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00:00Nobody's perfect, certainly not me, certainly not you, and certainly not Donald Trump.
00:07But an imperfect Donald Trump still beats Kamala Harris at her best.
00:11And neither Trump or Harris were at their best last night.
00:14They were at their very realist.
00:17Kamala was well rehearsed, composed, aggressive, but voters still don't have a clue about what
00:22she wants to do.
00:24Trump was emotional, undisciplined, but his vision for America was clear, and he owned
00:30the big moments.
00:32I'm talking now, if you don't mind, please, does that sound familiar?
00:37She doesn't have a plan.
00:39She copied Biden's plan, and it's like four sentences, like run, spot, run.
00:45I don't say her because she has no policy.
00:48Everything that she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window.
00:53She's going to my philosophy now.
00:54In fact, I was going to send her a MAGA hat.
00:56Where is our president?
00:58We don't even know if he's a president.
00:59We have a president, Mr. President, that doesn't know he's alive.
01:03This is the one that weaponized, not me.
01:05She weaponized.
01:06I probably took a bullet to the head because of the things that they say about me.
01:12They talk about democracy.
01:14I'm a threat to democracy.
01:15They're the threat to democracy.
01:18Kamala was steady, but didn't have a moment.
01:22She triggered Trump for 90 minutes, then cocked her head and smirked.
01:26The Times says immediate reaction from political analysts favored Ms. Harris, whose attacks
01:32appeared to rattle Mr. Trump.
01:34But not all voters, especially those undecided few who could sway the election, were effusive
01:40about the vice president's performance.
01:42Kamala's strategy was to provoke Trump and distract you from a record, a cowardly strategy
01:48for someone who wants to lead the country.
01:50We expect solutions.
01:52And she came up empty.
01:54Democrats are the anti-Trump party.
01:56We get it.
01:57You hate him.
01:58You wasted 90 minutes in front of 70 million people making fun of him.
02:02But what about the American people?
02:05Undecided voters say, I still don't know what she's for.
02:09There was no real meat and bones for her plans.
02:12Another one says, nothing is clear to me.
02:14I want to know how all of this impacts my family financially.
02:19Another said, I felt like the whole debate was Kamala Harris telling me why not to vote
02:24for Donald Trump instead of why she's the right candidate.
02:29High interest rates can't get my family into a home.
02:32My credit card's maxed out.
02:34There's migrants crowding up my kids school.
02:37Kamala ignored you.
02:39The most fundamental question of the election, the first question of the night, went right
02:44to her and she dodged.
02:47When it comes to the economy, do you believe Americans are better off than they were four
02:50years ago?
02:52So I was raised as a middle class kid.
02:56And I am actually the only person on this stage who has a plan that is about lifting
03:00up the middle class and working people of America.
03:03I believe in the ambition, the aspirations, the dreams of the American people.
03:08Mm hmm.
03:09Blah, blah, blah.
03:10Vague nonsense.
03:11And for the rest of the night, she was evasive on the core issues.
03:15We all know Trump's plan, tax cuts, tariffs, border security, peace deals.
03:20Nobody knows Kamala's policies because she can't say what they are.
03:24She'll lose the election.
03:25They're progressive, unpopular, and they don't work.
03:28CNN polled people before and then after the debate.
03:31And Trump won the economic argument because his ideas are common sense.
03:36And he executed them four years ago.
03:39Undecided voters felt like they were watching Biden.
03:43He spoke facts.
03:45She just basically repeated everything that Biden has said in the past.
03:53What were your thoughts?
03:54Biden did this entire moderate stance back in 2020.
03:58And she's trying to do it again in 2024.
04:01But she didn't talk about her policy changes between 2020 and 2024.
04:07Her whole centrist moderate stance is just a facade.
04:11Kamala didn't tell you how she's going to make the next four years better.
04:14She spent the night trying to erase the last four.
04:17Her big goal was to distance herself from Biden.
04:21Well, first of all, it's important to remind the former president you're not running against
04:25Joe Biden.
04:26You're running against me.
04:27No one bought that.
04:29But was Trump able to define Kamala's dangerously liberal record?
04:34She did things that nobody would ever think of.
04:37Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison.
04:42This is a radical left liberal that would do this.
04:46She wants to confiscate your guns and she will never allow fracking in Pennsylvania.
04:51If she won the election, fracking in Pennsylvania will end on day one.
04:56That was very effective, but Trump didn't do it enough.
05:00So people still don't know exactly what Kamala Harris represents.
05:04This helps Harris in a way, but it also hurts her because at this point, after a convention,
05:09a big interview and a debate, people are getting suspicious.
05:13Why isn't she telling us who she is?
05:15Why isn't she telling us what she stands for?
05:18Why isn't she giving us the details?
05:20One of Trump's strongest moments was when he reminded the nation that Kamala has no
05:25excuses.
05:26She's in power now.
05:28I would say we would both leave this debate right now.
05:31I'd like to see her go down to Washington, D.C. during this debate because we're wasting
05:36a lot of time.
05:38Go down to, because she's been so bad, it's so ridiculous.
05:41Go down to Washington, D.C. and let her sign a bill to close up the border because they
05:46have the right to do it.
05:47They don't need bills.
05:48They have the right to do it.
05:49The president of the United States, you'll get them out of bed.
05:52You'll wake them up at four o'clock in the afternoon.
05:54You'll say, come on, come on down to the office.
05:56Let's sign a bill.
05:58Kamala's running on fixing the problems she created, but won't fix them right now.
06:03You'll have to wait till later.
06:05That's not an honest pitch.
06:07That's a pitch from someone who's screwed up but wants to stay in charge anyway.
06:12Trump saved his best point for the very end.
06:15Watch.
06:16So she just started by saying she's going to do this.
06:18She's going to do that.
06:19She's going to do all these wonderful things.
06:21Why hasn't she done it?
06:23She's been there for three and a half years.
06:26They've had three and a half years to fix the border.
06:29They've had three and a half years to create jobs and all the things we talked about.
06:34Why hasn't she done it?
06:36She should leave right now, go down to that beautiful White House, go to the Capitol,
06:41get everyone together and do the things you want to do.
06:44But you haven't done it and you won't do it because you believe in things that the American
06:48people don't believe in.
06:50My restaurant guy, Luigi, tells me every customer remembers the dessert.
06:55It's the last thing we serve.
06:58And voters are going to remember that last line.
07:01Reuters pulled undecided voters after the debate, and 60 percent of them say they are
07:06now voting Trump, just 30 percent for Harris.
07:11She performed, but wasn't persuasive.
07:15Debates don't usually decide elections.
07:17We're just fresh off a debate that did or should have.
07:20But it was so decisive, the Democrats pulled a switcheroo.
07:23So we expected a decisive night.
07:26And last night's debate wasn't.
07:29Elections are usually decided by the strength of the economy and which man or woman can
07:34lead us forward.
07:36We are voting for the leader of our country and not who we like the most or who we want
07:41in our wedding party, but who is actually going to make our country better.
07:46And we're in an incredibly unique situation where we've had both of the candidates in
07:50office before and we've gotten to see what they do.
07:53And when facts come to facts, my life was better when Trump was in office.
07:57The economy was higher, inflation was lower, things were better overall.
08:01And now with Kamala's administration, things haven't been so fantastic.
08:07And she's saying she can fix the problems that her administration has caused, but I
08:11just don't know if I can afford to take that risk.
08:14So how did Harris win the debate and lose voters?
08:18Well, it's easy to win when it's three against one, and we'll get to that in a second.
08:22But the left continues to be fooled into thinking attacking Trump means they're winning.
08:28He's been impeached, raided, arrested, shot, insulted for 90 minutes.
08:32So why isn't Kamala Harris winning?
08:35Politico, after watching the debate and sleeping on it, just out with this.
08:40The danger of underestimating Trump.
08:43When all the corners of elite thinking are in agreement, whether it's on social media,
08:48Wall Street, the Beltway, print newsrooms, or in cable TV green rooms, it's best to be
08:53very skeptical.
08:57Former RFK junior running mate Nicole Shanahan is here.
09:00Nicole, what happened last night?
09:04I think what happened was, is we saw two candidates speaking to their bases very effectively and
09:11tens of millions of Americans watching and walking away wondering to themselves, oh gosh,
09:17what do I do now?
09:18I was really hoping for something more.
09:20And people were disappointed in Kamala for not expressing more details in her plan, which
09:26she said the word plan many times, but none of us really walked away with an understanding
09:30of what any of these plans were.
09:33And then people looking to Trump and hoping that we would see Trump talking about things
09:39in new and innovative ways.
09:42But it was very much the Trump that we're used to.
09:46And that leaves all of us independents in the middle really looking and grasping for
09:54some clarity.
09:56And I think what we want to see is teammates.
09:58I think we really want to see a debate team.
10:00We want to see people around these individuals that are speaking on their behalf or with
10:06them and talking about how they're going to make and execute their White House in the
10:11direction that Americans are hungry for.
10:14And I have to say, the one thing Trump did was he talked about the topics Americans care
10:18about the most right now, which are inflation at the border and war.
10:24And he really, really did hone in on showing his passion and his commitment to solving
10:29those three very large issues.
10:32Kamala kind of evaded them in ways that I think left many Americans frustrated.
10:36Was Kamala evasive because she decided to be evasive?
10:41Or were the people running Kamala, the machine, were they telling her not to say anything
10:49that she believes in?
10:51And who are those people?
10:55I think the vehicle behind Kamala, and I said this yesterday in my post-debate commentary,
11:03we've got BlackRock in Kiev running a war in Ukraine, enriching themselves in very significant ways.
11:11We have big pharma behind Kamala that is really relying on the Affordable Care Act to directionally
11:18continue in the direction it's been going, which is very, very expensive prices and kind
11:25of under-delivery of services and really an accounting of an ongoing swath of very
11:33sick people in this country.
11:35And so, you know, I think what she did was she was very polished, she was very prepared.
11:40But Americans are feeling these issues in a very visceral way that her talking points
11:46and her sophistication weren't really able to somehow manipulate around.
11:54And even if that was their goal, you know, Americans walked away just kind of feeling
11:59let down by last night's performance.
12:01Does Kamala connect with people?
12:04I don't see it.
12:05Do you?
12:06You know, I come from the liberal progressive world and the community I come from, they
12:17thought she did great.
12:18She looked polished.
12:19She sounded polished.
12:22Thanks to Trump, she looked very strong to the intellectual liberal community.
12:28But when you kind of dig deeper, and this is why I encourage the intellectual liberal
12:32community to go out there and connect with Americans, every Americans, because when you
12:37do that, you realize that that how out of touch many of these elite Democrats actually
12:44are with the realities in this country.
12:45Working class Americans.
12:47Did working class Americans hear Kamala last night and say, yes, I feel her, I feel something
12:54there that she cares and has a solution?
12:58Did they feel that?
13:00Yeah, it's it's missing, but again, like I can't say Trump left, you know, many undecided
13:11voters feeling great either.
13:13Maybe feeling more secure, feeling like there is a strong man in the room who is going to
13:19take care of business.
13:21But you know, I think that people wanted to see something from Trump that maybe looked
13:27a little bit like a combination of Trump and Bobby Kennedy together.
13:32And we have 54 days until the election, Jesse.
13:35And I think we still have a chance to show undecided voters what this partnership really
13:39is all about.
13:40We've seen flashes of that, Trump, and everybody aspires to see that again, but it doesn't
13:45always come through.
13:47Maybe it will later, but we can only hope.
13:50Thank you so much.
13:51Nicole Shanahan.
13:52Have a great night.
13:54Former White House press secretary and co-host of Outnumbered Kayleigh McEnany is here, Kayleigh.
14:00Let me show you another great moment from last night that really sunk in.
14:04Listen.
14:05They never fired one person.
14:07They didn't fire anybody having to do with Afghanistan and the Taliban and the 13 people
14:12who's who's were just killed viciously and violently killed.
14:16And I got to know the parents and the family.
14:19They didn't fire.
14:20They should have fired all those generals, all those top people, because that was one
14:24of the most incompetently handled situations anybody has ever seen.
14:29Accountability that resonates with people.
14:32Did that resonate?
14:35Absolutely.
14:37That is the moment.
14:38What Donald Trump just said, the moment where the bottom fell off of the Biden-Harris administration.
14:43As you well know, she was the last person in the room for the Afghanistan decision.
14:48And that was a huge moment.
14:50But it's emblematic of her presidency, of her vice presidency.
14:54It's emblematic of the tenure of this administration.
14:56Look, when he said that, I think a lot of Americans at home thought back to the last
15:02four years.
15:03And Americans don't have amnesia.
15:04And this is what the punditry is missing.
15:06They looked at Donald Trump last night, and they remembered four years where groceries
15:10weren't expensive.
15:12And they remembered four years where the millennials who are dreaming of getting homes and Gen
15:16Zers could afford them.
15:18They don't have amnesia.
15:19There is a gaping chasm, and this is what I know, between the pundits, the Jake Tappers,
15:24the Anderson Coopers, the New York Times writers, and the average American.
15:29There's a gaping chasm.
15:30And I think middle America saw this entirely differently, evidenced by that Reuters statistic
15:35you put up.
15:36Sixty percent now lean Trump, likely Trump, or choosing him.
15:40Nicole just mentioned that second gear that we've seen Trump hit.
15:45We saw it at the debate with Biden.
15:47We've seen it at the RNC convention.
15:49We've seen it before.
15:50He didn't hit it last night.
15:54Where is that?
15:55Because I thought at the end he was going to finish with something about the American
16:00dream and restoring the American dream.
16:04Where was that?
16:05Yeah.
16:06Yeah.
16:07I think it was a impossible task last night.
16:11You know, it was the ABC news debate, but that was inappropriately named.
16:15It was not the ABC news debate.
16:16It was a DNC debate.
16:17It was the Planned Parenthood debate.
16:19It was the ACLU debate.
16:20There were radical activists asking questions last night.
16:23David Muir, not a journalist.
16:24Rachel Lindsay, not a journalist.
16:26You are left wing activists.
16:28Trump was fighting three against one.
16:30Did he make every pivot perfectly?
16:32No.
16:33There are things he can learn.
16:34There are things he can do better next time.
16:36Like Kamala, when she was talking about migrant crime, she went to the Trump trials.
16:39What I would have said back to that is, you were just asked about migrant crime.
16:43You talked about me.
16:44I want to talk about Lakeland Riley, Jocelyn Nungaree.
16:47You didn't bring up their names.
16:48You're obsessed with lawfare, not the American people.
16:50He can work on those pivots, but I believe the American people saw a man that was successful
16:55for four years and they crave that success.
16:57They didn't see what MSNBC, Lawrence O'Donnell, Rachel Maddow saw in their wildest dreams.
17:04My friends talk about Trump all the time.
17:05They say, Jesse, I wish he had said this.
17:07I wish he had done that.
17:10At a certain point, he is what he is.
17:12It's not going to change.
17:14And his emotional volatility or whatever you want to call it, that characteristic may not
17:20always be the best for these debate moments, but it's what makes him who he is when they're
17:26arresting him, shooting him in the head, raiding his house, calling him a racist for all this
17:32time.
17:34That survival instinct.
17:36No one else has that.
17:37And that's what makes him special.
17:39So you've got to take the good with the bad.
17:43Well said.
17:44He is someone who, when people look at, they remember better times and they need to remember
17:49Kamala Harris as someone who locked herself up for five days, rehearsed, probably stared
17:54in the mirror, tried to become a mannequin politician.
17:57Zero plans.
17:58You want lower grocery bills?
17:59Choose the guy who's the fighter.
18:01She wasted her time.
18:02She had 90 minutes to say who she was.
18:04She didn't do it.
18:05And that's suspicious.
18:06And that'll sink in to voters.
18:08Kayleigh, thank you as always.
18:11Breaking news on Melania and the Trump assassination.
18:17Republicans should stop whining about media bias and do something about it.
18:20ABC rigged last night's debate, but we knew they would.
18:24We were just lulled into a false sense of security because CNN played it so straight
18:28in June.
18:29But Republicans and Trump especially always get shafted by moderators.
18:35So this should be the last presidential debate ABC ever hosts.
18:39And Republicans in future debates should negotiate better terms.
18:43ABC's David Muir and Lindsay Davis fact check Trump five times, zero times for Harris and
18:50let her get away with hoaxes that their own networks debunked.
18:55Under Donald Trump's abortion bans, couples who pray and dream of having a family are
19:03being denied IVF.
19:04What you're going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan called Project 2025 that
19:11the former president intends on implementing.
19:13It is well known that he admires dictators, wants to be a dictator on day one, according
19:19to himself.
19:21Let's remember Charlottesville.
19:22And what did the president then at the time say?
19:26There were fine people on each side.
19:32ABC let Kamala get away with lying and then argued with Trump over things that he said
19:38that were true.
19:40Despite their fraudulent statements that they made, crime in this country is through the
19:45roof and we have a new form of crime.
19:47It's called migrant crime and it's happening at levels that nobody thought possible.
19:51President Trump, as you know, the FBI says overall violent crime is actually coming
19:54down in this country.
19:55Her vice presidential pick says abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine.
20:01He also says execution after birth is execution, no longer abortion because the baby is born.
20:07There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born.
20:12ABC knows the FBI crime numbers are a sham.
20:16The most violent cities like New York, Chicago, L.A., they don't share it with the feds.
20:21And partial birth abortion?
20:23ABC News itself reports that nine states have no restrictions on abortion.
20:29Under Tim Walz, eight babies were born alive and terminated in Minnesota over the last
20:34few years.
20:37ABC's entire line of questioning was designed to suppress the Trump vote.
20:42President Trump, this is now your third time running for president.
20:45You have long vowed to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare.
20:50You have failed to accomplish that.
20:51Are you now acknowledging that you lost in 2020?
20:54No, I don't acknowledge that at all.
20:55I said that sarcastically, you know that.
20:57We said, oh, we lost by a whisker.
20:59That was said sarcastically.
21:00I did watch all of these pieces of video.
21:03I didn't detect the sarcasm.
21:05Lost by a whisker, we didn't quite make it.
21:06Mr. President, on January 6th, you told your supporters to march to the Capitol.
21:10You said you would be right there with them.
21:12The country and the world saw what played out of the Capitol that day.
21:15You were the president.
21:16You were watching it unfold on television.
21:17It's a very simple question as we move forward toward another election.
21:21Is there anything you regret about what you did on that day?
21:24This summer, an assassin almost blew Trump's head off.
21:28No question about that.
21:30They want to talk about political violence instead on January 6th, years ago.
21:35ABC is owned by Disney.
21:37Its CEO, Bob Iger, he's a Democrat donor, hangs out with the Obamas.
21:43And Disney's chair is a Democrat megadonor and has been a close friend of Kamala's for
21:49decades.
21:51Republicans are giving biased networks the ability to interfere in the election when
21:55they agree to debates like last night.
21:59Outkick.com founder Clay Travis joins us.
22:01Now, I hate when Republicans complain about the debate moderators.
22:05It happens every debate.
22:06It happens every time.
22:07They always rig the debate against the Republicans, and they always complain.
22:12Why do they agree to do debates with these biased moderators?
22:17I've got a solution here, Jesse.
22:19And I bet you're going to think that this is genius, and if you don't, eventually you're
22:23going to come around.
22:24I trust you.
22:25Here is my solution.
22:27Trump gets to pick one person on television daily to ask questions of Kamala.
22:34Kamala gets to pick one person on television daily to ask questions of Trump.
22:40You have two moderators, probably from two different political organizations, two different
22:45media organizations, both picked by each candidate.
22:49They cross the questions.
22:51Boom.
22:52We try to do away with this.
22:53I'm going to say something that's probably going to blow your mind.
22:55OK, I'm ready.
22:56Jake Tapper and Dana Bash on CNN did a pretty good job on June 27th because they moderated
23:03the debate and nobody talked about them afterwards.
23:07I got, you know this, Jesse.
23:08I love sports.
23:10I love football.
23:11A lot of conference commissioners, you have conversations with them.
23:14They get accused of being fans of particular teams.
23:18One of them, Mike Slive, God rest his soul, amazing guy, died a few years ago.
23:23He said, Clay, SEC commissioner, Southeastern Conference, he said, you know who I root for
23:27every Saturday, Clay?
23:29The officials.
23:30I root for them not to be a story because if they're not a story, it means the players
23:36on the field got to decide the outcome and we didn't have anything to do.
23:41We didn't get anything wrong.
23:43When you look at it, David Muir and Lindsey Davis being a story here is a sign that they
23:49got it all wrong.
23:50A great moderator isn't mentioned after the debate because it's not about them.
23:55You know that abortion question when Lindsey Davis jumped in, Kamala immediately said,
24:00thank you.
24:01I told you he was going to lie all night.
24:04He was basically acknowledging that it was three on one.
24:07I thought it was pathetic.
24:08I like my idea of one.
24:10Each person gets to pick their own questioner of the opposing party.
24:14I like your idea, too.
24:15So Donald Trump's going to pick Hannity and Kamala is going to pick Matt out.
24:19And you're saying Matt gets to ask questions of Trump and Hannity gets to question Kamala.
24:25Tell me that wouldn't be actually great television because Hannity actually gets to ask Kamala
24:30questions that she doesn't want to answer.
24:33Trump will answer any question from Matt Al and it eliminates the bias.
24:38And boom, you got a real debate.
24:40And guess what?
24:41When it's on the economy, when it's on border, when it's all on crime, Kamala fails the test
24:47on all three.
24:48That's why the first question, nothing is better.
24:51White, black, Asian, Hispanic, gay, straight, male, female.
24:54Every single person has in a worse financial shape and worse life shape with Kamala and
25:00Biden in the office than they were when Trump was there beyond a shadow of a doubt.
25:05Last question real quick.
25:07Will there be another debate?
25:08And who's going to host it seriously?
25:12In all seriousness, it should be Fox.
25:14And you know what's in Fox News.
25:15And what's interesting about this is, you know what Fox News would do?
25:19Play it straight down the middle, which is all people want to see.
25:22But I think Kamala is going to be afraid to do it, which is why if I were Trump, I would
25:27not walk into these rig jobs.
25:30I would not walk into these ambushes.
25:32I would make sure, you know, who's going to be asking questions if you do another one.
25:35All right.
25:36The debate commissioner.
25:37There he is in the jacket of a debate commissioner.
25:43Major update in the P.D. invest.
25:47Fox News alert.
25:48The top Secret Service official in charge of presidential protective units announced
25:52he's retiring this week.
25:54Michael Plotty, who's been with the Secret Service for 26 years, will step aside and
25:59sail off into the sunset on Friday with full benefits and honors.
26:04Despite the fact that Trump was nearly killed on his watch, sources inside the agency tell
26:09Fox that Secret Service officials encouraged Plotty to step aside following the Butler
26:14assassination attempt.
26:16But publicly, they're saying the retirement's been in the works for a while.
26:20The Secret Service should have frog march this guy out of the office a month ago.
26:25Instead, they're burying his retirement announcement on the day of a presidential debate.
26:29Reminder, no one's been fired since Butler.
26:33Former director Kim Cheadle resigned under duress.
26:37And field agents, instead of getting in trouble, they're allowed to work from home.
26:42Melania Trump just said things don't add up.
26:47The attempt to end my husband's life was a horrible, distressing experience.
26:54Now the silence around it feels heavy.
26:58I can't help but wonder, why didn't law enforcement officials arrest the shooter before the speech?
27:07There is definitely more to this story, and we need to uncover the truth.
27:13Congressman Mike Walls is a member of the assassination task force, and he joins me
27:17now.
27:18Congressman, it's pretty significant that the former first lady is saying things don't
27:22add up, and she needs answers.
27:24What does that mean to you?
27:27Well, she's right.
27:29Things don't add up, and it's why the speaker established this task force.
27:34And I got to tell you, Jesse, it's really mixed so far.
27:38I think the task force is really taking a bottoms-up approach.
27:43They're conducting dozens of interviews with local law enforcement.
27:47First, five different agencies, multiple site visits.
27:50Again, dozens of transcribed interviews.
27:54The Secret Service, on the one hand, has given us about 2,400 documents, but that takes time
28:00to sift through all of that.
28:02But on the other hand, here's the disturbing part.
28:04They have apparently a standard protocol to do an internal review of 45 days and then
28:1060 days.
28:11They're not really talking to local law enforcement or any of these agencies or the other federal
28:16agencies or even the state police.
28:18Why?
28:20Because they're waiting and deferring to the FBI to finish their investigation, and the
28:25FBI has given us the good old, you know, hey, don't ask us too many questions, we'll give
28:31you a few updates, but it's under investigation.
28:36And the thing that is so frustrating, this isn't an isolated incident just to look into
28:40once and take a while.
28:42There's ongoing threats.
28:43There's Iranian assassination attempts.
28:45We just had the incident out in Arizona, an ongoing campaign with the president very
28:52much out there in the public.
28:55We need lessons learned now.
28:56We need those reviews done now.
28:58And what's going to change besides a couple of glass wall, you know, or fiberglass walls
29:03in front of him when he's outdoors?
29:04What have you learned about the shooter's behavior leading up to Butler that day?
29:11Well, clearly he was training.
29:15He was preparing.
29:17What we can't get a straight answer from the FBI on is, you know, he built three IEDs with
29:23remote detonators.
29:25But what we can't get a straight answer is what really radicalized him?
29:29What drove the motives?
29:31They keep telling us, well, we're making progress and getting into these multiple encrypted
29:36overseas accounts, but we're not getting any documents or what they're finding.
29:41Let me ask you this, Jesse.
29:42If this were like a tatted up white guy wearing a MAGA hat that took a shot at Kamala, you
29:48think the FBI would be taking months and months to get the behavioral analysis out there and
29:53paint a picture of them?
29:54Heck no.
29:55So I think that the first lady is absolutely right to say what the heck is, is going on
30:00here.
30:01I mean, she's not some, she's not some conspiracy theorist.
30:04This is a former first lady of the United States.
30:07She smells something that's fishy and she wants answers.
30:13This guy's suspiciously retiring all of a sudden.
30:17He's out.
30:18He was in charge of everything.
30:19Now he's gone, just disappears into the background.
30:24What does that tell you?
30:27He should have been suspended pending the results of this investigation because his
30:33job was the, the senior assistant director that approved all of the plans and the manpower
30:40allocation.
30:41Like one of the outstanding questions I have, why were 12 agents sent to Dr. Jill's event
30:46indoors with no foreign assassination threats, uh, about the same time that only three agents
30:54were sent to president Trump's outdoor with active and ongoing assassination.
31:00This guy, this guy's name is what, what is this guy's name?
31:03What is this?
31:04Plotty.
31:05Okay.
31:06This guy's key.
31:07Michael Plotty is key.
31:08He has answers.
31:09He needs to be questioned.
31:11He needs to be interviewed.
31:12I want to see the transcripts.
31:14We need to get.
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