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"Mera Khayal Hai Ham Qanoon Sazi Karna Chahte Hain..."Musadik Malik's Statement
"Mera Khayal Hai Ham Qanoon Sazi Karna Chahte Hain..."Musadik Malik's Statement
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00:00Do we want to make the constitution and the law? I think we want to make it.
00:05Why do we want to make the constitution and the law?
00:08Because when a decision of the Supreme Court is not in accordance with any other decision,
00:15then it means that there is some ambiguity in the constitution and the law.
00:19When two judges, one Supreme Court judge makes a decision on NAB,
00:24and the other Supreme Court judge makes a second decision on NAB,
00:29and there is a constitution of the same country, and a law of the same country,
00:33then at least it becomes clear to you that whatever is written,
00:37the way the court is treating it, after that there is no similarity or similarity in the decisions.
00:44That too in that society, because Muneeb is sitting where there is a precedence-based judicial system,
00:51where it is not that today my heart is not doing it, so today this punishment and tomorrow this punishment,
00:55but if you keep the old decisions in front of you, quote them, cite them, make your case and move forward,
01:02there two benches will usually make different decisions.
01:07Where there is only one bench.
01:09Well, the two are separate, so you said it was temporal that the time was different,
01:13the judge was different, the judge was different.
01:15People sitting in a bench should tell each other that judges should not be seen as politicians wearing a jubba.
01:23When your own fraternity and half a judge sitting on a bench,
01:27tell half the judges sitting on the other side something else,
01:31then what should we say in your program?
01:34No, that is fine, I am just asking that if this is your point of view,
01:37I know that your community also has grudges regarding this, that you have a point of view,
01:42if you are legislating, then tell us what you are doing.
01:44I am telling you.
01:45Do it.
01:46I am telling you.
01:47We will do the table this week.
01:48I don't know about this week.
01:49Behind the scenes, is it working or not?
01:53In my opinion, what I have told you,
01:56for example, a Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, may God bless him,
02:01what should I do?
02:02I can only pray that he appoints another judge of the Supreme Court as a supervisor,
02:09who should be punished.
02:10You are talking about the Peneba monitoring case, right?
02:12Yes, I have said this.
02:13Doctor, my question is very specific.
02:14My question is bigger than yours.
02:15Doctor, in the coming few days, specifically in the next 2-3 weeks,
02:20if there is going to be a legislation, is the government working on any of its provisions?
02:25Look, I don't have any specific thing in front of me.
02:28But I know that in our country, whether it is interference,
02:33in the Punjab Assembly, the new law was written on floor crossing in our country,
02:38all these things are in front of us.
02:40Sir, why are you not agreeing?
02:41Because you are saying that there is a need for legislation.
02:43If there is, then we will agree in front of you.
02:45No, because when I will come to you with a box of sweets,
02:49then the government will openly say that we want to legislate,
02:51but we have not come, we are working on it.
02:53You are saying that you don't know, we don't know the specifics.
02:56Whether he knows or not, whether he knows or not,
02:58Sir, Bagh is full of animals, Doctor.
03:00No, you are doing this out of love.
03:02I mean, all the people are here.
03:03You are doing this out of love.
03:04Look, I have asked both the judges.
03:05I have told you that you are doing this out of love.
03:07Everyone knows, Sir.
03:08Actually, I have said this to you.
03:09Yes?
03:10One second, Muneeb.
03:11One second, Muneeb.
03:12If Muneeb allows me.
03:14We have the things in front of us in the constitution and law,
03:19some of which I have put in front of you, there are more.
03:21There are countless advocates on them and countless people are working on them.
03:26We want that there should be legislation in this country,
03:29so that the kind of theatre that is going on,
03:32this theatre should stop.
03:34There should be clarity in the constitution,
03:35there should be clarity in the law,
03:37there should be consistency in the decisions.
03:38Now you are saying that you are bringing it next week.
03:40Next week we will have the numbers, so we will bring it next week.
03:42Leave next week, next week.
03:43Next week we will have the numbers, so we will bring it next week.
03:45Sir, I am saying that you are not working on a legal constitution,
03:47your government is working on it or not.
03:49I have just told you that we have at least 10 different constitutions in which we are working.
03:54In which the government officials, especially the judges,
03:56have been working on it in accordance with their age.
03:58No, there is no such thing in front of me.
04:00No?
04:01There is no such thing in front of me.
04:02Okay, apart from this,
04:03do you have any suggestions about changing a legislator in reference to the appointment of the Chief Justice?
04:07Some bills have come in front of you,
04:09the numbers which have been increased,
04:10but these specific bills which you are talking about,
04:12are not in front of me.
04:13Is there any work being done on the posting, transfer of judges of the High Courts
04:16or their right to be in some other court?
04:20If a team is working in the Law Division,
04:23because I am not a part of that legal committee,
04:27if someone is working,
04:28you can ask them,
04:29they will tell you,
04:30they have not come in front of me.
04:31Neither have they come in front of the Cabinet,
04:33nor have they come in front of the Zaili Committee,
04:35which I am a member of,
04:36and I am a member of many committees,
04:37nor have they come in front of them.
04:38But if some other committee is working on this,
04:40then I know.
04:41Okay, Mr. Muneeb,
04:42Doc Sir is saying,
04:43and in fact,
04:44if we talk to all the judges,
04:45they say,
04:46we don't know about this,
04:47you talk to Mr. Tadat,
04:48I was listening to Mr. Tawla Tadat,
04:50I was listening to Mr. Rana Sanaullah,
04:52Doc Sir,
04:53if someone comes in my program for the second time,
04:54there has not been any problem in front of them yet.
04:56So then,
04:57whom are you talking to?
04:58Where is this work being done?
04:59Where are you spreading all these rumours and gossips in the air?
05:03Look,
05:04the thing is,
05:05you just gave an example of a garden and flowers,
05:07so the garden is such,
05:08in which there are thorny flowers like Mr. Atarkazmi and me,
05:12we are trying to spread some fragrance from our side.
05:18The thing is,
05:19Doc Sir,
05:20he is our elder brother anyway,
05:23and he is a very noble personality,
05:25I give him this benefit of doubt,
05:28because his portfolio is also different,
05:30he has nothing to do with the law ministry.
05:33But,
05:34I am not ready to take it lightly,
05:37that Doc Sir is a very ordinary person,
05:39he likes his leadership very much,
05:42so there will definitely be some matters,
05:44which will definitely be in Doc Sir's knowledge,
05:47yes,
05:48if he wants to divert that information,
05:49then that is his prerogative,
05:51but I say this much,
05:52and I say it now.
05:56Muneeb,
05:57you try,
05:58Muneeb,
05:59try to get that information on your channel,
06:02that he is not giving it to ARY,
06:04Mr. Atarkazmi,
06:05you also have an agreement on this,
06:07whether Doc Sir has information or not,
06:09he is not telling us,
06:10or he is not telling ARY,
06:11which of these three options do you think is more correct,
06:14Mr. Atarkazmi?
06:15I think the problem is with ARY,
06:17to be honest,
06:18I have no doubt in Doc Sir and the government,
06:21see,
06:22everyone has a doubt on ARY,
06:24okay,
06:25I understood,
06:28yes,
06:29Atar,
06:30see,
06:31any government that legislates,
06:33this is a very important legislation,
06:35and a lot of government is relying on this,
06:38our Minister of Defense said that
06:40in October,
06:41they will attack on elections,
06:43see,
06:44the guarantee of the system at this time,
06:46is very much connected to this legislation,
06:49if your tribunals start running,
06:51in Punjab,
06:52and your,
06:53similarly,
06:54the three seats in Wafaaq,
06:57and it seems that,
06:59a support,
07:00from certain quarters,
07:02especially the judicial quarters,
07:04which the government has,
07:05it may not be like that,
07:06a life support is being given,
07:08but as certain things are being ignored there,
07:11if those things are not ignored,
07:13and these matters go ahead,
07:14then there may be problems for the government,
07:16so,
07:17certainly,
07:18this is the wish of the government,
07:19that this kind of legislation,
07:20and the minister of law,
07:21is very much involved in this,
07:22and the people of Bukla,
07:25if you talk to them,
07:26to the senior people,
07:27they also tell you a lot about this,
07:29now,
07:30the government will do the table,
07:31only when they will have an idea,
07:33more than 95%,
07:35that we can succeed in this,
07:37for now,
07:38they have not achieved those numbers,
07:40it is possible,
07:41they can do it in the future,
07:42the conversation that took place with Maulana,
07:44in that,
07:45the matter is fine,
07:46we have an old relationship of love with Maulana,
07:49and when you don't even know,
07:50our conversation is going on,
07:52but he is upset,
07:53he also said that,
07:54we will leave the vote for this law,
07:56we don't know,
07:57which law,
07:58which vote,
07:59but we have an old relationship with Maulana,