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00:00Daniel Craig, l'autore dei costumi Jonathan Anderson.
00:10Daniel and Drew, I think there was a part of the question was for you two.
00:17What was the question again?
00:20The question was about the erotic scene and the intimacy.
00:26How did you reach this level of intimacy?
00:33There's some choreography in the movie, which is a very important part of the movie.
00:39Drew and I started rehearsals on that months before we started filming, which is dancing
00:45with someone is a great icebreaker.
00:48So we approached the scenes, you know as well as I do, there's nothing intimate about filming
00:57a sex scene on a movie set.
00:59There's a room full of people watching you, so it's like, it's not, we just wanted to
01:04make it as touching and as real and as, you know, as natural as we possibly could.
01:13And I just, you know, Drew's a wonderful, fantastic, beautiful actor to work with and
01:19we just, we kind of had a laugh, you know, we tried to make it fun.
01:29Which is such a singular experience as an actor, you know, I've never had an experience
01:34like this to really dive into one moment in a story and explore every avenue possible.
01:43So yeah, but collaborating with, I mean I'm not a dancer, Daniel's definitely not a dancer.
01:52But I think we learned, I think we got better together, so.
01:55We found our limits.
01:56Yes, limits.
01:57Daniel, do you want to add something to the question?
02:04Yeah, I mean it's, the whole, you know, the trip at the end, the third act, you know it's
02:11so important to the film, it doesn't happen in the book, it's something that Luca decided
02:16to put in because we needed it, we needed to see them connect.
02:24We were talking about-
02:25Collaborate together and suddenly you find you've created this character.
02:30Hello, Helen Barlow from Australia, hi.
02:33I don't think we've had the obvious question, why did you cast Daniel Craig, who was once
02:39James Bond, and why, did you have any second thoughts about it, Daniel?
02:45About playing this role, given that you are quite a superstar, and, well, whatever.
02:52And do you think there could be a gay James Bond?
02:58Guys, let's be adult in the room for a second.
03:06There is no way around the fact that nobody would ever know James Bond desires, period.
03:14Having said that, now, the important thing is that he does his missions properly.
03:29Having said that, darling, I adore you.
03:37I have been an admirer of this gentleman for a long time, despite he looks and he is pristine,
03:45and I had this intuition that I suffocated within me because, you know, like I'm pragmatic,
03:51like you have to make movies, you cannot daydream.
03:54A gentleman that is in the room was really the one that was not pragmatic and said to
03:58me, what about Daniel Craig?
03:59And I said, I thought about it, but he's never going to say yes.
04:02And he said to me, let's ask.
04:05And he said yes.
04:06And the yes was a definitive yes.
04:10He's one of the greatest actors.
04:12It's a privilege to work with someone like him.
04:15And for me, one of the great characteristics of the great actors that you love, that you
04:20want to see on screen and you are affected by, I would say, is the generosity of approach.
04:28The capacity of being very immortal on screen.
04:37And very few are, and very few iconic legendary actors allow that fragility to be seen.
04:45And that's one of them is Daniel, for sure.
04:48Daniel, no, I just want to follow up on Lucas, because beside the allure of working with
04:58him and all these other wonderful, talented people, what is it about Lee that you were
05:02interested into exploring?
05:04Well, first off, the reason I did the movie is because of this great man here.
05:10I mean, it was when I'd wanted to work with him for a long time.
05:14We met 20 years ago and said, maybe we should work together.
05:17And we finally did, which is just a wonderful thing.
05:23I kind of look at this movie and I think, if I wasn't in the movie and I saw this movie,
05:28I'd want to be in it, if that makes sense.
05:31It's just, it's the kind of films I want to see, I want to make, I want to be out there.
05:37They're challenging, but they're hopefully incredibly accessible because they're movies.
05:43I mean, they're movies as I understand them.
05:50So the challenge of playing Lee was just talking and just, we just talked and all of
05:59us.
06:00One of Lucas' incredible talents is he just wants to hear everybody's opinion.
06:03I mean, he has a very strong opinion, don't get me wrong.
06:07But he wants to hear everybody's opinion because it's really important to him to hear other
06:11people's voices about what it is.
06:12And it's so freeing because you're not kind of like on track, you're just like, okay,
06:18maybe this, maybe this, maybe this.
06:20So I don't look back as a challenge, just as a joy.
06:26I want to add something, a very queer thing to do.
06:29Yeah.
06:30For example, for Mr. Craig, maybe not everybody will get this, but I saw traces of Geordie
06:36Peacock in Lee, which I thought was very strange also.
06:40But just in terms of how you center these characters, like what did you see in them
06:46that was appealing to you and that you wanted to put out there, especially relative to Mr.
06:52Burroughs' life, which was deeply tragic and deeply complicated?
06:57The research that I did, I watched a lot of William Burroughs being interviewed.
07:09He had this persona, I can only describe it as a persona, very kind of deep and measured.
07:18And I thought, that can't be him, or if it is, it's a part of him.
07:23It's something that may be a defense, maybe it's something.
07:26And I think that when I thought about that, and I read Queer and we talked, I thought,
07:33we've got to try and find the other person.
07:35There's very little knowledge of that, there's very little kind of talk of it.
07:38That really was the thing that I kind of wanted to try and key into.
07:43Because having read Junkie, which is sort of very dry and just sort of like a kind of,
07:48this is this and this is this, Queer is this emotional just thump about, it's a tiny book,
07:56but it's this emotional thump.
07:58And it is about love, but it's about loss, it's about loneliness, it's about yearning,
08:04it's about all of these things.
08:07I mean, God, I mean, if I was writing myself apart and trying to tick off things that I
08:11wanted to do, this would fulfill all of them.
08:16Taking us in an internal process through this couple.
08:21It is, this is love.
08:23It's a couple, it's only love.
08:25And through love, bringing the characters to that trip around South America and Mexico.
08:33But it's an internal trip, an internal trip maybe to try to find himself.
08:39Do you think it could be possible that the public or the people projecting themselves
08:47and say that internal trip, not lying to ourselves, not cheating to ourselves?
08:54Do you think that could be part of the public when we see it?
08:58Because that was at least what I thought.
09:01And to Daniel, how did you feel that sadness?
09:07It was a role, but you project that sadness in that trip.
09:14How did you feel through this character?
09:19Because it touched, really.
09:24I don't know if there's any one thing I did.
09:26I just felt like all you can do is you can just absorb everything you can.
09:35And then on the day, a great director, you figure it out.
09:39And so if you saw it, that's wonderful.
09:44I mean, there was no, hopefully there's no effort to do it.
09:50It's just, it was happening.
09:51And that's what hopefully you saw.
09:54I'm really sorry.
09:55They just came to tell me we ran way out of time.
09:59Thank you, everyone.
10:00Daniel Craig.
10:07Jonathan Anderson.
10:10Daniel and Drew, I think there was a part of the question was for you two.
10:15What was the question again?
10:18The question was about the erotic scene and the intimacy.
10:24How did you reach this level of intimacy?
10:31There's some choreography in the movie, which is a very important part of the movie.
10:37Drew and I started rehearsals on that months before we started filming,
10:42which is dancing with someone is a great icebreaker.
10:46And we approached the scenes, you know as well as I do,
10:54there's nothing intimate about filming a sex scene on a movie set.
10:58There's a room full of people watching you.
10:59So it's like, it's not, we just wanted to make it as touching and as real and as,
11:09you know, as natural as we possibly could.
11:11And I just, you know, Drew's a wonderful, fantastic, beautiful actor to work with.
11:17And we just, we kind of had a laugh, you know, we tried to make it fun.
11:27Which is such a singular experience as an actor.
11:29I know I've never had an experience like this to really dive into
11:35one moment in a story and explore every avenue possible.
11:39So, yeah, but collaborating with, I mean, I'm not a dancer.
11:43Daniel's definitely not a dancer.
11:49But I think we learned, I think we got better together.
11:51We found our limits.
11:52Yes, limits.
11:56Daniel, do you want to add something to the question?
12:01Yeah, I mean, it's the whole, you know, the trip at the end,
12:06you know, the trip at the end, the third act, you know, it's so important to the film.
12:11It doesn't happen in the book.
12:12It's something that Luca decided to put in because we needed it.
12:19We needed to see them connect.
12:22We were talking about...
12:23Collaborate together and suddenly you find you've created this character.
12:28Hello, Helen Barlow from Australia.
12:30Hi.
12:31I don't think we've had the obvious question.
12:34Why did you cast Daniel Craig, who was once James Bond?
12:40Did you have any second thoughts about it, Daniel,
12:43about playing this role, given that you are quite a superstar?
12:49Well, whatever.
12:50And do you think there could be a gay James Bond?
12:58Guys, let's be adult in the room for a second.
13:04There is no way around the fact that nobody would ever know James Bond desires, period.
13:12Having said that...
13:15Now...
13:24The important thing is that he does his missions properly.
13:27Having said that...
13:28I have been an admirer of this gentleman for a long time,
13:35despite he looks and he's pristine.
13:38And I had this intuition that I suffocated within me
13:42because, you know, like I'm pragmatic.
13:44Like you have to make movies.
13:45You cannot daydream.
13:47A gentleman that is in the room was really the one that was not pragmatic
13:51and said to me, what about Daniel Craig?
13:52And I said, I told him, I'm not going to make movies.
13:54I'm not going to make movies.
13:55I'm not going to make movies.
13:57What about Daniel Craig?
13:58And I said, I thought about it, but he's never going to say yes.
14:00And he said to me, let's ask.
14:03And he said yes.
14:04And the yes was a definitive yes.
14:08He's one of the greatest actors.
14:10It's a privilege to work with someone like him.
14:12And for me, one of the great characteristics of the great actors that you love,
14:17that you want to see on screen and you are affected by,
14:21I would say is the generosity of approach.
14:26The capacity of being very immortal on screen.
14:35And very few are.
14:37And very few iconic legendary actors allow that fragility to be seen.
14:43And that's one of them is Daniel, for sure.
14:48Daniel.
14:51No, I just want to follow up on Lucas
14:54because beside the allure of working with him
14:56and all these other wonderful, talented people,
14:59what is about Lee that you were interested into exploring?
15:04Well, first off, the reason I did the movie is because of this great man here.
15:08I mean, it's like, I mean, it was when I wanted to work with him for a long time.
15:12We met 20 years ago and said maybe we should work together.
15:15And we finally did, which is just a wonderful thing.
15:22I kind of look at this movie and I think
15:24if I wasn't in the movie and I saw this movie, I'd want to be in it.
15:27Does that make sense?
15:30It's the kind of films I want to see.
15:32I want to make.
15:33I want to be out there.
15:35They're challenging, but they're hopefully incredibly accessible
15:39because they're movies.
15:41I mean, they're movies as I understand them.
15:47So the challenge of playing Lee was just talking.
15:54We just talked.
15:58One of Lucas' incredible talents is he just wants to hear everybody's opinion.
16:01I mean, he has a very strong opinion.
16:03Don't get me wrong.
16:05But he wants to hear everybody's opinion
16:06because it's really important to him to hear
16:09other people's voices about what it is.
16:10And it's so freeing because you're not kind of like on track.
16:15You're just like, OK, maybe this, maybe this, maybe this.
16:18So I don't look back as a challenge, just as a joy.
16:24I want to add something, a very queer thing to do.
16:29For example, for Mr. Craig, maybe not everybody will get this,
16:33but I saw traces of Geordie Peacock and Lee,
16:36which I thought was very strange also.
16:38But just in terms of how you center these characters,
16:42what did you see in them that was appealing to you
16:46and that you wanted to put out there,
16:48especially relative to Mr. Burroughs' life,
16:51which was deeply tragic and deeply complicated?
17:00There's a research that I did.
17:03I watched a lot of William Burroughs being interviewed.
17:07He had this persona.
17:09I can only describe it as a persona.
17:12It's very kind of deep and measured.
17:16And I thought, that can't be him.
17:19Or if it is, it's a part of him.
17:21It's something that may be a defense.
17:23Maybe it's something.
17:24And I think that when I thought about that,
17:28and I read Queer and we talked,
17:31I thought, we've got to try and find the other person.
17:33There's very little knowledge of that.
17:34There's very little kind of talk of it.
17:36And that really was the thing
17:38that I kind of wanted to try and key into.
17:41Because having read Junkie,
17:44which is sort of very dry
17:45and just like a kind of this is this and this is this,
17:48Queer is this emotional just thump in about,
17:53you know, like it's a tiny book,
17:54but it's just like an emotional thump.
17:56And it is about love, but it's about loss.
18:00It's about loneliness.
18:01It's about yearning.
18:03It's about all of these things.
18:04And I mean, God, I mean,
18:06if I was writing myself apart
18:08and trying to tick off things that I wanted to do,
18:10this would fulfill all of them.
18:13And taking us in an internal process
18:18through this couple, it is, this is love.
18:21It's a couple, this is only love.
18:23And through love,
18:25bringing the characters to that trip
18:29around South America and Mexico.
18:31But it's an internal trip,
18:33an internal trip, maybe to try to find himself.
18:38Do you think it could be possible
18:41that the public or the people projecting themselves
18:45and say that internal trip,
18:48not lying to ourselves, not cheating to ourselves.
18:52Do you think that could be part of the public
18:56when we see it?
18:57Because that was at least what I thought.
19:00And to Daniel, how did you feel that sadness,
19:05it was a role,
19:07but you project that sadness in that trip.
19:12How did you feel through this character?
19:17Because it touched, really.
19:22I don't know if there's any one thing I did.
19:24I just felt like,
19:29all you can do is you can just absorb everything you can.
19:34And then on the day,
19:35with a great director, you figure it out.
19:38And so if you saw it, that's wonderful.
19:46Hopefully there's no effort to do it.
19:48It's just, it was happening.
19:49And that's what hopefully you saw.
19:53I'm really sorry.
19:53They just came to tell me we ran way out of time.
19:57So thank you, everyone.
19:58Daniel Craig.
20:00L'autore dei Costumi, Jonathan Anderson.
20:04Daniel and Drew, I think there was a part of the question
20:06was for you to...
20:09What was the question again?
20:12The question was about the erotic scene and the intimacy.
20:18How did you reach this level of intimacy?
20:22We, the,
20:25there's some choreography in the movie,
20:27which is a very important part of the movie.
20:30Drew and I started rehearsals on that
20:33months before we started filming,
20:36which is dancing with someone is a great icebreaker.
20:40So, and we approached the scenes,
20:46you know, you know as well as I do,
20:47there's nothing intimate about filming a sex scene.
20:50It's just, it's a great,
20:51you know, as well as I do,
20:52there's nothing intimate about filming a sex scene
20:54on a movie set.
20:56There's a room full of people watching you.
20:58So it's like, it's not, we just wanted to make it
21:03as touching and as real and as,
21:07you know, as natural as we possibly could.
21:09And I just, you know, Drew is a wonderful,
21:13fantastic, beautiful actor to work with.
21:15And we just, we kind of had a laugh,
21:19you know, we tried to make it fun.
21:21Yeah.
21:25Which is such a singular experience as an actor.
21:27You know, I've never had an experience like this
21:31to really dive into one moment in a story
21:35and explore every avenue possible.
21:39So yeah, but collaborating with,
21:41I mean, I'm not a dancer.
21:43Daniel's definitely not a dancer.
21:49But I think we learned,
21:50I think we got better together, so.
21:51We found our limits.
21:53Yes, limits.
21:56Daniel, do you want to add something to the question?
22:01Yeah, I mean, it's the whole, you know,
22:05the trip at the end, the third act,
22:07you know, it's so important to the film.
22:09It doesn't happen in the book.
22:10It's something that Luca decided to put in
22:16because we needed it.
22:18We needed to see them connect.
22:21We were talking about...
22:21Collaborate together and suddenly you find
22:24you've created this character.
22:26Hello, Helen Barlow from Australia.
22:28Hi.
22:29I don't think we've had the obvious question.
22:32Why did you cast Daniel Craig, who was once James Bond?
22:37And why, did you have any second thoughts about it, Daniel?
22:41About playing this role,
22:43given that you are quite a superstar?
22:46And, well, whatever.
22:49And do you think there could be a gay James Bond?
22:57Guys, let's be adult in the room for a second.
23:03There is no way around the fact
23:05that nobody would ever know James Bond desires, period.
23:10Having said that...
23:12Now...
23:20The important thing is that he does his missions properly.
23:23Having said that...
23:28I have been an admirer of this gentleman for a long time,
23:35despite he looks and he is pristine.
23:37For a long time, despite he looks and he is pristine.
23:42And I had this intuition that I suffocated within me
23:46because, you know, like I'm pragmatic,
23:47like you have to make movies, you cannot daydream.
23:51The gentleman that is in the room
23:52was really the one that was not pragmatic
23:54and said to me, what about Daniel Craig?
23:56And I said, I thought about it, but he's never gonna say yes.
23:58And he said to me, let's ask.
24:01And he said yes.
24:02And the yes was a definitive yes.
24:06He's one of the greatest actors.
24:07It's a privilege to work with someone like him.
24:10And for me, one of the great characteristics
24:13of the great actors that you love,
24:15that you want to see on screen and you are affected by,
24:19I would say is the generosity of approach.
24:24The capacity of being very...
24:31Immortal on screen.
24:32And very few are, and very few iconic legendary actor
24:37allow that fragility to be seen.
24:40And that's one of them is Daniel, for sure.
24:45Daniel.
24:46Oh God.
24:47Okay, no, I just wanna follow up on Lucas
24:51because beside the allure of working with him
24:53and all these other wonderful, talented people,
24:56what is about Lee that you were interested into exploring?
25:03Well, first off, the reason I did the movie
25:05is because of this great man here.
25:06I mean, it was when I'd wanted to work with him for a long time.
25:10We met 20 years ago and said, maybe we should work together.
25:14And we finally did, which is just a wonderful thing.
25:20I kind of look at this movie and I think
25:22if I wasn't in the movie and I saw this movie,
25:24I'd want to be in it.
25:26Does that make sense?
25:27It's just, it's the kind of films I want to see,
25:30I want to make, I want to be out there.
25:33They're challenging, but they're hopefully incredibly accessible
25:37because they're movies.
25:40I mean, they're movies as I understand them.
25:46So the challenge of playing Lee was just talking.
25:53We just talked.
25:53And all of us, one of Lucas' incredible talents
25:58is he just wants to hear everybody's opinion.
26:00He has a very strong opinion, don't get me wrong.
26:03But he wants to hear everybody's opinion
26:05because it's really important to him
26:06to hear other people's voices about what it is.
26:09And it's so freeing because you're not on track.
26:14You're just like, OK, maybe this, maybe this, maybe this.
26:16So I don't look back as a challenge, just as a joy.
26:22I want to add something, a very queer thing to do.
26:25One, yeah.
26:28For example, for Mr. Craig, maybe not everybody will get this,
26:31but I saw traces of Geordie Peacock in Lee,
26:34which I thought was very strange also.
26:37But just in terms of how you center these characters,
26:40like what did you see in them that was appealing to you
26:44and that you wanted to put out there,
26:46especially relative to Mr. Burroughs' life,
26:49which was deeply tragic and deeply complicated?
26:56There's a research that I did.
27:01I watched a lot of William Burroughs being interviewed.
27:05He had this persona, I can only describe it as a persona,
27:10which is very kind of deep and measured.
27:14And I thought, that can't be him.
27:17Or if it is, it's a part of him.
27:19It's something that may be a defense.
27:21Maybe it's something.
27:23And I think that when I thought about that,
27:26and I read Queer and we talked,
27:29I thought, we've got to try and find the other person.
27:31There's very little knowledge of that.
27:33There's very little kind of talk of it.
27:34And that really was the thing
27:37that I kind of wanted to try and key into.
27:40Because having read Junkie, which is sort of very dry
27:44and just like a kind of this is this and this is this,
27:46Queer is this emotional just thump in about,
27:51you know, like it's a tiny book,
27:53but it's just like emotional.
27:54And it is about love, but it's about loss.
27:59It's about loneliness.
28:00It's about yearning.
28:01It's about all of these things.
28:02And I mean, God, I mean, if I was writing myself apart
28:06and trying to tick off things that I wanted to do,
28:08this would fulfill all of them.
28:11Taking us in an internal process through this couple.
28:18It is love.
28:20It's a couple.
28:20It's only love.
28:21And through love, bringing the characters to that trip
28:27around South America and Mexico.
28:29But it's an internal trip.
28:32An internal trip, maybe to try to find himself.
28:36Do you think it could be possible that the public
28:40or the people projecting themselves and say
28:44that internal trip, not lying to ourselves,
28:48not cheating to ourselves.
28:51Do you think that could be part of the public
28:54when we see it?
28:55Because that was at least what I thought.
28:58And to Daniel, how did you feel that sadness,
29:03it was a role, but you project that sadness in that trip.
29:11How did you feel through this character?
29:15Because it touched, really.
29:20I don't know if there's any one thing I did.
29:22I just felt like all you can do is you can just
29:30absorb everything you can.
29:32And then on the day, a great director, you figure it out.
29:36And so if you saw it, that's wonderful.
29:43There was no, hopefully there's no effort to do it.
29:46It's just, it was happening.
29:47And that's what hopefully you saw.
29:51I'm really sorry.
29:52They just came to tell me we ran way out of time.
29:55So thank you, everyone.
29:57Daniel Craig.
29:58L'autore dei Costumi, Jonathan Anderson.
30:02Daniel and Drew, I think there was a part of the question
30:04was for you two.
30:08What was the question again?
30:10The question was about the erotic scene and the intimacy.
30:16How did you reach this level of intimacy?
30:19There's some choreography in the movie,
30:22which is a very important part of the movie.
30:26Drew and I started rehearsals on that
30:28months before we started filming.
30:31Which is, dancing with someone is a great icebreaker.
30:35So, and we approached the scenes,
30:41the scenes, the scenes,
30:43the scenes, the scenes,
30:44the scenes, the scenes,
30:45the scenes, the scenes,
30:46the scenes, the scenes,
30:47the scenes, you know, you know as well as I do,
30:51there's nothing intimate about filming a sex scene on a movie set.
30:54There's a room full of people watching you.
30:56So it's like, it's not,
30:58we just wanted to make it as touching and as real
31:03and as, you know, as natural as we possibly could.
31:08And I just, you know, Drew's a wonderful,
31:11fantastic, beautiful actor to work with.
31:14And we just, we kind of had a laugh.
31:17You know, we tried to make it fun.
31:23Yeah, which is such a singular experience as an actor.
31:25You know, I've never had an experience like this
31:29to really dive into one moment in a story
31:33and explore every avenue possible.
31:37So yeah, but collaborating with,
31:40I mean, I'm not a dancer.
31:42Daniel's definitely not a dancer.
31:47But I think we learned.
31:48I think we got better together, so.
31:50We found our limits.
31:52Yes, limits.
31:55Daniel, do you want to add something to the question?
31:59Yeah, I mean, it's the whole, you know,
32:03the trip at the end, the third act,
32:05you know, it's so important to the film.
32:07It doesn't happen in the book.
32:09It's something that Luca decided to put in
32:14because we needed it.
32:16We needed to see them connect.
32:19We were talking about-
32:20Collaborate together and suddenly you find
32:23you've created this character.
32:25Hello, Helen Barlow from Australia.
32:26Hi, I don't think we've had the obvious question.
32:31Why did you cast Daniel Craig, who was once James Bond?
32:35And why, did you have any second thoughts about it, Daniel?
32:39About playing this role,
32:41given that you are quite a superstar?
32:44And, well, whatever.
32:47And do you think there could be a gay James Bond?
32:55Guys, let's be adult in the room for a second.
33:01There is no way around the fact
33:03that nobody would ever know James Bond desires.
33:07Period.
33:08Having said that.
33:10Now.
33:19The important thing is that he does his missions properly.
33:22Having said that.
33:27I have been an admirer of this gentleman for a long time,
33:34despite he looks and he is pristine.
33:36And I had this intuition that I suffocated within me
33:40because, you know, like I'm pragmatic.
33:42Like you have to make movies.
33:43You cannot daydream.
33:45The gentleman that is in the room
33:47was really the one that was not pragmatic
33:49and said to me, what about Daniel Craig?
33:50And I said, I thought about it,
33:51but he's never going to say yes.
33:53And he said to me, let's ask.
33:55And he said yes.
33:57And the yes was a definitive yes.
34:01He's one of the greatest actors.
34:03He's one of the greatest actors.
34:05He's one of the greatest actors.
34:06It's a privilege to work with someone like him.
34:09And for me, one of the great characteristics
34:12of the great actors that you love,
34:14that you want to see on screen and you are affected by,
34:18I would say is the generosity of approach.
34:22The capacity of being very immortal on screen.
34:32And very few are.
34:33And very few iconic legendary actors
34:36allow that fragility to be seen.
34:39And that's one of them is Daniel, for sure.
34:44Daniel.
34:48No, I just want to follow up on Lucas
34:51because beside the allure of working with him
34:53and all these other wonderful, talented people,
34:55what is about Lee that you were interested into exploring?
35:01Well, first off, the reason I did the movie
35:03is because of this great man here.
35:04I mean, it's like, I mean, it was when I'd wanted
35:07to work with him for a long time.
35:09We met 20 years ago and said, maybe we should work together.
35:12And we finally did, which is just a wonderful thing.
35:18I kind of look at this movie and I think
35:20if I wasn't in the movie and I saw this movie,
35:22I'd want to be in it.
35:24Does that make sense?
35:25It's just, it's the kind of films I want to see.
35:29I want to make.
35:29I want to be out there.
35:32They're challenging, but they're, hopefully,
35:34incredibly accessible because they're movies.
35:38I mean, they're movies as I understand them.
35:44So the challenge of playing Lee was just talking.
35:50And just, we just talked.
35:52And all of us, one of Lucas' incredible talents
35:56is he just wants to hear everybody's opinion.
35:58I mean, he has a very strong opinion.
35:59Don't get me wrong.
36:00But he wants to hear everybody's opinion
36:03because it's really important to him
36:04to hear other people's voices about what it is.
36:07And it's so freeing because you're not on track.
36:12You're just like, OK, maybe this, maybe this, maybe this.
36:14So I don't look back as a challenge, just as a joy.
36:20I want to add something, a very queer thing to do.
36:26For example, for Mr. Craig, maybe not everybody
36:29will get this.
36:29But I saw traces of Geordie Peacock in Lee,
36:32which I thought was very strange also.
36:35But just in terms of how you center these characters,
36:38like what did you see in them that was appealing to you
36:43and that you wanted to put out there,
36:45especially relative to Mr. Burroughs' life,
36:47which was deeply tragic and deeply complicated?
36:51The research that I did, I watched
36:54a lot of William Burroughs being interviewed.
36:57And he had this persona.
37:00I can only describe it as a persona, which is very deep
37:04and measured.
37:07And I thought, that can't be him.
37:09Or if it is, it's a part of him.
37:11It's something that may be a defense.
37:13Maybe it's something that he's trying to do.
37:16And I thought, well, maybe it's a part of him.
37:18Maybe it's a defense.
37:19Maybe it's something.
37:21And I think that when I thought about that,
37:25and I read Queer, and we talked, I thought,
37:28we've got to try and find the other person.
37:30There's very little knowledge of that.
37:31There's very little talk of it.
37:33And that really was the thing that I wanted
37:36to try and key into.
37:38Because having read Junkie, which is very dry
37:42and just like, this is this, and this is this,
37:45Queer is this emotional just thump in about,
37:50you know, like it's a tiny book.
37:51But it's just like an emotional thump.
37:53And it is about love, but it's about loss.
37:57It's about loneliness.
37:58It's about yearning.
37:59It's about all of these things.
38:00And I mean, God, I mean, if I was writing myself apart
38:04and trying to tick off things that I wanted to do,
38:06this would fulfill all of them.
38:09And taking us in an internal process through this couple.
38:16It is, this is love.
38:18It's a couple, it's only love.
38:20And through love, bringing the characters to that trip
38:25around South America and Mexico.
38:27But it's an internal trip.
38:30An internal trip, maybe to try to find himself.
38:34Do you think it could be possible
38:37that the public or the people projecting themselves
38:42and say that internal trip, not lying to ourselves,
38:46not cheating to ourselves.
38:49Do you think that could be part of the public when we see it?
38:53Because that was at least what I thought.
38:56And to Daniel, how did you feel that sadness, it was a role,
39:03but you project that sadness in that trip.
39:09How did you feel through this character?
39:14Because it touched, really.
39:19I don't know if there's any one thing I did.
39:21I just felt like all you can do is you can just
39:29absorb everything you can.
39:30And then on the day, a great director, you figure it out.
39:34And so if you saw it, that's wonderful.
39:39I mean, it's like, and there was no,
39:43hopefully there's no effort to do it.
39:44It's just, it was happening.
39:46And that's what hopefully you saw.
39:49I'm really sorry.
39:50They just came to tell me we ran way out of time.
39:53So thank you everyone.