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00:00The issue is not about just prasad, it is the way we run temples, it is the way we jump
00:08into conclusions.
00:10And the attack on Sanatana Dharma has been consistent all through these decades.
00:16Desecration happened, the simple thing is we should nab the culprits or someone, maybe
00:21it's a simple, if you strip everything, it is a simple food adulteration.
00:27Problem with such occurrences, such situations happens, the attack is more from Hindus, within
00:34Hindus.
00:35These Hindus, they say they are Hindus, but they don't have respect for Sanatana Dharma.
00:41When a Muslim wants to eat meat, it should be halal certified, done in a halal manner.
00:48Imagine if it is not done, it is an issue.
00:52Same thing happens in a Hindu, a Hindu won't get the support.
00:55When did we comment on Jagan, we are commenting on TTT board, I personally, I am saying it
01:00on record right now, I didn't comment on Mr. Jagan, Prakash Rajgaru, there is no need
01:05for him to comment on this.
01:06I never wanted to be deputy CM, I never wanted to be an actor, I never wanted to be a political
01:11leader, I never, all the things I wanted, good for my nation, good for my society.
01:15Hello and welcome to One India.
01:18Joining me right now is the Deputy Chief Minister of the state of Andhra Pradesh, the Jana Sena
01:24Party Chief and famously known to movie fans as Powerstar.
01:29Sir, first question to you, your journey from being Powerstar to the Deputy Chief Minister
01:36of the state of Andhra Pradesh hasn't been a smooth one.
01:39You've seen your ups, you've seen your downs, from not, from winning one seat in 2019 to
01:44having a 100% win record in 2024.
01:48If you were to describe your journey, what would, how would you describe it and how has
01:53it been, sir?
01:54I don't know, I never felt that way, I never judged myself, but there was, I can say, I
02:04get these words, it's chaotic, turbulent and stable.
02:17It was not an easy path and I never wanted to be in the films in the first place, in
02:29the first place I never wanted to be in films and my thought was always, I don't know, maybe
02:37I was in search of something, I don't know what it was, maybe when I was pursuing my
02:45school or maybe I did just two years of my college, I had quit college, I was not happy
02:53the way they teach me and I was, I don't know, right from my childhood, my, I mean, especially
03:00from 8th grade and 9th grade, my thought was that education and employability were two
03:08big things for me.
03:09I said, if I learn this, what do I get?
03:12Because I felt my heart is something, it wasn't something else.
03:16So school was not teaching that.
03:17So from there, the reason why I said it was chaotic and turbulence, in between every part
03:27of my life was very chaotic and turbulent, but I was looking for some stability in that.
03:31So that's why I think immediately these are the three words which followed, right from
03:36education, in films, I never wanted to be an actor.
03:42My brother was an actor, my brother is an actor and he wanted to ask me, he never asked
03:47me in the first place, but a lot of people around me, they used to ask, but I was interested
03:53in many things.
03:54I want to, for me, the simple quest is just to learn, that's it, nothing else.
03:59Just to learn for the sake of it.
04:02In that process, I got exposed to many things, maybe political ideology, history, you name
04:08it, science and everything.
04:11So I don't know what I would be hooked to, do I like this, do I like that, I don't know.
04:14So finally, but one thing was consistent right from my childhood till today, it is injustice.
04:23That is one consistent part.
04:26And I used to, whatever I am today, is only to answer my own queries, my own confusions.
04:33In that process, I think, to get a clarity about myself, I think I was doing this journey,
04:38including political journey.
04:41So from actor, I said, I was clueless, I was in a spiritual pursuit.
04:49I thought, why did I get into a spiritual pursuit is, when you don't want to change
04:54the world, when you can't change the world, you're helpless and you're disillusioned.
04:59For me, I found escape in going to ashrams and getting, you know, or else gain a lot
05:06of powers.
05:07Superior means, what do you call it, spiritual powers, and use it for society.
05:13That was the thought.
05:14Then I, at one point of time, I realized, it's not leading anywhere, that even if you
05:20get in that kind of powers, it won't take you anywhere.
05:28But the real action is to do it in a very practical, practical manner.
05:36So finally, from my spiritual quest, I want to make a living, because by then I was 22
05:43or 23, I said, God, I didn't do anything.
05:48And someone offered, why don't you do films, I don't know how to do, though my brother
05:51is an actor, I don't know how to perform.
05:55So by lack of choice, I got into acting, somehow it worked, but I was always a keen learner.
06:02So I learned the filmmaking aspect, and normally I'm a guy who gives his best for any situation
06:08which comes to him.
06:10So from there, actor, and always that social injustice was always there, that's one consistent
06:17aspect that made me to plunge into politics.
06:21Who would have believed that somebody who never wanted to be an actor today has a place
06:27in the hearts of crores of people.
06:29That's a strange one.
06:30Yes, sir.
06:31So coming to the issue at hand, a very serious one, you've been at the forefront of it.
06:37You've spoken extensively, and you've been very vocal about the Sanatana Dharma, and
06:41the need to form a particular board.
06:45The first question, sir, where is the issue at, at this point in time, in terms of action?
06:52What can we expect from the state government?
06:54Because multiple organisations have come out, somebody has seeked for a court-ordered probe,
06:59somebody has seeked for a CBI probe, there are all sorts of messaging coming out.
07:04No, why don't you, see people are looking at it as a Prasad issue.
07:11For me, I'm not looking at it as an issue of Prasad.
07:15Definitely it is an issue.
07:18I think most of them, I think, in general, not, not everybody I can say, but in general,
07:24the general public I can say, I don't know about the organisation heads and much, I'm
07:27not talking about them, but let it be political parties or political commentators, they're
07:34thinking Laddu or Prasad as just one issue.
07:39I'm not, they don't know the before of it and post, pre and post.
07:49The issue is not about just Prasad.
07:53It is the way we run temples.
07:56It is the way we jump into conclusions.
08:01And the attack on Sanatana Dharma has been consistent all through these decades.
08:11Ever since, I mean, at least, I can say, at least, ever since I come of, maybe a little
08:18awakening which I had around what is happening around me, say, at least three or two, four
08:23decades, right from I was 14, I'm aware, I was always aware.
08:30For me, I prefer equality.
08:37The issue is not about today, okay, today it is Prasad, Laddu, you know, the desecration
08:45or whatever thing, sanctity of Prasad.
08:49Okay, we'll find the, we'll find the culprits, we'll punish them, let it be CBI or, let it
08:59be CBI or anybody, whichever authority, but the issue is, they might resolve it, they
09:07will resolve it, definitely.
09:09The culprits will be punished, but what I'm looking at is beyond this.
09:16We have to find a mitigation mechanism to confront such happenings, occurrences in future.
09:28And that is very essential for the health of our democracy.
09:33The problem with such occurrences, such situation happens, the problem is Hinduism, the attack
09:42on such situation is not from, I predominantly don't see it much from Muslim society or the
09:52Christians, I mean, from Christians.
09:55The attack is more from Hindus, within Hindus.
10:00These Hindus, the so-called, they say they're Hindus, but they don't have respect for Sanatana
10:06Dharma, and they comment easily, and they are the ones to be corrected in the first place.
10:13Are you hinting at a lack of unity?
10:15It's not lack of unity, lack of, there is enough, unity is not the issue.
10:25There is some cohesiveness is lacking.
10:30Got it.
10:31See, the Sanatana Dharma allows you to be, okay, this is an ever-evolving religion.
10:39There are no fixed tenets, okay, this is right, this is wrong.
10:43This is ever-evolving.
10:46Always there is a lot of amendments can be done.
10:50Time to time, it keeps happening.
10:55What was right for certain times, okay, we make corrections.
10:58That is, Sanatana Dharma keeps on evolving.
11:01It keeps on integrating.
11:03It lets you, even if you're a hardliner, if you're an atheist, you have a space.
11:10You can express yourself, but what I'm saying is everyone is bound to have views.
11:14I don't have any problem.
11:17But, because people keep quiet, that has become a regular occurrence to attack it.
11:24For me, today, the Laddu Prasad issue is what anyone should have done.
11:28Some kind of desecration happened.
11:31The simple thing is, we should nab the culprits or someone, maybe it's a simple,
11:36if you strip everything, it is a simple food adulteration.
11:41What I look at is, some kind of desecration happened,
11:46which a group of people finds it, makes it, it's a holy prasad for them.
11:52Because that's the nearest way to be more closer to God.
11:57Consuming, taking the prasad of Lord Balaji is a, I'm blessed,
12:03and it has certain norms, certain ways of making it.
12:07Imagine, people who does Raza in Ramzan time, they don't eat, from morning to evening.
12:20And imagine, some desecration happens.
12:26It will, it hurts every Muslim.
12:31The faith says, I don't want to, we are not supposed to do,
12:36you have to do fasting from sunrise to sunset.
12:41That is, their faith said that, and they're following it.
12:46So, how you do this?
12:48And also, when you say, okay, when a Muslim wants to eat meat,
12:52it should be halal certified, done in a halal manner.
12:57Imagine, if it is not done, at least it is an issue.
13:05We cannot question, okay, why did, why do you want to do it?
13:07You say, but look at that, an average Muslim personality says,
13:10hey, that's what I believe, that's what I say, I don't want to do.
13:14But the problem is, same thing happens in a Hindu, in the Hindu system.
13:20The question comes from, if some kind of such violation happens,
13:24a Hindu won't get the support, from his own Hindus, fellow Hindus.
13:29They are so divided, disintegrated, and that's the issue.
13:36So, regarding Tirupati Prasad, also the same issue.
13:38It is a set of norms are there.
13:41These norms happen, it evolved since 700 years.
13:46And last 300 years, the concept of all the,
13:50it used to be called boondi, so it was like, you know,
13:54it was not rolled into a rounded ball, so a shape.
13:58And finally, in 300 years back, they made it, it's more easy to offer this way.
14:03And a lot of reverence and devotion goes into that quality.
14:06How do you, why do we wash feet and go and so, why do we take shower?
14:13Because it is way of cleansing, and it's a purification.
14:16Because it is way of cleansing, and it's a purification process.
14:20You do with the purity, prayer should be done at a purity level.
14:23The prasad to be offered, it should be with the complete purity.
14:27So, what are the ingredients go into it?
14:30What purify it from?
14:32It doesn't allow beef fat, it doesn't allow pig fat, it doesn't allow fish fat, fish oil.
14:39There are certain norms to it.
14:41So, when that norms are being violated, a lot of people who doesn't even eat garlic,
14:47who doesn't even eat onion, they are devotees of Lord Balaji.
14:52And imagine for them, even garlic is a desecration for them, eating garlic and eating onion.
15:00So, everyone believes, okay, they come to a common minimum understanding, okay,
15:04this is what it is, it gives a sanctity for them.
15:09The problem is, when it has not been practiced, when something has been violated,
15:15the ingredients which are not supposed to go into it, when they went inside,
15:20and it is a violation of trust.
15:24And that did hurt people, that enraged people.
15:29And imagine someone says it, who are the board members?
15:32I am not, the concept is I am not blaming any, whom I am blaming?
15:37I am blaming the regulatory body there, the authority which was sitting there.
15:42You are supposed to look into it.
15:45Instead of saying, okay, mistake happened, we are sorry, we will look into it,
15:50a simple apology, sorry, would have reduced it.
15:54I am not saying they won't be left, I mean, they won't be,
15:58we won't leave them, but it would have lessened the mitigation.
16:02But they didn't do it, they escalated it.
16:05And where they are drawing their strength from?
16:06They are drawing their strength from Hindus, society is divided,
16:13fellow Hindus can be abused, fellow Hindus can be done,
16:16they can, because you can't raise your voice, because we are also Hindus.
16:19This is the group.
16:21How much percentage, it depends.
16:24But for that group, I am also Hindu.
16:30I am also, respect other religions.
16:33But here I am questioning not Muslims or Christians.
16:37Fellow Hindus.
16:38I am questioning the Hindus who doesn't have respect for Sanatan Dharma.
16:42You are the prime culprits for this entire episode.
16:49For them to escape, to safeguard Hinduism, Hindu society,
16:56should be safeguarded from the people within Hinduism,
17:00who attack Sanatan Dharma.
17:04I think that's what the whole episode turned out to be, not just about Prasad.
17:08The executive officer of TTD coming out and saying that the ghee was never used,
17:12that the adulterated ghee was never used.
17:15Whereas, the chief minister's statements and all the other
17:19statements after that confirmed that the adulterated ghee was in fact used to make laddus.
17:24So, if you could just give us some clarity on whether the ghee was used or not in the first
17:29place, it can clear out the doubts of crores of devotees,
17:33who today are in a confused state because of that one news report.
17:40If ghee was not used, the issue would not have arisen to this point.
17:45It's as simple.
17:47And especially, we are very, very cautious and careful to say a statement before.
17:55When the EO says, now, he was not talking about then.
18:03He's talking about once they have taken charge.
18:11Because when Mr. New EO has taken charge, I was also asking why, if you noticed,
18:17I was raising this since many days.
18:20You'll have, if you want, my office can give you the visuals,
18:27where I have spoken consistently about the quality of Prasad.
18:30During the election campaign also, you spoke about it.
18:33So, it is not something new.
18:37Everyone said that something is not right.
18:40So, when the EO who has taken charge, and he means, maybe he's not a,
18:46because they say he's a bureaucrat, he doesn't exactly,
18:51and also sometimes English, if you said it in Telugu,
18:55when they say it, when he said it, what he meant was,
18:58I asked him, the other day he met me, I said, what he meant was,
19:01now, whatever, in fact, he gave me Prasad.
19:04I said, I asked him, he said, no sir, this is after we blocked the company,
19:10and this guy has been tested, and with this guy we made it.
19:14That's what he meant.
19:15But the way he put it, I hadn't seen the visual,
19:20but for me, there was no confusion, because he said it right.
19:23But people who don't understand the language,
19:26they don't understand the language,
19:28he said it right.
19:29But people who don't understand the language,
19:32people who want to twist, you know, have a different meaning to it,
19:37they can say it.
19:38But actually, we are on the same page.
19:39All of us are on the same page.
19:41Sir, yesterday you did an entire press conference,
19:43and you also responded to Mr. Prakash Raj,
19:46who came out and spoke something about this particular issue.
19:50Today, he has responded to your press conference,
19:52and he says you tried misquoting him or twisting what he has quoted.
19:57What would you like to say about that?
19:58No, no, there's no such way.
20:01I like Prakash Raj, he's a good friend of mine,
20:03and I always liked him.
20:06In fact, we share a great bonding.
20:09Though we differ on political aspects and his opinion,
20:12that's a different story,
20:13but as an actor, I truly respect him, and I like him, frankly.
20:18I love to perform with him,
20:20and I have a few more days' work also with him.
20:22See, first of all, there is no need for him to comment on this,
20:33on my tweet.
20:35It is something, some adulteration happened,
20:37some sanctity has been violated.
20:40I said that.
20:40There is no comment.
20:42My thought was people who are involved in it should be punished.
20:46There is nothing to do with religion, nothing.
20:49But he commented, and he dragged your friends in Delhi.
20:54He meant Sir BJP.
20:55BJP and Modi ji, or whoever the leadership.
21:02So, I know his comments.
21:04He feels he's a great secularist.
21:07So, where your thought comes from?
21:11Such idea, what you said, it comes from your definition of secularism.
21:18So, it is not just Mr. Prakash Raj alone,
21:20whoever were commenting on me on the social media,
21:23or on the political commentators,
21:25they think they are the saviors of democracy,
21:28and they are epitome of secularism.
21:31I want to tell them, guys,
21:33I know for secularism, I have a slight,
21:38it's not my own opinion,
21:39average Indian feels it.
21:44For them, secularism is something you can comment on,
21:48the moment I said I didn't misquote or something,
21:50I understood his intention.
21:52Where you are coming from.
21:54You read between the lines.
21:55That's read between the lines.
21:58I said, my question is, did you comment on Bangladesh?
22:03When Hindus are being killed, did you comment?
22:06You don't comment.
22:08If you had commented, I don't know, I'm not aware, I'm glad.
22:11See, this, not just Prakash Raj,
22:13any kind of secularist who claims to be his secularist,
22:17it's very easy to comment on
22:21what is happening in the Hindu society.
22:24They are scared to comment on any other religion,
22:28which I hate that.
22:31You say they are dual standards.
22:33I said, what is secularism?
22:35All are equal.
22:36Whether I'm a person of an X religion,
22:39a person of Y religion,
22:40or Z religion, that's not the issue.
22:43Whoever does the mistake,
22:44who wants to make a comment,
22:48please do it.
22:50That's what an average Indian wants.
22:52I grew up from a very simple middle class family
22:55who doesn't come from a great political background,
22:58but I wanted my leaders to be like this.
23:00Got it.
23:02Just because I'm a leftist doesn't mean
23:04I'm not going to comment on,
23:06imagine, the sacred thread was
23:10adorned by Brahmins,
23:12or certain classes of society.
23:15It was pulled and snapped by one guy.
23:20The one who snapped,
23:21it happened in the temple in Bhimavaram.
23:26It was done by another Hindu only.
23:33And no one comments about it.
23:35Of course, we raised my voice.
23:41Any kind of
23:42any kind of
23:45some wrongdoing happens,
23:47it's easy.
23:48Sanatana dharma or Hinduism is the easiest target
23:52punching back to be commented.
23:54Got it.
23:55For the so-called secularists.
23:57And Prakash Raj is one such secularist.
24:00That's the reason why he commented all along.
24:03Got it, sir.
24:04So my last question on Theopathy
24:06before we get into 100 days of governance
24:07and the Guinness World Record achieved by your department.
24:10There is an allegation coming in from the opposition
24:13in the state of Andhra Pradesh.
24:14They say recently,
24:15the IT minister and the son of the present chief minister
24:18went on to give a media statement
24:20saying TTD, when questioned about the delay in the timeline,
24:24he went on to give a statement saying
24:25TTD is an independent body
24:27and the chief minister can only appoint the executive officer
24:30but cannot exercise control over the board.
24:33So Mr. Nagalokesh had said that to the media.
24:36So their counter question right now
24:38to the ruling government is
24:40if today TTD is independent
24:42and that justifies the delay in making the report public
24:46despite receiving it on the 23rd of July,
24:48then how is it that the then chief minister,
24:51Vice Jagan Mohan Reddy can be attacked
24:53because TTD even back then was independent
24:55is what they say.
24:57When did we comment on Jagan?
24:59We're commenting on TTD board.
25:01I personally, I'm saying it on record right now.
25:05I didn't comment on Mr. Jagan.
25:08I'm commenting on the board
25:11which was constituted under his leadership.
25:15My question is simply, as you are not aware,
25:20I absolutely agree with this argument.
25:24It is constituted by you
25:26but you are not the reason for it.
25:28Okay, right.
25:31These are the findings.
25:33Let the investigation go on.
25:34Let them find out.
25:35Why do you get scared?
25:37Why do you defend those people?
25:38That's what my question is.
25:39Okay, him defending and the fear that you're citing is...
25:42Yeah, because you're defending,
25:43that means you're a part of it.
25:45If I'm in Jagan Reddy's position,
25:46what I'll say, okay, that's fine.
25:49I'm the chief minister.
25:51I was chief minister then.
25:53I don't know what exactly happened.
25:54I'm sorry.
25:55If such sanctity has been violated,
25:58I'm sorry.
25:59Please go through it.
26:00I'm open for that.
26:01It's as simple as this.
26:03But if I say,
26:05it's not a mistake of ours.
26:07I said, who's saying it?
26:08It's your mistake.
26:09We understand.
26:12Every Prasad, every producer,
26:15you won't sit and do it.
26:16You're a chief minister.
26:18Personally, I'm not blaming it.
26:20I'm very clear.
26:22But you're not letting anyone to be commented.
26:27You're not letting the issue to comment on this issue.
26:30You're not letting anything to go forward.
26:32You're saying it's politicking.
26:33Why would we do it?
26:35So the reason why I said,
26:37why would we would never do it is Ramathirtha.
26:43Imagine for any religion other than Hinduism,
26:47if it happens to their religion,
26:50if their idols,
26:51if the place of desecration,
26:52a place of worship has been desecrated.
26:57Can you imagine that entire world would explode?
26:59Exactly.
27:00Here in Ramathirtha,
27:03this land of Sanatana Dharma bows down to Lord Sri Rama.
27:11That Lord Sri Rama statue has been severed,
27:15has been cut off.
27:17And I'm a very serious devotee of Lord Sri Rama right from my childhood.
27:24And everyone knows that we worship Lord Hanuman,
27:28and entire Ramajyapam goes in our home.
27:31It hurts us but,
27:33and I'm in politics too,
27:36I could have taken it as a very political issue.
27:39But we know that would rake up raw emotions,
27:46especially a person like me when I speak.
27:50So I made it a point to what extent it has to be taken forward.
27:54I had done that much and I left it there.
27:57Requesting them, you take action,
27:59which they didn't take.
28:01But the repeated actions,
28:04the repeated occurrences,
28:06when it becomes a practice,
28:09and I had been seeing it for decades,
28:11after being in politics,
28:12after Rama had been severed.
28:16So when, if not now, when?
28:19That's what I know.
28:20Sir, 100 days of governance,
28:24it's 100 days since the Kutami has come to power in the state of Andhra Pradesh.
28:27How do you analyze 100 days in terms of performance?
28:31And the second part of that question would be,
28:33I mean, I couldn't avoid but notice the posters of an ex-minister
28:39joining your party on the way to this particular office.
28:43So now a lot of people are preferring to,
28:45you know, jump ship and come to the GSP.
28:48So how do you analyze the performance
28:50and what is the way forward for Janasena party as a political outfit?
28:55I'm telling you, I'm the most reluctant actor
28:59and a reluctant political leader.
29:01Destiny made me to be here.
29:04And my only quest is to speak from the bottom of your heart.
29:10That's what I trained myself all my, all these years.
29:14And I want to curtail criminalization of politics
29:19as much as I can within my limits.
29:23And to give a dignity to suppressed sections of society
29:33and to increase a lot of employability,
29:39employment capabilities in the people through skill development.
29:44And for me, this 100 days was purely focused on that.
29:48I'm a very great environmentalist, I mean, very committed environmentalist.
29:56And I love nature, I want to protect nature.
29:58So all these things made me to go.
29:59These were my ideals, my passion for it.
30:06But to let people look at, I was focused only in this 100 days,
30:08what best I can do.
30:09We did 13,326 panchayats, which were neglected by last government.
30:16And I started empowering them right from roads and connectivity,
30:22NREGA, I mean, National Rural Employment Scheme.
30:27And we are getting funds and we're doing it.
30:30And whatever they could not do in the last 34 years,
30:33we increased the funds for gram panchayats.
30:36And these, I was looking at this,
30:38but I didn't ask anyone to join my Janasena.
30:42Because for me, I'm a bit cautious.
30:46The reason is, I never expand party is,
30:51I don't like to join people.
30:53The reason is, I want very people of good commitment.
30:56People something you believe in it.
30:59You come into my party.
31:01People who just want to leave the party.
31:03I said, please go, that's fine, I'm fine.
31:06Here, I'm with a certain resolve, certain commitment.
31:09You believe in this, you come into it, otherwise I'm fine.
31:12So, when people, and these are the leaders who were reasonably,
31:19they're unlike the YCP leaders, though they were in YCP.
31:22And we have a common friends between us
31:25and they were quite dignified in those times.
31:28So when later they approached me, I opposed them.
31:30I mean, ever since they even,
31:32they wanted to come before the election also.
31:35And I said, we are an alliance and I don't like to,
31:40I cannot promise something which I cannot deliver.
31:43And they went ahead.
31:46And now, it is not because of failure,
31:49because they connect with me, they have.
31:51They feel, we need a little decency in politics.
31:55We cannot handle this kind of political party we are in
31:58and we want to come out.
32:00Could you give us space?
32:02I said, right now, I cannot.
32:05So I think the time has come.
32:07Right now, I cannot.
32:09So I think the time has come for them and they extended,
32:12they asked my, to my opinion,
32:16what they would like to come.
32:17Then I said, I will come.
32:19So last question, obviously,
32:21the next logical step for the party, right?
32:23Party workers, leaders,
32:25they would obviously want to see their leader take the next step.
32:29Is that even a thought right now?
32:31I mean, is being on the CM seat,
32:33one of the aspects that you're seeing in the foreseeable future?
32:38See, for me, okay, positions are,
32:42I never wanted to be deputy CM.
32:43I never wanted to be an actor.
32:45I never wanted to be a political leader.
32:46I never, all the things I wanted,
32:48good for my nation, good for my society.
32:50Maybe that all made me boil down,
32:53that made me, everything conspired to let me be here.
32:58Okay, I never asked for a position.
33:02Yes.
33:03If position, you imagine if today's, for example,
33:06yesterday what I had spoken,
33:08imagine that this position of deputy CM is not there,
33:12still I would have been the same.
33:16So for me, if I become something in the process,
33:19but I want it to happen in a very organically,
33:21it is not something,
33:24I want to be chief minister,
33:25because I know I need,
33:27we need experience and expertise of Sri Chitra Bawla,
33:31because his experience counts a lot.
33:33His administrative ability counts, needs.
33:37So here there is no confrontation,
33:39there is no backstabbing.
33:40No, no, I am very clear personally.
33:43I want the best things happen to my people,
33:46best things happen to our nation,
33:49and that's it.
33:51In course of time, we don't know.
33:52If it happens, well and good.
33:54If it doesn't happen, still I'm well and good.
33:55Thank you so much for speaking to us, sir.
33:57And we wish you all the luck
33:58with all your endeavors going forward.
34:00Thank you, sir.
34:01And we look forward to interviewing you in the future.
34:03Interviewing you once again sometime.