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00:00Hello, and welcome.
00:00You're watching this brand new episode of Editors' Roundtable
00:04here on One India, as we promised you
00:06to bring voices of the editors from all across the country.
00:09And this time around, we are also joined by one
00:11of our editors who is right now in Canada,
00:14although in Ontario.
00:15Dee Jackson on your screen is joining us
00:18from Ontario, Canada.
00:19Avinash Sharma is the editor of MyGale.
00:22Ajay Mohan is the editor of Native Planet and Career India.
00:26And Kalpesh Kandoriya, a face that you
00:28see in all the episodes of Roundtable,
00:31joining us from Gujarat, the editor of One India Gujarati.
00:35Avinash, I want to start with you first, without much ado.
00:40Saturday is the time when India goes
00:42into the third successive World Cup ICC finals.
00:47So this time around, what is it that we can expect from India?
00:50Because time and again, the memories
00:52of last year's World Cup final is something
00:57that we would want to forget.
00:59But what do you have in store for us from Indian side?
01:02Pankaj, it's palpable excitement amongst Indian cricket fans.
01:07Not just Indian fans, in fact, the entire sporting fraternity
01:10in India is now backing Team India
01:12to finally end the 11-year-long drought of an ICC trophy
01:18victory.
01:18And we hope that Team India, this Indian side,
01:21which is doing simply phenomenal performances match
01:27after match, game after game in the Caribbean.
01:30The campaign started in the US, and now we
01:33are still unbeaten in the tournament.
01:36And the best thing about this final, Pankaj,
01:37is that two of the teams, India and South Africa,
01:44is also on a roll there.
01:47They have secured eight wins on the trot,
01:49while the Indians have secured seven wins on the trot.
01:51So it's going to be a contest between two
01:54of the best sides in the tournament.
01:57And it couldn't have been a better setting.
02:01South Africa facing India in a final.
02:03Let's go back to 1991, when the Apartheid ended.
02:07I mean, you've been there in South Africa,
02:09and you've seen things from very close quarters.
02:12And you might be able to understand
02:14how important it is for South Africa
02:17to finally make it to the finals of an ICC event.
02:20I mean, they made it to the semifinals
02:23quite a lot of times.
02:24But it is the first occasion when the South Africans are
02:27actually in the finals.
02:29And the chokers tag, which has been associated with them
02:33right from the 1992s, might finally be ending tomorrow.
02:38But let me tell you, if we talk on paper
02:42and the kind of performances that we
02:44have seen throughout the tournament,
02:45India do look favorite.
02:48Absolutely, Avinash.
02:50You're bang on when you mentioned the tag of chokers.
02:53This is also a pivotal moment for the very young cricketers
02:57also in South Africa, and cricket South Africa especially,
03:00backing them this time around, or for the last few years,
03:04I would say.
03:05The change in the team composition
03:07also, there is a black emancipation
03:11also that is going on there.
03:12And the role of key players like Kahiso Rabada
03:15and the captain himself is something
03:17that has been appreciated time and again.
03:19We'll have to wait and watch how South Africa performs.
03:21I'll come back to you to discuss how this time around the South
03:26Africans, the proteas are.
03:27But not far away from the venue, the two hosts, the United
03:31States and the Caribbeans, is Canada,
03:34where our colleague DJ Jackson is sitting very comfortably
03:37in a very pristine background.
03:38DJ, hello.
03:39How are you?
03:40And first things first, what is the excitement there
03:43in the diaspora for the cricket?
03:45Is that the city of Ontario?
03:49So yeah.
03:50So people are here like so excited.
03:53You know, like there's a huge Indian community in Canada.
03:55Like they're also looking forward to this India's victory
03:57over here.
03:58Definitely India is like a stronger side on the paper.
04:01And so far, we have seen a good batting
04:03and overall performances.
04:06And the whole community is looking forward
04:10to India's win on Sunday, like the match will
04:13happen on Saturday.
04:13But it will be happening on Sunday over here.
04:18Right, right.
04:19DJ, absolutely.
04:21You know, much happening there in that part of the world.
04:23So we'll come back to you to discuss
04:25how the Niger issue, once again, found mention
04:27and raised quite a storm there.
04:30But before that, talking about storm,
04:32there is something going on in India as well.
04:34Meat is something that is the controversy
04:37is refusing to die down.
04:38Ajay Mohan is there with us from Native Planet
04:41and the editor of Career India, a wing of One India.
04:46Ajay Mohanji, when we talk about the controversy of meat,
04:50there is something that the student fraternity has
04:52been given a deadly blow.
04:54And in the last course of two or three weeks,
04:58we have seen how the government also has been found,
05:02you know, erring or maybe lack of caution was there.
05:06How is the scenario unfolding in part of India
05:09where you are as of now in Bangalore?
05:11And what do you foresee?
05:12What are your vision on it?
05:15So, Pankaj, the thing is definitely
05:17it's kind of a roaring issue right now in this whole country.
05:24But once fraternity is there, you
05:27can say the segment is a student.
05:29So you can see most of the students are silent, right?
05:34And most of the coaching institutions are also silent.
05:36There are two different reasons.
05:39Silent means those I spoke to many people.
05:42There is one girl from Lucknow.
05:44She said, I got 370 marks, but I wouldn't
05:47get the MBBS seat in any of the government colleges in India.
05:51So I asked, are you going to reappear in the,
05:56are you going to prepare one more time for next year?
05:59She said, no, I won't because I have
06:01lost the trust on the NTA.
06:04Then I asked, then what is your demand right now?
06:08Do you want 3 exams for all the NIT aspirants?
06:12Then she said, I don't want any kind of 3 exams.
06:17Then I said, why are you saying like this?
06:19She said, because again, I don't know whether I
06:24can get 670 marks or not.
06:29That's the main question.
06:31So in each marks, the rank can go,
06:34rank can just push down in lakhs or in thousands.
06:38If you just compare, and I want to put up some data here.
06:45So compare the last 2023 data.
06:48Only three people got 716 marks out of 720.
06:53And this year, 72 people got.
06:56And similarly, 650, above 650, there
06:59were only around 7,228 people.
07:03But like this year, 27,000 people got 650 marks.
07:08They think about the people who are in general category,
07:11will they get this?
07:12They don't know.
07:14Even if I'm asking them, do you want
07:16to get the reassessment of the copies?
07:20They said, no.
07:21Because reassessment, how will you do it?
07:23So why not she?
07:25And negative marking is there.
07:27So they have lost the trust overall.
07:31And it doesn't augur well for a country like India.
07:35So we are just waiting for the decision from the verdict
07:38from the Honorable Supreme Court.
07:42And another set of the people, yes, definitely they want.
07:46But still, they are in dilemma whether they
07:48can score that marks or not.
07:50And third set of the people are, they
07:56actually enter the heavy mental stress.
07:58I'll tell you, see, my daughter is also
08:02preparing for the JEE exam.
08:04I know what kind of stress she is having right now
08:06for each and every question.
08:08When she feels too attempt, even face fails to solve,
08:12think about the people who are on the exam room.
08:15And again, they will have to face the same stress.
08:18So that's the main issue, which I
08:20think Honorable Supreme Court should consider.
08:24Right, right, right.
08:25Absolutely, Ajay ji, stay with us, stay with us.
08:28There is something that is also not good with Gujarat also,
08:33where paper leaks have been dominating the proceedings.
08:37Kalpesh ji,
08:38In Gujarat also, if you look at the papers,
08:41then where does this matter stop?
08:43Is it not visible that this matter will stop?
08:46No, sir, the matter will not stop until the government
08:50has formed a one nation, one policy.
08:52Where does this start from?
08:54It is a company based in Ahmedabad,
08:56by conducting an HU test.
08:59In Bihar, in 2023, they were blacklisted,
09:02because they had blacklisted the person for the exam,
09:06because they had given all the responsibility for the exam to the HU test.
09:12And the government hiring was leaked in that paper.
09:16So they blacklisted Bihar.
09:18Then in 2024, this year,
09:20Uttar Pradesh gave the same contract to the same company
09:24for hiring 63,000 constables.
09:26Now they gave the responsibility to this company.
09:29The paper was leaked again.
09:31And on June 20, 2024,
09:34the UP government has also blacklisted this company, the HU test.
09:38But if one state blacklists it,
09:41why don't all the other states blacklist it immediately?
09:45The main question is,
09:46even the Gujarat government is only gifting this contract to them.
09:50Give it to any HU test,
09:52or there are 2-3 companies that have been blacklisted in some states,
09:57but still they get contracts to take the exam.
10:00And the second thing is that the government has its own facilities.
10:05It has its own press.
10:06So why do they get the paper leaked outside?
10:10Absolutely.
10:11Ajay ji, how do you view this?
10:12Kalpesh has made quite a few significant points.
10:16Where could the government actually intervene
10:20and possibly make a course correction here?
10:25See, first of all, the robust system is required.
10:29And there are loopholes we know.
10:31And regularly these paper leaks, news are coming up.
10:37So the only thing which can save the students
10:42from this kind of mental stress is the robust plan,
10:46robust system, and the, whatever you can say,
10:51the criminal offensive.
10:52It should be rigorous punishment should be there.
10:59Nothing else.
10:59We can't do anything.
11:01Because it's a big country.
11:04India is not that small.
11:05Like we can think about those items.
11:08They changed the director of NDA also.
11:10Do you think NDA is effective enough or is it a toothless one?
11:15I can't comment on that because, at least I can't comment on the new director.
11:19But definitely the chief of the organization is responsible.
11:24Responsible.
11:25Yes, yes.
11:25He has to answer the questions from the nations which
11:28are coming out of the different part of the nation.
11:32Right.
11:33Yeah, Ajayji, stay with us.
11:35I have to discuss with you one more burning issue, if I may say so,
11:40that of the heat waves.
11:42But now, thanks to the monsoon, things have subsided a bit.
11:44But let me go across very quickly to Avinash.
11:46Avinash, well, talking about cricket, there's
11:50something that even the harshest critique of the Indian team
11:56wouldn't shy away from actually watching this final match.
12:00And a lot of expectations riding on the pain in blue.
12:05But talking about South Africa, they have been unlucky also in many regards.
12:09Talk about the Duckworth-Lewis method, the rain playing the spoilsport.
12:13Pretty much chances of rain also in that part of the world
12:16where this final would be happening.
12:18How do you assess the strength of the South African team as of now?
12:23And what are the chances for one final time for the viewers of India?
12:28Well, Pankaj, the best thing is for South Africa,
12:33what's happened during this tournament in the match against West Indies,
12:37it was a decider for them, a knockout kind of a virtual quarterfinal
12:41for both the teams.
12:42And it actually went into Duckworth-Lewis.
12:46And Mr. Duckworth, may his soul rest in peace now.
12:51But eventually, the South Africans tasted a sweet victory
12:56even in a Duckworth-Lewis rain-affected encounter.
13:00So that comes as a wonderful surprise for the South Africans.
13:06And given the kind of performance this team has put up
13:09and the way Aiden Markram has led the team,
13:14will give this team a lot of confidence.
13:16The squad looks quite balanced.
13:19They have possible forces.
13:20They are T20 specialists.
13:22We've seen what the South Africans did in the IPL,
13:26which was held in India between March and May.
13:31And there too, we saw the likes of Tristan Tubbs,
13:34Kagiso Rabadas, Aiden Markram, Keshav Maharajal,
13:38and let's not forget Henrik Klassen, the big hitter,
13:42the giant slayer that he's been known for,
13:47the reputation that he holds.
13:48So these players are definitely going to play a big role.
13:53And they'll be very crucial for South Africa's chances
13:57if they wish to win this tournament
14:00and defeat the team like India, which is on song.
14:04So they have the players.
14:05They have the talent.
14:07But it all boils down to now, how
14:11are they going to handle the pressure of a big match,
14:14a final pressure?
14:16The only big tournament this team had won
14:18was back in the late 90s, the Champions Trophy,
14:22which they ended up winning.
14:24So it's been more than 24 years since South Africa has actually
14:28won a big, major tournament.
14:32The Commonwealth Games, which was held back in the 90s,
14:36they won that.
14:37So no other big tournament or trophies there in the cabinet.
14:42So when it comes to crossing the final hurdle, at times,
14:47the players, they don't have the experience
14:50of how to handle the pressure.
14:52And we've seen what has been happening
14:54with the Indian side, as you mentioned in the beginning.
14:59Three back-to-back ICC Trophy finalists.
15:02But we are yet not too sure whether we'll
15:06be able to clear the final hurdle this time around,
15:09though there's a team like South Africa.
15:11It's a vitriolic side, let's be honest.
15:13And it can go anywhere.
15:15And one aspect of this game or the tournament which
15:19comes into India's favor is that South Africa
15:21haven't played a single game in Barbados.
15:24And India have.
15:24And there, they defeated Afghanistan
15:26by a big margin of 47 runs.
15:29And the same Afghanistan side blanked New Zealand early
15:33in the tournament.
15:33And later on, it blanked the 2011 T20 world champions.
15:40And the 2023 ODI world champions are Australians.
15:44So the lack of experience of this tournament
15:50on this ground could come to South Africa's knees.
15:56You're right.
15:58No, you're right, Avinash, talking about the cricket
16:01frenzy also in South Africa.
16:04As you mentioned, I've spent some time there.
16:07And I've seen that they take the game very seriously.
16:10And cricket is not just the only game that they are good at.
16:13And be it rugby or football, the nation
16:16goes gung-ho on those games as well.
16:18So they know the spirit of the sporting, these greats
16:25that they have produced.
16:26And Avinash, for our young viewers,
16:29those who must have started watching cricket
16:32for the last 10 to 15 years.
16:34But before that, if we go back to the days of Jonty Rhodes,
16:37Mark Boucher, Jacques Kallis, that
16:41was the time when South Africa had talent.
16:44And as a team, they were one unit.
16:47The problem that I see with the proteins
16:49is that they have all the talents, the names
16:51that you took, be it Adrian Markram, be it Keshav Maharaj,
16:55or the ones that we have just recently retired,
16:58say AB de Villiers or Quinton de Kock.
17:01But they failed to perform as a team.
17:04And that's where it all starts to crumble like a pack of cards.
17:08Otherwise, you talk about AB de Villiers,
17:10when he was there in the team, one
17:12of the biggest, lusty hitter of the shots.
17:16I've seen him perform both in South Africa and abroad.
17:20And you would agree that a very athletic team that they have.
17:24Yet, we'll have to wait and watch this time around.
17:28If the Duckworth Lewis can favor South Africa,
17:31I think it's a big sign that something
17:34is there positively on the cards.
17:38Rather, other than cricket, you are in that part of the world
17:42where Indians and the Indian diaspora
17:45is there in quite a big number.
17:47Yes, they celebrate cricket.
17:48They enjoy cricket.
17:49Last time also, I remember talking
17:51to one of our representatives from Canada
17:54itself when India was in the finals with Australia
17:58at that time.
18:00But other than that, there are quite a few issues
18:03that dominate the headlines there.
18:06One of them is the Niger issue and how Justin Trudeau's
18:09government has been tackling it, has been seeing it.
18:12How is the general perception there,
18:14if you may refer, vis-a-vis the native Canadians
18:19and the Indian diaspora?
18:21How do they see this whole issue, this whole episode?
18:24So hi, Pankaj.
18:25The Indian community, we are looking forward
18:27to the entire Indian diaspora is looking forward
18:29to the Canadian election next year.
18:31So one side, we have the Trudeau government,
18:33and there is a Perry Pulliver on the other side,
18:38the Conservatives.
18:40And this Canada, the economy is failing.
18:44In the recent years, the economy is going down in a steep hill.
18:47And there's a huge immigration mess happening in the system.
18:51You can see a lot of scams.
18:53So recently, on March, the government
18:57took a decision that they're going to stop.
19:00They're going to cut down on the student intakes
19:03because people are coming, students are coming over here
19:06with a lot of hopes and with a lot of hopes.
19:11And seeing that, but all the wealth you tell,
19:13like this country cannot provide.
19:16Like when the mass immigration happens,
19:19students are fighting hard for the economies,
19:22like inflation is happening.
19:24It's skyrocketing, actually.
19:25And the students are trying hard to survive.
19:28So things are looking bad at the moment.
19:30So government has to make a decision
19:32and cut down on the student intakes across the provinces.
19:36And there is a lot of uncertainty
19:39in the Indian community as well, like regarding the work
19:43permits or the permanent residency.
19:47Right, right, right.
19:48Yeah, and I can see there are a lot of protests
19:51happening within our community to this government,
19:54I mean, showcasing against this government as well.
19:58Right, right.
20:00Indeed, Dijo, we did pick up the news
20:03that how Canada has made the rules very stringent,
20:08even for the students to come and study there,
20:10and India being one of the biggest countries.
20:13Thank you, Dijo.
20:14Thank you so much, brother.
20:15Take care.
20:15And we sitting in India could only
20:18envy the beautiful background and the beautiful weather
20:21that you have there.
20:22How is it otherwise?
20:24Is it too cold, or is it manageable?
20:27Well, it was like we had a heat warning for the past two
20:29weeks.
20:29The temperature hit around like 35 degrees Celsius.
20:3335, too hot.
20:34Yeah, but again, the atmosphere is so close
20:37when it comes to the North Pole.
20:39I mean, we live in the northern region.
20:41So heat waves are like, heat wave warning
20:43comes quite often here.
20:46So just the start of summer, things are going to get burning.
20:49That's the usual feel people are having
20:52right here, right now.
20:53Again, the reasons are like there
20:58is a global warming happening, and El Nino.
21:02Effective there.
21:04Yes, so those are Canada's weather structure at the moment.
21:08But today, it's a calm and quiet morning here.
21:12Yeah, as they say, Dijo, make hay when the sun shines.
21:17And I can see it shining right there.
21:19Thank you so much, Dijo, for joining us all the way
21:21from Ontario in Canada.
21:23Dijo mentions that the heat wave is on there.
21:26And 35 degrees in Canada, in that part of the world,
21:28let me tell you, it is no less than 45 degrees
21:31in this part of the world.
21:33Tell us, Ajayji, how do we look at this whole scenario
21:36as a part of the native planet, and your opinion on that?
21:41So I totally agree with your comment
21:43that 35 degrees there is almost 45 degrees in India.
21:47Yes, agreed.
21:48And one more point I want to add.
21:50In last month, there is a 500% jump in the hospitalization
21:56cases in US due to heat wave only.
21:59You can just think about the people are not even means.
22:02They can't bear this kind of heat.
22:05The normal temperature in US is usually
22:07like 30 degrees and 32 degrees.
22:09So last week, it went up to around 38 degrees Celsius.
22:15And if you come down here in India,
22:18so India, you saw that last month, a lot of heat wave
22:24warnings came from the IMD itself.
22:27But people are not talking about the cases.
22:30So yesterday, one report came from Climate Central.
22:35And it is published across India and all around news channels
22:41and newspapers covered it.
22:43Around 61 crore people were affected in India
22:47due to heat wave just in six days in India.
22:52So you can think about how the things are
22:55getting worse day by day.
22:59So not only India, China, 579 million.
23:02And US, 165 million people affected due to heat wave.
23:07So it's a serious concern for all.
23:10And those who are thinking like, now,
23:12they live in by the show, they don't be very happy about that.
23:17And the reason is this heat wave is not just temperature rise.
23:23Actually, it's an extreme climate event.
23:29And that extreme climate event can happen during the monsoon
23:33as well.
23:34We saw in 2013 that Uttarakhand experienced
23:40whatever, we know that.
23:41It was a disaster.
23:42In 2018, again, Kerala was the victim.
23:46In 2015, we always talk about Chennai floods and all.
23:49So one term, actually, it is actually
23:52not being surfaced by many media organizations,
23:56the urban flooding.
23:58Urban flooding, it's actually, it
24:00was discussed in IPCC as well in last conference.
24:04And again, in the UN Biodiversity Conference,
24:09it's actually going to head in Colombia
24:11in the month of October.
24:13So this heat wave, urban flooding, along with the sea,
24:16they are there to make us, for the green,
24:22means they want to discuss the green part of the biodiversity,
24:26you can say.
24:27That's a big thing.
24:29But along with that, they are going to discuss these things.
24:34And not only India, the Pakistan are just neighboring.
24:37So you read that news that around 500 people
24:41are there in hospital.
24:43And a lot of dead bodies are coming out day by day.
24:45It's just kind of COVID kind of situation is there.
24:49Right.
24:50The thing is, government, not only government,
24:54people should be aware and people
24:55should be ready for everything.
24:59Condition is not in our hand right now.
25:02Indeed, indeed, Ajayji, quite an alarming situation here.
25:06And I just wonder that when would the climate become
25:11a voting issue, an election issue?
25:13Because the time has come.
25:15United States is going for polls.
25:17You talk about global warming, one of the biggest
25:20contributors there.
25:21Canada is also heading to polls.
25:22India just had its looks by elections.
25:25I think it's about time that we should
25:27be choosing our leaders, keeping our future in mind,
25:31not just present time.
25:32But India is ahead of a lot of other countries
25:36in whatever requirements for the Paris Agreement.
25:40So no doubt India is on the way.
25:44India is on the track.
25:46But a lot more should come from the people itself.
25:49It's a matter of awareness now.
25:51Definitely, definitely.
25:52And obviously, the use of renewable sources of energy
25:55that India is getting, solar energy is something.
25:58Prime Minister Modi also leading from the front
26:01for her Saur-Urja program.
26:03Hilpesh, before we wind up, we are hearing disturbing news
26:07coming in from Gujarat as far as the drug haul is concerned.
26:09And every time there's a new record,
26:11a new figure is added.
26:13Yes, Mr. Pankaj, Gujarat has already become a mini-Mexico.
26:25If you put it that way, there's nothing wrong with it.
26:27Because...
26:28Who is Pablo Escobar of Gujarat?
26:30Who is taking drugs from there?
26:32That will be known when the police department
26:35conducts an investigation.
26:36Because they've been investigating for the last three years,
26:38but they haven't found Pablo Escobar yet.
26:42In the last one year, they've arrested 353 people
26:46in a drug smuggling case.
26:48And a total of 87,000 kg drugs have been seized in Gujarat
26:53in the last three years.
26:54If we evaluate it, it's 9,600 crore rupees.
27:00These are just official numbers, Mr. Pankaj.
27:03You can imagine how big the unofficial numbers will be.
27:09The drugs smuggled in Gujarat are mostly from the sea border.
27:14Korbandar, Dwarka and Kutch.
27:16Mostly, drugs are smuggled in Gujarat
27:19from the sea border of these three districts.
27:22And there's a village in Dwarka, a small village,
27:27with a population of about 2,000 people.
27:29In that village, 2,500 crores worth of drugs were smuggled.
27:33So, this is the situation in Gujarat.
27:37The Gujarat police...
27:39The Gujarat police were sleeping soundly, but now they're awake.
27:44And now they've started an anti-drug campaign.
27:47So, let's see if this campaign can stop the smuggling of drugs or not.
27:53Kalpesh, thank you very much for the interview.
27:55Quite an eye-opener.
27:57This whole issue of drug menace,
27:59what we used to hear about cross-border drug peddling
28:02through the poorest border of Jammu and Kashmir,
28:05and also through Punjab, because of neighbouring Pakistan.
28:10But Gujarat being a dry state and being a coastal state
28:14is something that adds a lot of different dimension to it.
28:18Gentlemen, thank you so much for speaking to us,
28:21for taking time out.
28:23I wish you all a very happy Friday.
28:25DJ would have just started his Friday there in Canada.
28:28But thank you so much.
28:29And we promise to be back next week, same time, same place,
28:33do say, with One India.