Season 8, ericagore_
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00:00Ricky, Charlene, what happened?
00:05Did the guy get away?
00:06No, he's still in there.
00:08I really don't have it, though.
00:11Is he alright?
00:12Yeah, he'll be fine. Come take a look.
00:20Oh my God.
00:23We need to get him to a hospital.
00:27I'm going to call the police.
00:31Charlene and I are in our room watching TV.
00:34And this guy just busted.
00:41Is this who you chose?
00:43You chose him over me?
00:45You wouldn't even talk to me at the bar.
00:46No, I don't.
00:47I can't believe it's you.
00:49The meathead from the club, huh?
00:51Get the hell out of my room.
00:52I'm not going to get out. You know that she's a slut.
00:54According to Ricky, he had absolutely no idea who this individual was.
00:59This person simply broke into their room and started verbally chastising Charlene for no apparent reason.
01:06You know that she's a slut.
01:13He really scared her. I thought he was going to hurt her.
01:15Is this truly an act of self-defense that got way out of hand?
01:19Or was this a premeditated attack?
01:22So Ricky claims this guy just barged in.
01:24Mm-hmm.
01:25Any signs of forced entry?
01:27Uh...
01:31Nope, doesn't look like it.
01:33Think they left the door unlocked?
01:35In this neighborhood?
01:36That'd be crazy.
01:38True.
01:39We're considering what was said to us, and it's not adding up very well.
01:45In hopes of learning more about what happened,
01:48Kenda and Moore turned to their only eyewitness.
01:51Charlene.
01:52Charlene Kruzmark.
01:53I don't even know Ricky.
01:54We've been dating a couple years.
01:56We just moved from Oklahoma City about a month ago.
02:00Are you working anywhere?
02:02I'm a dancer down at Queens Court.
02:04Ricky works there, too. He's a bouncer.
02:07Queens Court.
02:08That is a strip bar located within walking distance of this motel.
02:13How do you remember things playing out tonight?
02:15Well, we were just hanging out, watching TV.
02:18I had asked Ricky to go get some cigarettes.
02:21And a few minutes after he had left, some guy came storming in, harassing me.
02:28She really felt that our victim was going to do some type of harm to her.
02:33I was so scared, but luckily Ricky came in and humbled the guy.
02:39So you're saying that Ricky was definitely out getting cigarettes when this man came in?
02:43Yeah.
02:45Well, that's completely different from what Ricky says.
02:47Ricky says he was in the room with Charlene when this person entered without consent.
02:53All right. Thank you.
03:00Why don't you take these two downtown? Make sure you keep them separate.
03:05If there is a hairline crack in two stories, drive a wedge through that crack and see where it leads you.
03:11It may lead you to the truth.
03:13What are you thinking?
03:14There's a history here they don't want us to know about.
03:16To me and to Sergeant Pender, it was a clear possibility that there was an ongoing relationship.
03:23And certainly that raised flags also for motive as to what may have taken place.
03:32So you got your money back?
03:34Could there have possibly been a prearrangement with our victim and Charlene for some type of relationship to take place?
03:41How much does it cost?
03:43Well, how much you got.
03:45It's possible Charlene and Ricky lured Michael into their room under false pretenses.
03:52What the f**k is this, man?
03:53This is me taking your wallet. Get the f**k out of here.
03:55Give me my money.
04:03Sergeant.
04:16That was an unwritten rule that Ricky should not have been there when Charlene was dancing.
04:23They didn't want any problems to take place if someone were to do something inappropriate.
04:38Kenda and Moore decide to put the pressure on Charlene Kruesmark.
04:42Hello, Sergeant.
04:43Charlene Kruesmark.
04:45Hello, Charlene.
04:46Where's Ricky?
04:49He's on his way to county.
04:51I suggest you tell us exactly what happened last night unless you want to join him.
04:54We already know you lied to us.
04:57We told Charlene that it was in her interest to now tell us the truth.
05:01How exactly did Michael Allen end up in your room last night?
05:05She collapsed immediately. I said, let me tell you what happened.
05:08When Ricky and I were coming back from Queens Court last night, we ran into this guy in the parking lot.
05:15We had never met him before, but he and Ricky really hit it off.
05:19Hey, man.
05:20Hey, how's it going?
05:21You're from Queens, right?
05:22Queens Court?
05:23Yeah, how's it going?
05:24Hey, it's good to see you.
05:26Ah, Michael.
05:27Hey, dude.
05:28What do you got in there?
05:29A little Kentucky whiskey, man.
05:32Babe, let's go inside. I'm getting cold.
05:34Alright.
05:35Okay.
05:36Oh, actually, hey, why don't you bring that inside and we hang out a little bit?
05:41Alright, man. Sounds good.
05:42Cool. We'll put on a movie.
05:45So Michael came into the room, and all three of them sat around and drank.
05:51He's hilarious.
05:52He just came in there banging on the door, and he was like, you're an idiot!
05:58We were just hanging out, having fun, but I kept getting a really weird vibe from the guy.
06:06He kept eyeing me and creeping me out.
06:11Then he pulled out his wallet.
06:13So, how much?
06:16For what?
06:18For the lady.
06:20What the f*** do you mean?
06:22Come on, dude. I know she's a hooker. Maybe she prefers to escort.
06:27What?
06:28I thought she was a prostitute.
06:31Charlene says that Ricky goes crazy.
06:44Ricky, stop!
06:46He continues to beat the victim until Michael collapses on the floor.
06:52Stop it!
06:54Then she says that Ricky sits on his chest
07:02and pounds his fists into his face repeatedly.
07:06Ricky, stop!
07:12I think it's very possible that Ricky watching the activities of Charlene with all the clientele
07:20could be an indicator of why Ricky had such rage later on.
07:30Stop it!
07:33Think about it. If Ricky has been tamping it down as he watches Charlene dance,
07:41that may have been the last straw.
07:45And finally, Ricky stops.
07:56I know Ricky didn't mean to kill him. He's a good person.
08:02She lied to protect Ricky, believing that Michael would survive.
08:07I think Ricky thought the same. I don't think Ricky intended to kill him.
08:11I don't even believe it would kill him. But it did.
08:15We appreciate your level of witness. We'll show you out.
08:23Ricky Lutz is convicted of manslaughter.