don't know if I knew how to set up a ringtone we can do that technology wise
13:24Yeah, I would do that. I don't think anybody's doing that no more Greg
13:27We've got a merge your iPod shuffle to your phone at some point do that
13:31They're gonna really look at you as being a boomer you but how do you go from?
13:34That over a phone call if you're supposed to be intimate somebody consensual to be like that don't that don't sound right to me
13:40I feel like we're we're burying the lead here, which is that
13:45However, it happened, right?
13:47She is alleging that something awful happened. And so if you're the New England Patriots, don't you have to say?
13:54You know
13:55We got a you got to stay away until this is yeah
14:00Because the precedent was already set by in the league so many others including, you know with the Ray Rice situation
14:07You know not to bring up, you know his situation, but the precedent has already been set
14:11So I think that keeping him away from the building away from the distractions put in
14:17Drake may sort of focus to go back to football until the
14:22Investigation until the trial I think that would be the best thing to do
14:24So that could be months down the road
14:26But what I said is for if you're the Patriots organization
14:29It's a much better look if you take him out of the building and it ends up not being anything
14:36if this video is that his defense team says that they have then if you play him and it turns out that he strangled a
14:42woman hit her head up against the
14:45The wall numerous times threw her down a flight of stairs and then locked her out of the house naked
14:49Hey, and if he did that he need his ass whoop
14:52I'm gonna say that right here. If anything like that anything closer like that happened
14:58He need to get reprimanded ass whoop. Where's a brother? Where's a daddy, right? You know what I mean?
15:03That's that's that's what I'm talking about. But if it's something that's a false claim, you know, right?
15:08Yeah, just get out the building. Yeah, then everything will be okay when you come back
15:12But unfortunately, you have to go through all the ridicule and the media and the speculation right now
15:17But hey, I wouldn't even want to come to the building
15:20I wouldn't want to sit there and distract my teammates right and and and be there in the meeting like it didn't have to tell
15:26Anybody and people looking at you sideways so he he shouldn't even want to be down in the building