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00:00Mr. Debrow, do you have anyone else that we can call to talk to to see where you can go?
00:13I'm not letting you out on the street.
00:14I'm going to tell you that now.
00:16So unless you got someone, I'm not because that's all my close friend, okay, and he will
00:23let me stay at his place.
00:24He picks up bread for a living and delivers bread for a living.
00:30He sounds like an upstanding guy.
00:32So far, as far as the numbers he gave me, he gave me his mom's number.
00:40Mom's number rang one time and that was that.
00:43What happened?
00:44Did it go to voicemail or what?
00:45Pretty much.
00:46Yes.
00:47It goes straight to voicemail.
00:48And sometimes it says the voicemail is not set up.
00:49Mr. Debrow, how old are you, sir?
00:5024, sir.
00:51Okay.
00:52Who do you have in your life?
00:53Where's mom?
00:54My mom.
00:55My mom, she stays in another, in the military.
00:56She stays in the military.
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05:19Thenrator.
05:20And the end all correspondency,
05:22any any channel or area where both of the
05:22basically means.
05:23I think the longest of our timeline.
05:24They both times that we have him looked through.
05:26Because with the analog,
05:27we only know if you've tried to get in the car this
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05:30your going to blow with here.
05:31I know day 24
05:32hours a day,
05:33You need to get back to mom, Mr. Devereux.
05:40What you're doing here, living with your friend, that's not going to last forever.
05:46Your mother is something that'll last forever.
05:47She'll hopefully take you in unless you're just a really bad person.
05:53The thing is, is that you continue to rack up criminal cases and you're going to mess
05:58with the wrong person, or you're going to end up in there with a 25-year sentence.
06:04I'm trying to prevent that from happening.
06:06If I just let you out on your own, within five months, we're going to see you back.
06:12You want to make a bet?
06:13Really?
06:14I'll do this.
06:15And I'm going to tell you now, if I see you back, holy moly, I'm going to light you up.
06:24I will notate every single thing that we're doing here, Mr. Devereux.
06:28I want you to understand, you come back here with a new case because I have jurisdiction
06:31over you for the next five years.
06:32If I see you back here because you try to thieve from someone else, if you want money,
06:40go do it the right way.
06:41Get a damn job.
06:44Did you even graduate from high school?
06:48I'm not taking this.
06:49I want him on probation.
06:50No, I'm not taking this.
06:51No.
06:52I got my GED.
06:53No.
06:54I got my GED.
06:55But no, I did not graduate.
06:56I got my GED.
06:57When did you get your GED?
06:58I got my GED not so long after I graduated.
06:59Not so long after I didn't graduate.
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13:09Understood.
13:18Do you think I should do some sort of deferred plea today or are you going to let him out
13:21on a bond?
13:22So we're going to have to come back and put him in this program?
13:26I think that might be the better way to go here.
13:30Right.
13:31So, I mean, what this says, this says DWI young adult caseload.
13:36It also says the GED rate in this program.
13:39How old are you, sir?
13:41Twenty three.
13:42Twenty three.
13:43You don't you didn't even graduate from high school.
13:45That's something else that we're going to work on because you cannot go through life
13:48without at the minimum a high school diploma.
13:50That would be great.
13:51Through a deferred or how?
13:52Or through what?
13:53Pavel, what do you say?
13:55We need to go to you without a record.
14:09You can give him a deferred.
14:10Well, I don't know if you're OK with that.
14:13I think the policy is their policy.
14:16I don't know.
14:17It's it's it's time served is a bad move in this case.
14:23I'm not asking the same thing.
14:26OK.
14:27Time, sir.
14:28It's a really bad move.
14:29It's we're setting him up for failure.
14:31So I don't want to do that.
14:33So the young adult caseload and we can get him a GED.
14:38We can pay for everything.
14:39They do SOP and IOP as well.
14:41Yeah.
14:42And then the sanction is he goes in inpatient.
14:44You care if we go without a record, let the judge defer all those conditions.
14:49Either way, I don't whatever you want.
14:50It doesn't matter.
14:51But I think that that's.
14:57You see, that's OK.
15:01Are you sure?
15:02Yes.
15:03I think so.
15:05What we're trying to do and I want you to understand there's a big difference because a deferred is a type of probation.
15:11That is, if you can complete it, you don't end up with a conviction.
15:15What is very important on this DWI, because once you get a DWI on your record, officers all over the country will completely harass you anytime you're ever in a car and you have a remote smell of alcohol or dope.
15:30This keeps you from having that on your record if you can complete it successfully.
15:36But I want you to understand if you violate this, you pick up, you use, you do anything.
15:45And I'm going to put you in a rehab facility.
15:47Understood.
15:49Where are you living now?
15:51I'm living with at the shop I work at.
15:54Where are your folks?
15:57My sister, she's in Chattanooga and my mom.
15:59I said folks, not sister.
16:01My mom's in jail and my dad, I don't know.
16:05The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, man.
16:07See what I mean?
16:09What's your mom in jail for?
16:10I'm not sure.
16:11I wasn't raised with her.
16:12I was raised with my aunt and uncle.
16:14Okay.
16:15Where's dad?
16:16Dad?
16:17Nowhere to be seen.
16:18Some structure, man.
16:21So, aunt, was it the one that raised you?
16:25Mm-hmm.
16:26Will she take you back now?
16:27I think so, yeah.
16:29I believe if I talk to her, she will take me back.
16:34It scares me to let you out on the street, Mr. Guzman,
16:37because if I let you out on the street and you continue to hang
16:40out with the people that you do when you pick up this case,
16:43you're going to be right back into it.
16:46Do you speak Spanish?
16:48I speak bilingual, yes.
16:50Dime con quien andas, yo te digo quien eres.
16:53Did you understand what I said?
16:54Yeah.
16:55Tell me who you hang around with, I'll tell you who you are.
16:58Right.
16:59That's exactly right.
17:01Let's do the, yeah.
17:03Do you want me to do the deferred?
17:05Yeah.
17:06Yeah, let's do the deferred.
17:07If you don't mind, I haven't talked to him about the deferred yet.
17:10I mean, we could probably take care of it.
17:12No, no, no, no.
17:13So, what I was thinking, yeah, an 18-month deferred with this as the primary.
17:21Sure.
17:23The primary goal is to do two things,
17:26maintain sobriety and number two, to get a high school diploma.
17:31And if you can do those two things, you'll be doing great with us.
17:35All I want you to do is be sober and to get your high school diploma.
17:39Once you can do that, I'll cut you loose.
17:42All right.
17:43Okay.
17:44Sure.
17:45Are you okay with that?
17:46I already refiled the paperwork three days ago.
17:48So, whenever that goes through, we can actually.
17:50Yeah, while we wait for that, let me just talk to him.
17:52We'll come right before you.
17:54All right, gentlemen, come on this way for him.
17:56Excellent.