Statements by Venezuelan Attorney General Tarek William Saab on his meeting with Edmundo Gonzalez's lawyer. teleSUR
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00:00:00Welcome to Tell Us Your English. Let's go live to Caracas as we hear statements from Attorney General Tarek William Saab. Let's see.
00:00:09The citizen Edmundo González Urrutia, Dr. José Vicente Araud,
00:00:16who have been coming to deliver a communiqué that they disclosed,
00:00:24which is of public notice, in which the attorney directs,
00:00:34such citizen directs to me as the Attorney General of the Republic,
00:00:41and the Public Prosecutor's Office has a lot of credibility in the country,
00:00:49and in its human rights, in its constitutional guarantees for, according to the communiqué,
00:01:01and he expressed, the representative of González Urrutia,
00:01:09expressed, explained, quotation marks, I used his place, but he is very contradictory,
00:01:19González Urrutia is very contradictory on the reasons why he didn't appear,
00:01:27he hasn't appeared on the three summons before this Public Prosecutor's Office,
00:01:35in which I could say that 99.9% of the people summoned appeared here,
00:01:45because the people who are being summoned have a reason.
00:01:52Why can you be summoned to this Prosecutor's Office?
00:01:57I will say it not in a pedagogical way, but because such a person, a man, woman, citizen,
00:02:07it is subjected to an investigation in quotation marks,
00:02:16could be an alleged responsible collaborator, or a witness, among other reasons.
00:02:24So, the Public Prosecutor's Office has the authority,
00:02:30abided by the constitution and organic law of the Prosecutor's Office,
00:02:36to summon, to interview, under a personal investigation to any Venezuelan citizen,
00:02:47and I have said as a preamble, this letter marks a negative precedent for the Venezuelan right,
00:02:58for the Venezuelan law, this far-right opposition sector,
00:03:03well, there are Venezuelans, first-class Venezuelans, above everyone else,
00:03:12and 99.9% of the rest of Venezuelans are, we don't know how to classify this class,
00:03:25according to this sector, who thinks to be above institutionality, above law, above human rights.
00:03:35And so, you can summon, we can summon any citizen to appear here,
00:03:42and I can speak about a precedent, all members of the commission,
00:03:50Jesus Maria Casal, that's a national primary commission, totally fraudulent,
00:03:58the reading technicians who said that there weren't, appeared more than 5,000 people,
00:04:10and so he read, shaking, that there were attending over 1 million people,
00:04:20and so I am going to refer to a case attached to this sector,
00:04:26he came, he was interviewed, and he brought three lawyers,
00:04:34and vice president brought two lawyers, and it happened the same with the others,
00:04:41to put into context why it is totally out of place,
00:04:48as the community delivered, to justify, to excuse,
00:04:53and at the same time to declare himself above the law, above authority, above the state,
00:05:02and having a privilege that, having a privilege that it is out of place,
00:05:12because he is an ordinary citizen, being, I recall being the director and lawyer,
00:05:21in the 1980s, 1990s, we directed to the authorities of the era,
00:05:29despite they practiced the terrorism of state, forced disappearances,
00:05:36the Caracazo, and the thousands that provoked thousands of thousands of deaths,
00:05:43we directed to them with a reading, with an official document, with a formality,
00:05:51grounded on reasons for the defense of those victims, of those hundreds of victims of that era,
00:06:03for example, the official authorities, the presidents of the republic, ministers,
00:06:10that were on that time, but we see that this minority sector, in its language,
00:06:21they intend to place in an environment, in a supra-territorial environment,
00:06:34so I refer to all of them, so they want us, all authorities of the country,
00:06:43they describe us as fools, in the case that they chanted fraud in a totally valid election,
00:07:00which have the results, despite the cyber attack, that a hacker even recognized of its authorship,
00:07:14to shut down the counting of the electoral system, for us to prevent to have an electoral system,
00:07:25and that was shown, the results were shown, it was proclaimed before the National Electoral Council,
00:07:35the winner, the president-elect Nicolás Maduro Amoros,
00:07:40and immediately they had already planned, during the whole 2024,
00:07:47I wonder, if you were to chant fraud, why did you submit to the presidential election?
00:07:57What for?
00:07:59Why do you put your face, and you go with witnesses,
00:08:06if you are doing so, you respect and validate the national electoral system,
00:08:15and so we cannot accept that after the results, you tore down the table with your far-right group,
00:08:25and you chant fraud, and then days afterwards, you just publish a website,
00:08:34and I am telling you very briefly, why we are in this legal situation,
00:08:40besides, they said that the July 28th excuse was to trigger a civil war, a bloodbath,
00:08:49they tried and they didn't achieve it, the state, in a day and a half,
00:08:54it stopped the terrorist plan, because I said something,
00:08:58they have a death dream, they dream, day and night, pray to the evil,
00:09:13for Venezuela to occur simultaneously, a popular uprising of millions of people,
00:09:22combined, mixed with the coup d'etat, they used the language of the revolutionary left-wing,
00:09:31of the whole era of the 1960s, of the Marxist generation of the 1960s,
00:09:39which were very brave, and if you are allegedly in a far-right position,
00:09:45they founded the American Silva, and they risked their lives,
00:09:54but they don't have military, they don't have the people,
00:09:58so they hired criminals, delinquents, for committing sabotages,
00:10:08attempts on the Venezuelan people, on men and women,
00:10:13so they are the intellectual authors, the masterminds of 27 Venezuelan deaths, murders,
00:10:24and so they have injured 190 Venezuelans,
00:10:29they attacked and destroyed 400 assets of the state,
00:10:34schools, universities, colleges, health facilities, educational facilities,
00:10:40in their plan that Venezuela would be like a rioting,
00:10:51so they called the people to rally against the state,
00:10:59for the police and military to go on a protest,
00:11:07so they validated the website,
00:11:11so many of them went to the page, to the site,
00:11:20and so they believed that people would believe that lie,
00:11:26so they even say that if you are outside and didn't vote,
00:11:32you can vote by means of this website,
00:11:36so it's a mockery to the people, to the international community,
00:11:41and so in previous press briefings, we have provided details,
00:11:46thoroughly, abided by law,
00:11:53so in the Council of State, we did it,
00:11:58before the diplomatic corps, we explained it,
00:12:04so what happened, I am describing very briefly,
00:12:09well it happens that who participates,
00:12:13who were to show face to submit for military rebelliousness,
00:12:29for the bloc, well they wanted to justify a military intervention,
00:12:37and so it is already started, and this plan has failed,
00:12:43they had a minimum time of euphoria,
00:12:48so they killed dozens of Venezuelans,
00:12:53who have parliamentary immunity,
00:12:58and I was kidnapped by some,
00:13:06President Hugo Chavez was about to be assassinated,
00:13:10that the first assassination attempt on this 25 years of revolution,
00:13:19and then they went to the oil war,
00:13:24and the assassination attempts against President Nicolás Maduro,
00:13:31so all of this, all of it failed in an absolute way,
00:13:39so the fraud, searching for coup d'etats, for uprisings,
00:13:46and the sabotage on the electric grid,
00:13:53out of the blue, they didn't commit any crimes,
00:14:01and the letter is something like that,
00:14:05I recognize your authority as an Attorney General of the Republic,
00:14:10as representative of the Public Prosecutor's Office,
00:14:15which has value, and it is what is added by this Attorney,
00:14:22but within the community,
00:14:26it occurred that citizen González Urrutia,
00:14:33makes justice by himself,
00:14:37he becomes a court prosecutor,
00:14:42defense attorney, and he claims to be innocent,
00:14:47he pleads to be innocent,
00:14:51and why didn't he come to the first summons,
00:14:55the second and the third,
00:14:57and so the letter said that he didn't appear,
00:15:01because he didn't know why he was investigated,
00:15:05of course you know, because I said it on the public community,
00:15:12so I want to highlight that on the meeting yesterday,
00:15:18I want to show the photo of the meeting,
00:15:21there you can see it on the screen,
00:15:23a photo that was known and disclosed,
00:15:28by the citizen, Jaro and the Prosecutor's Office,
00:15:35and the letter which was even signed and received by us,
00:15:41on that day,
00:15:45on that time in which we held talks,
00:15:51in presence of the Attorney who is leading the investigation,
00:15:55and I have to say the following,
00:15:59we have opened an investigation of a penal character,
00:16:04to render accountability of those who have threatened to kill,
00:16:13the Attorney who is leading the investigation,
00:16:16because we have 400 life threatening messages,
00:16:21who are they to do this, to expose his family,
00:16:25and these are hatred crimes,
00:16:31they have launched plenty of menaces,
00:16:39and we are not afraid,
00:16:42we are not going to surrender,
00:16:45and they are threatening humble people,
00:16:49from communes,
00:16:51for doing their job,
00:16:55and they killed two people attached to the PSVU,
00:17:01and they killed them,
00:17:03stabbed them to death,
00:17:07and they shot them down,
00:17:11and besides the other crimes we have mentioned,
00:17:16so we have received as I said,
00:17:19and we have a record figure,
00:17:21over 1.6 million people,
00:17:28in places and squares,
00:17:32in which the Police Prosecutor's Office has offices,
00:17:41so under that scheme was assisted,
00:17:47the representatives of Mundo Gonzales Rutia,
00:17:51so concerning the details of the letter,
00:17:55the Mundo Gonzales Rutia recognizes,
00:17:58the Venezuelan institutionality,
00:18:02he recognizes the Police Prosecutor's Office,
00:18:08because he represented the far-right opposition,
00:18:14and he boasted about being a diplomat,
00:18:18but a diplomat has to respect the state,
00:18:21and be at the service of the court,
00:18:26and present its affidavits,
00:18:36and so he proclaims to be president-elect in a letter,
00:18:45but he didn't do it again,
00:18:48let's see the letter here,
00:18:50it's signed by him,
00:18:55and so with its ID,
00:19:03and so he himself knows that he didn't win anything,
00:19:12but he was forced to do it,
00:19:14no sir, that is a crime,
00:19:19imagine that yourselves,
00:19:23you serve on a public,
00:19:27on an official function,
00:19:29and say that you are the justice of the court,
00:19:33and if any of you,
00:19:36of journalists here present,
00:19:38or cameramen said in a letter,
00:19:42that you are the president of the chain news,
00:19:48when you are a journalist,
00:19:50or a reporter,
00:19:51or a citizen for being a lawyer,
00:19:55signed the letter with its ID,
00:19:58and said entering prosecutor on a matter,
00:20:05well that's a crime,
00:20:06and that has to be investigated,
00:20:09why does he challenge the state,
00:20:13why didn't he appear before the summons of the electoral chamber,
00:20:20if all candidates appeared,
00:20:24including the re-elected president,
00:20:28and he warned that he was coming,
00:20:31and so this person is subjected to pressures,
00:20:38at the margin of law,
00:20:40he's being pressured,
00:20:41and he's being forced,
00:20:43and that letter he didn't write it,
00:20:47he was forced to put his signature,
00:20:51and so they want Venezuela to be on a pricing,
00:20:59and they are not going to achieve it,
00:21:02and so I want to highlight,
00:21:05that by recognizing the Venezuelan institutionality,
00:21:09citizen Edmundo Gonzalez Urrutia,
00:21:11reaffirms the existing conviction,
00:21:13that the public prosecutor's office is working positively,
00:21:17on the benefit of peace and justice,
00:21:21but the narrative that we already know,
00:21:26there are some data,
00:21:28that it's good to point out,
00:21:30for example,
00:21:31when the results are being disclosed,
00:21:36re-elected president Maduro,
00:21:40appeared as a winner,
00:21:43with 52% of votes,
00:21:46what did Urrutia do at that time,
00:21:51and he said not to know,
00:21:53but he disregarded the results,
00:21:56you submitted your name appears in several ballots,
00:22:04and you submitted your witnesses,
00:22:13but you disregarded the results,
00:22:16after having been submitted,
00:22:19after having accepted the rules of the game,
00:22:22another detail,
00:22:24the violence generated on July 29, 30,
00:22:30all those victims,
00:22:32the 90% of those deaths occurred on those two days,
00:22:3825 deaths,
00:22:40the two women heroines,
00:22:43that were murdered for hate,
00:22:48assassinated by,
00:22:50and they were attached to the chavism,
00:22:56and this was due to the content of electoral results,
00:23:06and they said let's pull a trigger,
00:23:14to trigger chaos on the country,
00:23:19and this was terrible,
00:23:21as it is already confirmed,
00:23:27journalists did not see,
00:23:32a spokesperson of the Tren del Llano gang,
00:23:37that he said in the protests,
00:23:42of this far-right wing,
00:23:46the police searched to curb those criminal acts,
00:23:52he said they were going to act,
00:23:56in defense of Edmundo Gonzalez Rutia,
00:23:59this has never been seen before,
00:24:02this is in those videos being broadcasted everywhere,
00:24:07even they were on a school in Huarico,
00:24:11and they dismantled the school with violent actions,
00:24:16but all of it was avoided in the due times,
00:24:21and so by those results,
00:24:25it was given in that context,
00:24:28the death of two officials of the National Guard,
00:24:37in two states,
00:24:40and there were 195 people,
00:24:4898 people of the aforementioned were civilians,
00:24:56so there were 100 injured to death,
00:25:02and we counted up 500 attacks,
00:25:07on educational facilities,
00:25:10health facilities,
00:25:13by the plot of Edmundo Gonzalez Rutia,
00:25:17having disregarded the results,
00:25:20and there is a detail that I want you to take notes about it,
00:25:26how come are they advocating for teenagers,
00:25:34most of those detained,
00:25:38being between 16 and 17,
00:25:42who are involved in violent acts,
00:25:45as they have been paid off $40,
00:25:50so these are mercenary NGOs,
00:26:00who are on the hunt of relatives,
00:26:03they are hunting relatives, harassing relatives,
00:26:09and we have the evidence,
00:26:11they delivered a model,
00:26:14in which they are forced to be the attorneys of those mercenary NGOs,
00:26:21who are bribed,
00:26:27who request that the authority,
00:26:36the only authority to sentence all these crimes,
00:26:41is the public prosecutor's office,
00:26:44so then after this is,
00:26:49we have been denouncing,
00:26:52and I am questioning,
00:26:55the vast majority,
00:26:57besides those teenagers,
00:27:01who affirmed us on the interviews,
00:27:07that they were paid off $30 to $40,
00:27:10to commit arson,
00:27:13and to do all crimes,
00:27:16and for all those crimes,
00:27:19it is the due process,
00:27:21and those who are not involved in those crimes,
00:27:28can be subjected to a review of measures,
00:27:32but those who are guilty,
00:27:34have to be accused,
00:27:37and be tried,
00:27:39so this is,
00:27:41I am just clarifying a little bit,
00:27:43the big question is that,
00:27:45when we interviewed the youngsters,
00:27:47the vast majority,
00:27:5070% of the detainees,
00:27:54if you voted,
00:27:56they said no,
00:27:58they didn't vote,
00:28:00and many of them said,
00:28:02they are not even submitted,
00:28:08so in their mind,
00:28:10you see the evil,
00:28:12how they caught youngsters,
00:28:18youngsters who didn't even vote,
00:28:20for a legally protest,
00:28:23for an electoral result,
00:28:26but they don't even care,
00:28:28because you don't vote,
00:28:31you are not interested in the elections,
00:28:34so how come are you going to rally against it,
00:28:38you were hired,
00:28:41you were provided some drugs,
00:28:44to commit some violent acts,
00:28:47and this is very painful,
00:28:49this is outrageous,
00:28:51they didn't present a single case,
00:28:54binding to a violation of human rights,
00:29:00in the case of dead and injured,
00:29:02attached to any state corp,
00:29:08they haven't presented,
00:29:12they haven't shown any lawsuits,
00:29:17because there is anyone,
00:29:22so we process it,
00:29:24if there is any claim,
00:29:27because you know the figure,
00:29:33of the officials,
00:29:35who have been betraying,
00:29:38the state of Venezuela,
00:29:40the worst thing is the following,
00:29:42that they use the narrative,
00:29:44that the real defenders,
00:29:50of human rights have used,
00:29:52do you know how many women,
00:29:55and children have killed in Gaza,
00:29:57of the 40,000 killed,
00:30:00the vast majority are,
00:30:03newly born children,
00:30:05pregnant women,
00:30:07and they didn't talk about that,
00:30:10I want that to be counted up,
00:30:17on the coverage,
00:30:21of how many children,
00:30:23and women are in prison,
00:30:26or are being murdered,
00:30:28in Palestine,
00:30:30I want you to tell me,
00:30:34how many coverages,
00:30:36have you made,
00:30:38with figures of minors,
00:30:40murdered,
00:30:42slaughtered,
00:30:44in prisons,
00:30:46in Palestine,
00:30:48anyone,
00:30:50any report about that,
00:30:52and those who,
00:30:55and how many coverages,
00:30:57about those families,
00:30:59being split up,
00:31:00in the United States border,
00:31:02how many coverages,
00:31:04have you done,
00:31:06about that affair,
00:31:08but when you use,
00:31:10when they use a teenager,
00:31:12a 16 or 17 year old,
00:31:14to commit violent criminal acts,
00:31:17that they are paid off,
00:31:20there you start the narrative,
00:31:25because you don't have,
00:31:27nothing to show,
00:31:29and as they don't want,
00:31:32nothing to show,
00:31:34they are manipulating,
00:31:36and that's why I denounce it,
00:31:40since I was 15 years old,
00:31:43I am in compliance with the law,
00:31:47I am defending justice,
00:31:50so we are denouncing,
00:31:53for the world,
00:31:54and we will do it,
00:31:55in the places,
00:31:57being the United Nations,
00:31:59the IPC,
00:32:04to tell our truth,
00:32:07so all of this,
00:32:10that I have been mentioning,
00:32:12the non-appearance,
00:32:14what it implies,
00:32:17it implies three summons,
00:32:19of not appearing,
00:32:25the content of the court,
00:32:29when he didn't appear,
00:32:31to the Supreme Court of Justice,
00:32:35and you see the meeting,
00:32:37yesterday was an institutional meeting,
00:32:40a respectful meeting,
00:32:43because this public prosecutor's office,
00:32:46was different from the ones before,
00:32:49because earlier,
00:32:54the prosecutor,
00:32:56seemed to be a police officer,
00:32:59who was going to arrest you,
00:33:03because that was a repressive arm,
00:33:08that was terrifying,
00:33:10and I lived through it,
00:33:12in the 1970s,
00:33:15and it was a repressive force,
00:33:18it was a terrorism of the state,
00:33:21and we have demonstrated different things,
00:33:25that's why he comes here,
00:33:30and he is received,
00:33:33and over 1.6 million people,
00:33:37have come to the public prosecutor's office,
00:33:39in these 25 years,
00:33:42and on July 31st,
00:33:46President Maduro,
00:33:49presented a contentious appeal,
00:33:52for presidential elections,
00:33:55being audited,
00:33:58being investigated,
00:34:00he opened a process of audition,
00:34:02for any regularities,
00:34:04and that was the time,
00:34:06the one who doesn't owe anything,
00:34:11is not afraid,
00:34:13and there,
00:34:15representatives of parties,
00:34:17appeared,
00:34:18Cartaya,
00:34:19Manuel Rosales,
00:34:21Jose Vicente,
00:34:23who came,
00:34:25with other party representatives,
00:34:27and they said,
00:34:28they didn't have the tally sheets,
00:34:31so who are you talking about then?
00:34:35The tally sheets,
00:34:37that appeared on that website,
00:34:40that you put an ID,
00:34:43and there was a park,
00:34:46so that's unbelievable,
00:34:49that's ridiculous,
00:34:51and so,
00:34:53that has to do with,
00:34:55why he didn't show,
00:34:57he didn't appear,
00:34:59to the summons,
00:35:00and there's a link,
00:35:02that is called,
00:35:04which I have referred,
00:35:06it was disclosed by,
00:35:08Mr. Citizen,
00:35:09Edmundo Gonzalez Urrutia,
00:35:11and he validated,
00:35:12that website,
00:35:14that forged,
00:35:16fake website,
00:35:18totally out of legality,
00:35:21and so we,
00:35:23on August 7th,
00:35:27on the grounds that he disseminated,
00:35:29that fraudulent website,
00:35:31providing fake,
00:35:34electoral results,
00:35:36I remember being interviewed,
00:35:38by a Mexican journalist,
00:35:41Fernando Rico,
00:35:43at the moment,
00:35:44we were on the chamber,
00:35:47seeing what was happening,
00:35:50and there,
00:35:53Urrutia was coming out,
00:35:56shaking,
00:35:57and the lady,
00:35:59and they said,
00:36:00that they,
00:36:02won 72% of the votes,
00:36:05and Fernando Rico said,
00:36:07oh that's hard to believe,
00:36:10don't exaggerate,
00:36:13well at least have some decency,
00:36:16and so it was,
00:36:18said by someone,
00:36:20who is characterized to be,
00:36:23opponent to this Venezuelan state,
00:36:25but they believe,
00:36:27that their play,
00:36:30was going to be,
00:36:32well,
00:36:33was going to be right,
00:36:35and so there's,
00:36:37an investigation,
00:36:39to determine the responsibility,
00:36:41of the case,
00:36:42before the publication,
00:36:44of the website,
00:36:45and third,
00:36:47resultus.com,
00:36:49it's that the page,
00:36:51the website,
00:36:52which was,
00:36:54deleted by themselves,
00:36:56and then,
00:36:57people if you are,
00:36:59in Washington,
00:37:01in Finland,
00:37:03and they said,
00:37:04that if you are in Finland,
00:37:06in the United States,
00:37:07or in any other country,
00:37:09go to the website,
00:37:11and vote for the elections,
00:37:13and so it is,
00:37:15it is,
00:37:17the completely out of the law,
00:37:19and so they,
00:37:21while they are discovered,
00:37:24they are,
00:37:26divided,
00:37:28running away,
00:37:30all that sector,
00:37:32because the people,
00:37:33the international community,
00:37:35know that,
00:37:37everything that I am telling,
00:37:39is true and real.
00:37:42We informed,
00:37:43on that communique,
00:37:45that we open an investigation,
00:37:49because it was intended,
00:37:51to usurp,
00:37:52the official functions,
00:37:54of the National Electoral Council,
00:37:56triggering,
00:37:58uncertainty to the population,
00:38:00and in that communique,
00:38:02we informed that,
00:38:04the crimes were,
00:38:05usurpation of official functions,
00:38:08counterfeiting official documents,
00:38:10appalling incitement to disobedience of the law,
00:38:13cyber crimes,
00:38:15criminalization,
00:38:16and conspiracy,
00:38:17and what does it imply?
00:38:19That people,
00:38:21have to go,
00:38:23well,
00:38:24he disseminated,
00:38:26on the social media,
00:38:28as a former presidential candidate,
00:38:31and so he has to explain,
00:38:32why did,
00:38:34why did he,
00:38:35disseminated that,
00:38:37that missing,
00:38:39that misinformation,
00:38:41and he bought,
00:38:43that website in Amazon,
00:38:45and then,
00:38:46he had already,
00:38:48said all this,
00:38:50because,
00:38:51since 1999,
00:38:53they are saying,
00:38:54they are chanting fraud,
00:38:56and why,
00:38:57why did he,
00:38:59submit to the elections,
00:39:01the plan was to,
00:39:03lead to a bloodbath,
00:39:05to a chaos,
00:39:06to a crisis,
00:39:07that they didn't achieve,
00:39:09so,
00:39:10all were,
00:39:11all appeared,
00:39:13on August 17,
00:39:15except for,
00:39:17González Urrutia,
00:39:20he,
00:39:22he committed contempt of the court,
00:39:25because he was supposed to,
00:39:28to deliver the affidavits,
00:39:31or tally sheets,
00:39:32and,
00:39:34the electoral results,
00:39:36you said that you,
00:39:38got,
00:39:40100 million votes,
00:39:42and why didn't you do it,
00:39:44that was the time,
00:39:45and so the,
00:39:48the,
00:39:49the results issued,
00:39:50by the National Electoral Council,
00:39:52was back,
00:39:53backed up,
00:39:54by all the electoral machines,
00:39:56and then we,
00:40:00in the,
00:40:01matters regarding,
00:40:02regarding the,
00:40:04cyber crimes,
00:40:05and,
00:40:06maintenance of the website,
00:40:08resultals.com,
00:40:10well,
00:40:11after all these,
00:40:14crimes,
00:40:15González Urrutia,
00:40:17was,
00:40:18summoned to,
00:40:20appear,
00:40:21was summoned,
00:40:22to appear,
00:40:23to the public prosecutor's office,
00:40:25several,
00:40:26three times,
00:40:27on August,
00:40:2926,
00:40:30on,
00:40:31then,
00:40:32on August 30,
00:40:34and then,
00:40:35he didn't,
00:40:36he didn't appear,
00:40:37and so that's why,
00:40:39the public prosecutor's office,
00:40:42issued an arrest warrant,
00:40:45by,
00:40:46abided by the law,
00:40:48what immunity,
00:40:50can have,
00:40:52the,
00:40:53the citizens who,
00:40:55disregarded summons,
00:40:57and if you don't,
00:40:59appear,
00:41:00you have to be requested,
00:41:02by justice,
00:41:03to appear,
00:41:04and that's,
00:41:05an interesting point,
00:41:08he said,
00:41:09that he agreed,
00:41:11on,
00:41:13the appearance of,
00:41:14González Urrutia,
00:41:17because there is,
00:41:18some guarantees,
00:41:20there's a system of guarantees,
00:41:23and if you are,
00:41:24a person able to be,
00:41:26candidate,
00:41:27and then you,
00:41:29lost elections,
00:41:30and you are,
00:41:32subjected to an investigation,
00:41:34you have to,
00:41:35appear,
00:41:36and the attorney,
00:41:38confirmed,
00:41:39that he,
00:41:40advised his client,
00:41:42to,
00:41:44come to the,
00:41:45public prosecutor's office,
00:41:47but he said,
00:41:48that people,
00:41:50that other people,
00:41:51prevented him,
00:41:53and pressed him,
00:41:55to not,
00:41:56appear,
00:41:58how disgusting,
00:42:00is to,
00:42:02to listen to something,
00:42:03that it's already known,
00:42:06who are you,
00:42:07to prevent,
00:42:09and to force,
00:42:10a person,
00:42:11to not come,
00:42:13he confessed me,
00:42:15he confessed to me,
00:42:16that,
00:42:17González Urrutia,
00:42:18wanting to go,
00:42:19to the Supreme Court of Justice,
00:42:21but other far right,
00:42:23people,
00:42:24order him not to come,
00:42:27and so,
00:42:28if we are speaking about,
00:42:30what was held,
00:42:32in the meeting yesterday,
00:42:33these are revealing details,
00:42:35and now,
00:42:37this,
00:42:38causes,
00:42:40pity,
00:42:41because,
00:42:42in my condition,
00:42:43as an attorney general,
00:42:45of the republic,
00:42:46I have to teach,
00:42:48lessons,
00:42:49to,
00:42:50people,
00:42:51who proclaim,
00:42:53jury's,
00:42:54professionals,
00:42:55but,
00:42:56are,
00:42:59are there,
00:43:00at the outskirts,
00:43:01of a,
00:43:02jury of,
00:43:04a prison,
00:43:05they want,
00:43:06in a desperate way,
00:43:07to,
00:43:08to,
00:43:09to come out,
00:43:10in his defense,
00:43:11and,
00:43:12this is something,
00:43:13really,
00:43:14well,
00:43:15the,
00:43:16the one,
00:43:17the illiterate,
00:43:19for not studying,
00:43:20it's okay,
00:43:21but,
00:43:22the one,
00:43:24the one,
00:43:25who is,
00:43:27has a double,
00:43:30quality,
00:43:32negative quality,
00:43:33because,
00:43:34see,
00:43:35let's see,
00:43:36the,
00:43:37public prosecutor's office,
00:43:38has the,
00:43:39quality,
00:43:40and,
00:43:41the same as,
00:43:43the attorney general,
00:43:44of the republic,
00:43:45because the,
00:43:46jurisdiction is,
00:43:48within the constitution,
00:43:49and the organic law,
00:43:50and so,
00:43:52we can't interview,
00:43:53the people,
00:43:54who may be,
00:43:56subject,
00:43:58who may be,
00:44:00who may be useful,
00:44:02for the investigation,
00:44:03in quality,
00:44:04of,
00:44:05witnesses,
00:44:07or,
00:44:08any other forms,
00:44:09so,
00:44:10we have to explain,
00:44:11this once,
00:44:13many times,
00:44:14because,
00:44:16he claimed,
00:44:17that I don't,
00:44:18he didn't,
00:44:19he didn't know,
00:44:21why I was summoned,
00:44:22and sir,
00:44:23if you have,
00:44:24an arrest warrant,
00:44:25you have to explain,
00:44:27why you are,
00:44:29issuing that,
00:44:31and,
00:44:32it was about,
00:44:3316 pages,
00:44:34the arrest warrant,
00:44:35and so,
00:44:36the,
00:44:37prosecutor's office,
00:44:38is accusing,
00:44:39and that,
00:44:40only,
00:44:41corresponds to a,
00:44:42court,
00:44:43where did you graduate,
00:44:45in which,
00:44:47primary school,
00:44:48did you study,
00:44:49law,
00:44:50to,
00:44:51to say,
00:44:52such barbarism,
00:44:56to show yourself,
00:44:57as,
00:44:58attorneys,
00:44:59as,
00:45:00you don't,
00:45:01practice law,
00:45:03with,
00:45:04because,
00:45:05you don't,
00:45:06you haven't,
00:45:07come to,
00:45:08to police stations,
00:45:09or to,
00:45:10courts,
00:45:11you don't know the,
00:45:12the logics of,
00:45:13law,
00:45:14the,
00:45:15you don't apply,
00:45:16anything about,
00:45:17expertise,
00:45:18experience,
00:45:19and so,
00:45:20you are going to go,
00:45:21to the prosecutor's office,
00:45:22and to teach,
00:45:23some lessons,
00:45:24to this,
00:45:25prestigious,
00:45:27body,
00:45:28of high level,
00:45:30it cannot be,
00:45:31we,
00:45:32issued,
00:45:33the,
00:45:34summons,
00:45:35in compliance,
00:45:36with the article,
00:45:37four of the,
00:45:38Bolivarian constitution,
00:45:40toward,
00:45:41the,
00:45:42the,
00:45:43necessary,
00:45:44delegiencies,
00:45:46in the,
00:45:48article,
00:45:49and organic,
00:45:50of the organic law,
00:45:52as,
00:45:53we received,
00:45:54an allegation,
00:45:56and so,
00:45:57we have to,
00:45:58to assess,
00:45:59on due time,
00:46:00and place,
00:46:02to,
00:46:03to,
00:46:04investigate,
00:46:05how these,
00:46:06incidents occur,
00:46:08so the,
00:46:09we have the,
00:46:10the jurisdiction,
00:46:12and we already said it,
00:46:13on the meeting,
00:46:15to order,
00:46:16direct,
00:46:17and supervise,
00:46:18everything related,
00:46:19to,
00:46:21crimes,
00:46:23and so,
00:46:25with,
00:46:27with the,
00:46:29we have,
00:46:30we have the ability,
00:46:31to,
00:46:32open investigations,
00:46:33of the,
00:46:34crimes,
00:46:35to demonstrate,
00:46:36the,
00:46:37punishable acts,
00:46:39and establish,
00:46:41the responsibility,
00:46:42of the,
00:46:43authors,
00:46:44of the,
00:46:45defendants,
00:46:48and so,
00:46:49obviously,
00:46:50among the activities,
00:46:51of the prosecutor's office,
00:46:53are the interviews,
00:46:54of people,
00:46:56are bind,
00:46:57are bind,
00:46:58attached to,
00:47:00any crimes,
00:47:01in such way,
00:47:02that the summons,
00:47:04issued,
00:47:05to the,
00:47:06sir,
00:47:07Gonzales Rutia,
00:47:08are,
00:47:09abided by law,
00:47:10and,
00:47:11so,
00:47:12by refusing to,
00:47:14appear,
00:47:16mister,
00:47:17Gonzales Rutia,
00:47:18is,
00:47:19obstructing,
00:47:20the investigation,
00:47:21because,
00:47:22he's been forced,
00:47:23one of the,
00:47:25delegiencies,
00:47:26that,
00:47:27a,
00:47:28attorney,
00:47:29that this attorney,
00:47:30was,
00:47:31was to convince him,
00:47:32to appear,
00:47:33because,
00:47:34it is,
00:47:35still in force,
00:47:36the,
00:47:37the summons,
00:47:38so,
00:47:39to finish,
00:47:40I have summoned,
00:47:41in other,
00:47:43earlier,
00:47:44interviews,
00:47:47I say,
00:47:48I cited,
00:47:49the case,
00:47:50the remarkable,
00:47:51a case,
00:47:52in which,
00:47:53a,
00:47:54presidents,
00:47:55have been summoned,
00:47:56and they have appeared,
00:47:57the,
00:47:58lately,
00:47:59a,
00:48:00case,
00:48:01is,
00:48:02of Donald Trump,
00:48:03being former president,
00:48:04and,
00:48:05presidential candidate,
00:48:07has been,
00:48:08tried,
00:48:09for committing,
00:48:1034 crimes,
00:48:11and,
00:48:12he had to,
00:48:13appear,
00:48:14to all the,
00:48:15courts,
00:48:16over 20,
00:48:18because,
00:48:19if,
00:48:20he didn't do it,
00:48:22he do,
00:48:23they would,
00:48:24issue,
00:48:25an arrest warrant,
00:48:26against him,
00:48:27so,
00:48:28the Jew,
00:48:29Jew,
00:48:30broadcasted,
00:48:31those,
00:48:32those appearances,
00:48:33he can do it,
00:48:34but,
00:48:35González Urrutia,
00:48:36cannot,
00:48:37because,
00:48:38González Urrutia,
00:48:39is on the,
00:48:40margin,
00:48:41of who is,
00:48:42of who is,
00:48:43his,
00:48:44example,
00:48:46the United States,
00:48:47and he,
00:48:48the,
00:48:49his,
00:48:50his authorities,
00:48:51the,
00:48:52the Trump case,
00:48:53can,
00:48:54appear,
00:48:55but,
00:48:56González Urrutia,
00:48:57cannot do it,
00:48:58because he is,
00:48:59an alien,
00:49:00and so,
00:49:01another case,
00:49:02who's worthy to mention,
00:49:03is the case of,
00:49:04Daniel Hadway,
00:49:05is the,
00:49:06most important politician,
00:49:07most representative,
00:49:08left-wing politician,
00:49:09in Chile,
00:49:10Hadway,
00:49:11was,
00:49:12sentenced,
00:49:13to,
00:49:14three years,
00:49:15in prison,
00:49:16for,
00:49:17committing,
00:49:18three crimes,
00:49:19regarding,
00:49:20for,
00:49:21providing,
00:49:22his people,
00:49:23on,
00:49:24with,
00:49:25popular pharmacies,
00:49:26and for being,
00:49:27a menace,
00:49:28to,
00:49:29the,
00:49:30Pinochet,
00:49:31Pinochet regime,
00:49:32of Boris,
00:49:33because,
00:49:34he is an agent,
00:49:35of CIA,
00:49:36and has,
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00:55:29make a lot of noise with your motorbikes while you are
00:55:32burning down places.
00:55:34And so they were claiming that detained person come and pay us.
00:55:41We did our job.
00:55:42And so part of that you incite to burn down a mayor's office,
00:55:53and then you didn't pay them off.
00:55:55And it is something very surrealist.
00:55:59It is a theater performance, very mockery.
00:56:07And so on due time, we are going to present it
00:56:09at the United Nations of how these crimes happened
00:56:14in Venezuela.
00:56:15Go ahead, please.
00:56:17Good afternoon.
00:56:20So Telesur journalist, Guillermo Garcia, will ask you.
00:56:29Thank you very much.
00:56:32From Telesur, well, there are several things
00:56:36that I have collected, chatting with some colleagues here.
00:56:41One of them have come out on social media
00:56:46a material about the publication on X on July 29.
00:56:52Edmundo Gonzalez, he said, Venezuelan on this link,
00:56:59you can change the history of Venezuela with your vote.
00:57:05Here you will find the Italian sheets.
00:57:07Till so far, we have processed it.
00:57:14And it calls my attention, there you, come on,
00:57:20show it to the camera man.
00:57:25There you see it.
00:57:29Granted on that expertise, on this, well, it is,
00:57:42and it appears the link to the website resultos.com.
00:57:52And so Edmundo Gonzalez recognizing on a website
00:57:56that they could consult his triumph.
00:58:01And so this could be used for the processing.
00:58:07And so another thing is that it calls the attention
00:58:10that you were a judicial witness on the electoral chamber.
00:58:16And you were present in all processes attached
00:58:20to that investigation in which the Supreme Court of Justice
00:58:25ratified the elections.
00:58:29And so then the citizen Edmundo Gonzalez Urrutia
00:58:34recognized your jurisdiction, but he
00:58:38didn't recognize that you were present
00:58:41on the electoral chamber.
00:58:42And so there is a contradiction.
00:58:45He recognized you as the prosecutor's office,
00:58:48but not as a witness on the Supreme Court of Justice.
00:58:53And so Edmundo Gonzalez commits a contempt of the court
00:59:01before the electoral chamber.
00:59:02And now he disregarded your summons too.
00:59:06And so what judicial quality, what judicial condition
00:59:13is Edmundo Gonzalez?
00:59:16On the other side, the attorney who
00:59:20came out of the meeting implying several things that
00:59:25calls the attention that, well, he
00:59:29said we have to clarify that Gonzalez Urrutia has nothing
00:59:32to do with this website.
00:59:34He said the unitary platform was the responsible for it.
00:59:40So he's getting apart from the far right opposition sectors
00:59:46that the same Maria Corina Machado said it was like that.
00:59:51And so what's his condition on this contest?
00:59:55Well, you are referring to some interviews
01:00:01that he provided.
01:00:05He came out and he said, I want to clarify
01:00:10that Edmundo Gonzalez has nothing
01:00:11to do with the website.
01:00:14And so he said there was an agreement
01:00:20to not visit the house of the wife.
01:00:26And so it is something outrageous.
01:00:31There was no agreement.
01:00:33There was no existence of this because the public prosecutor's
01:00:40office, authority of the penal action,
01:00:44would come to visit the house of Gonzalez Urrutia's wife
01:00:51because the one who's investigated,
01:00:54who is subjected to the arrest warrant, is him, not her.
01:00:59So don't use scapegoats to want to escalate in a situation.
01:01:06So they are capable of everything.
01:01:09I clarify to you that we never, this prosecutor's office,
01:01:15has never as an objective situation
01:01:22of investigating the wife of Edmundo Gonzalez Urrutia.
01:01:29So they are searching something evil with this,
01:01:33but they don't achieve it because this
01:01:36is a state of respect.
01:01:38We respect human rights, constitutional guarantees,
01:01:43not like them.
01:01:44Let's say that what they did on April 12, 13,
01:01:51they wanted to promote a civil war, an oil attempt,
01:01:59sabotage, not to mention the over 900 sanctions.
01:02:05And for the sanctions, lots of people have died in hospitals.
01:02:14Some people have minimized salaries
01:02:17because of the sanctions.
01:02:19And they used this and boasted about being
01:02:26lots of migrants.
01:02:29And this is part of the hybrid war, using judicial means.
01:02:38As they haven't achieved a coup d'etat,
01:02:42they have used hate crimes to generate a division
01:02:48in the country.
01:02:49And with the sanctions, it is studied
01:02:52on the manuals of the hybrid world.
01:02:56With more sanctions, they search for an exodus of migrants
01:03:01to cause chaos and destruction.
01:03:04And then justifying the taking office by power, by force.
01:03:17So do you recall in 1999, from 1999 to 2015,
01:03:27when Obama launches that decree, placing Venezuela
01:03:32as an unleashed country, a menace for the United States,
01:03:39which was an excuse for the sanctions, which
01:03:46Donald Trump took it to the maximum level.
01:03:50And so when did you see it?
01:03:52When it started the policy of sanctions against Venezuela.
01:04:00So those who divided the family were they,
01:04:03by promoting global sanctions of any kinds against our country.
01:04:09Therefore, those who said after the meeting has no real grounds
01:04:23and I am narrating on judicial terms,
01:04:32his situation is worsening because he's
01:04:36been summoned three times and the arrest warrant,
01:04:41the apprehension order is enforced because on several.
01:04:48So it is like a judicial representative.
01:04:54I have never seen a thing like this.
01:04:57But the attorney, the representative
01:05:02said he will give the message as for Gonzalez-Urrutia recognizes
01:05:12the jurisdiction of the prosecutor's office.
01:05:16So if you recognize this prosecutor's office,
01:05:20that answer of the lawful state, you have to appear.
01:05:27You have to be interviewed.
01:05:31You have to respond to the interrogation.
01:05:36And it is what you have to do.
01:05:38And so after the fake website, it is initiated this investigation.
01:05:46And he endorsed it without any backup.
01:05:51And so in the letter, he said he claimed
01:05:56that he has nothing to do with the page, with the website,
01:06:05because that website is a mockery.
01:06:08Because you just click to a button and then you
01:06:12appeared on the Tokyo Park on the.
01:06:17So is it a serious website?
01:06:21And so then there he put the names of deceased people
01:06:27as this was revealed.
01:06:30He claimed that he has nothing to do with that website, that
01:06:35were others.
01:06:37But why did he disseminated the website?
01:06:43And so they said that they won't talk anymore
01:06:49about the tally sheets, of course.
01:06:52Because before they said tally sheets kill votes.
01:07:02It is always changing on this trap.
01:07:06And so as it is a fraudulent tally sheet,
01:07:11they, when you are not, even though you are not submitted,
01:07:20come to this website and come to the streets to protest.
01:07:27And so they themselves don't come out.
01:07:29So I would end up by saying, it is my message,
01:07:33that it is time for healing wounds.
01:07:36It is time for dialogue.
01:07:37It is time for justice.
01:07:40It is time for non-impunity.
01:07:42It is time for citizenship coexistence.
01:07:46And undoubtedly, I said, Venezuela
01:07:51comes out strengthening its democracy
01:07:53and its state of laws and its status
01:07:57of protecting before the international community.
01:08:03Thank you very much.
01:08:06And we were listening to the Venezuelan Attorney General,
01:08:09Tarek William Saab, who offered statements
01:08:12on the case of Rutia, Gonzalez-Rutia,
01:08:16former presidential candidate.
01:08:17He commented the case of the candidate
01:08:20of the far-right opposition, who is facing possible charges
01:08:26of different criminals, like usurpation of functions,
01:08:29forgery of official documents, and cyber crimes, among others.
01:08:33According to the Attorney General,
01:08:34Gonzalez-Rutia's lawyer presented a letter
01:08:37acknowledging the Venezuelan justice system,
01:08:39but denied direct links to the mentioned crimes,
01:08:42although William Saab detailed that there
01:08:45is evidence to show links, for example,
01:08:47to the website that publicly showed forged documents,
01:08:50and also falsely declared Gonzalez as president-elect,
01:08:53who also signed documents making use of this false position,
01:08:58all of which constitute different crimes.
01:09:00Saab also highlighted that Gonzalez did not
01:09:03acknowledge the official results from the very beginning
01:09:06of the electoral process, also inciting
01:09:09to violent acts in the country.
01:09:11In this way, Saab described Gonzalez-Rutia
01:09:14as a pressured agent who other powers are
01:09:16forcing to act in order to threaten Venezuela's peace.
01:09:20In this context, the Attorney General
01:09:22ended by ratifying the summon to Rutia
01:09:25to appear before the prosecutor's office
01:09:27in the ongoing investigation.
01:09:29We will continue bringing you the latest updates
01:09:31on Venezuela and the world in upcoming news briefs.
01:09:34Stay tuned with Telus for English.