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00:00:00Kamala Harris, let's have a good debate.

00:00:06Have fun.

00:00:09Welcome to you both.

00:00:10It's wonderful to have you.

00:00:11It's an honor to have you both here tonight.

00:00:12Good evening.

00:00:13We are looking forward to a spirited and thoughtful debate.

00:00:16So let's get started.

00:00:17I want to begin tonight with the issue that voters repeatedly say is their number one

00:00:21issue, and that is the economy and the cost of living in this country.

00:00:24Vice President Harris, you and President Trump were elected four years ago, and your opponent

00:00:28on the stage here tonight often asks his supporters, are you better off than you were

00:00:33four years ago?

00:00:34When it comes to the economy, do you believe Americans are better off than they were four

00:00:38years ago?

00:00:39So I was raised as a middle class kid, and I am actually the only person on this stage

00:00:46who has a plan that is about lifting up the middle class and working people of America.

00:00:51I believe in the ambition, the aspirations, the dreams of the American people, and that

00:00:56is why I imagine and have actually a plan to build what I call an opportunity economy.

00:01:02Because here's the thing.

00:01:03We know that we have a shortage of homes and housing, and the cost of housing is too expensive

00:01:09for far too many people.

00:01:11We know that young families need support to raise their children, and I intend on extending

00:01:17a tax cut for those families of $6,000, which is the largest child tax credit that we have

00:01:23given in a long time, so that those young families can afford to buy a crib, buy a car

00:01:29seat, buy clothes for their children.

00:01:31My passion, one of them, is small businesses.

00:01:35I was actually, my mother raised my sister and me, but there was a woman who helped raise

00:01:40us.

00:01:41We call her our second mother.

00:01:42She was a small business owner.

00:01:43I love our small businesses.

00:01:45My plan is to give a $50,000 tax deduction to startup small businesses, knowing they

00:01:51are part of the backbone of America's economy.

00:01:55My opponent, on the other hand, his plan is to do what he has done before, which is to

00:01:59provide a tax cut for billionaires and big corporations, which will result in $5 trillion

00:02:06to America's deficit.

00:02:08My opponent has a plan that I call the Trump sales tax, which would be a 20% tax on everyday

00:02:14goods that you rely on to get through the month.

00:02:19Opponents have said that that Trump sales tax would actually result for middle-class

00:02:23families in about $4,000 more a year because of his policies and his ideas about what should

00:02:32be the backs of middle-class people paying for tax cuts for billionaires.

00:02:38President Trump, I'll give you two minutes.

00:02:40First of all, I have no sales tax.

00:02:42That's an incorrect statement.

00:02:43She knows that.

00:02:44We're doing tariffs on other countries.

00:02:46Other countries are going to finally, after 75 years, pay us back for all that we've done

00:02:51for the world.

00:02:53And the tariff will be substantial in some cases.

00:02:56I took in billions and billions of dollars, as you know, from China.

00:02:59In fact, they never took the tariff off because it was so much money they can't.

00:03:03It would totally destroy everything that they've set out to do.

00:03:06They're taking in billions of dollars from China and other places.

00:03:09They've left the tariffs on.

00:03:11When I had it, I had tariffs, and yet I had no inflation.

00:03:14Look, we've had a terrible economy because inflation has, which is really known as a

00:03:19country buster.

00:03:20It breaks up countries.

00:03:22We have inflation like very few people have ever seen before, probably the worst in our

00:03:26nation's history.

00:03:28We were at 21 percent, but that's being generous because many things are 50, 60, 70 and 80

00:03:33percent higher than they were just a few years ago.

00:03:36This has been a disaster for people, for the middle class, but for every class.

00:03:40On top of that, we have millions of people pouring into our country from prisons and

00:03:45jails from mental institutions and insane asylums.

00:03:49And they're coming in and they're taking jobs that are occupied right now by African Americans

00:03:55and Hispanics and also unions.

00:03:58Unions are going to be affected very soon.

00:04:00And you see what's happening.

00:04:01You see what's happening with towns throughout the United States.

00:04:03You look at Springfield, Ohio.

00:04:06You look at Aurora in Colorado.

00:04:08They are taking over the towns.

00:04:11They're taking over buildings.

00:04:12They're going in violently.

00:04:13These are the people that she and Biden led into our country and they're destroying our

00:04:19country.

00:04:20They're dangerous.

00:04:21They're at the highest level of criminality.

00:04:24And we have to get them out.

00:04:25We have to get them out fast.

00:04:26I created one of the greatest economies in the history of our country.

00:04:31I'll do it again and even better.

00:04:33We are going to get to immigration and border security during this debate, but I would like

00:04:37to let Vice President Harris respond on the economy here.

00:04:40Well, I would love to.

00:04:41Let's talk about what Donald Trump left us.

00:04:45Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression.

00:04:50Donald Trump left us the worst public health epidemic in a century.

00:04:56Donald Trump left us the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War.

00:05:04And what we have done is clean up Donald Trump's mess.

00:05:08What we have done and what I intend to do is build on what we know are the aspirations

00:05:13and the hopes of the American people.

00:05:15But I'm going to tell you on this debate tonight, you're going to hear from the same old tired

00:05:19playbook, a bunch of lies, grievances and name calling.

00:05:24What you're going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan called Project 2025 that

00:05:31the former president intends on implementing if he were elected again.

00:05:35I believe very strongly that the American people want a president who understands the

00:05:41importance of bringing us together.

00:05:43No, we have so much more in common than what separates us.

00:05:47And I pledge to you to be a president for all Americans.

00:05:50President Trump will give you a minute here to respond.

00:05:52Number one, I have nothing to do, as you know, and as she knows better than anyone.

00:05:55I have nothing to do with Project 2025.

00:05:58That's out there.

00:05:59I haven't read it.

00:06:00I don't want to read it purposely.

00:06:01I'm not going to read it.

00:06:03This was a group of people that got together.

00:06:04They came up with some ideas, I guess some good, some bad, but it makes no difference.

00:06:09I have nothing to do.

00:06:10Everybody knows I'm an open book.

00:06:12Everybody knows what I'm going to do.

00:06:13Cut taxes very substantially and create a great economy like I did before.

00:06:18We had the greatest economy.

00:06:19We got hit with a pandemic and the pandemic was not since 1917, where 100 million people

00:06:25died.

00:06:26Has there been anything like it?

00:06:27We did a phenomenal job with the pandemic.

00:06:30We handed them over a country where the economy and where the stock market was higher than

00:06:35it was before the pandemic came in.

00:06:38Nobody's ever seen anything like it.

00:06:40We made ventilators for the entire world.

00:06:42We got gowns.

00:06:43We got masks.

00:06:44We did things that nobody thought possible.

00:06:46And people give me credit for rebuilding the military.

00:06:49They give me credit for a lot of things, but not enough credit for the great job we did

00:06:53with the pandemic.

00:06:54But the only jobs they got were bounce back jobs.

00:06:56Things with jobs bounce back and it bounced back and it went to their benefit.

00:07:01But I was the one that created them.

00:07:02They know it and so does everybody else.

00:07:04Vice President Harris, I'll let you respond.

00:07:07So Donald Trump has no plan for you.

00:07:11And when you look at his economic plan, it's all about tax breaks for the richest people.

00:07:16I am offering what I describe as an opportunity economy.

00:07:20And the best economists in our country, if not the world, have reviewed our relative

00:07:26plans for the future of America.

00:07:28What Goldman Sachs has said is that Donald Trump's plan would make the economy worse.

00:07:34Mine would strengthen the economy.

00:07:36What the Wharton School has said is Donald Trump's plan would actually explode the deficit.

00:07:4316 Nobel laureates have described his economic plan as something that would increase inflation.

00:07:50And by the middle of next year would invite a recession.

00:07:54You just have to look at where we are and where we stand on the issues.

00:07:58And I'd invite you to know that Donald Trump actually has no plan for you because he is

00:08:03more interested in defending himself than he is in looking out for you.

00:08:07It's just a sound bite.

00:08:09They gave her that to say, look, I went to the Wharton School of Finance and many of

00:08:13those professors, the top professors, think my plan is a brilliant plan.

00:08:17It's a great plan.

00:08:18It's a plan that's going to bring up our worth, our value as a country.

00:08:22It's going to make people want to be able to go and work and create jobs and create

00:08:27a lot of good, solid money for our company, for our country.

00:08:31Just to finish off, she doesn't have a plan.

00:08:35She copied Biden's plan.

00:08:37And it's like four sentences, like run, spot, run for sentences that are just, oh, we'll

00:08:44try and lower taxes.

00:08:45She doesn't have a plan.

00:08:46Take a look at her plan.

00:08:47She doesn't have a plan.

00:08:48Mr. President, I do want to drill down on something you both brought up.

00:08:52The vice president brought up your tariffs.

00:08:54You responded.

00:08:55And let's drill down on this, because your plan is what she calls is essentially a national

00:09:00sales tax.

00:09:01Your proposal calls for tariffs, as you pointed out here, on foreign imports across the board.

00:09:04You recently said that you might double your plan, imposing tariffs up to 20 percent on

00:09:09goods coming into this country.

00:09:11As you know, many economists say that with tariffs at that level, costs are then passed

00:09:14on to the consumer.

00:09:16Vice President Harris has argued it'll mean higher prices on gas, food, clothing, medication,

00:09:21arguing it costs the typical family nearly $4,000 a year.

00:09:25Do you believe Americans can afford higher prices because of tariffs?

00:09:28They're not going to have higher prices.

00:09:30What's going to have and who's going to have higher prices is China and all of the countries

00:09:34that have been ripping us off for years.

00:09:36I charge, I was the only president ever, China was paying us hundreds of billions of dollars,

00:09:42and so were other countries.

00:09:44And you know, if she doesn't like them, they should have gone out and they should have

00:09:47immediately cut the tariffs.

00:09:48But those tariffs are there three and a half years now under their administration.

00:09:53We are going to take in billions of dollars, hundreds of billions of dollars.

00:09:58I had no inflation, virtually no inflation.

00:10:01They had the highest inflation, perhaps in the history of our country, because I've never

00:10:05seen a worse period of time.

00:10:07People can't go out and buy cereal or bacon or eggs or anything else.

00:10:12The people of our country are absolutely dying with what they've done.

00:10:17They've destroyed the economy.

00:10:18And all you have to do is look at a poll.

00:10:20The polls say 80 and 85 and even 90 percent that the Trump economy was great, that their

00:10:26economy was terrible.

00:10:28Vice President Harris, I do want to ask for your response.

00:10:30And you heard what the president said there, because the Biden administration did keep

00:10:34a number of the Trump tariffs in place.

00:10:36So how do you respond?

00:10:37Well, let's be clear that the Trump administration resulted in a trade deficit, one of the highest

00:10:42we've ever seen in the history of America.

00:10:45He invited trade wars.

00:10:47You want to talk about his deal with China.

00:10:50What he ended up doing is under Donald Trump's presidency, he ended up selling American chips

00:10:56to China to help them improve and modernize their military, basically sold us out when

00:11:04a policy about China should be in making sure the United States of America wins the

00:11:09competition for the 21st century, which means focusing on the details of what that requires,

00:11:16focusing on relationships with our allies, focusing on investing in American-based technology

00:11:21so that we win the race on A.I., on quantum computing, focusing on what we need to do

00:11:27to support America's workforce so that we don't end up having on the short end of the

00:11:33stick in terms of workers' rights.

00:11:36But what Donald Trump did, let's talk about this, with COVID, is he actually thanked President

00:11:42Xi for what he did during COVID.

00:11:44Look at his tweet.

00:11:45Thank you, President Xi, exclamation point, when we know that Xi was responsible for lacking

00:11:53and not giving us transparency about the origins of COVID.

00:11:57President Trump, I'll let you respond.

00:11:58First of all, they bought their chips from Taiwan.

00:12:01We hardly make chips anymore because of philosophies like they have and policies like they have.

00:12:08I don't say her because she has no policy.

00:12:11Everything that she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window.

00:12:15She's going to my philosophy now.

00:12:16In fact, I was going to send her a MAGA hat.

00:12:19She's gone to my philosophy.

00:12:20But if she ever got elected, she'd change it and it will be the end of our country.

00:12:26She's a Marxist.

00:12:27Everybody knows she's a Marxist.

00:12:29Her father is a Marxist professor in economics, and he taught her well.

00:12:34But when you look at what she's done to our country, and when you look at these millions

00:12:38and millions of people that are pouring into our country monthly, where it's, I believe,

00:12:4321 million people, not the 15 that people say.

00:12:46And I think it's a lot higher than the 21.

00:12:48That's bigger than New York State pouring in.

00:12:50And just look at what they're doing to our country.

00:12:53They're criminals.

00:12:54Many of these people coming in are criminals.

00:12:56And that's bad for our economy, too.

00:12:58You know, you mentioned before, we'll talk about immigration later.

00:13:01Well, bad immigration is the worst thing that can happen to our economy.

00:13:05They have, and she has, destroyed our country with policy that's insane, almost policy that

00:13:13you'd say they have to hate our country.

00:13:15President Trump.

00:13:17Lindsey.

00:13:18I want to turn to the issue of abortion.

00:13:19President Trump, you've often touted that you were able to kill Roe v. Wade last year.

00:13:23You said that you were proud to be the most pro-life president in American history.

00:13:29Then last month, you said that your administration would be great for women and their reproductive

00:13:33rights.

00:13:34In your home state of Florida, you surprised many with regard to your six-week abortion

00:13:38ban because you initially had said that it was too short.

00:13:41And you said, quote, I'm going to be voting that we need more than six weeks.

00:13:45But then the very next day, you reversed course and said you would vote to support the six-week

00:13:49ban.

00:13:50Vice President Harris says that women shouldn't trust you on the issue of abortion because

00:13:55you've changed your position so many times.

00:13:58Therefore, why should they trust you?

00:14:00Well, the reason I'm doing that vote is because the plan is, as you know, the vote is, they

00:14:05have abortion in the ninth month.

00:14:08They even have, and you can look at the governor of West Virginia, the previous governor of

00:14:12West Virginia, not the current governor, is doing an excellent job, but the governor before,

00:14:17he said the baby will be born and we will decide what to do with the baby.

00:14:21In other words, we'll execute the baby.

00:14:23And that's why I did that, because that predominates because they're radical.

00:14:27The Democrats are radical in that.

00:14:29And her vice presidential pick, which I think is a horrible pick, by the way, for our country,

00:14:35because he is really out of it.

00:14:37But her vice presidential pick says abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine.

00:14:42He also says execution after birth.

00:14:45It's execution, no longer abortion, because the baby is born is OK.

00:14:50And that's not OK with me.

00:14:52Hence the vote.

00:14:53But what I did is something for 52 years they've been trying to get Roe v. Wade into the states.

00:15:00And through the genius and heart and strength of six Supreme Court justices, we were able

00:15:09to do that.

00:15:10Now, I believe in the exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother.

00:15:15I believe strongly in it.

00:15:16Ronald Reagan did also.

00:15:17Eighty five percent of Republicans do exceptions.

00:15:20Very important.

00:15:21But we were able to get it.

00:15:23And now states are voting on it.

00:15:25And for the first time, you're going to see, look, this is an issue that's torn our country

00:15:30apart for 52 years.

00:15:33Every legal scholar, every Democrat, every Republican, liberal, conservative, they all

00:15:38wanted this issue to be brought back to the states where the people could vote.

00:15:42And that's what happened.

00:15:43And now, Ohio, the vote was somewhat liberal.

00:15:47Kansas, the vote was somewhat liberal, much more liberal than people would have thought.

00:15:52But each individual state is voting.

00:15:55It's the vote of the people now.

00:15:56It's not tied up in the federal government.

00:15:58I did a great service in doing it.

00:16:00It took courage to do it.

00:16:01And the Supreme Court had great courage in doing it.

00:16:04And I give tremendous credit to those six justices.

00:16:07There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it's born.

00:16:12Donna, Vice President, I want to get your response to President Trump.

00:16:14Well, as I said, you're going to hear a bunch of lies.

00:16:17And that's not actually a surprising fact.

00:16:20Let's understand how we got here.

00:16:22Donald Trump hand-selected three members of the United States Supreme Court with the intention

00:16:28that they would undo the protections of Roe v. Wade.

00:16:31And they did exactly as he intended.

00:16:34And now in over 20 states, there are Trump abortion bans, which make it criminal for

00:16:42a doctor or nurse to provide health care.

00:16:45In one state, it provides prison for life.

00:16:48Trump abortion bans that make no exception even for rape and incest, which understand

00:16:53what that means.

00:16:54A survivor of a crime, a violation to their body, does not have the right to make a decision

00:17:00about what happens to their body next.

00:17:02That is immoral.

00:17:05And one does not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree.

00:17:11The government, and Donald Trump certainly, should not be telling a woman what to do with

00:17:16her body.

00:17:17I have talked with women around our country.

00:17:21You want to talk about this is what people wanted?

00:17:24Pregnant women who want to carry a pregnancy to term, suffering from a miscarriage, being

00:17:29denied care in an emergency room because the health care providers are afraid they might

00:17:34go to jail, and she's bleeding out in a car in the parking lot?

00:17:38She didn't want that?

00:17:40Her husband didn't want that?

00:17:42A 12 or 13-year-old survivor of incest being forced to carry a pregnancy to term?

00:17:48They don't want that?

00:17:51And I pledge to you, when Congress passes a bill to put back in place the protections

00:17:57of Roe v. Wade as President of the United States, I will proudly sign it into law.

00:18:03But understand, if Donald Trump were to be reelected, he will sign a national abortion

00:18:09ban.

00:18:10Understand, in his Project 2025, there would be a national abortion monitor that would

00:18:15be monitoring your pregnancies, your miscarriages.

00:18:18I think the American people believe that certain freedoms, in particular the freedom to make

00:18:24decisions about one's own body, should not be made by the government.

00:18:29Thank you, Vice President Harris.

00:18:30Well, there she goes again.

00:18:32It's a lie.

00:18:33I'm not signing a ban, and there's no reason to sign a ban, because we've gotten what everybody

00:18:39wanted.

00:18:40Democrats, Republicans, and everybody else, and every legal scholar wanted it to be brought

00:18:45back into the states.

00:18:46And the states are voting.

00:18:48And it may take a little time, but for 52 years, this issue has torn our country apart.

00:18:55And they've wanted it back in the states.

00:18:57And I did something that nobody thought was possible.

00:19:01The states are now voting.

00:19:03What she says is an absolute lie.

00:19:06As far as the abortion ban, no.

00:19:08I'm not in favor of abortion ban, but it doesn't matter, because this issue has now been taken

00:19:13over by the states.

00:19:14Would you veto a national abortion ban if it came to your desk?

00:19:16Well, I won't have to, because again, two things.

00:19:19Number one, she said she'll go back to Congress.

00:19:21She'll never get the vote.

00:19:22It's impossible for her to get the vote, especially now with the 50-50, essentially 50-50 in both

00:19:29Senate and the House.

00:19:30She's not going to get the vote.

00:19:31She can't get the vote.

00:19:32She won't even come close to it.

00:19:33So it's just talk.

00:19:35You know what it reminds me of?

00:19:36When they said they're going to get student loans terminated, and it ended up being a

00:19:39total catastrophe.

00:19:41The student loans.

00:19:42And then her, I think probably her boss, if you call him a boss, he spends all his time

00:19:47on the beach.

00:19:48But look, her boss went out and said, we'll do it again.

00:19:52We'll do it a different way.

00:19:53And he went out, got rejected again by the Supreme Court.

00:19:56So all these students got taunted with this whole thing about this whole idea.

00:20:01And how unfair that would have been.

00:20:03That's part of the reason they lost to the millions and millions of people that had to

00:20:07pay off their student loans.

00:20:09They didn't get it for free.

00:20:10But they were saying it's the same way that they talked about that, that they talk about

00:20:14abortion.

00:20:15But if I could just get a yes or no, because you're running me, J.D. Vance has said that

00:20:19you would veto if it did come to your desk.

00:20:21Well, I didn't discuss it with J.D. In all fairness, J.D. and I don't mind if he has

00:20:27a certain view, but I think you're speaking for me.

00:20:29But I really didn't look.

00:20:32We don't have to discuss it because she'd never be able to get it, just like she couldn't

00:20:36get student loans.

00:20:37They couldn't get student loans.

00:20:38They didn't even come close to getting student loans.

00:20:40They taunted young people and a lot of other people that had loans.

00:20:44They can never get this approved.

00:20:46So it doesn't matter what she says about going to Congress.

00:20:48So wonderful.

00:20:49Let's go to Congress.

00:20:50Do it.

00:20:51But the fact is that for years they wanted to get it out of Congress and out of the federal

00:20:54government.

00:20:55And we did something that everybody said couldn't be done.

00:20:58And now you have a vote of the people on abortion.

00:21:01Vice President Harris, I want to give you your time to respond.

00:21:03But I do want to ask, would you support any restrictions on a woman's right to an abortion?

00:21:08I absolutely support reinstating the protections of Roe v. Wade.

00:21:12And as you rightly mentioned, nowhere in America is a woman carrying a pregnancy to term and

00:21:22asking for an abortion.

00:21:24That is not happening.

00:21:25It's insulting to the women of America.

00:21:27And understand what has been happening under Donald Trump's abortion bans.

00:21:32Couples who pray and dream of having a family are being denied IVF treatments.

00:21:40What is happening in our country?

00:21:43Working people, working women who are working one or two jobs, who can barely afford child

00:21:50care as it is, have to travel to another state to get on a plane sitting next to strangers

00:21:57to go and get the health care she needs, barely can afford to do it.

00:22:02And what you are putting her through is unconscionable.

00:22:07And the people of America have not.

00:22:10The majority of Americans believe in a woman's right to make decisions about her own body.

00:22:14And that is why in every state where this issue has been on the ballot in red and blue

00:22:20states, both the people of America have voted for freedom.

00:22:24Vice President.

00:22:25Excuse me.

00:22:26I have to respond.

00:22:28It's another lie.

00:22:29I have been a leader on IVF with which is fertilization.

00:22:32The IVF.

00:22:33I have been a leader.

00:22:35In fact, when they got a very negative decision on IVF from the Alabama courts, I saw the

00:22:41people of Alabama and the legislature two days later voted it in.

00:22:45I've been a leader on it.

00:22:47They know that.

00:22:48And everybody else knows it.

00:22:49I have been a leader on fertilization IVF.

00:22:52And the other thing they you should ask.

00:22:57Will she allow abortion in the eighth month?

00:22:59Ninth month?

00:23:00Seventh month?

00:23:01Come on.

00:23:02Okay.

00:23:03Would you do that?

00:23:04Why don't you ask that question?

00:23:05That's the problem.

00:23:06Why don't you answer the question?

00:23:07Would you veto?

00:23:08Answer the question.

00:23:09Would you veto?

00:23:10You could do abortions in the seventh month, the eighth month, the ninth month and probably

00:23:14after birth.

00:23:15Just look at the governor, former governor of Virginia, the governor of Virginia said

00:23:20we put the baby aside and then we determine what we want to do with the baby.

00:23:24President Trump, thank you.

00:23:25We're going to turn now to immigration and border security.

00:23:27We know it's an issue that's important to Republicans, Democrats, voters across the

00:23:31board in this country.

00:23:33Vice President Harris, you were tasked by President Biden with getting to the root causes

00:23:36of migration from Central America.

00:23:39We know that illegal border crossings reached a record high in the Biden administration.

00:23:43This past June, President Biden imposed tough new asylum restrictions.

00:23:47We know the numbers since then have dropped significantly.

00:23:51But my question to you tonight is why did the administration wait until six months before

00:23:54the election to act?

00:23:56And would you have done anything differently from President Biden on this?

00:23:59So I'm the only person on this stage who has prosecuted transnational criminal organizations

00:24:04for the trafficking of guns, drugs and human beings.

00:24:08And let me say that the United States Congress, including some of the most conservative members

00:24:13of the United States Senate, came up with a border security bill, which I supported.

00:24:20And that bill would have put fifteen hundred more border agents on the border to help those

00:24:25folks who are working there right now over time trying to do their job.

00:24:29It would have allowed us to stem the flow of fentanyl coming into the United States.

00:24:35I know there are so many families watching tonight who have been personally affected

00:24:39by the surge of fentanyl in our country.

00:24:41That bill would have put more resources to allow us to prosecute transnational criminal

00:24:47organizations for trafficking in guns, drugs and human beings.

00:24:50But you know what happened to that bill?

00:24:52Donald Trump got on the phone, called up some folks in Congress and said, kill the bill.

00:24:57And you know why?

00:24:59Because he'd prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem.

00:25:04And understand, this comes at a time where the people of our country actually need a

00:25:10leader who engages in solutions, who actually addresses the problems at hand.

00:25:17But what we have in the former president is someone who would prefer to run on a problem

00:25:21instead of fixing a problem.

00:25:23And I'll tell you something, he's going to talk about immigration a lot tonight, even

00:25:26when it's not the subject that is being raised.

00:25:29And I'm going to actually do something really unusual, and I'm going to invite you to attend

00:25:33one of Donald Trump's rallies, because it's a really interesting thing to watch.

00:25:37You will see during the course of his rallies, he talks about fictional characters like Hannibal

00:25:41Lecter.

00:25:42He will talk about when mills cause cancer.

00:25:46And what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early, out of exhaustion

00:25:51and boredom.

00:25:52And I will tell you, the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you.

00:25:56You will not hear him talk about your needs, your dreams and your desires.

00:26:01And I'll tell you, I believe you deserve a president who actually puts you first.

00:26:06And I pledge to you that I will.

00:26:07Vice President Harris.

00:26:08Thank you, President Trump.

00:26:09On that point, I want to get your response.

00:26:10I would like to respond.

00:26:11Let me just ask, though.

00:26:12Why did you try to kill that bill and successfully so that would have put thousands of additional

00:26:16agents and officers on the border?

00:26:17First, let me respond to the rallies.

00:26:20She said people start leaving.

00:26:21People don't go to her rallies.

00:26:22There's no reason to go.

00:26:24And the people that do go, she's busing them in and paying them to be there and then showing

00:26:30them in a different light.

00:26:31So she can't talk about that.

00:26:33People don't leave my rallies.

00:26:34We have the biggest rallies, the most incredible rallies in the history of politics.

00:26:38That's because people want to take their country back.

00:26:41Our country is being lost.

00:26:43We're a failing nation.

00:26:44And it happened three and a half years ago.

00:26:47And what what's going on here, you're going to end up in World War Three just to go into

00:26:51another subject.

00:26:53What they have done to our country by allowing these millions and millions of people to come

00:26:58into our country and look at what's happening to the towns all over the United States and

00:27:03a lot of towns don't want to talk.

00:27:04It's not going to be Aurora or Springfield.

00:27:06A lot of towns don't want to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it.

00:27:10In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in.

00:27:14They're eating the cats.

00:27:16They're eating.

00:27:17They're eating the pets of the people that live there.

00:27:22And this is what's happening in our country.

00:27:24And it's a shame as far as rallies are concerned, as far as the reason they go is they like

00:27:30what I say.

00:27:31They want to bring our country back.

00:27:33They want to make America great again.

00:27:35It's a very simple phrase.

00:27:37Make America great again.

00:27:38She's destroying this country.

00:27:40And if she becomes president, this country doesn't have a chance of success.

00:27:45Not only success will end up being Venezuela on steroids.

00:27:49I just want to clarify here, you bring up Springfield, Ohio, and ABC News did reach

00:27:54out to the city manager there.

00:27:55He told us there had been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured

00:28:00or abused by individuals within the immigrant community.

00:28:03Well, I've seen people on television.

00:28:04Let me just say here.

00:28:05The people on television say my dog was taken and used for food.

00:28:10So maybe he said that, and maybe that's a good thing to say for a city manager.

00:28:13I'm not taking this from television.

00:28:14I'm taking it from the city manager.

00:28:15But the people on television say my dog was eaten by the people that went there.

00:28:19Again, the Springfield city manager says there's no evidence of that.

00:28:22Vice President Harris, I'll let you respond to the rest of what you've heard.

00:28:26You talk about extreme.

00:28:29You know, this is, I think, one of the reasons why in this election, I actually have the

00:28:35endorsement of 200 Republicans who have formally worked with President Bush, Mitt Romney and

00:28:43John McCain, including the endorsement of former Vice President Dick Cheney and Congress

00:28:49member Liz Cheney.

00:28:52And if you want to really know the inside track on who the former president is, if he

00:28:58didn't make it clear already, just ask people who have worked with him.

00:29:02His former chief of staff, a four-star general, has said he has contempt for the Constitution

00:29:06of the United States.

00:29:08His former national security adviser has said he is dangerous and unfit.

00:29:13His former secretary of defense has said the nation, the republic, would never survive

00:29:19another Trump term.

00:29:22And when we listen to this kind of rhetoric, when the issues that affect the American people

00:29:29are not being addressed, I think the choice is clear in this election.

00:29:33President Trump will give you a quick minute to respond.

00:29:37Because when I hear that, see, I'm a different kind of a person.

00:29:40I fired most of those people.

00:29:43Not so graciously.

00:29:44They did bad things or a bad job.

00:29:46I fired him.

00:29:47They never fired one person.

00:29:49They didn't fire anybody having to do with Afghanistan and the Taliban and the 13 people

00:29:55whose were just killed, viciously and violently killed.

00:29:58And I got to know the parents and the family.

00:30:01They didn't fire.

00:30:02They should have fired all those generals, all those top people, because that was one

00:30:05of the most incompetently handled situations anybody has ever seen.

00:30:10So when somebody does a bad job, I fire them.

00:30:14And you take a guy like Esper.

00:30:15He was no good.

00:30:16I fired him.

00:30:17So he writes a book.

00:30:19Because with me, they can write books with nobody else, can they?

00:30:22But they have done such a poor job and they never fire anybody.

00:30:27Look at the economy.

00:30:28Look, look at the inflation.

00:30:30They didn't fire any of their economists.

00:30:32They have the same people.

00:30:33That's a good way not to have books written about you.

00:30:36But just to finish, I got more votes than any Republican in history by far.

00:30:43In fact, I got more votes than any president, sitting president in history by far.

00:30:50Let me continue on immigration.

00:30:51It was what you wanted to talk about earlier.

00:30:52So let's get back to your deportation proposal that the vice president has reacted to as

00:30:58well.

00:30:59President Trump, you call this the largest domestic deportation operation in the history

00:31:02of our country.

00:31:03You say you would use the National Guard.

00:31:05You say if things get out of control, you'd have no problem using the U.S. military.

00:31:09You also said you would use local police.

00:31:12How would you deport 11 million undocumented immigrants?

00:31:15I know you believe that number is much higher.

00:31:18Take us through this.

00:31:19What does this look like?

00:31:20Will authorities be going door to door in this country?

00:31:22Yeah, it is much higher because of them.

00:31:25They allowed criminals, many, many millions of criminals.

00:31:29They allowed terrorists.

00:31:30They allowed common street criminals.

00:31:33They allowed people to come in, drug dealers to come into our country.

00:31:36And they're now in the United States and told by their countries like Venezuela, don't

00:31:42ever come back or we're going to kill you.

00:31:44Do you know that crime in Venezuela and crime in countries all over the world is way down?

00:31:51You know why?

00:31:52Because they've taken their criminals off the street and they've given them to her to

00:31:55put into our country.

00:31:57And this will be one of the greatest mistakes in history for them to allow.

00:32:02And I think they probably did it because they think they're going to get votes.

00:32:05But it's not worth it because they're they're destroying the fabric of our country by what

00:32:10they've done.

00:32:11There's never been anything done like this at all.

00:32:14They've destroyed the fabric of our country.

00:32:17Millions of people let in and all over the world.

00:32:20Crime is down all over the world, except here.

00:32:23Crime here is up and through the roof, despite their fraudulent statements that they made.

00:32:28Crime in this country is through the roof.

00:32:30And we have a new form of crime.

00:32:31It's called migrant crime and it's happening at levels that nobody thought possible.

00:32:36President Trump, as you know, the FBI says overall violent crime is actually coming down

00:32:39in this country.

00:32:40But excuse me, the FBI defraud.

00:32:42They were defrauding statements.

00:32:44They didn't include the worst cities.

00:32:46They didn't include the cities with the worst crime.

00:32:49It was a fraud, just like their number of eight hundred and eighteen thousand jobs that

00:32:54they said they created turned out to be a fraud.

00:32:56President Trump, thank you.

00:32:57I'll let you respond.

00:32:58Vice President Harris.

00:32:59I have a message coming from someone who has been prosecuted for national security crimes,

00:33:07economic crimes, election interference, has been found liable for sexual assault.

00:33:14And his next big court appearance is in November at his own criminal sentencing.

00:33:20And let's be clear where each person stands on the issue of what is important about respect

00:33:27for the rule of law and respect for law enforcement.

00:33:30The former vice president called for defunding federal law enforcement, 45000 agents.

00:33:37Get this on the day after he was arraigned on 34 felony counts.

00:33:43So let's talk about what is important in this race.

00:33:46It is important that we move forward, that we turn the page on this same old tired rhetoric

00:33:53and address the needs of the American people.

00:33:57Address what we need to do about the housing shortage, which I have a plan for.

00:34:02Address what we must do to support our small businesses.

00:34:06Address bringing down the price of groceries.

00:34:08But frankly, the American people are exhausted with this same old tired playbook.

00:34:14Vice President Harris.

00:34:16Excuse me.

00:34:17Every one of those cases was started by them against their political opponent.

00:34:21And I'm winning most of them and I will win the rest on appeal.

00:34:24And you saw that with the decision that came down just recently from the Supreme Court.

00:34:28I'm winning most of them.

00:34:30But those are cases.

00:34:31It's called weaponization.

00:34:32Never happened in this country.

00:34:34They weaponized the Justice Department.

00:34:37Every one of those cases was involved with the DOJ from Atlanta and Fonny Willis to the

00:34:44attorney general of New York and the D.A. in New York.

00:34:47Every one of those cases.

00:34:49And then they say, oh, he was he's a criminal.

00:34:52They're the ones that made them go after me.

00:34:55By the way, Joe Biden was found essentially guilty on the documents case.

00:35:00And what happened in my documents case?

00:35:02They said, oh, that's the toughest of them all.

00:35:04A complete and total victory.

00:35:06Two months ago, it was thrown out.

00:35:09It's weaponization.

00:35:10And they used it.

00:35:11And it's never happened in this country.

00:35:13They used it to try and win an election.

00:35:16They're fake cases.

00:35:17President Trump.

00:35:18Can you give me a quick response here, Vice President Harris, on this notion of weaponization

00:35:21of the Justice Department?

00:35:22Well, let's talk about extreme and understand the context in which this election in twenty

00:35:27twenty four is taking place.

00:35:28The United States Supreme Court recently ruled that the former president would essentially

00:35:33be immune from any misconduct if he were to enter the White House again.

00:35:40Understand this is someone who has openly said he would terminate.

00:35:43I'm quoting terminate the Constitution of the United States, that he would weaponize

00:35:48the Department of Justice against his political enemies.

00:35:53Someone who has openly expressed disdain for members of our military.

00:36:00Understand what it would mean if Donald Trump were back in the White House with no guardrails.

00:36:05Because certainly we know now the court won't stop him.

00:36:08We know J.D. Vance is not going to stop him.

00:36:11It's up to the American people, Vice President Harris.

00:36:13Thank you, Lindsay.

00:36:14Vice President Harris, in your last run for president, we got this is the one that weaponized

00:36:20not me.

00:36:21She weaponized.

00:36:22I probably took a bullet to the head because of the things that they say about me.

00:36:27They talk about democracy.

00:36:29I'm a threat to democracy.

00:36:31They're the threat to democracy with a fake Russia, Russia, Russia investigation.

00:36:36We do a lot that went nowhere.

00:36:37We have a lot to get to.

00:36:38Vice President Harris, in your last run for president, you said you wanted to ban fracking.

00:36:43Now you don't.

00:36:44You wanted mandatory government buyback programs for assault weapons.

00:36:47Now your campaign says you don't.

00:36:49You supported decriminalizing border crossings.

00:36:51Now you're taking a harder line.

00:36:53I know you say that your values have not changed.

00:36:56So then why have so many of your policy positions changed?

00:36:59So my values have not changed.

00:37:01And I'm going to discuss every one of the at least every point that you've made.

00:37:05But in particular, let's talk about fracking, because we're here in Pennsylvania.

00:37:09I made that very clear in 2020.

00:37:10I will not ban fracking.

00:37:12I have not banned fracking as vice president of the United States.

00:37:14And in fact, I was the tie-breaking vote on the Inflation Reduction Act, which opened

00:37:20new leases for fracking.

00:37:23My position is that we have got to invest in diverse sources of energy so we reduce

00:37:30our reliance on foreign oil.

00:37:32We have had the largest increase in domestic oil production in history because of an approach

00:37:40that recognizes that we cannot over-rely on foreign oil.

00:37:45As it relates to my values, let me tell you, I grew up a middle-class kid raised by a hard-working

00:37:49mother who worked and saved and was able to buy our first home when I was a teenager.

00:37:56The values I bring to the importance of home ownership, knowing not everybody got handed

00:38:01$400 million on a silver platter and then filed bankruptcy six times, is a value that

00:38:07I bring to my work to say we are going to work with the private sector and home builders

00:38:12to increase 3 million homes, increase by 3 million homes by the end of my first term.

00:38:18My work that is related to having a friend when I was in high school who was sexually

00:38:23assaulted by her stepfather.

00:38:25My focus then on protecting women and children from violent crime is based on a value that

00:38:30is deeply grounded in the importance of standing up for those who are most vulnerable.

00:38:36My work that is about protecting Social Security and Medicare is based on long-standing work

00:38:41that I have done protecting seniors from scams.

00:38:45My values have not changed.

00:38:48And what is important is that there is a president who actually brings values and a perspective

00:38:54that is about lifting people up and not beating people down and name-calling.

00:39:01The true measure of the leader is the leader who actually understands the strength is not

00:39:08in beating people down, it's in lifting people up.

00:39:10I intend to be that president.

00:39:13President Trump, your response?

00:39:14Well, first of all, I wasn't given $400 million.

00:39:16I wish I was.

00:39:17My father was a Brooklyn builder, Brooklyn Queens, and a great father, and I learned

00:39:21a lot from him.

00:39:22He was given a fraction of that, a tiny fraction, and it built it into many, many billions

00:39:26of dollars.

00:39:27Many, many billions.

00:39:29And when people see it, they are even surprised.

00:39:31So we don't have to talk about that.

00:39:33Fracking, she's been against it for 12 years.

00:39:37Defund the police, she's been against that forever.

00:39:40She gave all that stuff up very wrongly, very horribly.

00:39:45And everybody's laughing at it, okay?

00:39:47They're all laughing at it.

00:39:48She gave up at least 12 and probably 14 or 15 different policies.

00:39:53Like, she was big on defund the police.

00:39:55In Minnesota, she went out, wait a minute, I'm talking now, if you don't mind, please.

00:40:01Does that sound familiar?

00:40:04She went out, she went out in Minnesota and wanted to let criminals that killed people

00:40:12that burned down Minneapolis, she went out and raised money to get them out of jail.

00:40:17She did things that nobody would ever think of.

00:40:19Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison.

00:40:25This is a radical left liberal that would do this.

00:40:29She wants to confiscate your guns and she will never allow fracking in Pennsylvania.

00:40:34If she won the election, fracking in Pennsylvania will end on day one.

00:40:38Just to finish one thing, so important in my opinion.

00:40:42So I got the oil business going like nobody has ever done before.

00:40:47When they took over, they got rid of it, started getting rid of it and the prices were going

00:40:52up the roof.

00:40:53They immediately let these guys go to where they were.

00:40:58I would have been five times, four times, five times higher because you're talking about

00:41:03three and a half years ago.

00:41:04They got it up to where I was because they had no choice because the prices of energy

00:41:09were quadrupling and doubling.

00:41:11You saw what happened to gasoline.

00:41:13So they said, let's go back to Trump.

00:41:15But if she won the election, the day after that election, they'll go back to destroying

00:41:19our country and oil will be dead.

00:41:21Fossil fuel will be dead.

00:41:23We'll go back to windmills and we'll go back to solar where they need a whole desert to

00:41:27get some energy to come out of it.

00:41:29You ever see a solar plant?

00:41:30By the way, I'm a big fan of solar, but they take 400, 500 acres of desert soil.

00:41:37These are not good things for the environment that she understands.

00:41:42Lindsey, thank you.

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01:03:14And what you think is a friendship with what is known to be a dictator who would eat you

01:03:19for lunch.

01:03:21Vice President Harris, thank you.

01:03:22We've heard from both of you on Ukraine tonight.

01:03:24Afghanistan came up in the last hour.

01:03:27I wanted her to respond to something you said earlier, and I'll — please, I'll give you

01:03:31a minute here.

01:03:32PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

01:03:33PUTIN WOULD BE SITTING IN MOSCOW, AND HE WOULDN'T HAVE LOST 300,000 MEN AND WOMEN,

01:03:38BUT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN SITTING IN MOSCOW — quiet, please.

01:03:42He would have been sitting in Moscow much happier than he is right now, but eventually,

01:03:48you know, he's got a thing that other people don't have.

01:03:50He's got nuclear weapons.

01:03:51They don't ever talk about that.

01:03:52He's got nuclear weapons.

01:03:54Nobody ever thinks about that.

01:03:56And eventually, maybe he'll use them, and maybe he hasn't been that threatening.

01:04:01But he does have that, something we don't even like to talk about.

01:04:05Nobody likes to talk about it.

01:04:06But just so you understand, they sent her to negotiate peace before this war started.

01:04:11Three days later, he went in and he started the war because everything they said was weak

01:04:17and stupid.

01:04:18They said the wrong things.

01:04:20That war should have never started.

01:04:22She was the emissary.

01:04:23They sent her in to negotiate with Zelensky and Putin, and she did, and the war started

01:04:30three days later.

01:04:31And that's the kind of talent we have with her.

01:04:34She's worse than Biden, in my opinion.

01:04:35I think he's the worst president in the history of our country.

01:04:38She goes down as the worst vice president in the history of our country.

01:04:42But let me tell you something.

01:04:43She is a horrible negotiator.

01:04:46They sent her in to negotiate.

01:04:48As soon as they left, Putin did the invasion.

01:04:51President Trump, thank you.

01:04:52You did bring up something.

01:04:53You said she went to negotiate with Vladimir Putin.

01:04:55Vice President Harris, have you ever met Vladimir Putin?

01:04:57Can you clarify tonight?

01:04:58Yet again, I said at the beginning of this debate, you're going to hear a bunch of lies

01:05:01coming from this fellow.

01:05:03And that is another one.

01:05:05When I went to meet with President Zelensky, I've now met with him over five times.

01:05:10The reality is it has been about standing as America always should, as a leader upholding

01:05:17international rules and norms, as a leader who shows strength, understanding that the

01:05:23alliances we have around the world are dependent on our ability to look out for our friends

01:05:30and not favor our enemies because you adore strongmen instead of caring about democracy.

01:05:39And that is very much what is at stake here.

01:05:42The president of the United States is commander in chief.

01:05:45And the American people have a right to rely on a president who understands the significance

01:05:53of America's role and responsibility in terms of ensuring that there is stability and ensuring

01:05:59we stand up for our principles and not sell them for the for the benefit of personal flattery.

01:06:07We've talked about Ukraine and Vladimir Putin.

01:06:09I do want to talk about Afghanistan.

01:06:10It came up in the first hour of this debate.

01:06:13I want to move on to Afghanistan, said Trump did the most amazing thing I've ever seen.

01:06:18He got these countries, the 28 countries at the time to pay up.

01:06:23He said, I've never seen he's the head of NATO.

01:06:25He said, I've never seen for years.

01:06:27We were paying almost all of NATO.

01:06:30We were being ripped off by European nations, both on trade and on NATO.

01:06:34I got them to pay up by saying one of the statements you made before.

01:06:38If you don't pay, we're not going to protect you.

01:06:41Otherwise, we would have never gotten it.

01:06:42He said it was one of the most incredible jobs that he's ever seen done.

01:06:47I want to turn to Afghanistan.

01:06:48It came up in the first hour of the debate, and we witnessed a poignant moment today on

01:06:52Capitol Hill honoring the soldiers who died in the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan.

01:06:56I do want to ask the vice president, do you believe you bear any responsibility in the

01:07:01way that withdrawal played out?

01:07:03Well, I will tell you, I agreed with President Biden's decision to pull out of Afghanistan.

01:07:09Four presidents said they would, and Joe Biden did.

01:07:13And as a result, America's taxpayers are not paying the $300 million a day.

01:07:18We were paying for that endless war.

01:07:20And as of today, there is not one member of the United States military who is in active

01:07:27duty in a combat zone in any war zone around the world the first time this century.

01:07:33But let's understand how we got to where we are.

01:07:36Donald Trump, when he was president, negotiated one of the weakest deals you can imagine.

01:07:42He calls himself a dealmaker.

01:07:44Even his national security advisor said it was a weak, terrible deal.

01:07:49And here's how it went down.

01:07:51He bypassed the Afghan government.

01:07:53He negotiated directly with a terrorist organization called the Taliban.

01:07:58The negotiation involved the Taliban getting 5,000 terrorists, Taliban terrorists, released.

01:08:04And get this.

01:08:05No, get this.

01:08:07And the president at the time invited the Taliban to Camp David, a place of storied

01:08:15significance for us as Americans, a place where we honor the importance of American

01:08:20diplomacy, where we invite and receive respected world leaders.

01:08:26And this former president, as president, invited them to Camp David because he does not again

01:08:37appreciate the role and responsibility of the president of the United States to be commander

01:08:45in chief with a level of respect.

01:08:47And this gets back to the point of how he has consistently disparaged and demeaned members

01:08:52of our military, fallen soldiers, and the work that we must do to uphold the strength

01:08:59and the respect of the United States of America around the world.

01:09:03Vice President Harris, thank you.

01:09:04President Trump, your response to her saying that you began the negotiations with the Taliban.

01:09:08So if you take a look at that period of time, the Taliban was killing our soldiers, a lot

01:09:16of them with snipers.

01:09:18And I got involved with the Taliban because the Taliban was doing the killing.

01:09:23That's the fighting force within Afghanistan.

01:09:25They don't bother doing that because, you know, they deal with the wrong people all

01:09:27the time.

01:09:28But I got involved and Abdul is the head of the Taliban.

01:09:33He is still the head of the Taliban.

01:09:35And I told Abdul, don't do it anymore.

01:09:37You do it anymore.

01:09:38You're going to have problems.

01:09:40And he said, why do you send me a picture of my house?

01:09:42I said, you're going to have to figure that out, Abdul.

01:09:45And for 18 months, we had nobody killed.

01:09:48We did have an agreement negotiated by Mike Pompeo.

01:09:50It was a very good agreement.

01:09:52The reason it was good, it was we were getting out.

01:09:55We would have been out faster than that, but we wouldn't have lost the soldiers.

01:09:58We wouldn't have left many Americans behind and we wouldn't have left.

01:10:02We wouldn't have left eighty five billion dollars worth of brand new, beautiful military

01:10:07equipment behind.

01:10:08And just to finish, they blew it.

01:10:12The agreement said you have to do this, this, this, this, this.

01:10:16And they didn't do it.

01:10:17They didn't do it.

01:10:18The agreement was was terminated by us because they didn't do what they were supposed to

01:10:25do.

01:10:26I want to move on.

01:10:27These people did the worst withdrawal and, in my opinion, the most embarrassing moment

01:10:32in the history of our country.

01:10:33And by the way, that's why Russia attacked Ukraine, because they saw how incompetent

01:10:38she and her boss are.

01:10:40President Trump, thank you.

01:10:42I want to move on now to race and politics in this country.

01:10:45Mr. President, you recently said of Vice President Harris, quote, I didn't know she was black

01:10:48until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black.

01:10:52And now she wants to be known as black.

01:10:54I want to ask a bigger picture question here tonight.

01:10:57Why do you believe it's appropriate to weigh in on the racial identity of your opponent?

01:11:01I don't and I don't care.

01:11:03I don't care what she is.

01:11:04I don't care.

01:11:06You make a big deal out of something.

01:11:08I couldn't care less.

01:11:09Whatever she wants to be is OK with me.

01:11:12But those were your words.

01:11:13So I don't know.

01:11:14I don't know.

01:11:15I mean, all I can say is I read where she was not black that she put out.

01:11:20And I'll say that.

01:11:21And then I read that she was black.

01:11:24And that's OK.

01:11:25Either one was OK with me.

01:11:26That's up to her.

01:11:27That's up to her.

01:11:28Vice President Harris, your thoughts on this?

01:11:31I think it's I mean, honestly, I think it's a tragedy that we have someone who wants to

01:11:38be president who has consistently over the course of his career attempted to use race

01:11:44to divide the American people.

01:11:47You know, I do believe that the vast majority of us know that we have so much more in common

01:11:51than what separates us.

01:11:52And we don't want this kind of approach that is just constantly trying to divide us and

01:11:57especially by race.

01:11:58And let's remember how Donald Trump started.

01:12:02He was a land.

01:12:05He owned land.

01:12:06He owned buildings.

01:12:08And he was investigated because he refused to rent property to black families.

01:12:16Let's remember, this is the same individual who took out a full page ad in The New York

01:12:21Times calling for the execution of five young black and Latino boys who were innocent.

01:12:31The Central Park Five took out a full page ad calling for their execution.

01:12:37This is the same individual who spread birther lies about the first black president of the

01:12:43United States.

01:12:45And I think the American people want better than that.

01:12:50Want better than this.

01:12:52Want someone who understands, as I do, I travel our country.

01:12:57We see in each other a friend.

01:13:00We see in each other a neighbor.

01:13:02We don't want a leader who is constantly trying to have Americans point their fingers at each

01:13:08other.

01:13:09I meet with people all the time who tell me, can we please just have discourse about how

01:13:17we're going to invest in the aspirations and the ambitions and the dreams of the American

01:13:22people, knowing that regardless of people's color or the language their grandmother speaks,

01:13:28we all have the same dreams and aspirations and want a president who invests in those,

01:13:33not in hate and division.

01:13:35Vice President Harris.

01:13:37Lindsey.

01:13:38President Trump, this is now your third time.

01:13:41This is the most divisive presidency in the history of our country.

01:13:46There's never been anything like it.

01:13:47They're destroying our country.

01:13:50And they come up with things like what she just said.

01:13:54Looking back many, many years, when a lot of people, including Mayor Bloomberg, agreed

01:13:58with me on the Central Park five, they admitted, they said they pled guilty.

01:14:03And I said, well, if they pled guilty, they badly hurt a person, killed a person, ultimately.

01:14:09And if they pled guilty, then they pled were not guilty.

01:14:12But this is a person that has to stretch back years, 40, 50 years ago, because there's nothing

01:14:19now.

01:14:20I built one of the greatest economies in the history of the world.

01:14:24And I'm going to build it again.

01:14:25It's going to be bigger, better and stronger.

01:14:27But they're destroying our economy.

01:14:29They have no idea what a good economy is.

01:14:32Their oil policies, every single policy.

01:14:35And remember this.

01:14:36She is Biden.

01:14:37You know, she's trying to get away from Biden.

01:14:39I don't know the gentleman.

01:14:40She says she is Biden.

01:14:42The worst inflation we've ever had.

01:14:45A horrible economy because inflation has made it so bad that you can't get away with that.

01:14:52Your time is up.

01:14:54Briefly, clearly, I am not Joe Biden.

01:14:59And I am certainly not Donald Trump.

01:15:02And what I do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country, one who believes

01:15:08in what is possible, one who brings a sense of optimism about what we can do instead of

01:15:14always disparaging the American people.

01:15:18I believe in what we can do to strengthen our small businesses, which is why I have

01:15:24a plan.

01:15:25Let's talk about our plans and let's compare the plans.

01:15:30I have a plan to give startup businesses $50,000 tax deduction to pursue their ambitions, their

01:15:39innovation, their ideas, their hard work.

01:15:42I have a plan, $6,000 for young families for the first year of your child's life to

01:15:49help you in that most critical stage of your child's development.

01:15:52I have a plan that is about allowing people to be able to pursue what has been fleeting

01:15:59in terms of the American dream by offering a help with down payment of $25,000 down payment

01:16:05assistance for first time home buyers.

01:16:09That's the kind of conversation I believe, David, that people really want tonight as

01:16:13opposed to a conversation that is constantly about belittling and name calling.

01:16:20Let's turn the page vice president Harris.

01:16:24Let's turn to policy.

01:16:25Let's turn to move on.

01:16:26President Trump.

01:16:27Let's turn to policy.

01:16:28Please plan to defund the police.

01:16:30She has a flat plan to confiscate everybody's gun.

01:16:34She has a plan to not allow fracking in Pennsylvania or anywhere else.

01:16:39That's what her plan is until just recently.

01:16:41The former president has said something twice that I need to respond to.

01:16:46I just need to respond one time to what he has said multiple times.

01:16:49President Trump, this is now your third time running for president.

01:16:52You have long vowed to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare.

01:16:58You have failed to accomplish that.

01:16:59You now say you're going to keep Obamacare, quote, unless we can do something much better.

01:17:05Last month, you said, quote, we're working on it.

01:17:07So tonight, nine years after you first started running, do you have a plan and can you tell

01:17:12us what it is?

01:17:13Obamacare was lousy health care, always was.

01:17:16It's not very good today.

01:17:18And what I said that if we come up with something and we are working on things, we're going

01:17:22to do it and we're going to replace it.

01:17:23But remember this, I inherited Obamacare because Democrats wouldn't change it.

01:17:29They wouldn't vote for it.

01:17:30They were unanimous.

01:17:31They wouldn't vote to change it.

01:17:33If they would have done that, we would have had a much better plan than Obamacare.

01:17:37But the Democrats came up.

01:17:38They wouldn't vote for it.

01:17:40I had a choice to make when I was president.

01:17:42Do I save it and make it as good as it can be?

01:17:45Never going to be great.

01:17:46Or do I let it rot?

01:17:49And I felt I had an obligation, even though politically it would have been good to just

01:17:52let it rot and let it go away.

01:17:55I decided and I told my people, the top people and they're very good people.

01:17:58I have a lot of good people in this that administration.

01:18:02We read about the bad ones.

01:18:03We had some real bad ones, too.

01:18:04And so do they.

01:18:05They have a really bad ones.

01:18:06The difference is they don't get rid of them.

01:18:07But let me just explain.

01:18:09I had a choice to make.

01:18:10Do I save it and make it as good as it can be?

01:18:14Or do I let it rot?

01:18:15And I saved it.

01:18:16I did the right thing.

01:18:18But it's still never going to be great.

01:18:20And it's too expensive for people.

01:18:23And what we will do is we're looking at different plans.

01:18:26If we can come up with a plan that's going to cost our people, our population less money

01:18:32and be better health care than Obamacare, then I would absolutely do it.

01:18:36But until then, I'd run it as good as it can be run.

01:18:40So just a yes or no, you still do not have a plan.

01:18:42I have concepts of a plan.

01:18:44I'm not president right now.

01:18:46But if we come up with something, I would only change it if we come up with something

01:18:51that's better and less expensive.

01:18:53And there are concepts and options we have to do that.

01:18:58And you'll be hearing about it in the not too distant future.

01:19:01Vice President Harris, in 2017, you supported Bernie Sanders' proposal to do away with

01:19:05private insurance and create a government-run health care system.

01:19:08Two years later, you proposed a plan that included a private insurance option.

01:19:12What is your plan today?

01:19:13Well, first of all, I absolutely support, and over the last four years as vice president,

01:19:19private health care options.

01:19:20But what we need to do is maintain and grow the Affordable Care Act.

01:19:23But I'll get to that, Lindsay.

01:19:25I just need to respond to a previous point that the former president has made.

01:19:29I've made very clear my position on fracking and then this business about taking everyone's

01:19:33guns away.

01:19:34Tim Walz and I are both gun owners.

01:19:36We're not taking anybody's guns away.

01:19:37So stop with the continuous lying about this stuff.

01:19:41As it relates to the Affordable Care Act, understand, just look at the history to know

01:19:45where people stand.

01:19:46When Donald Trump was president, 60 times he tried to get rid of the Affordable Care

01:19:51Act.

01:19:52Sixty times.

01:19:53When I was a senator at the time, when I will never forget the early morning hours

01:19:59when it was up for a vote in the United States Senate, and the late, great John McCain, who

01:20:06you have disparaged as being, you don't like him, you said, at the time because he got

01:20:14caught.

01:20:15He was an American hero.

01:20:16The late, great John McCain, I will never forget that night, walked onto the Senate

01:20:20floor and said, no you don't.

01:20:23No you don't.

01:20:24No you don't get rid of the Affordable Care Act.

01:20:27You have no plan.

01:20:29And what the Affordable Care Act has done is eliminate the ability of insurance companies

01:20:33to deny people with pre-existing conditions.

01:20:36I don't have to tell the people watching tonight, you remember what that was like?

01:20:40Remember when an insurance company could deny if a child had asthma, if someone was a breast

01:20:46cancer survivor, if a grandparent had diabetes?

01:20:50And thankfully, as I've been Vice President and we over the last four years have strengthened

01:20:55the Affordable Care Act, we have allowed for the first time Medicare to negotiate drug

01:21:00prices on behalf of you, the American people.

01:21:03Donald Trump said he was going to allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices.

01:21:07He never did.

01:21:08We did.

01:21:09And now we have capped the cost of insulin at $35 a month.

01:21:11Since I've been Vice President, we have capped the cost of prescription medication for seniors

01:21:15at $2,000 a year.

01:21:17And when I am President, we will do that for all people, understanding that the value I

01:21:22bring to this is that access to health care should be a right and not just a privilege

01:21:29of those who can afford it.

01:21:31And the plan has to be to strengthen the Affordable Care Act, not get rid of it, fast as prologue

01:21:38in terms of where Donald Trump stands on that.

01:21:40I want to move to an issue that's important for a lot of people.

01:21:42Made a mistake at number one.

01:21:45John McCain fought Obamacare for 10 years, but it wasn't only him.

01:21:50It were all of the Democrats that kept it going.

01:21:53And you know what?

01:21:55We could do much better than Obamacare, much less money.

01:21:58But she won't improve private insurance for people, private medical insurance.

01:22:04That's another thing she doesn't want to get.

01:22:06People are paying privately for insurance that have worked hard and made money and they

01:22:11want to have private.

01:22:12She wants everybody to be on government insurance where you wait six months for an operation

01:22:17that you need immediately.

01:22:18President Trump, thank you.

01:22:19We have another issue that we'd like to get to that's important for a number of Americans,

01:22:23in particular younger voters, and that's climate change.

01:22:26President Trump, with regard to the environment, you say that we have to have clean air and

01:22:30clean water.

01:22:31Vice President Harris, you call climate change an existential threat.

01:22:35The question to you both tonight is what would you do to fight climate change?

01:22:39And Vice President Harris, we'll start with you.

01:22:41One minute for you each.

01:22:42Well, the former president had said that climate change is a hoax.

01:22:47And what we know is that it is very real.

01:22:49You ask anyone who lives in a state who has experienced these extreme weather occurrences,

01:22:54who now is either being denied home insurance or is being jacked up, you ask anybody who

01:22:59has been the victim of what that means in terms of losing their home, having nowhere

01:23:05to go.

01:23:06We know that we can actually deal with this issue.

01:23:09The young people of America care deeply about this issue.

01:23:12And I am proud that as vice president over the last four years, we have invested a trillion

01:23:17dollars in a clean energy economy while we have also increased domestic gas production

01:23:24to historic levels.

01:23:25We have created over 800,000 new manufacturing jobs while I have been vice president.

01:23:30We have invested in clean energy to the point that we are opening up factories around the

01:23:36world.

01:23:37Donald Trump said he was going to create manufacturing jobs.

01:23:39He lost manufacturing jobs.

01:23:41And I'm also proud to have the endorsement of the United Auto Workers and Sean Fane,

01:23:46who also know that part of building a clean energy economy includes investing in American

01:23:53made products, American automobiles.

01:23:56It includes growing what we can do around American manufacturing and opening up auto

01:24:03plants, not closing them like happened under Donald Trump, President Harris.

01:24:07It didn't happen under Donald Trump.

01:24:08Let me just tell you, they lost 10,000 manufacturing jobs this last month.

01:24:13It's going.

01:24:14They're all leaving.

01:24:15They're building big auto plants in Mexico, in many cases owned by China.

01:24:21They're building these massive plants and they think they're going to sell their cars

01:24:25into the United States because of these people.

01:24:28What they have given to China is unbelievable.

01:24:31But we're not going to let that.

01:24:32We'll put tariffs on those cars so they can't come into our country because they will kill

01:24:37the United Auto Workers and any auto worker, whether it's in Detroit or South Carolina

01:24:42or any other place.

01:24:43What they've done to business and manufacturing in this country is horrible.

01:24:49We have nothing because they refuse.

01:24:52You know, Biden doesn't go after people because supposedly China paid him millions of dollars.

01:24:57He's afraid to do it between him and his son.

01:24:59They get all this money from Ukraine.

01:25:01They get all this money from all of these different countries.

01:25:04And then you wonder, why is he so loyal to this one, that one, Ukraine, China?

01:25:09Why is he?

01:25:10Why did he get three and a half million dollars from the mayor of Moscow's wife?

01:25:14Why did he get why did she pay him three and a half million dollars?

01:25:18This is a crooked administration and they're selling our country down the tube.

01:25:23Welcome back tonight.

01:25:24The time has come for closing statements.

01:25:26And Vice President Harris, we begin with you.

01:25:30So I think you've heard tonight two very different visions for our country, one that is focused

01:25:36on the future and the other that is focused on the past and an attempt to take us backward.

01:25:44But we're not going back.

01:25:46And I do believe that the American people know we all have so much more in common than

01:25:50what separates us.

01:25:52And we can chart a new way forward.

01:25:55And a vision of that includes having a plan, understanding the aspirations, the dreams,

01:26:02the hopes, the ambition of the American people, which is why I intend to create an opportunity

01:26:09economy, investing in small businesses, in new families, in what we can do around protecting

01:26:16seniors, what we can do that is about giving hardworking folks a break and bringing down

01:26:22the cost of living.

01:26:23I believe in what we can do together that is about sustaining America's standing in

01:26:30the world and ensuring that we have the respect that we so rightly deserve, including respecting

01:26:36our military and ensuring we have the most lethal fighting force in the world.

01:26:41I will be a president that will protect our fundamental rights and freedoms, including

01:26:45the right of a woman to make decisions about her own body and not have her government tell

01:26:51her what to do.

01:26:52I'll tell you, I started my career as a prosecutor.

01:26:55I was a DA.

01:26:56I was an attorney general, a United States senator, and now vice president.

01:26:59I've only had one client, the people.

01:27:02And I'll tell you, as a prosecutor, I never asked a victim or a witness, are you a Republican

01:27:08or a Democrat?

01:27:10The only thing I ever asked them, are you OK?

01:27:14And that's the kind of president we need right now, someone who cares about you and is not

01:27:19putting themselves first.

01:27:21I intend to be a president for all Americans and focus on what we can do over the next

01:27:2710 and 20 years to build back up our country by investing right now in you, the American

01:27:34people.

01:27:35Vice President Harris, thank you.

01:27:37President Trump.

01:27:39So she just started by saying she's going to do this.

01:27:41She's going to do that.

01:27:42She's going to do all these wonderful things.

01:27:45Why hasn't she done it?

01:27:47She's been there for three and a half years.

01:27:49They've had three and a half years to fix the border.

01:27:52They've had three and a half years to create jobs and all the things we talked about.

01:27:58Why hasn't she done it?

01:28:00She should leave right now, go down to that beautiful White House, go to the Capitol,

01:28:05get everyone together and do the things you want to do.

01:28:07But you haven't done it and you won't do it because you believe in things that the

01:28:11American people don't believe in.

01:28:13You believe in things like we're not going to frack.

01:28:16We're not going to take fossil fuel.

01:28:18We're not going to do things that are going to make this country strong, whether you like

01:28:22it or not.

01:28:23Germany tried that.

01:28:24And within one year, they were back to building normal energy plants.

01:28:30We're not ready for it.

01:28:31We can't sacrifice our country for the sake of bad vision.

01:28:36But I just ask one simple question.

01:28:38Why didn't she do it?

01:28:40We're a failing nation.

01:28:42We're a nation that's in serious decline.

01:28:45We're being laughed at all over the world, all over the world.

01:28:48They left.

01:28:49I know the leaders very well.

01:28:50They're coming to see me.

01:28:51They call me.

01:28:53We're laughed at all over the world.

01:28:54They don't understand what happened to us as a nation.

01:28:57We're not a leader.

01:28:58We don't have any idea what's going on.

01:29:01We have wars going on in the Middle East.

01:29:03We have wars going on with Russia and Ukraine.

01:29:07We're going to end up in a third world war.

01:29:09And it'll be a war like no other because of nuclear weapons, the power of weaponry.

01:29:14I rebuilt our entire military.

01:29:17She gave a lot of it away to the Taliban.

01:29:21She gave it to Afghanistan.

01:29:23What these people have done to our country, and maybe toughest of all, is allowing millions

01:29:28of people to come into our country.

01:29:31Many of them are criminals.

01:29:32And they're destroying our country.

01:29:34The worst president, the worst vice president in the history of our country.

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