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00:00What's up everybody, it's been a crazy Monday.
00:08I'm tired.
00:09I'm tired.
00:10I've been acting very petty today.
00:13Oh, how are you?
00:15Good.
00:16How are you?
00:17I'm good.
00:18What's the temperature like where you are?
00:19Because I have people that are on the west coast that it's really, really hot outside.
00:23It has been really, really hot.
00:24It was 90 yesterday.
00:25Today it's 77.
00:26Well, it's 77 right now.
00:28Okay.
00:29Yeah.
00:30So it's hot for you too.
00:31Because I guess in California, it's been like over a hundred degrees, which I think is insane.
00:35Right?
00:36It was like 98 the day before yesterday and then 90 yesterday.
00:40Oh, you're hotter than us.
00:42But it's supposed to be 80 degrees tomorrow and then the next day it's only supposed to
00:47be 58 and rainy.
00:48So, welcome to Oregon.
00:49That's crazy.
00:50I mean, it's just 90 every day here.
00:55Well, we're on fire again.
00:57There's like 18 new fires.
00:59Oh, that's not good.
01:01Heat and fire don't mix.
01:03I've learned that.
01:04Heat and fire are the worst.
01:05We're supposed to get rain, so that's good.
01:07We're just hoping there's no lightning with it.
01:10Yeah.
01:11We had nothing but thunder, lightning, and rain all day today.
01:14Knock on wood.
01:15Hopefully.
01:16My internet isn't affected yet.
01:18Oh no.
01:19I was stressed all day, but we're good.
01:22So, I want to talk about this episode 11, The Other Way.
01:26We got a beginning scene with Sarper and Shekinah.
01:29And I mean, I did like that Shekinah was stern and she wanted to let him know that it wasn't
01:37okay.
01:38But one thing that triggered me, right?
01:39Like, I got a little triggered because he sat there like a little wounded bird, like
01:43a little sad puppy, and he wanted her to feel bad for him.
01:47And I was like, I'm still waiting for the apology.
01:51Because I was like, you ripped her hair out of her head.
01:54You took her phone away.
01:55You screamed at her.
01:56You acted like a complete psychopath.
01:59And then you got the audacity to sit here and he's like, you don't understand my pain.
02:04And I'm like, what pain?
02:06You literally attacked, you assaulted her.
02:09Like, technically, you should be in jail, right?
02:11She was nice enough to not have you thrown in jail because that's where you should be.
02:15And then you have the audacity to sit there and be like, do you know what it's like for
02:19me?
02:20I can't sleep.
02:21And I was like, this is such typical abusive men 101, where he can treat you like garbage,
02:27hit you, scream at you, make you feel unsafe, barricade you in the house, lock you away,
02:32take your phone away.
02:33But he's the wounded, sad puppy in this situation.
02:37And it just really got underneath my skin.
02:40Because I just don't like that form of manipulation where the women feel like, well, I can't be
02:46too mean or hard on him because I don't want to hurt him.
02:49And it's like, no, you need to teach this thing, not even a man, this thing a lesson
02:54that if you put your hands on me, you're going to see the inside of a jail cell.
02:59I don't care if you love me.
03:01I don't care if I love you.
03:02And it's like, it just triggered me.
03:04And I was like, here we go again, with this damn abuse on these shows.
03:09And I was like, when did this become the norm?
03:11Like, I've been watching since, you know, season one.
03:13And, you know, we saw people yell, we saw screaming, we used to see drinks thrown at
03:18people, you know, very minor stuff.
03:20But like, now we're seeing people physically attacking each other.
03:24And it's like, I'm not entertained.
03:26Like, I was so angry when he was sitting there not apologizing to her.
03:30I was literally screaming at my TV.
03:33Like, I wanted her to get up and leave.
03:35I was just so angry.
03:36Because I was like, just call the police and say, this man hit you and leave.
03:39Like, I'm so sick of this shit.
03:41Well, one thing he said, so he says, you don't even feel sorry for me.
03:45First of all, what a dumbass.
03:47Second of all, he says, I have to put my foot down because I don't want my daughter to be
03:54treated, blah, blah, blah.
03:56Well, your daughter's already seen you go through this abusive bullshit.
04:00I mean, while you shipped her off and left the country, but do you really care what your
04:07daughter sees?
04:08She's already seen the bullshit you're going through.
04:10But aside from that, you're teaching your daughter all about if you have body dysmorphia,
04:18you just have surgery and fix it and then have more surgery and more surgery.
04:22You can't talk about setting a good example for your daughter.
04:26When you're out there setting the shittiest example possible, and you're sending her off to
04:32boarding school.
04:33None of that makes sense.
04:35I mean, setting the example, I think that shit kind of failed in the example journey avenue.
04:41Like, that street has been under construction now.
04:44They just tore it down.
04:45Like, it's gone now.
04:46Like, setting an example, because she told us that she had already been in an abusive
04:50relationship before.
04:51And I think, oh, another thing that triggered me when she was talking about her past, she
04:56was like, he started touching me aggressively.
04:58And I was like, if you don't call hitting you and abusing you what it is, it just really
05:05pissed me off.
05:06But she was minimizing the last relationship abuse.
05:10She's like, he touched me aggressively.
05:12I was like, what does that mean?
05:13That just means he hit you.
05:15Stop minimizing this behavior.
05:18And she's minimizing it for the men, which is even more scary.
05:22It means that she thinks that it's okay.
05:24And I was like, if someone touches you aggressively, that's still called assault, and they still
05:28need to go to jail.
05:29You know, like the police don't say, well, did they hit you?
05:32Or did they just touch you aggressively?
05:34There's no difference.
05:35If you put your hand on somebody, and you shouldn't do that, you should be arrested.
05:39So it really bothers me, because she's so accepting of the behavior.
05:45She's normalized it.
05:47And she makes excuses for the men that do it.
05:50And I think that that's really scary.
05:51I'm scared for her, because she'll know that she's in a bad situation, but she won't leave.
05:56Because we know how this is going to turn out.
05:58We know that she brought him over here.
06:00And we know that men like that don't change.
06:04We know that you don't go from aggressive, violent behavior to being a nice, sad puppy
06:09or happy puppy.
06:10No, we know that it gradually gets worse and worse and worse.
06:14That behavior does not subside.
06:17It grows.
06:19And it's just scary, because if that's what he does when he's upset.
06:22And what really got me, somebody asked on Exit, like, well, why were they fighting?
06:27And I was like, I thought about it.
06:29He got upset because it was their same birthday.
06:32She bought him a present or two, and he forgot.
06:36So he wanted to not get caught for not purchasing her a present.
06:41And he wanted to go buy her a vanity, which she had already told him four times she didn't want.
06:46And then he assaulted her because of that.
06:48So can you imagine, you buy your fiance a present for his birthday.
06:53He doesn't get you one.
06:54So his reaction is to assault you.
06:56Like, what part of this sounds like a healthy relationship to anybody involved?
07:02Because I was like, when I had to explain it back to someone else, I was like, this sounds even more crazy.
07:07Because they were at dinner having a good time.
07:09He realized he forgot to buy her a present, just yells at her, and then rips her hair out of her head.
07:15Telling the story back, it made me even more angry.
07:18I was like, this makes me even more angry.
07:20The fact that she even met and talked to him after that, it's just, she really needs to work on her self-esteem.
07:26She needs to know her self-worth.
07:28She's worth so much more, and she doesn't even see it.
07:32She's beautiful.
07:33She could be gorgeous if she would leave her face alone.
07:37But she's a beautiful woman, and she does not deserve to be treated the way that she allows men to treat her.
07:42This man weighs her.
07:43When she eats, she wakes up the next morning, and he weighs her to make sure that she's not too fat.
07:48Like, I'm so triggered.
07:50Like, I don't know why TLC, they want to trigger me, but I was yelling at my team.
07:54I was like, I don't want to be triggered, but that's what they do.
07:56Sarpra and Sakaina, they trigger me.
07:59Absolutely.
08:00I'm so pissed off as soon as they enter the screen.
08:03I can feel my blood boiling before they start talking.
08:07I'm just instantly pissed.
08:09Just like when I see Angela.
08:11I get so angry.
08:13And the same way when we had Nicole and Mahmoud.
08:17It just angers me as soon as they get on the screen because I know what they're doing, what they're going through, and how we're just supporting it.
08:28This shit's ridiculous.
08:31You know how when somebody is messy, like I have friends, and when I see them coming to me, I'm like, here they come with that bullshit.
08:38That's when I see Sarpra and Sakaina, I'm like, see, here they come with that bullshit.
08:42I'm so close.
08:44But since they're making us watch it live, I can't always fast forward when I see them.
08:48So I'm like, I know they're about to come with this bullshit, and I know it's going to get on my nerves.
08:52So I'm like, so close.
08:53I remember I told you, with Ed and I don't remember who he was with.
08:57I skipped through their story.
08:59They just trigger me, and I don't want to be triggered.
09:01I want to be entertained.
09:02I don't want to be triggered.
09:04I feel like they're pushing me to that point where I just don't want to be a part of it.
09:08They can be in their toxic, abusive relationship.
09:10Just leave me out of it.
09:12I don't want to participate or support or condone whatever the hell they got going on, because it's just irritating me.
09:18Yeah, I agree.
09:19I feel the same.
09:21So Statler and Dempsey were crossing over to Europe, so they had to get on a boat.
09:27Now, you know how I feel about large bodies of water and boats.
09:31I was literally thinking about you as you said this.
09:34I thought, OK, I know for a fact George would go on this, and George hates water, but he
09:41would be a little bit bitch about it.
09:44The way that the boat was set up, the way you could drive on and you could stay inside
09:49and you don't need to look outside, and I think she said it was 30 minutes, I would do it.
09:53OK, I would do it.
09:55Statler said she thought it was 30 minutes, and Dempsey said it was actually 100 minutes,
10:00which was a lot of minutes.
10:02That's a lot for me.
10:04If I could go somewhere inside, like if there was a restaurant, if there was a casino, I
10:09think I saw slot machines.
10:11If there was something that I could do where I don't have to look outside, I could be OK.
10:16I ride the boats at Disney and Universal and all the theme parks.
10:20I ride the little ferry boats.
10:21I do all that stuff.
10:23So I can do the short distance.
10:24As long as I can see land, I won't freak out.
10:29If I can only see water all the way around me, I will flip out.
10:33I don't think I would have a massive panic attack the way that Statler did.
10:38OK, but on that note, when she's, OK, I have horrible anxiety, and when I have a panic
10:46attack, it's like emergency room worthy.
10:50So watching her say, I'm having a panic attack, bullshit.
10:55You're standing there being a little crybaby bitch, and that's it.
10:59You are not having a panic attack.
11:01You want your way.
11:02And if it was that traumatizing, you would not stand next to the rail.
11:09Well, that is true, right?
11:11Like I have anxiety, and I have had panic attacks, and it affected my breathing.
11:17I had to be, like I couldn't walk.
11:19I was like laying out on the ground, and I was like struggling to breathe with panic
11:22attacks.
11:23So I do know a panic attack is not something that you can really, the way that she said,
11:29oh, I'm just having a panic attack, leave me alone.
11:31A panic attack is almost, it's almost the ability.
11:34Like if you're driving, you have to pull over.
11:37You can't really do anything else.
11:39And for someone to say that they're really scared of water, for her to go out there and
11:43stand out and watch the boat, that's something that I would never do.
11:48You know, like I have, like I can't swim, and I'm scared of large bodies of water.
11:51So yeah, when I do get on the little ferry boats and stuff, I go inside in the belly
11:56part where you don't see out.
11:59And that's how I, I can feel the vibration.
12:01I know what's going on.
12:02Looking at it is not going to help me, right?
12:05Like I feel like for people who are scared of, like I have a friend that's scared of
12:10birds.
12:11So like whenever there's low flying birds.
12:13Yeah.
12:14And so whenever we're walking and there's birds, we just go under an enclosure, somewhere
12:18where you don't have to just be out.
12:20You don't expose yourself to it, right?
12:22Like exposure therapy is something you need to do with a trained professional.
12:25You don't just go and expose yourself to your deepest, darkest fear, and then just try to
12:30get through it.
12:31Like the way that she stood there and just looked at the water, I was like, see, that's
12:35not how I would handle that, you know?
12:38And I do think that Statler, what's the nicest way to say this?
12:44I think Statler is, I think she's like, victim mentality.
12:50Like, it's always like, you need to feel bad for me, and everything is about me, and you
12:55should cater to me.
12:56And again, I think this has to do with her being adopted.
13:00I think that when she felt rejected by her birth parents, and even though she has amazing
13:06parents, I've heard stories about how her parents took her in, taken amazing care of
13:09her, treat her like their own.
13:11It's still like a mental thing that she feels rejection, and I feel like she needs to always
13:17be the center of attention.
13:18Because growing up, she didn't have that love of her parents and that acceptance of her
13:24parents.
13:25And I think it has a lot to do with that.
13:26And I think that the way that she acts and she screams at other people, you know, you
13:33are too nice to all of them, Shibuye Russell.
13:35Well, yeah, I mean, Savani, I am a little nicer.
13:37I kind of like to give people the benefit of a doubt.
13:40You know, I do roast people every now and then, but I try to give people the benefit
13:44of a doubt.
13:45I don't, I like to have a logic to it.
13:48Like, I don't want to just go online and say Statler is a crazy, annoying person, and
13:52she should stop.
13:53I do like to try to analyze it and see if maybe there's a method or a reason for the
13:58madness, right?
14:00And I think Statler, she's got a lot going on mentally, physically, financially.
14:05Like, I think she took on a lot.
14:08And I think that her reaction, like, I didn't like the way she was screaming and yelling
14:13and being so nasty to Dempsey, right?
14:15Like, when somebody is in distress, it is a natural human reaction to try to comfort
14:20that person, right?
14:21Like, she was like, oh, you're unstable, you're uncomfortable.
14:25Let me try and make you feel more comfortable.
14:27And Statler's like, can you get out of my face?
14:29Can you get away from me?
14:30Do you have to be all of my, like, there's a, you can just say, hey, can I just have
14:34like five minutes alone?
14:35You don't have to just be nasty.
14:37And I think Statler, that's her go-to.
14:39She's just nasty when she's upset.
14:42But again, I think it's a defense mechanism.
14:44I don't think that she's just a nasty human being.
14:46I think that that's just how she gets.
14:49I think she's a nasty human being.
14:51Really?
14:53If I'm in the middle of a panic attack, I don't care who's trying to help me, who's
14:58being mean to me, what's being said around me.
15:01I don't, I can't argue with you.
15:04I'm in the middle of a panic attack.
15:07That literally feels like the life is being sucked out of my body.
15:12I don't know if I'm going to come out of it.
15:14I couldn't argue with someone and just sit there and say, well, you this and you that
15:18and blah, blah, blah.
15:21While I'm watching the very thing that put me in the position that I'm in.
15:27You're right, you're right, you're right.
15:29She is nasty.
15:31She started the trip by saying, when Statler was so upset and she's saying, it hurts my
15:39feelings that you don't trust me.
15:40She immediately says, I never said that.
15:43Yes, you did.
15:45Last episode, those are the words out of your damn mouth.
15:49You're forgetting that everything you say is being recorded and televised.
15:54You can't say you didn't say shit when it's on national TV.
15:58She's, she is, she's crazy.
16:02She said that about something about the van too.
16:07Because Dempsey was like, we did have a conversation about the titling of the van and all this.
16:13And, and, and Statler's like, I don't remember saying that that never happened.
16:16And she's like, well, that's upsetting.
16:18Because, and I think she does, she denies, if she doesn't like the outcome of something,
16:22she'll deny it.
16:23She'll be like, well, I didn't say that, even though she did, she just didn't think about
16:26it.
16:27And she said it and she prematurely gave an answer.
16:29And then when she doesn't like the outcome, she denies it.
16:32Like, she's like, oh, well, you're a liar and you're evil and you're a cheater and you're
16:36scamming me.
16:37And, you know, I feel like she's a self-sabotage too, because I'm not saying that her and Dempsey
16:41are like a match.
16:43I don't think that they are.
16:44But I do think that Statler always self-sabotages herself.
16:47Every time she tells us her stories about her past relationships, it usually sounds
16:53like she self-sabotaged the relationship.
16:55She's like, well, I gave too much or I paid their rent and I gave them money to buy a
17:00house.
17:01And yet she always does something bad.
17:03And then the relationship fizzles.
17:05So I do think that she's also a person that, that doesn't want to do, it's like a sub,
17:10a subconscious thing where you self-sabotage yourself.
17:13Some people have that, where you're your own worst enemy.
17:16Right?
17:17Like your mind fights against you.
17:20I totally agree with that.
17:22But also, as a good human being, if your partner's excited about something, it doesn't matter
17:28if it's going on a ferry boat or getting new shoes or something that's coming on TV.
17:34If your partner's excited, generally, you as a human, enjoy that.
17:41Enjoy to see your partner excited about something.
17:45And she literally says, your energy's too high right now.
17:49So because it's something you don't want to do, you're taking that excitement.
17:56Misery loves company, the famous saying.
18:00And that's exactly what she's doing.
18:02Every time Dempsey's happy about something, Statler drags her down.
18:08That is so accurate.
18:09Every time.
18:11It's so funny because I tweeted out tonight.
18:14I said, if Buzz Killington was a person, it's Statler.
18:20So I love that you, it's so accurate because she is Buzz Killington.
18:23Every time Dempsey is excited or happy about something, here comes Statler killing that buzz.
18:29She's just like, oh, this van is too small.
18:32And I don't know how I'm going to get internet.
18:34And I don't know how we're going to pay.
18:35But whatever the situation is and it's positive, she's there to bring a negative light into the situation.
18:42And I was like, man, I remember, I don't remember.
18:44I think it was the Simpsons, whoever created the Buzz Killington character.
18:48And he was just always negative.
18:49I was like, Statler is like Buzz Killington.
18:52She waits until everybody is in a super good mood.
18:55And then she just starts ragging on it.
18:57Like, oh, well, this is a problem.
18:58And I don't like this.
18:59And it's like, she's the person that I don't invite to stuff.
19:03Because I don't want somebody to come and kill my mood.
19:05If I'm trying to have a good night, Statler's not coming.
19:08Because Statler's going to come and she's going to piss all over my good night.
19:11So I think that you nailed it.
19:13She's just a negative person in general.
19:16Like, no matter the situation, things can be going well.
19:19No matter good or bad, she always sees the negative.
19:22You know, there's glass half full, glass half empty people.
19:25She's a glass half empty all the time.
19:27She always sees the negative in whatever the situation is.
19:30Yeah, her glass is broken.
19:34OK, so negative Nancy, Debbie Downer.
19:38Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
19:39Buzz Killington is like a Simpsons character.
19:41I was obsessed with Simpsons.
19:42But yeah, negative Nancy.
19:43And I think Debbie Downer, they did that on MADtv or Saturday Night Live.
19:46But yeah, I want to talk about Sean and Joanne.
19:50Because they're stalling.
19:52They got the kids there.
19:53They rented an Airbnb.
19:55So I have a question.
19:56Did we know that Sean lived with his mom before tonight?
20:00I didn't think so.
20:02So there's, like, more red flags popping up with Sean left and right.
20:05Like, I thought it was weird when he was, like, when we first met him,
20:08he's like, if anyone wants to know what my job is, I'm a dad.
20:11And I was like, cool, so who's paying for shit?
20:14You know, so and now I'm finding out his mom is paying for shit.
20:18So, like, now there's, like, all these red flags popping up for me
20:21because I was like, they've been married for three years, whatever.
20:25That's what neither here or there.
20:27But he lives with his mom.
20:28He doesn't have a job.
20:29What does he do all day?
20:31Like, I have questions now.
20:33Because obviously he's a fighter.
20:35I think whatever, I don't know if it's MMA over there.
20:37I don't know what type of fighting they have.
20:39But those people, I have friends that are fighters.
20:41They don't fight every day.
20:43I have friends that are MMA fighters that fight two or three times a year.
20:47And then the rest of the time they just train.
20:50So they have, like, a normal job.
20:52Or, you know, they do things to make money in between their fights
20:55because they don't fight.
20:56I don't think as a fighter it's physically,
20:58you're physically capable of fighting every week
21:00because you have to train, you have to make weight,
21:03you have to prepare yourself.
21:05So what the hell is this man doing all day?
21:07I'm just really confused.
21:08And now I'm beginning to wonder if Joanne is funding his life.
21:13You know, because obviously his mom is paying all the bills
21:15and keeping him and his daughter fed.
21:17But, like, is she the one paying for all the tattoos and the clothes
21:21and for him to have a good life?
21:22Is this why he likes MILFs?
21:24Like, I'm getting, like, red flag after red flag now.
21:28So now when she, okay, not only is she just leaving her kids behind
21:34and moving to a different country,
21:36is she moving in with him and his mom?
21:40Right.
21:41That's a great question.
21:42Like, what the hell?
21:43That's a great question.
21:44Because he clearly has no, not even an apartment.
21:48You know, at his age I was like, I get it.
21:50You may not have a house in your early 30s,
21:52but you could have an apartment.
21:54You have a daughter.
21:55You know, like, you would want her to have her own.
21:57And I know a grandparent, you know,
21:58they're going to take care of their grandchild, whatever,
22:01no matter the situation.
22:02But I wonder, is he taking advantage of his mom?
22:05You know, is it that he could have had his own place,
22:07but he just doesn't want to and he's now taking advantage of her?
22:10Because now she's taking care of a grandkid, too.
22:12Because if he doesn't have a job, you know,
22:14if there's a grandma in the house,
22:15the grandma is not going to let her grandchild suffer.
22:17So he's, like, taking advantage of his mom.
22:19And if he would take advantage of his mom,
22:21he would take advantage of Joanne, right?
22:23Like, that's pretty damn clear.
22:25So I just want to know, again, how much money has she sent him?
22:28That's, like, I need to know.
22:30Like, I need to know how much, is it, like, a monthly thing?
22:33Is it, like, if that's when he ever asked?
22:35Like, how much, like, now I'm just wanting to know
22:38why they ended up together.
22:41Because she said that her business is pretty successful.
22:45I mean, all of the psychics say that, right?
22:47So we don't, I have never seen financial records.
22:51But she says that it's pretty successful.
22:53So I'm beginning to wonder if he picked her.
22:56Because remember, they met during a reading.
22:59And I'm beginning to wonder if that wasn't coincidental.
23:03Maybe he was, like, oh, she charges so much for these readings.
23:07She's booked all the time.
23:08They just started talking.
23:09And he's weaseling his way into her financial situation, right?
23:14She should have seen coming.
23:16Well, yeah.
23:17If she's a real psychic, she should have saw in the cards
23:20that he's scamming her, right?
23:23I mean, I don't, I liked him at first.
23:27But tonight was just a lot for me.
23:29When he's like, oh, I live with my mom.
23:31So I just got us an Airbnb.
23:32And I was like, back up.
23:34I was like, y'all have been married for three years.
23:36So in three years, you didn't have time to get a place?
23:40Because what if, for some weird reason, her kids do like you?
23:45And they do approve of her leaving the country.
23:47Where the hell are y'all going to go?
23:50So now you have three years to prepare that, three years.
23:53So you have three years to save money.
23:55You have three years to make plans.
23:56You have three years to get a down payment for a house.
23:58You have all this time to prepare, and you've done nothing.
24:01All you could prepare for them was an Airbnb, which you can literally book
24:04within two minutes with your phone.
24:06So that's no planning at all.
24:08Probably with her money.
24:12Also, Gina says his job is taking money from MILFs.
24:16See, I'm beginning to think that.
24:18Because he said that his type is American MILFs.
24:21And him being a younger guy, he takes care of himself in decent shape.
24:28I think that it's very possible that he could swindle money out of an older
24:32woman, right?
24:34Oh, he's good looking.
24:35He's definitely good looking.
24:37He doesn't look like he's had a shitty hard life.
24:40He looks like he takes care of himself.
24:42I mean, I can see a lot of American women that would be attracted to him.
24:48But do you think it's one of those scams where he doesn't ever want to come
24:51here?
24:52Like, remember, who was it, Mike and Amena?
24:55Like, the people that just like the support.
24:58Remember, Mike was paying Amena's rent.
25:00She was never in a million years going to leave that situation.
25:03I think Amena had a man the whole time.
25:05I'm just being real.
25:06I think she had a man the whole time.
25:07Mike was just paying the rent.
25:09But I think that maybe he's not looking to actually get a green card.
25:14I think he likes his life where it is.
25:16He just is looking for somebody to fund it.
25:18He definitely wants to fund it.
25:20Yeah, I don't think that he wants to move here.
25:22I don't think that that's ever really a thing.
25:24And I kind of think in the back of his mind, he knows that she can't leave.
25:28You know, she's got an eight-year-old kid.
25:30He knows that she can't leave and come live there.
25:32And I think that's an easy way for him to just keep her on the hook for
25:35sending money.
25:36I think that he knows deep down it's impossible.
25:38She's never going to be able to leave her eight-year-old son.
25:40If she's a good mother, she's never going to do it.
25:43Like, even if the son says it's okay, she's still not going to do it.
25:46And I know that her ex-husband is not going to let her take their son.
25:49I don't even know the man.
25:50But I know he's not going to let her take his son to Ireland.
25:53I already know that.
25:54I know one thing about parents.
25:56Just because they're separated doesn't mean that either parent loves the
25:58child less.
25:59So I guarantee you if she tries to take that child to another country for
26:03good, there's no chance it's going to happen.
26:06And I think Sean is like, yeah, I know she'll never be able to make this
26:09work.
26:10So I'm just going to keep love bombing her and keep getting as much money
26:14out of her as I can.
26:15I think, Jeannie, you're right.
26:16There's a lot of other women involved.
26:18I think other women go to Ireland.
26:20I mean, I think it's the same situation with Tiger Lily.
26:24So she went over there, she married him, and then she had to come back.
26:28She's got two littles, and he knew that, but she's wealthy.
26:32That's what these men are doing is they're roping in these
26:35American women and legally marrying them in their country.
26:40So there's got to be some sort of financial support that has to be
26:44happening, because they know these women aren't going to leave their
26:48children behind and move over there.
26:51And I think he's a prime example of that.
26:53Yeah, that's true.
26:55That's true.
26:56Because, see, we were talking about that yesterday, 22-year-old model,
27:00that's code for broke, right?
27:03First of all, a 22-year-old guy is usually not doing well financially.
27:06That's, like, too early on.
27:08Just like a 22-year-old girl, they're still in college or they're just
27:10getting out of college or just figuring shit out.
27:12They're not going to be able to support themselves, barely.
27:15I mean, I guess 10, 15 years ago they could a little more, but, like,
27:18now you're, like, 30 before you can support yourself.
27:21Like, the world is, like, really different.
27:23So, like, she's basically taking on a third kid, you know, and that's
27:26kind of what Joanne is doing.
27:28She's taking on a third kid, and then her third kid has a kid.
27:32And I haven't done much research into Joanne's ex-husband,
27:37but Tiger Lily's ex-husband is in a very powerful position.
27:43So even if she wanted to fight him, I don't think financially she would win.
27:51She might have a lot of money, but I think he's got a lot more,
27:54and I think he would have better attorneys and be able to fight that.
27:59And any good mother is not going to be like, oh, okay, well,
28:05since I didn't want to move anywhere.
28:07Even if the husband hates the ex-wife, they don't hate their kids, you know?
28:12And I've seen a lot of these custody battles where it'll just be, like,
28:16across state lines, like a state away.
28:18They will fight you.
28:19They will fight you.
28:20Not so much that they don't want you to be happy.
28:23It's more so much that you can't, because that's going to greatly limit
28:27the time that they have.
28:29Because, you know, a lot of dads or moms, they work a full-time job,
28:32so if you're 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 hours away,
28:35they can't always make a 10-hour drive just to see the kid
28:38and then drive all the way back.
28:39So they're going to fight you because it's making less time
28:43that that child will be available for them.
28:45And that's not fair, you know?
28:46And I think if that's the case, Sean's pretty smart.
28:50You know, he's pretty smart.
28:51But he said in the beginning, he loves MILFs.
28:54And one thing about a MILF, she knows exactly what she wants,
28:57and she usually can take care of herself.
28:59And that's something that you would want if you're a male gigolo, basically.
29:04Like, if you're looking for a woman to take care of you,
29:07you would want a MILF.
29:08MILFs are a dream, you know?
29:10It's like sugar daddy, but in female form.
29:12They can take care of you.
29:13They can give you what you need financially.
29:16And if that's what he's doing, there's probably a lot of MILFs.
29:20Like, I think there's a rotation of women coming to Ireland, right?
29:23It's definitely probably a rotation.
29:25This guy is not a rookie, you know?
29:28Like, I feel like he's working his way in with the kids.
29:31And it's like, yeah, I get that you want to have a good relationship
29:34with the kids.
29:35But if she's never going to actually move over there,
29:37does it really matter how her kids feel about you?
29:40You know, like, it's not going to make or break anything.
29:43You know, on our sunset tonight, I don't know a lot
29:46about your relationship.
29:47I know that you guys are together, but I don't know a lot
29:50about your relationship.
29:53Well, remember, Sean's mom and daughter doesn't know anything
29:57about this either.
29:58Because at first, I was like, well, he should have brought them all
30:01to the mom's house so everybody could get to know each other.
30:03But I think the mom might not be fully aware of what he's doing
30:08with all these different women.
30:10So he probably rents the same Airbnb every time a woman comes out.
30:15So his mom, right?
30:16So his mom isn't catching on that he's got, like,
30:20a roster of MILFs that come out to see him and give him gifts
30:24and bring him, I don't know what they do, give him money.
30:28Oh, you know what?
30:29We saw this with Stephanie.
30:31When she was on the show, she would bring, like, $20,000 watches.
30:35Do you remember that?
30:36She would bring him all these gifts because he was his sugar mama.
30:39You know, and guys, if there's any sugar mamas out there,
30:42my DMs are open.
30:43Just send me a DM.
30:45Mine too.
30:46Yeah, send us a DM.
30:48Let's work something out.
30:50You know, I'm not a prostitute or anything, but if you want to hang,
30:53we can hang, you know?
30:54Like, you know, it is what it is.
30:55Let's just put that out there real quick.
30:57But I don't know.
30:58Tonight was like a red flag for me.
31:00I was just like, I don't know.
31:02I don't feel like this guy is legit.
31:04Like, when I found out at first, it caught me off guard too at first.
31:07And he's like, you don't want to know my job because I'm a dad.
31:09And I'm like, yeah, being a dad is a job.
31:12But also taking care of your family is a job.
31:15So, like, you should have two jobs.
31:16You should have a job job.
31:17And then you should be a dad.
31:18So that, I did a little head scratch.
31:21Because I was like, yeah, lots of dads are dads,
31:23but they also have a job to sustain that life.
31:28You know, you have to sustain.
31:29Children do not understand money.
31:32They don't understand finances.
31:33They don't understand mortgages.
31:34They don't understand that.
31:35They just need, they need to be taken care of.
31:37And to be a dad, you got to have a damn job.
31:39Absolutely.
31:41Oh, so Tata was crying again this episode.
31:44So I guess the thing on X is she cries in every situation.
31:49And I was like, I think there's a drinking game that was going on on X
31:52tonight where every time she cried, you drank.
31:54I didn't participate, as you can see, because I can still stand.
31:57Yes.
31:58But if you did, I noticed it as we were going along.
32:02She does cry in every situation.
32:04She is the Jasmine of this season.
32:07Wait, who?
32:09The Jasmine of this season.
32:11Jasmine.
32:12Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
32:14Everything is a crying situation with her.
32:17And I don't know, that would get really tiring.
32:20You know?
32:21And I think that's another victim mentality behavior, right?
32:24Like when you really want to get your way.
32:26Because, you know, Jasmine, the waterworks started the second
32:29Gina wasn't saying yes.
32:32As long as Gina was saying yes, there was no tears.
32:34But whenever he didn't want to give her money for a pageant or he
32:37didn't want to give her money for a lawyer or he didn't want to give
32:40her money for new boobs or whatever or a new ass cheek, you know,
32:43the tears would start falling.
32:45And I think it's a red flag for me because it's like a victim mentality thing.
32:49Well, also, yeah, the Divas Week says she's extremely immature of her age.
32:53She looks young.
32:54Every time I see her, I forget her real age because, my God,
32:59she could be an 18, 17-year-old girl.
33:01She looks so young.
33:02But she's a grown-up.
33:03But she is.
33:04She's really immature.
33:06And, again, I think I said this before.
33:08She went straight from her parents' house to her husband's house,
33:11and she's never had to worry about taking care of herself.
33:15You know, she was never independent.
33:17And I think that plays a role because there's always been somebody to
33:21take care of her.
33:22And I think my mom taught me, she was like, you know,
33:26because I had a sister, she told my sister,
33:29you should always move out and get your own before, you know,
33:32you get married or get engaged, move in with a man.
33:34She's like, know what it's like to be responsible for you before.
33:37Because she's like,
33:38don't just leave my house and go straight to some man's house.
33:40She's like,
33:41because then you're bound to whatever this person is offering you.
33:44If they don't want to take care of you, if they don't want to help you,
33:47they don't have to.
33:48So I think that since she never really had to be independent,
33:51she never had to look out for herself.
33:53I think it makes, you know,
33:55her mindset is of a child because that's how children live.
33:58Children don't have to worry about who's going to pay bills,
34:00who's going to make food, who's going to buy food.
34:02Because you're a child.
34:03Those things are beyond your realm of understanding.
34:05And I think that she's still in that mindset of, because, you know,
34:09James is like, we need money.
34:10And she's just like, somebody's going to pay for stuff.
34:12You know, somebody's going to pay for something.
34:14That's irrelevant because it's never been on her.
34:16It's always been somebody else's issue to worry about.
34:19Oh no, she's not in her forties.
34:23I think she's like in her late twenties.
34:25She is.
34:27I was trying to look.
34:29I think James is 34.
34:32And I think she's like 31, right?
34:35Something like that.
34:36I'm trying to get her exact age.
34:42I have it.
34:43I'm pretty sure she looks much younger.
34:47Hold on.
34:48Let me see if I can find it.
34:50James and Natalia.
34:52Okay.
35:04Okay.
35:05She is.
35:06Oh, wait, no.
35:10I just know that.
35:12I, I.
35:14She's so.
35:18Okay.
35:26You guys have been married for like five years and you lived in the
35:29United States.
35:30You can't tell me you've never had this conversation.
35:33Oh, that's weird.
35:34I can't find her age either.
35:35But yeah, I think that, well, yeah,
35:37they've been married and they've lived in different places and they've
35:39traveled a lot.
35:40And, you know, they have like their travel.
35:41Instagram where they they've traveled around the world.
35:43And I'm beginning to wonder.
35:44Yeah.
35:46And I was like, adding a child into that.
35:47He's a hundred percent.
35:48Right.
35:49It greatly influences your freedoms.
35:52You know, if you want to travel, you want to see the world,
35:55you want to do things.
35:56And I tell people all the time, if you don't want kids, don't have kids.
36:00Because it's such a lifelong commitment.
36:03It's not like it's not till they turn 18.
36:05It's not till they turn 21.
36:06It's forever.
36:07You know, if they're 35, 45 and they call you, you're going to pick up.
36:11Right.
36:12Because that's your child.
36:13That's your, your baby.
36:14No matter how old they get.
36:15So when people say they don't want children, I respect that because it's,
36:18if you're not ready to take a commitment that it's going to last for the rest
36:22of your life, you know,
36:23and then God forbid that child is born with like a disability or an ailment,
36:27you are going to have to take care of them and help them.
36:29You know?
36:30So it's like, if you're not ready to have a child, don't, you know,
36:34I think that it's such a horrible thing where people rush into,
36:37to having children and then they're like bound to something that they,
36:41you know, their heart's not in.
36:43Right.
36:44Your heart really has to be into having kids.
36:45And I think that James don't want them.
36:47And I can see that.
36:48And I respect that even more because the worst thing you can do is have a
36:51baby and not take care of it or not be there for it or be a deadbeat.
36:54That's even worse.
36:55So at least he knows before that he doesn't want to get into that.
36:59Yeah.
37:00And she is 27.
37:01Yeah.
37:02Yeah.
37:03She's like late.
37:04Okay.
37:05Yeah.
37:06So late 30.
37:07Yeah.
37:08She looks like she could be 17, which is crazy.
37:09She's so tiny.
37:10She cries and she's soft-spoken and she's immature, but yeah,
37:13she's grown, grown, like literally grown.
37:15But I think it's greatly affected by the fact that she's never had to
37:19worry about herself.
37:20Someone has always been there to take care of her.
37:22She went straight from mom and dad straight to her husband.
37:24And then, you know,
37:25her husband is very financially stable and financially educated.
37:29So I don't think she really ever knows what struggle is like.
37:33I think that she's always had people that were financially stable around
37:37her.
37:38So she doesn't even know what it's like to worry.
37:40So that's why when James is worried,
37:43she's not worried because she's never had that feeling.
37:45She doesn't know what that is.
37:46Yeah.
37:47I'm so sad that we didn't get Josh and Lily this time.
37:51Yeah, we didn't get Josh and Lily this week.
37:54But it said in the preview next week that she's having to ask him for
38:00intimacy and she feels like he doesn't want to have intimacy.
38:05And I think a lot of things with Josh and Lily are lost in translation.
38:10I think that a lot of their problems,
38:12they're not actually problems.
38:14It's just,
38:15they're not communicating and it's more so because of a language barrier.
38:18It's funny because Lily speaks really good English,
38:21but I don't know if she fully understands,
38:24you know,
38:25because in English,
38:26sometimes you have to read between the lines,
38:28right?
38:29Like you can say something and mean something.
38:31It has a deeper meaning.
38:32And Lily might be a surface English speaker and understand her.
38:40Like she might only hear the surface of things.
38:42She doesn't go into that.
38:43Cause you know,
38:44we'll say one thing,
38:45but there'll be an emotional meaning underneath it,
38:47you know?
38:48And I think maybe she doesn't pick up on that.
38:50Cause I don't think that he flew all the way over there for a woman that
38:54he doesn't want to have sex with.
38:56I don't think that's the case.
38:57I agree.
38:58I agree.
38:59I,
39:00I've,
39:01I've noticed it from the beginning,
39:02their communication,
39:03they have really good communication,
39:05but anytime there's a language barrier like that,
39:09even if you don't raise your voice when you're upset,
39:13if you start talking fast,
39:15English is hard to understand.
39:18Even for people,
39:19their first language,
39:21someone gets talking real quick and it's like,
39:23wait,
39:24what any,
39:25you know,
39:26you almost have to rewind or have a repeat or something.
39:29It gets,
39:30it's hard to understand.
39:31So if,
39:32you know,
39:33just the bare minimum to communicate,
39:35it's going to get,
39:36just like if she was speaking to him in Chinese,
39:39you know,
39:40it,
39:41it just,
39:42it makes me,
39:43it makes me sad.
39:44Cause I really liked them as a couple.
39:46Yeah.
39:47I do too.
39:48I think that again,
39:49like I told you in the beginning,
39:50I don't know how compatible they really are because I really feel like
39:55she wants a trophy husband that she can control and she can,
39:59you know,
40:00make feel bad.
40:01You know,
40:02I feel like she wants to be a dominant person in the relationship and she
40:06wants to be the one,
40:07like I have the money.
40:08So when I say goes and,
40:10you know,
40:11you know,
40:12some men are okay with that.
40:13A lot of times it works better with the woman dealing with the man that
40:16way,
40:17you know,
40:18but sometimes it doesn't work.
40:19You know,
40:20there's women who just don't want to be controlled.
40:22They want to go out and get their own money,
40:24their own job.
40:25And if the man doesn't want to give them any money,
40:26he doesn't have to,
40:27you know,
40:28like there's,
40:29so I don't know if they're ever going to be compatible because that five
40:31year period where he can't work,
40:33it's probably going to break them.
40:35Like to be a hundred percent honest,
40:36I think it's going to break them.
40:37Five years is a long time to fully,
40:39to be fully dependent on another person when you were never dependent on
40:43anyone.
40:44Right.
40:45Like he was independent,
40:46owned his own home,
40:47had a good job.
40:48And now he's going to be fully independent,
40:50dependent on someone who makes sure they bring it up every second of the
40:53day that he's depending on them.
40:56I think that's,
40:57what's going to eat it up.
40:58And I think after a while,
40:59he's just going to be like,
41:00I just want to go back home and get a job and live a normal life.
41:03Right.
41:04Like,
41:05I don't want to be made feel made to feel bad that she spent a hundred
41:08dollars on my food.
41:09You know,
41:10like it's going to eventually get old.
41:11Yeah,
41:12I agree.
41:13I don't,
41:14I don't know.
41:15I kind of,
41:16I caught part of Kelly Mac's tip.
41:20Live today.
41:21And he was on there and she was asking him some questions and the,
41:25I didn't catch the whole thing,
41:27but one thing she did say is,
41:29so are you in America or are you in China?
41:32And he said,
41:33you're just going to have to watch to find out.
41:36Really?
41:37That makes me think things might've gone south.
41:41Yeah.
41:42That he's not in China.
41:43Cause technically he can say she's in China and it wouldn't break the
41:48NBA because we know he's in China.
41:50So if he would,
41:51if he says anything other than China,
41:53that would break the NDA.
41:54So that would mean he's not.
41:55So that's kind of,
41:57that's kind of sad.
41:59I did like them together,
42:00but again,
42:01I didn't think from the beginning,
42:02since it was going to be an imbalanced relationship,
42:04it was going to work.
42:05Yeah.
42:06The five years is too long.
42:07Like I can't be fully dependent on somebody else for five years.
42:09I'm too independent.
42:10I've had my own place since I was 18,
42:13almost 19.
42:15I bought my own car at 19 with,
42:17I made my own payments.
42:18Like I'm just too,
42:19I don't depend on people and it's just,
42:21I don't like to ask people for stuff.
42:23So it's five years would be too much of a commitment for me to be
42:27dependent on someone.
42:29It's just not who I am.
42:30Absolutely.
42:31Me too.
42:32So.
42:33So I want to say on forbidden love,
42:36we saw that Elmer and what's her name?
42:39Elmer and hold on.
42:41Lindsay.
42:42Lindsay broke up.
42:43And it was like this,
42:45this big fight.
42:46And she said that there was a woman that Elmer was talking to,
42:51but she said something interesting on the episode.
42:53She was like,
42:54I don't have any actual proof that the,
42:56that he's cheating on me,
42:57but he was going to her house.
42:59Cause I guess she put a tracker on the truck.
43:01So I wanted to get your opinion on that.
43:03Like,
43:04how do you feel?
43:05Cause they're married.
43:06This is a married couple.
43:07So if a husband is going to the house of a woman and not telling you,
43:12is that enough to see,
43:14to just say that he's cheating on you because he's not being open and
43:17honest about where he's at.
43:18Yeah.
43:19The horse lady.
43:20Cause I was like,
43:21no,
43:22it could be a friendship,
43:23but when you start hiding things,
43:25I think that's where the,
43:26the deceit and distrust comes in.
43:30Right.
43:31Okay.
43:32So I have a tainted opinion on this,
43:35but before I say that,
43:38I will say.
43:40I don't,
43:41I can't say that he was hiding.
43:43So she doesn't have any proof.
43:45First of all,
43:46second of all,
43:47he owns this roofing company,
43:49right?
43:50This is a contracted job.
43:51So he is contractually obligated to go there.
43:55If there is something going on where he.
44:00Repaired the roof and had to bring more materials or anything like that.
44:05He would still need to communicate with her now.
44:09People,
44:10she said something about him using a couple of emojis,
44:13smiley face emojis or whatever.
44:15She didn't say it was like heart emojis or the purple devil or an eggplant or
44:19anything like that.
44:20She said,
44:21smiley face emojis.
44:22So I use smiley face emojis all the freaking time.
44:27So does my husband.
44:28So to my kids,
44:29so does my boss.
44:30When you're texting employees,
44:33like business wise,
44:34do y'all use emojis?
44:35I do.
44:36Oh,
44:37so you do.
44:38Okay.
44:39Yeah.
44:40Like have a good day with a smiley face,
44:42whatever.
44:43But also she said that they were messaging on Snapchat.
44:46Now that's the part that sways me a little bit differently,
44:53because if I'm contractually obligated to you because of work,
44:58you can text my phone number.
45:01We don't need to snap chat where the messages disappear.
45:05That part is off.
45:06I get that.
45:07So let's say that.
45:11Let's say that Elmer wasn't having sex with this woman.
45:14Is the relationship just talking like,
45:18cause you know,
45:19emotional cheating can be cheating too.
45:20Is that enough that she can't trust him anymore that he would talk to
45:25another woman behind her back?
45:26Okay.
45:27Well,
45:28I'm sorry.
45:29She's talking all this shit about him.
45:30First of all,
45:31she put his business out there on national TV,
45:33how he's addicted to watching porn and blah,
45:35blah,
45:36blah,
45:37and how he's like raising a child.
45:38He doesn't brush his teeth.
45:39So she already humiliated him on national TV.
45:41Then she puts a tracker on him.
45:45Yeah.
45:46So he's clearly got issues.
45:49He's not out there tracking her and all that shit.
45:52But like I told you yesterday,
45:54I did watch his Tik TOK life.
45:57Yeah.
45:59He insinuated on there without directly saying it,
46:03that she made it look like he was cheating because she was actually
46:10cheating.
46:11She,
46:12they have since divorced their daughters,
46:1414 months old,
46:15and she is very much in a very serious relationship.
46:20Right.
46:21And post it on social media.
46:23He is not in a relationship.
46:25He's not even seen anyone.
46:27Well,
46:28it would be,
46:29it would have to be somebody that she already knew because they,
46:33the daughter is only 14 months old and they were together when the
46:36daughter was born.
46:37So,
46:38yeah.
46:39And a divorce takes more than a few weeks to go through.
46:42So it would,
46:43this relationship had to have,
46:45they had to at least known each other while she knew Elmer.
46:48Right.
46:49Like I feel like,
46:50or overlap some sort of overlap.
46:52So that,
46:53that could be too,
46:54because you know what they say?
46:55The guilty,
46:56the guilty one,
46:57always the guilty dog barks first.
46:59Right.
47:00So if she was out doing something wrong,
47:02when you're doing something wrong,
47:04you're always paranoid that someone is following you or doing something
47:07wrong too,
47:08because your guilt,
47:09your conscience is very active,
47:10especially when you're doing something bad.
47:12When you're doing something,
47:13you know,
47:14you're not supposed to be doing your conscience is overactive.
47:16Like it's,
47:17it's always making you feel like,
47:19oh,
47:20I have to pay attention to what people are doing because it's,
47:22it's you.
47:23It's actually,
47:24it is actually telling you on you,
47:25but you're,
47:26you're projecting onto other people.
47:28So it's very possible that,
47:30and I don't want to sound like rude,
47:33but Elmer is like 23,
47:3624,
47:37but I feel like he's got like the mindset of like a 14,
47:4015 year old.
47:41Do you,
47:42I don't know if he's capable of like being a liar and a cheater,
47:46like,
47:47and being able to,
47:49to convince people that he's not,
47:51I feel like he,
47:52cause when he's doing something wrong,
47:53cause like when she would confront him about the porn on his phone,
47:56he,
47:57you know,
47:58when you approach someone about something they did and they just look guilty
48:00before you even say anything,
48:01he just looks guilty.
48:02So it's like,
48:03if he really was doing something,
48:05it would be very obvious because he,
48:07he was raised in an Amish community where you couldn't do anything.
48:10And then he got caught,
48:11you got beat,
48:12you know?
48:13So I feel like he has a conscience too.
48:15And I feel like,
48:16I don't think that he would be out there trying to sleep with everyone.
48:19Right.
48:20That he,
48:21he,
48:22I don't know.
48:23I just,
48:24I don't get that vibe from him.
48:25And,
48:26you know,
48:27I think.
48:28Watching.
48:29Okay.
48:30Watching the show.
48:31She makes him look like a total idiot.
48:33Like he's just stupid.
48:35He's got no common sense.
48:37Like he's just dumb.
48:39According to her.
48:40And that's how she makes it look.
48:42But then when you watch him on Tik TOK.
48:45And you watch him do his lives in his apartment that he's established
48:50And talking about the roofing company that he owns.
48:54Like this guy's not stupid.
48:56He,
48:57if you listen to him talk.
49:00Outside of TV,
49:02he seems very mature.
49:03He seems like his shit is together.
49:05He had his daughter till eight o'clock last night.
49:08Like he's,
49:09he's a full on dad.
49:11He's a full on business owner.
49:13He's a grown man.
49:14Like he's very different than what,
49:18what we've been shown on TV.
49:20So if you haven't watched his Tik TOKs,
49:23you should totally go watch it because you're going to see a different
49:27side of him.
49:28And you'll probably like him.
49:30I really liked the guy.
49:32I think,
49:33I think he hit the nail on the head when he's saying all the things that
49:36she did.
49:37And she's trying to turn the tables and make it look like he's bad.
49:41Hmm.
49:42I do need to watch the Tik TOKs though,
49:46because yeah,
49:47on the show,
49:48she says a lot of belittling things.
49:51She's like,
49:52Oh,
49:53you don't know how to shower and clean yourself.
49:55And,
49:56you know,
49:57she says a lot of belittling,
49:58demeaning things.
49:59And again,
50:00when you did something bad and you want people to be on your side,
50:03the best way to do that is to attack the person,
50:06the other person,
50:07you know,
50:08cause you want the sympathy of the crowd.
50:10And I dunno,
50:11I felt like it was weird of her to want to marry a 23 year old who had
50:16just left the Amish because she should have known that the journey for him
50:21was going to be so much more difficult because first of all,
50:25he's adjusting to the,
50:26the English world.
50:28I think is what you would say.
50:29He's adjusting to being a completely normal man,
50:32like a normal guy.
50:33And then to,
50:34to go from not being able to date,
50:37no sex,
50:38no pornography,
50:39no,
50:40no,
50:41even self-pleasure to being married.
50:42That's a massive transition.
50:45Like that's a huge transition.
50:46And the fact that she thought that he was going to be able to transition into
50:49that smoothly,
50:50you know,
50:51that makes me wonder what's going on in her head,
50:53you know,
50:54like what was going on in her head that you thought that he was going to
50:56adjust to being a married man and a father like that.
51:00But also you,
51:01you met him because you hired him to do a root,
51:07a job on your roof.
51:09That's how you guys met.
51:12So now every time he goes out to do a job and there's a female in the
51:17house,
51:18you're automatically going to be suspicious that that's what he's doing
51:21because that's how you met him.
51:23Oh yeah.
51:24Oh yeah.
51:25Like I hear people all the time.
51:27They'll meet a girl in like a strip club,
51:29like they'll go to Vegas and I'll meet their girlfriend in the strip club.
51:32And then every time she goes to work in the back of your mind is,
51:38are there guys trying to pick her up?
51:40Because you know,
51:41that's where you met her.
51:42And it's like,
51:43you can't tell her she can't go to work at the strip club because that's
51:45where you met her.
51:46Right.
51:47So if it was an issue for you dating someone who works at a strip club,
51:49you wouldn't know her.
51:50So it's like,
51:51and it's the same thing.
51:52It's like,
51:53you can't tell people how to live their life because you're insecure about
51:58how you feel.
51:59So yeah,
52:00he came to her house.
52:01She picked him up as a roofer.
52:04And so her insecurity is he's going to other women's house.
52:08They could pick him up.
52:09Yeah,
52:10that can happen.
52:11That's your insecurity though.
52:12Yeah.
52:13You,
52:14if you're married to a person,
52:15you have to trust that person.
52:16If you don't trust that person and you marry them again,
52:18that's an issue that you have to deal with because you should have never
52:21married the person.
52:22If you don't trust them,
52:23if you think that they're going to,
52:24every time that they go to work,
52:25they're cheating on you,
52:26you know,
52:27cause that's what Angela did.
52:28She made Michael quit his job and stop working because there were females
52:31that existed in Nigeria.
52:33Who wouldn't know there are females like that.
52:35So he had to quit his job because her security was insecurity was if he's
52:39around other people,
52:40women,
52:41they're going to cheat.
52:42And it's like,
52:43you shouldn't,
52:44if you really have that mindset,
52:45you're not ready to be in a relationship,
52:47let alone a marriage.
52:48Because if you think that every time the person leaves the house,
52:51they're,
52:52they're cheating on you.
52:53You're not ready to be in a relationship.
52:54If you have to track them,
52:55if you have to track them,
52:57you shouldn't be in a relationship.
52:59If you are too insecure in yourself to be in a relationship with another
53:05person,
53:06because trust is the number one main component.
53:08Some people think it's love.
53:09It's really not.
53:10It's trust and love because you need to trust that this person loves you
53:14and trust that they're going to do right by you before you even love them.
53:17Because if you don't,
53:19if cause marriages,
53:20you're,
53:21you're hell you're putting finances together.
53:23You're buying stuff together.
53:25You're building something.
53:26You need to trust that person.
53:27Right.
53:28Like,
53:29I don't care about love at that point.
53:30If you're going half on a mortgage,
53:32I need to trust you.
53:33Love is the one thing,
53:35but I need to trust you because you could screw me over.
53:37Absolutely.
53:39So.
53:40Well,
53:42right,
53:43right.
53:44So the,
53:45the season ended and,
53:46um,
53:47um,
53:48one thing that I want to point out,
53:49Chris still converted to Muslim,
53:50um,
53:51to Islam,
53:52even though him and Linda broke up.
53:53Linda went,
53:54oh,
53:55I know.
53:58I was shocked.
53:59She went off on him.
54:01And I'm,
54:02I mean,
54:03I'm not,
54:04I'm not like either on either side.
54:05Cause I kind of feel like I needed to see the messages to really
54:08understand who was wrong and who was right.
54:10But she really went off.
54:12Cause he claimed that.
54:13Well,
54:14do you think it was him?
54:15She's wrong.
54:16She is wrong,
54:18wrong,
54:19wrong.
54:20This man gave up his family,
54:22moved out of state,
54:23switched religions for you.
54:26Something that you wouldn't even consider doing for him.
54:29The day he's moving into your house that you got together,
54:35you tell him GTFO,
54:38like no way.
54:39He said,
54:40someone hit him up.
54:42He responded.
54:43I have a girlfriend.
54:44I'm not interested.
54:45Okay.
54:46Read the message,
54:47show the message.
54:48She wouldn't even give that opportunity.
54:51She just shut him down.
54:53As her friend or sister or whoever it was in the car is laughing and
54:57giggling about it.
54:58She is wrong.
55:02I see.
55:03I wanted to see the messages.
55:04I needed context because you know,
55:07people reach out.
55:08You can't control who reaches out to you on social media.
55:10Somebody sent you a message.
55:12They can send you a message.
55:13It pops up on your phone.
55:14Period.
55:15First time responding to my DMS.
55:17I have like 700 freaking messages in my DMS.
55:22I'm so bad at it.
55:23I am so bad at it.
55:25I'll see a message come in.
55:27I think I'll respond later.
55:28Then I forget about it.
55:29And then 500 other messages come in.
55:31It pushes that one down.
55:33And then I never respond.
55:35And I look like the worst person.
55:36At least he took the time to respond and say,
55:40I'm in a relationship.
55:41Thanks though.
55:42Yeah,
55:43I agree.
55:44Cause you know,
55:45Rob,
55:46he was just answering back to the girls.
55:47He didn't say he was married.
55:48Okay.
55:49And oh yeah.
55:50I think it was appearances,
55:51approval of photos for mom.
55:52I think you're right.
55:53I think when the parents found out that he was moving into her apartment,
55:56they didn't like it.
55:57And I think that she needed to not allow him to move into the apartment.
56:00I think that you're onto something with that.
56:02All right.
56:03We ran out of time.
56:04So we're going to come back next week for the,
56:06before the 90 days episode.
56:08Three.
56:09Oh yeah,
56:10we're going to three and then we'll be back with,
56:12oh,
56:13so forbidden love is over.
56:14So I wonder what's premiering or was it Plathfield?
56:17Maybe it was Plathfield that premiered.
56:19Something should be coming.
56:20I don't.
56:23I don't remember what.
56:25Well,
56:26I don't know.
56:27Oh,
56:28I love a mama's boy.
56:29Mama's boy is coming up next week.
56:31So we'll probably cover that,
56:32but yeah,
56:33we'll be back.
56:34Hopefully fingers crossed.
56:35I hear from DD soon.
56:36We want to get DD back here.
56:37Make sure you're following.
56:39Make sure you're following Cara on social media.
56:43I'm going to tag her on this video.
56:44Make sure you're following me.
56:46Hold on.
56:47Hold on.
56:48We're going to have Elmer on soon.
56:49He just messaged me.
56:50So probably next week we can have him on.
56:52Yeah.
56:53Yeah.
56:54Or if he can do this week,
56:55let me know and we can,
56:57we can do an interview with him.
56:58Cause yeah,
56:59I have a lot of questions.
57:00Oh,
57:01make sure you're following all social media platforms at George Mossy,
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