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Constitutional Amendments | Government Ready to Talk with Opposition ? | Rana Ahsan Afzal Analysis
Constitutional Amendments | Government Ready to Talk with Opposition ? | Rana Ahsan Afzal Analysis
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00:00Talking to Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf or talking to the opposition,
00:04which is a major part of Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf, whether they are PTI or SIC,
00:08do you have any intention of talking to them?
00:10Because the JUI is expecting from you that the government will do this work
00:15because the government itself is bringing the reforms.
00:18In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
00:20Look, there is definitely a connection with the JUIF,
00:23and not only our connection,
00:25but there is also a connection with Bilawal Bhutto Sahib and the People's Party.
00:29As far as talking to PTI or SIC is concerned,
00:34there was no official contact,
00:37but there is a forum in the committee parliament,
00:41where there has been a discussion,
00:43but not to the extent that there is a detailed discussion with them.
00:48But it is certain that the stance of PTI or all the people with this Jamaat is very clear
00:57that they are not interested in any kind of reforms,
01:02and they do not intend to sit with us.
01:06But I would like to clarify one thing here,
01:09that until there is no two-thirds,
01:11this government is thinking of not tabling it.
01:15Right now, we are moving towards a larger consensus,
01:18where you can see that Azam Nazeer Tariq Sahib is also going to the bars
01:23and discussing these reforms.
01:25And in the same way, Bilawal Sahib is also doing this work.
01:28Mr. Rana, I am sorry I am cutting you short,
01:31but without including PTI, a larger consensus will not be understood.
01:37You can include Vukla, you can include journalists, you can include anyone,
01:41but if you do not make the Jamaats present in the parliament a part of it,
01:45then that larger consensus will not be considered.
01:48Now, at 8 o'clock in the show,
01:50Mr. Samman Akram said that the intellectual addition in the reforms
01:59is that Pakistan is ready to take action,
02:01but because it does not agree with the parliament, it will not be a part of it.
02:04So, are you ready to take that intellectual addition from PTI or not?
02:08First of all, this Jamaat should decide
02:12whether it wants to sit with the government or not.
02:15So far, their attitude is absolutely clear that they do not want to sit with the government.
02:20But the government absolutely needs to engage them.
02:24But if they have not done it yet,
02:27then the major reason for that is that they do not have the attitude to sit with the government.
02:31So, you will not even reach out to them because their attitude is bad,
02:35that is why we are not doing this work.
02:37Their failure is with them, your action is with you.
02:40Are you planning to contact or get in touch with them or not?
02:44Look, officially, no such plan has been made yet
02:47to sit with them on the reforms
02:50or to form a delegation from their side to sit together.
02:55But this can definitely be thought about.
02:59But no such step has been taken by the government yet.
03:03Got you.
03:04Senator Humayun Mohan,
03:06has Pakistan taken action, Mr. Maulana, or directly?
03:11Like Salman Akram Raj has said,
03:16intellectual addition can be done,
03:19but legally, legislatively, we will not be a part of it.
03:23So, if they are ready to do intellectual addition,
03:26then if the government contacts Mr. Pakistan Tehreek-e-Azam,
03:30which they are not doing yet, unfortunately,
03:32but if they do, then will the PTI welcome them
03:36or outrightly reject them?
03:41In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
03:43This is your name and that is your path.
03:45Look, what I have understood,
03:47the meaning of intellectual addition is
03:50that the professionals,
03:53what is wrong with them, what is not,
03:56that thing, as a lawyer,
03:58or as a constitutional,
04:00there are some experts,
04:02they can give them,
04:03because we have lawyers,
04:05good, well-educated lawyers,
04:07so they can help them as a political party.
04:10Look, it is a simple thing,
04:12I have a question,
04:14it is a simple thing,
04:15we want to put basic changes in a constitution,
04:18this is the way of running this country,
04:22it is the way, it is manual,
04:24we want to put basic changes in it.
04:27We say, instead of petrol,
04:29we will put kerosene oil in it.
04:32Now, we will have to see,
04:34if two-thirds majority,
04:36means three out of five passengers,
04:38they say, yes, put it in it,
04:40you will put it in it,
04:42no, you will not.
04:43After that, you will see everything,
04:45you will call people,
04:46you will bring consensus on it,
04:48someone will say,
04:49we will have to change the engine in it,
04:51we will have to do something,
04:52in the end, you will bring everything,
04:54you will bring it as a whole.
04:56In the history of Pakistan,
04:58three or four constitutions have come,
05:00which were single-handedly,
05:02or were bulldozed,
05:03all of them failed.
05:05Then, in 1973,
05:07a constitution was made,
05:09which was made with overall consensus.
05:13Now, you have to bring small changes in it,
05:16but when you have to bring big changes,
05:18for example,
05:19you want to bring a big change in it,
05:21I don't know,
05:23whether you call it a constitution,
05:25or you want to bring a constitution,
05:27its implications are not small.
05:30Now, in a program,
05:32Mr. Senedi,