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00:00:00Artur Spencev is an outstanding authority, without a doubt the most respected.
00:00:20He has been a prominent voice of the intellectual community for a long time, for 20 years.
00:00:28He must admire or hate the personality of this brave, radical, bloody dog.
00:00:35You see, this is terrible.
00:00:39I hate to talk about him.
00:00:41Him.
00:00:43Him.
00:00:58Artur Spencev
00:01:00Artur Spencev
00:01:02Artur Spencev
00:01:04Artur Spencev
00:01:06Artur Spencev
00:01:08Artur Spencev
00:01:12I asked you.
00:01:13Yes.
00:01:18I need your help to write the introduction.
00:01:20But it's difficult because...
00:01:22I need an idea.
00:01:27It's difficult to talk about someone's whole life in a few sentences.
00:01:31You know...
00:01:34A man who keeps conducting interviews
00:01:37becomes an unbearably talkative person himself.
00:01:41As if he wanted to satisfy his ambitions.
00:01:44After all, he considers himself a much more interesting personality, doesn't he?
00:01:49And when I conduct an interview, I keep waiting for someone to ask me a question.
00:01:53But don't you feel less important?
00:01:55Of course, this question doesn't come up.
00:01:58So please forgive me, I'll be a bit boring.
00:02:02I'm like an ancient sailor who remembers his journey through the philosophical oceans.
00:02:10For me, every conversation with you is very inspiring.
00:02:13Really?
00:02:14Others made me feel like I was lost in a lethargy.
00:02:17Completely unusable.
00:02:19Just old men.
00:02:21And I'm...
00:02:22Yesterday, when I left...
00:02:26I was very impressed by what you said.
00:02:29What will you say?
00:02:32I swear.
00:02:33I know what you're up to.
00:02:34I'm not up to anything.
00:02:35You want to seduce my attention.
00:02:37No.
00:02:39You want me to open up.
00:02:41Well, yes.
00:02:42But that's not an accusation.
00:02:43No?
00:02:44No.
00:02:46You have a good strategy.
00:02:47Really?
00:02:48Yes, strategy is important, always important.
00:02:50But does it work?
00:02:51Well, let's say it starts to work.
00:02:53I've always wondered how to make a good interview.
00:02:56Especially now, when I'm talking to you.
00:03:02The TV has introduced simplicity and vulgarity to journalism.
00:03:07Because what's the point of today's interview?
00:03:10To extract its secrets from a person.
00:03:15A good interview is not about revealing these secrets right away.
00:03:19It's about discovering why this secret is the basis of someone's life.
00:03:26Fascinating.
00:03:30Really? Is that what you think?
00:03:32What does it matter? After all, I'm nobody.
00:03:35How can you say that about yourself?
00:03:37Well, but... I don't have any illusions.
00:03:40If they chose you...
00:03:42They saw in me a bright and stubborn graduate of a good university and...
00:03:47and they decided they wouldn't have to pay me a lot.
00:03:50Because the satisfaction of meeting you is enough for me.
00:03:55Well, I don't think you appreciate yourself.
00:03:57But I have no complaints about it. It's true.
00:04:00My vulgarity is satisfied and there will be something to put in the CV.
00:04:04Yes, cursed, omnipresent CV.
00:04:08From where I come, girls are raised to be a wife and a mother.
00:04:13And if you want to achieve something more, you have to fight.
00:04:16Adopt hard rules of the game.
00:04:18Gentlemen from the publishing house use me, and then I use them.
00:04:22That's a bit cynical.
00:04:23A relationship that is based on mutual use belongs to the most durable.
00:04:28They need me, I need them.
00:04:32No one smokes anyone out.
00:04:36Well...
00:04:39You have a title?
00:04:41Rationalism in the post-rational world.
00:04:43Ten conversations with outstanding intellectuals.
00:04:51Pretty vulgar.
00:04:53No, no, I like it.
00:04:54They chose you because they wouldn't turn their heads to someone untalented.
00:05:00Thanks.
00:05:02Tell me, do you want to write?
00:05:05Yes. Yes, I want to write.
00:05:07Do you want to write?
00:05:10Prose.
00:05:12I've been trying for a long time.
00:05:16And I know I'll be a very good writer.
00:05:19Jesus, how stupid it sounds when you say it out loud.
00:05:23Yeah.
00:05:25But I think it's about doing what you want, right?
00:05:31For a young man whose world is open, everything remains in the sphere of dreams.
00:05:37He wants them to come true.
00:05:39It's the same as achieving a goal at an adult age.
00:05:42Everyone sets a goal for themselves, but only some people achieve it.
00:05:46I always...
00:05:50So I'm interviewing you.
00:05:52Yes, I'm listening.
00:05:53But when I talk to you, I don't have any complexes.
00:05:57Because I think you're...
00:06:00I'm very curious what you're going to say now.
00:06:02I've always been able to imagine exactly what I want for myself.
00:06:06And my imaginations were perfectly precise, and this reality had to fit into them.
00:06:11Like...
00:06:12Like a book.
00:06:14What else?
00:06:15What else?
00:06:16What else is going to become reality for you?
00:06:20It's a mystery.
00:06:33I talked to her in the kitchen.
00:06:37And I talked to him in the garden.
00:06:39It was suffocating me.
00:06:42He went crazy.
00:06:44She never drank, and now...
00:06:50I thought maybe it was because of the children, but she said everything was fine with them.
00:06:55And he doesn't care about that at all.
00:06:57She was a completely different person.
00:07:02But you know he looked great.
00:07:05Exactly.
00:07:07I told him.
00:07:08Do you realize that you're turning into the stereotype of a pathetic and banal guy in his fifties?
00:07:14And he said, I know.
00:07:16My decision will be hard to accept by my friends, but...
00:07:21Doesn't this girl wonder what she's doing?
00:07:26The biological clock is ticking.
00:07:29This is her last chance to dance.
00:07:33You should know she's already dancing.
00:07:36She's taking him to different clubs.
00:07:38And when they see an old man like him, they think...
00:07:42He says he loves her.
00:07:45He loves how he feels around her.
00:07:49Young women, when they cross a certain age,
00:07:54don't necessarily want to be seduced,
00:07:56but they want to be perceived as dangerous seductresses.
00:08:00And young men, when they cross a certain age,
00:08:03don't necessarily want to be seduced,
00:08:06but they want to be perceived as ready to do it at any moment.
00:08:11In short, Jim...
00:08:15has always been a self-loving asshole.
00:08:18Gwen has been taking care of his overgrown ego all his life.
00:08:23What's going on with these guys?
00:08:25What's going on with these guys?
00:08:28When they feel the end is near,
00:08:30they start flying like madmen to the solarium or to the gym.
00:08:37Gwen said they bought a clock from Cartier.
00:08:42One for him, one for her.
00:08:45He wants to buy a yacht. He wants to sell everything.
00:08:49And one day he'll wake up...
00:08:51...next to a 30-year-old sexist woman.
00:08:53No common history.
00:08:55And what if she starts talking about children?
00:08:57Then he'll see his chance of playing the role of a father in it.
00:09:01After all, for the first time he was too busy making money.
00:09:09He's 63 years old.
00:09:12Well, now he'll start testing tables to roll, not a baby.
00:09:17I told you.
00:09:19Your wife is one of the most intelligent and most enchanting women of our anniversary.
00:09:27Just like mine.
00:09:30Darling.
00:09:47I'm sorry.
00:09:50This whole Arthur thing is probably stuck.
00:09:53It's a great opportunity to talk to you.
00:09:56To me?
00:09:58Or maybe it's better to start the interview
00:10:00than a wife who's waiting for her husband at home,
00:10:03in which they lived for 30 years.
00:10:0632.
00:10:0832 years.
00:10:10God, I can't imagine her spending 32 years with anyone.
00:10:17It brought us happiness.
00:10:19And that was enough?
00:10:21Partly happiness, partly love.
00:10:24And you still have to learn how to live together.
00:10:27Do you think we're born with this knowledge?
00:10:31I think I was born with it.
00:10:34But everyone will tell you anyway
00:10:36that it's not easy.
00:10:38No.
00:10:41It's not easy with him.
00:10:43He's not a man at all.
00:10:46Not with me either.
00:10:48He's a writer.
00:10:50You're a writer.
00:10:52I think I still am.
00:10:54Writers don't retire.
00:10:56All their lives are dedicated to writing.
00:10:59Maybe.
00:11:01It's a constant analysis, observation.
00:11:04Graham Grimm already said
00:11:06that in every writer's heart
00:11:09there's a piece of ice.
00:11:12But you held on.
00:11:16Because you have to be together in difficult times.
00:11:19Just like when he resigned from office in Times Square.
00:11:25I often disagreed with his stubborn, principled idealism.
00:11:30And if you look at it today...
00:11:34But it's not for printing.
00:11:37Of course.
00:11:39Please.
00:11:41For someone like him,
00:11:43who's proud of his intellectual independence,
00:11:47opposing any kind of censorship
00:11:51is worth everything.
00:11:54I used to think
00:11:56that putting your ideas above your common sense
00:12:01was pointless.
00:12:04But he was right then.
00:12:07So there were tensions between you.
00:12:10There were disagreements,
00:12:13but we always reached a common conclusion.
00:12:19Not many people succeed.
00:12:21Oh, yes.
00:12:22But you succeeded. Why?
00:12:24You had to have a lot of strength.
00:12:27Strength?
00:12:29To take such good care of your relationship.
00:12:33I wouldn't call it that.
00:12:35You had to be very persistent.
00:12:41We succeeded, because...
00:12:44we always loved each other.
00:12:46How do you know that?
00:12:48When you reveal what really connects people.
00:12:52When?
00:12:53In the best,
00:12:55in the ordinary,
00:12:56and maybe in the worst moments.
00:12:59In all of them.
00:13:01And the worst ones will teach you
00:13:03how much pain you can take.
00:13:09So pain is a part of love.
00:13:13Yes.
00:13:14And that adds depth to the relationship.
00:13:18That's what love is.
00:13:20A very complicated mixture of pain
00:13:24and pleasure.
00:13:26And something you feel safe in.
00:13:31You don't appreciate it now.
00:13:33Sex.
00:13:35Sex is very important.
00:13:38Of course it is.
00:13:40But you know, we're at such an age
00:13:43that sometimes we'd rather finish reading our favorite story
00:13:47than...
00:13:49crouch in bed.
00:13:51But I'll tell you, just remember,
00:13:53it's not for printing.
00:13:55Of course.
00:13:57The other side of the relationship
00:14:00is very, very important.
00:14:03But with time,
00:14:06even though it's always present,
00:14:08it becomes something different than it used to be.
00:14:11Don't worry about it.
00:14:14It's always with us.
00:14:17But our passions
00:14:20now flow from mutual knowledge of each other.
00:14:24I remember the first years of our love.
00:14:26And I still have them.
00:14:29Love doesn't exist only in the present.
00:14:34And it's not one-dimensional.
00:14:38Fascinating.
00:14:41I'm boring you.
00:14:43No, no, no.
00:14:45Not again.
00:14:47So...
00:14:49you've always been close to him.
00:14:51Someone could say,
00:14:53she was close, she saw less.
00:14:55Do you think that closeness overshadows objectivism?
00:14:58I don't know.
00:14:59But I like to think
00:15:01that we can still surprise ourselves with something.
00:15:04Interesting.
00:15:05Most husbands wouldn't say that.
00:15:08Most women in your...
00:15:10In my age?
00:15:12Well, yes.
00:15:13I don't despair because of my age.
00:15:17The fact that we have years doesn't degrade a person.
00:15:21What's it like to be a writer?
00:15:23To be a writer, ma'am?
00:15:27Yes.
00:15:29It's tiring.
00:15:31It's tiring to reveal yourself,
00:15:34to expose your feelings.
00:15:39And then you have nothing left.
00:15:43And where am I supposed to get them from?
00:15:49That probably doesn't make any sense.
00:15:52In a relationship, there's a problem of domination.
00:15:55What do you mean?
00:15:57I mean, which of you is genetically
00:16:00equipped with the qualities of a dominating personality?
00:16:04In other words,
00:16:06which of you has more dynamics
00:16:08in building a stronger position towards your partner?
00:16:12Oh, God.
00:16:13I stopped thinking about it a long time ago.
00:16:17You disappoint me.
00:16:19For me, a marriage is a union of two people
00:16:23who should grow old together.
00:16:26And all you need is mutual loyalty.
00:16:31Good.
00:16:33But isn't there a fear of changes
00:16:36that can bring life
00:16:38behind that loyalty?
00:16:40I hope not.
00:16:42I think many women justify their life choices
00:16:45by devoting themselves to men.
00:16:47Do you think I'm doing it?
00:16:49No.
00:16:50Some women hide behind their loyalty
00:16:54to their man their own sense of emptiness.
00:16:57So they have to pretend
00:16:59that they devoted themselves to a higher goal,
00:17:01that it was worth it, that he was worth it.
00:17:03Educational.
00:17:06We're all victims of our own life choices.
00:17:10But I don't feel like a victim.
00:17:13And I don't justify my sacrifices.
00:17:16Besides, they don't matter anyway.
00:17:18No.
00:17:19You're certainly right.
00:17:21And what sacrifices do you mean?
00:17:24It all started before I got married.
00:17:27Your first volume of poetry,
00:17:29The Girl's Journey,
00:17:31was published in 1987.
00:17:35And it immediately received all possible awards.
00:17:39You became the voice of the younger generation.
00:17:42You captivated everyone.
00:17:44You captivated me.
00:17:47Thank you.
00:17:50Yes, The Girl's Journey
00:17:52was published two years after our marriage.
00:17:55Soon after, you got pregnant.
00:17:57Finally, yes.
00:17:59And when your husband received
00:18:02a scholarship at Stanford University,
00:18:05you followed him to the States.
00:18:07Yes, for three years.
00:18:08You followed him step by step.
00:18:11But I was his wife.
00:18:13Well, looking at it,
00:18:15your whole life was subordinated to his career.
00:18:19So you think I should have a grudge against him?
00:18:25Don't you think mutual grudges kill love?
00:18:29Lack of equality in mutual relations kills love.
00:18:32If you love someone,
00:18:34you want that person to develop.
00:18:38His success is your success.
00:18:40So you live her life?
00:18:42But it doesn't matter
00:18:44who gives the first place to the other person
00:18:46in achieving success.
00:18:48That's love.
00:18:50Yes, but a woman always has to give in to a man.
00:18:53Am I right?
00:18:54Maybe I'm overestimating myself.
00:18:56But I think it means a lot to him.
00:18:59I'm a good wife, mother, friend.
00:19:03And the fact that I gave birth to our daughter
00:19:06was considered an epoch-making achievement.
00:19:09It's much more than
00:19:11the first place on the list of the 10 best books of the year.
00:19:15Of course.
00:19:16But I can't imagine that I could
00:19:18make a break in my professional life
00:19:21for the man I love.
00:19:23Is there a break in my life now?
00:19:26Only you know that.
00:19:28Darling?
00:19:30Darling!
00:19:32Hello, Claudia. I didn't notice.
00:19:34It doesn't matter.
00:19:36We had a very interesting...
00:19:38...discussion.
00:19:40Your wife made it clear to me
00:19:42that I'm talking nonsense.
00:19:44But it wasn't my goal.
00:19:56She's good with her beasts.
00:19:59It's good that they didn't send
00:20:01another idiot like last time.
00:20:04She asked if we really need
00:20:06more intelligentsia.
00:20:08My God.
00:20:10I told her that
00:20:12if we can identify the gene of intelligentsia,
00:20:15then maybe intelligentsia
00:20:17can be completely liquidated.
00:20:21But she's trying.
00:20:23She is.
00:20:26You see, they obviously care about the interview with you.
00:20:30You know, in this case, me too.
00:20:32Darling, you're exaggerating.
00:20:34Intelligentsia isn't like it used to be.
00:20:37You've been saying that lately.
00:20:39Where are the editors?
00:20:41The people with the vision?
00:20:44If Robert throws my phone away,
00:20:46it would mean that...
00:20:48Don't exaggerate.
00:20:50Tell me,
00:20:52a thirty-year-old girl like me...
00:20:54But there are other newspapers,
00:20:56other possibilities.
00:20:58Yes, but they are run by managers
00:21:00who only care about money.
00:21:03What kind of texts do they want?
00:21:05About fortunes and food.
00:21:07Everything revolves around a good risotto.
00:21:10Now you're getting sarcastic.
00:21:13Sarcastic?
00:21:15Beautifully said.
00:21:17I love you.
00:21:20I know.
00:21:22This girl, Claudia,
00:21:25she reminds me of someone.
00:21:27Who?
00:21:29Me.
00:21:30What do you mean?
00:21:32She's the same as I used to be,
00:21:34before I met you.
00:21:36Well, I'd like our daughter to have something of her character.
00:21:40She's stubborn.
00:21:42And very pretty.
00:21:43Pretty, pretty.
00:21:45At her age, I had similar ambitions.
00:21:49She's very intelligent
00:21:52and tries to be tough,
00:21:54as if she was afraid that someone might hurt her.
00:21:57You know, maybe that's what happened.
00:21:59But she was never loved.
00:22:03Ballet lessons, expensive shoes,
00:22:07excellent schools, but that's not enough.
00:22:11Maybe we should stop...
00:22:14Maybe her mother had some problems with her motherhood
00:22:18and didn't give her...
00:22:20What?
00:22:23This girl will go far.
00:22:26She's determined,
00:22:28and tough.
00:22:32But life will make it easier.
00:22:35I know people are interested in you.
00:22:38But maybe you should...
00:22:40stop your little investigations.
00:22:43Investigations?
00:22:44Yes, you pull out this or that,
00:22:46and she can't even defend herself,
00:22:48because she's not here.
00:22:50But darling, in your journalistic investigations,
00:22:53you thought that getting to the truth was more important
00:22:56than showing kindness.
00:22:58Well, in reality, a journalist is a writer's superior.
00:23:01Really?
00:23:02A writer asks his little questions,
00:23:04and then he creates a fabled work.
00:23:07A journalist doesn't have to hide his hunger for information.
00:23:10Words, words, words.
00:23:14We both make the same mistake
00:23:18that words are more important to us
00:23:21than people.
00:23:22But I hope you didn't say that
00:23:24when you had the dictator on.
00:23:26No.
00:23:27I answered your questions in a skillful way.
00:23:31And what did you want to know about me?
00:23:33Just how sensitive and caring you are.
00:23:37You didn't tell her...
00:23:39No.
00:23:40I presented your very nice and positive
00:23:43image seen with a woman's eyes.
00:23:46Good.
00:23:47She claims that
00:23:50I justify your actions
00:23:52in order to justify my choice of life with you.
00:23:56And?
00:23:57I said she was wrong.
00:24:00And I consciously omitted the not-so-impressive facts
00:24:03from your biography.
00:24:04And do you know why?
00:24:07Because when I defended you, I defended myself, too.
00:24:10You said that because you love me.
00:24:13Yes.
00:24:15Because I love you.
00:24:19But...
00:24:26I don't know if I didn't feel ashamed
00:24:30that I am...
00:24:32Who?
00:24:34A victim.
00:24:35What?
00:24:36This.
00:24:37What do you mean?
00:24:38You are always the most important.
00:24:41Since when?
00:24:42Since the beginning of our marriage.
00:24:45You've always considered it a blessing.
00:24:48Yes.
00:24:49I didn't accuse you of anything.
00:24:52It was our mutual choice.
00:24:54Something like that.
00:24:56I mean...
00:24:58You wanted me to do my doctorate,
00:25:01to write my first book.
00:25:04Besides, we had a child.
00:25:06But that journalist caused a sense of guilt in me.
00:25:10Why?
00:25:12Because I wanted all of this
00:25:14and that's why I didn't become the person I could be.
00:25:19I was shocked
00:25:22that I didn't keep up with you in your career.
00:25:27She is young, but...
00:25:29She is intelligent.
00:25:33Artur, admit it.
00:25:37You fell in love with a poet.
00:25:40It's true. I loved you.
00:25:42I loved your talent.
00:25:44But I stopped writing.
00:25:46You still do.
00:25:47Please, Artur.
00:25:52I wonder if it's not because of you
00:25:55that I gave up the only thing you really valued in me.
00:25:59What?
00:26:01Fame, which gave me my debut.
00:26:04Was it more important than our daughter?
00:26:06Our life?
00:26:08Our love?
00:26:11Why would it matter to me?
00:26:16I was great.
00:26:18And I chose you.
00:26:22Do you know why?
00:26:26Because you were great, too.
00:26:36They loved it.
00:26:38That's good.
00:26:40But they want more about personal life.
00:26:44You mean Artur Spencer's secrets and secrets?
00:26:48I told the editor that I'm not going to talk about it.
00:26:52You see, darling, it's your job.
00:26:55I can take care of other people's divorces and depressions
00:26:59if they expect it from me.
00:27:03But not yours.
00:27:07I like you.
00:27:08I'm glad to hear that.
00:27:10Besides, what do they expect?
00:27:13Your daughter is studying in Cambridge.
00:27:16Yes, that's true.
00:27:17And you have a wife who loves you very much.
00:27:21Yes.
00:27:22A beautiful house with a library filled with books.
00:27:28With nice dedications from famous and outstanding writers.
00:27:33Yes.
00:27:36I'm sorry, but there's nothing exciting about it.
00:27:40It's boring.
00:27:42Exactly.
00:27:43Maybe I'm unfair?
00:27:45No, no, no.
00:27:46You see, journalism is about questioning stereotypes,
00:27:51sometimes for something sensational.
00:27:55There's a common history,
00:27:57although in every life you can find a tragedy.
00:28:01In each of us there are so many contradictions,
00:28:03for example, shyness and indifference, right?
00:28:07Self-control or...
00:28:10or giving in to emotions.
00:28:15What really is hidden in our insides?
00:28:19What am I hiding from myself?
00:28:31Maybe we'll find out.
00:28:38Sometimes you long for something for the rest of your life,
00:28:42and then you reject it.
00:28:45Why?
00:28:46Because it may not be the best and the least noble thing.
00:28:52Did you suffer because of that?
00:28:54Yes.
00:28:55Me too.
00:28:57I've always dreamt of becoming someone I didn't manage to become.
00:29:04But you're young.
00:29:07You can discover many goals in life.
00:29:10Which will turn out to be another wall.
00:29:12How can you say that? You're intelligent, pretty...
00:29:16Do you really think so?
00:29:18You hear it many times.
00:29:20I'm sure you have many admirers.
00:29:24It's all nonsense.
00:29:26I know I'm attractive.
00:29:29Honestly.
00:29:30I've known it since I was 12,
00:29:33that there's something in me that men want to fuck with me.
00:29:39But I'm smart.
00:29:41I've dealt with outstanding intellectuals many times.
00:29:46I've always been able to deal with them.
00:29:49During the interviews I heard a quiet voice saying,
00:29:53Hey, little one, you really know how to do it.
00:29:57Yes, I have no doubts about that.
00:30:00And it was like a revelation.
00:30:03That there's something I have.
00:30:06An incredible gift of persuasion.
00:30:09I doubt it.
00:30:11It's like being on a high.
00:30:16And then I get a kick
00:30:20It's like being in bed with someone.
00:30:23And I'm naked.
00:30:26I feel how fantastic my body is.
00:30:29And I drive the guy crazy.
00:30:33That something extraordinary is awakening in me.
00:30:36And I feel like I'm floating in the air.
00:30:39And my blood is pulsating.
00:30:42Pulsating, pulsating.
00:30:45Until the explosion.
00:30:48Yes.
00:30:50With pleasure.
00:30:52Yes.
00:30:57You see, I can meet the requirements of an intellectual relationship.
00:31:02But don't you wonder what else is in me?
00:31:05The fact that you're attractive sexually has nothing to do with the fact that you're outstandingly intelligent.
00:31:12There's something in your intellect that makes you rise.
00:31:16Aren't my ambitions naive?
00:31:19No.
00:31:21You have a quality that distinguishes you.
00:31:24Is there something original in me?
00:31:26Yes. Your own, individual way of seeing the world.
00:31:31So you don't want to fuck with me?
00:31:34Because I really want to.
00:31:37Remember, it's very important.
00:31:41Don't give up.
00:31:43I'm not going to.
00:31:52Are you feeling bad?
00:31:54No.
00:31:55Aren't you sick?
00:31:56No.
00:31:58It's about her.
00:31:59What?
00:32:00Our daughter.
00:32:02No, no.
00:32:04Listen.
00:32:07We need to talk.
00:32:10I'm leaving.
00:32:12What?
00:32:15I'm leaving.
00:32:18What?
00:32:21I'm leaving you.
00:32:24Say that again.
00:32:26I'm leaving.
00:32:28Now?
00:32:32Right now?
00:32:34Yes.
00:32:36Where to?
00:32:39I don't know.
00:32:42Why? What's going on?
00:32:48I'm not happy.
00:32:53Why didn't you ever tell me?
00:32:56I couldn't.
00:32:59But this is about us.
00:33:04That's right.
00:33:05It just hit me today.
00:33:08This morning I woke up with this thought.
00:33:13I came to the point where I can't be here any longer.
00:33:18Are you mad at me?
00:33:20No, no.
00:33:23It's just...
00:33:26I can't put it any other way.
00:33:28What?
00:33:30I love you.
00:33:33I can't be with you any longer.
00:33:38You say you love me.
00:33:41If you love me, then we can...
00:33:44No, no, no.
00:33:46You don't love me?
00:33:48I love you.
00:33:50I love you like...
00:33:52You don't love me like you love your wife.
00:33:54I love you like I love my wife.
00:33:57I don't understand.
00:33:59I don't want this kind of love.
00:34:01It's a big mess.
00:34:03Listen to her.
00:34:05I mean...
00:34:09You don't need a wife anymore.
00:34:12Yes, that's right.
00:34:15I don't need a wife anymore.
00:34:19And you love me.
00:34:21I love you.
00:34:23I will always love you.
00:34:26Like your favorite hug from childhood.
00:34:30Like a beloved dog.
00:34:33I really didn't want any of us to feel humiliated.
00:34:37What?
00:34:40I think I should go now and think it over.
00:34:46Then we can discuss it together.
00:34:49Our life together was wonderful.
00:34:54It was.
00:34:57And now I feel like I'm dying.
00:34:59And I'm not ready to die yet.
00:35:02Maybe it would be better this way.
00:35:04What?
00:35:06Is...
00:35:10Is there someone else?
00:35:13No.
00:35:14Tell me.
00:35:17It's not about someone else.
00:35:19Please, tell me.
00:35:22Artur, you have to tell me.
00:35:28You have to.
00:35:34Who is it?
00:35:36It doesn't matter.
00:35:37It matters.
00:35:39It could be anyone.
00:35:41Who is it?
00:35:45A journalist.
00:36:11My father left me.
00:36:14What?
00:36:16He met someone else.
00:36:22He left you for another woman?
00:36:24Yes.
00:36:28Who is she?
00:36:30A journalist.
00:36:32You mean the one who interviewed him?
00:36:36Yes.
00:36:38But she's my age.
00:36:43She's a bit older than you.
00:36:46She's a piece of shit.
00:36:48He just came and said he was leaving.
00:36:52Yes.
00:36:53But you were supposed to get along.
00:36:58He acted like he was a completely different person.
00:37:02Has he changed? Has he stopped loving you?
00:37:10Mom.
00:37:20I invited him to dinner.
00:37:27I made a very good soup out of rye.
00:37:31It was like that.
00:37:32I baked him some salmon.
00:37:36I served him some florentines for dessert.
00:37:39I baked them myself for that coffee.
00:37:43I thought to myself,
00:37:45a young, lonely woman.
00:37:48She probably doesn't cook at home.
00:37:50Let her eat with us.
00:37:55And she did.
00:38:03My dad and his fucking middle-aged crisis.
00:38:08He got a bit late, didn't he?
00:38:11What does he want to prove?
00:38:13Does he still want to talk about it?
00:38:16Go to the psychiatrist.
00:38:17He's a complete moron.
00:38:19He didn't want to hurt you.
00:38:21I don't care what he wanted.
00:38:23Now you're judging everything from my point of view.
00:38:26What?
00:38:28He doesn't know what he's doing.
00:38:31Are you defending him?
00:38:32No.
00:38:33You're defending him.
00:38:35He fell in love.
00:38:36You're justifying him.
00:38:38You can't force him to fall in love.
00:38:43Yes, because many women do that.
00:38:45You can't force anyone to love.
00:38:49So all of this,
00:38:51you and me,
00:38:52all of our common life,
00:38:54it doesn't mean anything, does it?
00:38:56It's one big piece of shit.
00:38:58No.
00:38:59Jesus, Mom.
00:39:00Don't give up. Fight.
00:39:02Why?
00:39:03You can't?
00:39:04I don't know. You should...
00:39:06You should be proud, but you...
00:39:09You act like a martyr.
00:39:11You accept everything as if it were irreversible.
00:39:15As if you deserved it.
00:39:17Now you're being unfair.
00:39:19What am I supposed to do?
00:39:22Cut off all of his sleeves from his sweaters?
00:39:25Set this house on fire?
00:39:26It won't solve anything.
00:39:28It's your impudence.
00:39:32Don't say anything anymore, okay?
00:39:35Please, don't say anything anymore.
00:39:41Does he live with her?
00:39:42I don't know.
00:39:43You don't know.
00:39:44Look, I live here for now.
00:39:47We'll talk later, okay?
00:39:49When the emotions subside a little.
00:39:52I want to talk to him.
00:39:54I don't defend him.
00:39:56But remember that he may stop being my husband,
00:40:00her lover,
00:40:02but he will never stop being your father.
00:40:07So don't talk to him like...
00:40:09Like what?
00:40:12Like you were mine.
00:40:30I want to be honest with you, my daughter.
00:40:33Great.
00:40:36I'm delighted.
00:40:38It's very much your style.
00:40:40Your honesty.
00:40:42We appreciate it a lot.
00:40:45It sounds beautiful in your interview.
00:40:49You're angry with me.
00:40:53Yes.
00:40:55I'm angry.
00:40:58Look at me.
00:41:03What else do you have to say?
00:41:09I'm curious what else you can come up with.
00:41:13We're both adults.
00:41:15Let's not get hysterical.
00:41:18Yes.
00:41:19Of course.
00:41:20You'll explain everything to me in a moment.
00:41:22You'd better dictate it to me.
00:41:23I'll write it all down.
00:41:25What you do, how you act,
00:41:28and of course how people will react to it.
00:41:30I don't want to dictate anything to you.
00:41:31I want to talk to you like an adult with an adult.
00:41:34And you act like an adult?
00:41:38Then let's talk like adults.
00:41:43Do I smell good?
00:41:45What?
00:41:47Because I smell good.
00:41:49Very good.
00:41:51Like any young lady.
00:41:55Listen...
00:41:56You're pathetic.
00:42:00Look in the mirror, how old you are.
00:42:02But I'm still alive.
00:42:03You're an old man.
00:42:04Yes, right, I'm old.
00:42:06I hate you.
00:42:18I...
00:42:19I always thought you were in love.
00:42:21Because it was.
00:42:25You were so different from other couples.
00:42:30I loved your mother.
00:42:32I still love her.
00:42:34If someone loves, they don't act like you.
00:42:36Either you love someone, or you don't.
00:42:47I can't turn it around anymore.
00:42:51Why?
00:42:52Because you won't kill something that's stronger than you.
00:42:57Does...
00:42:59Does that mean you fell in love too weakly?
00:43:06When it comes to talking, you've always been very good at it.
00:43:10Moral responsibility and so on.
00:43:12You could talk about it for hours.
00:43:16But in this case it's different.
00:43:19You liked to show off in front of the audience, daddy.
00:43:24Do you think you're a tough girl?
00:43:27What's going on?
00:43:28What's going on with you?
00:43:31You don't know everything about love.
00:43:33You think so?
00:43:35Love changes everything.
00:43:41I used to love your mother, but...
00:43:44What?
00:43:46Now it's different.
00:43:49Do you love her?
00:43:51I do, but it's not...
00:43:53What?
00:43:54It's not...
00:43:55Tell me!
00:44:00It's not a passion.
00:44:03It's not a desire.
00:44:05Love and desire are the same?
00:44:08When I wake up in the morning,
00:44:11I feel an incredible energy permeating me.
00:44:15I can't live without it.
00:44:18I can't live without passion.
00:44:21I really didn't want to fall in love.
00:44:25Love just comes and...
00:44:30I fell in love.
00:44:32I just fell in love.
00:44:34You're pathetic.
00:44:36But she's guilty of it.
00:44:38She's your mother, so you have to defend her.
00:44:41Jesus.
00:44:42Don't you see that?
00:44:44Don't you see that I'm not defending her?
00:44:46Don't you see that?
00:44:47I think she's an idiot.
00:44:49Because she provoked all of this.
00:44:52Do you know why?
00:44:53Because she lived her whole life according to your desires.
00:44:58She served you.
00:45:00A wife, a mistress, a hostess, a driver, a therapist.
00:45:03Everything, everything that a great ruler wished for.
00:45:06And you want to say that she didn't make a career because of me?
00:45:09Who says that? The greatest careerist.
00:45:20The only thing I have to say to you
00:45:25is that you're such a weak person.
00:45:30I won't regret it.
00:45:3532 years together and it's over between us, right?
00:45:40It's over.
00:45:42Listen, you need help.
00:45:45I'll try to get a psychologist.
00:45:49If you look at everything from a distance, calmly, you'll see for yourself.
00:45:54I don't need a psychologist.
00:45:56But you should.
00:45:58I don't need a psychologist.
00:46:01If you look at everything from a distance, calmly, you'll see for yourself.
00:46:03I don't need a psychologist.
00:46:05But you should try.
00:46:06Don't teach me.
00:46:07Don't teach me?
00:46:08For God's sake, don't teach me.
00:46:10For God's sake, don't leave me.
00:46:32Naturalism is a 19th century literary direction.
00:46:38Which one?
00:46:40Just don't let me look like an idiot.
00:46:44And the deterministic way of seeing?
00:46:49It's getting more and more difficult.
00:46:51I have some gaps everywhere.
00:46:54Can we go over this list again?
00:46:57What do you have there?
00:47:00Resistentialism and space.
00:47:04Space?
00:47:05What's space got to do with it?
00:47:07You know what? I'm not the best at this.
00:47:10I'm not good at anything.
00:47:12What are you not good at?
00:47:14Nothing.
00:47:15Say that again.
00:47:18Nothing.
00:47:25That's why I love you.
00:47:27And I love you for everything.
00:47:29For everything?
00:47:30For everything.
00:47:33You know, I'm thinking about what keeps us here.
00:47:36Sell everything.
00:47:39Buy a yacht and disappear.
00:47:43Yacht?
00:47:46Leave.
00:47:48Travel the world.
00:47:49Just us.
00:47:54But I don't want to buy a yacht.
00:47:57Do you want more?
00:48:00What about your job?
00:48:03Fuck it.
00:48:05I've had enough of the editorial board,
00:48:07the investigative committee,
00:48:08the press conference.
00:48:10But you're someone there.
00:48:12I don't need to be someone anymore.
00:48:16But I don't want to sail the world.
00:48:18Then we won't.
00:48:22Love is important, but
00:48:24let's not forget what else should unite us.
00:48:27Otherwise, this relationship will fall apart.
00:48:30Besides you, I don't care about anything.
00:48:35Do you know what's the most upsetting thing between us?
00:48:38That we have to impress each other all the time.
00:48:41Otherwise, this relationship will die,
00:48:43so let's keep getting our points.
00:48:46You think I have to keep getting points?
00:48:50Yes, you do.
00:48:54Am I wrong?
00:48:55No, it's true.
00:48:57You're perfect.
00:49:04We have to be the best of all.
00:49:06Otherwise, this relationship will be another romance
00:49:09between an old man and a young whore.
00:49:11That's the reality.
00:49:14Do you know what's the most upsetting thing between us?
00:49:18Your intellect.
00:49:21It's super sexy.
00:49:25If I hadn't met you...
00:49:27I would have found you.
00:49:30It had to be this way.
00:49:36And this is determination.
00:49:50How do you know you love him?
00:49:55I don't have to answer this question.
00:49:58You don't have to.
00:50:00But answer it.
00:50:04With him...
00:50:06I feel like...
00:50:08everything is possible.
00:50:10Possible.
00:50:12Possible to achieve.
00:50:13As if I could do anything.
00:50:17You don't love him.
00:50:18It's the impression you make on him.
00:50:22That's enough for me.
00:50:23But it's not love.
00:50:24It is love.
00:50:25It's such a puppy love.
00:50:27You're young.
00:50:28Yes, I am young.
00:50:32He loves me the same as I love him.
00:50:34He can achieve great things with me.
00:50:37You're pumping him with greatness.
00:50:40Maybe if you had shown up a little earlier,
00:50:42he would have received the Nobel Prize.
00:50:44I let him be great.
00:50:46Love is about mutual admiration.
00:50:53At least it's mutual.
00:50:56You're small, brutal, nothing.
00:51:00I've always seen in you a person with a lot of personal dignity.
00:51:05Dignity is your quality.
00:51:08It contains a unique advantage of mature women.
00:51:12Please, don't lose it.
00:51:15What are you afraid of?
00:51:17Nothing.
00:51:18I'm not afraid of anything.
00:51:19You're terrified that you might lose something.
00:51:22But what?
00:51:23A sense of security?
00:51:26You're hiding something.
00:51:27I don't know what you're talking about.
00:51:31How unlucky you must have been
00:51:34to infect others with it.
00:51:37Why do you have to be so vicious?
00:51:39I don't have to.
00:51:41It's just that your husband hasn't felt love for you for years.
00:51:44True, sexual love.
00:51:46It's not like that.
00:51:47You said it yourself.
00:51:49Of course not.
00:51:50I recorded it, Victoria.
00:51:55I'm not surprised.
00:51:57You recorded me.
00:52:00You recorded it so that you could use it at the right time.
00:52:07If it was like that, so what?
00:52:10It just shows how pragmatic you are.
00:52:14What does talent without pragmatism mean?
00:52:16You should be an expert in this matter.
00:52:19Why do women like you think that men go crazy over women who are tired?
00:52:24Men want women who, above all, think about themselves.
00:52:28I suppose you put it in your CV.
00:52:31Yours was long enough.
00:52:37I didn't think you could be so cruel.
00:52:42The truth is cruel.
00:52:44I only speak the truth.
00:52:47You love it, don't you?
00:52:49What?
00:52:51At first I thought you were like him, obsessed with something.
00:52:55But you really love it.
00:52:57I don't know what you're talking about.
00:52:59You really love it.
00:53:01Climbing to the top.
00:53:03Being at the center of attention.
00:53:06When you achieve something...
00:53:08The difference between us is that I'm not going to give up anything.
00:53:14Anyone.
00:53:15And you're happy.
00:53:20Shouldn't I be?
00:53:24Look at me.
00:53:26Please, look at me and say that you wouldn't want to be like me.
00:53:31You'd be a great writer.
00:53:33You'd be a great success if you were at least a little bit like me.
00:53:37Maybe your husband and I fell in love with each other,
00:53:40but I still feel that we are, in a way, much closer than he and I are.
00:53:45We?
00:53:47You're a determined woman.
00:53:50You have talent.
00:53:52Great writer's talent.
00:53:54You've got a chance now and don't waste it.
00:53:59We take a child by the hand, gently.
00:54:01We take them away from the cliff.
00:54:04The ashes of my father fall like rain.
00:54:08Soft and delicate, like silk.
00:54:10Don't you dare use my words.
00:54:13You shouldn't have lost that part of yourself.
00:54:18I haven't stopped writing.
00:54:19You haven't published anything for 20 years!
00:54:23My dear husband,
00:54:25didn't you dream that there would be a place for your sensitivity in the world?
00:54:30Weren't you nervous when you were published by people less capable than you?
00:54:34When you were pouring lamb sauce and correcting your husband's essays?
00:54:41Didn't you miss the warmth
00:54:44that gives readers admiration?
00:54:48You're the only one who can understand me.
00:54:55I'll make sure that nothing you've done for him goes to waste.
00:55:03You took my husband and you say you want to help me.
00:55:06I didn't have to take him. He came on his own.
00:55:10One day, your beautiful face will start to age.
00:55:18I take care of myself.
00:55:20Time takes care of us the most.
00:55:40We know each other.
00:55:54I finished my studies when you started them.
00:56:03We've missed each other.
00:56:05But you probably got the highest grade for your thesis.
00:56:09That's why they published it.
00:56:11I worked out the system of being the best student.
00:56:15All I had to do was understand how the universe works and get into that mechanism.
00:56:19I see.
00:56:20But in fact, I got the highest grade.
00:56:25But I lost the chance to be moved by the reading of the great Gatsby.
00:56:33For me, the Gatsby of the highest grades was a mistake.
00:56:38But maybe you're still moved by the literature.
00:56:40Maybe.
00:56:43I think I'm a big disappointment for my father.
00:56:51You couldn't not be noticed at the university.
00:56:55There was always a crowd around you.
00:56:58Indeed, there was always a crowd around me.
00:57:01The guys themselves.
00:57:04Maybe.
00:57:06Okay.
00:57:07Finish this initial game and get straight to the point.
00:57:11What do you choose?
00:57:15I fell in love with him.
00:57:16You fell in love with him in the shape of Gaopolin?
00:57:19I fell in love with him.
00:57:20And only with him.
00:57:21And not with his wife and daughter.
00:57:25If I agreed to meet you, it's not to look for acceptance and understanding in you.
00:57:32You're cruel.
00:57:35Cruel?
00:57:38I'm self-sensitive.
00:57:39And you say that?
00:57:41A person who destroys the lives of others?
00:57:43Whose life am I destroying?
00:57:45The life of my mother.
00:57:46I'm saving her.
00:57:47What?
00:57:49How old are you? 24?
00:57:51When will you finally understand that parents aren't just for you,
00:57:54that they no longer exist for every call you make?
00:57:58And my father is supposed to be there for every pinch of your finger?
00:58:02He wants to be happy.
00:58:04And my mother is supposed to be unhappy.
00:58:06That's why he's supposed to give up everything that life brings,
00:58:09just to respect your and your mother's feelings.
00:58:12And my mother is supposed to sacrifice everything so that he can swim in new happiness, right?
00:58:17He just wants to be loved.
00:58:19He is loved.
00:58:21Your father is a super temperamental guy.
00:58:24And he became like that only because of me.
00:58:26Stop it.
00:58:28Your father wants me.
00:58:30Stop it!
00:58:31I love how he treats me.
00:58:33I don't want to listen to this.
00:58:34With pleasure.
00:58:35Be quiet.
00:58:36I love it when he comes to me.
00:58:38Jesus, stop it, okay?
00:58:39When will you finally understand
00:58:42that who your parents are and how they live is not your problem?
00:58:47And no matter how hard you try, you won't change anything.
00:58:52Because you don't know them.
00:58:55You don't have to teach me who my parents are, because I know them very well.
00:58:59You don't know them at all.
00:59:02Very interesting.
00:59:06How many times have you talked to my mother?
00:59:08What are the characteristic motifs of her poetry?
00:59:12Have you read her poetry?
00:59:15Yes.
00:59:17This one about my father is the best.
00:59:22How can we know who our parents really are?
00:59:32When you look at the photos of your mother from years ago,
00:59:37and you discover what a seductive and sexy woman she was,
00:59:42don't you think,
00:59:44God, who is she pretending to be now?
00:59:47You can't know what your father needs,
00:59:52what he misses, what he regrets.
00:59:57You can't know how complicated their relationship was,
01:00:01who needed it,
01:00:03how much more love.
01:00:06But I know how my mother was addicted to my father.
01:00:09No.
01:00:11You're not that immature
01:00:14to simplify it all.
01:00:18You have to understand that your father loves me.
01:00:21No.
01:00:22You have to understand that your father loves me.
01:00:24No.
01:00:31Maybe you're so sure of yourself anyway.
01:00:40When I don't even know who I am,
01:00:45and it's so hard for me to express myself.
01:00:48I...
01:00:50Sometimes I don't sleep at night and...
01:00:52I analyze everything I've said and...
01:00:57I see how pointless it was.
01:01:02And where there are bad words,
01:01:05there is this feeling of impossibility.
01:01:10I felt it when I was very young
01:01:13and as if I was choking
01:01:16and life was going through my throat.
01:01:20And I couldn't stop it.
01:01:22It was some kind of jungle
01:01:26that surrounded me and...
01:01:30What protected me was only
01:01:33the image of my parents.
01:01:38I know, it's stupid because
01:01:40I'm an adult and...
01:01:43I shouldn't remember it, but...
01:01:46I...
01:01:50I was lying and I felt that they were next to me.
01:01:55In all their warmth and love, I...
01:02:00I felt loved.
01:02:03Now I feel that everything I had
01:02:06disappeared somewhere and...
01:02:08Although I'm an adult, I need it and...
01:02:13And I feel that...
01:02:20That I'd like to be like you.
01:02:42I...
01:02:56Where do you live now?
01:02:59With her, for now.
01:03:02I thought she...
01:03:04I have to live somewhere.
01:03:07Do you sleep with her?
01:03:08I live with her because it's the simplest solution.
01:03:13And I thought it was true when you said that...
01:03:18you're breaking up with me, not for her,
01:03:20but because you felt unhappy.
01:03:22In a way, it was.
01:03:25But now you live with her.
01:03:27I live with her, it's true.
01:03:28Could we change the subject?
01:03:30From Tuesday to Friday.
01:03:33It's Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
01:03:37Four days.
01:03:39Not bad.
01:03:42Four days to leave the old life behind and start a new one.
01:03:50And I knew what my life was like until Tuesday.
01:03:55Well, something has been changing between us for a long time.
01:04:00But you were hiding it.
01:04:03Nothing like that happened.
01:04:05Nothing?
01:04:06You were lying in bed next to me
01:04:08and you were only thinking about when you'd see her again.
01:04:11You were looking at me and you were thinking about her.
01:04:15You were a good husband until Tuesday.
01:04:18You didn't say anything.
01:04:20But you had to notice something.
01:04:22Artur, you're not an idiot.
01:04:26You were hiding it well.
01:04:29You were a good husband until Tuesday.
01:04:32I'm sorry.
01:04:35But on Friday you went with her to the book promotion.
01:04:39Yes, she was there.
01:04:41Madeleine told me about it with satisfaction.
01:04:46She said you were trying very hard
01:04:49to pretend that you weren't together.
01:04:55You left a minute after her.
01:04:58A very original behavior for lovers
01:05:01who try to keep their relationship discreet.
01:05:10From Tuesday to Friday.
01:05:13You knew I was invited there.
01:05:17As your wife for 32 years.
01:05:21Just like I was invited to almost 300 book promotions.
01:05:27But I didn't show up there.
01:05:29But you were there.
01:05:31I had to go.
01:05:32With her?
01:05:34There's nothing to delay.
01:05:37It won't help anyway.
01:05:39You're talking about keeping the company.
01:05:41Yes.
01:05:43I'm talking about keeping the company.
01:05:46Politeness and tact mean a lot.
01:05:51Our life goes on.
01:05:54Look at him.
01:05:56One week was enough for him.
01:05:58One week!
01:05:59You're getting hysterical.
01:06:01You're right.
01:06:02Promotion is a perfect way to start your new life.
01:06:07Someone came there with an umbrella, someone with his wife.
01:06:10And you came there with your new life.
01:06:13And it didn't cost you anything.
01:06:16From Tuesday to Friday.
01:06:18You just needed to switch one woman for another.
01:06:24You must have felt great there.
01:06:28Looking here, looking there.
01:06:31The whispers.
01:06:33And that swarm of voices following you as you walk through the room with her.
01:06:40Promotion of your new life.
01:06:42Let's not complicate things, it's not easy anyway.
01:06:45Let's sit down with Albert.
01:06:47With Albert?
01:06:48Let's try it somehow.
01:06:50With Albert?
01:06:51Yes, with Albert.
01:06:52It's probably the best solution.
01:06:54Albert is our lawyer.
01:06:57So...
01:06:59So you're bringing our whole lives to the legal question?
01:07:04My dear, everything in life is related to the law, except for feelings.
01:07:12Remember, I don't have to do this.
01:07:15I'm doing this out of concern for you.
01:07:17What does that mean?
01:07:20Well, I'd be in favor of sharing.
01:07:22Bravo.
01:07:24Of course, why wouldn't we share our property?
01:07:27Just remember, I worked hard for it.
01:07:31What for?
01:07:32For everything.
01:07:34And I don't?
01:07:35Of course.
01:07:37Albert will take care of your affairs.
01:07:40We have one house in the village, the other one here, and shares.
01:07:43If you want those houses, take them.
01:07:45Look carefully.
01:07:47You need security.
01:07:50And I can't afford to maintain two houses.
01:07:54But we can do it.
01:07:56I can promise you that.
01:07:58Promise?
01:08:01What can you promise me?
01:08:04Do you think I'll feel better right away?
01:08:08I'll call Albert and arrange for a meeting.
01:08:19I'll call Albert and arrange for a meeting.
01:08:42You know, I've been writing a review of your book,
01:08:45and I've only read half of it.
01:08:48Do you remember what you promised me?
01:08:50Well, yes.
01:08:51Next time we go to that concert,
01:08:54we'll listen and see
01:08:56whether it's dead socks or an eaten dog,
01:08:59as your bands are called.
01:09:01Okay?
01:09:02Okay, okay.
01:09:04Good girl.
01:09:11Who are you writing this for?
01:09:13For Everman from the quartermaster.
01:09:15Is he still the boss?
01:09:17Yes.
01:09:19Is he your friend?
01:09:21Yes, I've known Felix for years.
01:09:23He's my friend.
01:09:26I'd like to meet him.
01:09:31Maybe we should invite him.
01:09:35Next weekend.
01:09:37No problem.
01:09:47Hmm?
01:09:49Have you read it?
01:09:55I have.
01:09:57And?
01:10:00There are a few great places there.
01:10:04In literary terms, not bad.
01:10:07Very engaging.
01:10:09Not bad?
01:10:10A few scenes are really excellent.
01:10:12And when that girl talks to the boy in the club...
01:10:15Excellent.
01:10:18Excellent.
01:10:19I tried to keep the same ironic style.
01:10:23Right.
01:10:24I think I did it.
01:10:26Yes.
01:10:29This irony is really ironic.
01:10:33It's loveable.
01:10:35It's loveable.
01:10:36Really?
01:10:38I wanted to submit it to the publishing house.
01:10:41Well, you can, of course.
01:10:43No.
01:10:44Why not?
01:10:45What?
01:10:47You know, they sometimes reject it in many publishing houses.
01:10:50Before...
01:10:52You think they'll reject this text?
01:10:55You have to know, it's not an easy business.
01:10:58So for now.
01:11:00You're doing great interviews.
01:11:03What I wrote is bad.
01:11:07I don't know if I should talk about it.
01:11:10Say it.
01:11:14It's about the technique you use.
01:11:17How should I put it?
01:11:19Sometimes when you're building a character, you tend to simplify their character too much.
01:11:24The character of the character should be ambiguous.
01:11:29So I simplify it?
01:11:31Say it.
01:11:34It's about not speaking so bluntly.
01:11:38Too bluntly.
01:11:39Yes.
01:11:42But those are nuances.
01:11:45Nuances.
01:11:51And you know that...
01:11:52What?
01:11:55You closed yourself off in your way of thinking.
01:11:58But it's inevitable.
01:12:00The difference of generations.
01:12:02Probably.
01:12:04Now there's a new style, a new expression.
01:12:08So many new things are happening.
01:12:10Of course.
01:12:12Maybe what you said...
01:12:15Your opinion about my writing is not...
01:12:19It's not obligatory.
01:12:22You're...
01:12:23You'll definitely be a good writer.
01:12:26You're so beautiful.
01:12:32You're so beautiful.
01:12:41Confidential funds.
01:12:47Confidential funds.
01:12:49Let's talk about them.
01:12:51What?
01:12:52Let's sell them.
01:12:53What?
01:12:54We'll invest in government bonds.
01:12:58Let's sell the apartment.
01:13:00Then we'll have a small profit.
01:13:03We'll allocate the capital in half.
01:13:06We'll divide the dividend.
01:13:08And we'll invest again.
01:13:10As long as we have the courage.
01:13:12I can't believe it.
01:13:15There are also foreign real estate funds.
01:13:20Don't be stupid.
01:13:21It's just that this American-British company...
01:13:25I'm not entirely sure, but...
01:13:29You live once, you die twice.
01:13:33I don't know you.
01:13:35Why?
01:13:37You've never said that.
01:13:39I took to heart what you said.
01:13:41I'm practical.
01:13:42But I'm the one who invests.
01:13:44No, no, no, Artur.
01:13:46I'm doing it now.
01:13:47God's love is our future.
01:13:50You've never been interested in money.
01:13:53And you've never been interested in alienation.
01:13:57Don't you think this change is fantastic?
01:14:01You know what?
01:14:02Now that I've come to terms with everything that's happened,
01:14:06I've realized what I really loved.
01:14:12You can think of it as idiocy, but...
01:14:16I loved...
01:14:19our orderly life.
01:14:21I felt free in it.
01:14:25And I'd like you to remember what I said.
01:14:30And for one day to reach you...
01:14:36what it means to feel the lack of love.
01:14:39I love you.
01:14:47He doesn't know I'm here.
01:14:50He's in a bit of a hurry.
01:14:52Yes.
01:14:53Yes.
01:14:57Do you know what made the biggest impression on me
01:15:00when I came to you for the first time?
01:15:03Books.
01:15:04Lots of books.
01:15:06I didn't have any books at home.
01:15:09My parents didn't read much.
01:15:11If I ever have a child,
01:15:13I'll buy and read books.
01:15:17Zuzanna loved books since she was little.
01:15:20We read a lot of her books.
01:15:23When I interviewed for my book,
01:15:26I visited different houses.
01:15:28And I saw things that were completely normal for the housekeepers.
01:15:33But for me, they weren't normal at all.
01:15:38Now I know that...
01:15:40your daughter was very lucky.
01:15:43Our daughter.
01:15:47I'd like to be as lucky as her.
01:15:50I dreamed of having parents like you.
01:15:54Like us?
01:15:57Full of wisdom, believing in ideals.
01:16:00When I met you, I felt like I'd made you up.
01:16:05As if I'd seen the future.
01:16:09And I was always afraid of the future.
01:16:12I was afraid it would bring something that would destroy my happiness.
01:16:18Maybe that fear was a defense against a disaster.
01:16:23And when the disaster really came,
01:16:28everything turned out to be so ordinary.
01:16:36Do you still love him?
01:16:40I don't know.
01:16:42Please, tell me, because...
01:16:45But I don't want to go back to that.
01:16:48And don't make me have to watch you grow up.
01:16:53I want you to know that...
01:16:55Now, everything is different.
01:16:59And between us,
01:17:02I've finally begun to understand something of all this.
01:17:10It wasn't easy for me.
01:17:12But I live, I write,
01:17:16and I manage to survive somehow.
01:17:19And I think it's good
01:17:24if I were to go back to what it was.
01:17:29Maybe I would, but...
01:17:36Listen, Claudio.
01:17:38Do what you have to do.
01:17:42Live the life you need.
01:17:47It's your lesson to learn.
01:17:49I'm not interested in it.
01:17:54All I know is that...
01:17:57I used to be with someone.
01:18:02And now I'm alone.
01:18:05And maybe it's for the best.
01:18:09Yes or no,
01:18:12it's already happened.
01:18:14Will you forgive me?
01:18:17When I imagine you
01:18:20as a tiny, sensitive being
01:18:23who loves and is loved,
01:18:28I think that...
01:18:29God,
01:18:31I wish I could write like you do.
01:18:35Try it.
01:18:38And you think it will be better for her?
01:18:41Maybe.
01:18:42And for me?
01:18:43Maybe too.
01:18:45Tell me,
01:18:46now that I'm all mixed up
01:18:49and I can't lift you up in a very short skirt,
01:18:53haven't you wondered
01:18:56what I've actually done?
01:18:58Are you saying I've done something wrong?
01:19:01You have to answer this question objectively,
01:19:04but you may not like the answer.
01:19:08I did what I should have done.
01:19:11Not everyone would do that.
01:19:13No.
01:19:14He wouldn't leave his wife just like that.
01:19:17He would probably continue to live
01:19:19in the mysterious world of his dreams.
01:19:21Although I don't know how it would bother him,
01:19:24he wouldn't change his mind.
01:19:26Because he's a coward.
01:19:28Or maybe he knows something more about love.
01:19:30Love?
01:19:31What kind of love?
01:19:34The kind I really want.
01:19:36But our love is real.
01:19:38You and I are real.
01:19:40And your wife,
01:19:42she's real too.
01:19:48Maybe we don't know true love,
01:19:50because we can't refuse anything.
01:19:53Are you saying I can't refuse anything?
01:19:57Yes, maybe I've only resigned from my good life.
01:20:02Only mine.
01:20:04Do you think I haven't thought about it?
01:20:07Thirty years.
01:20:09Thirty-two years.
01:20:12But I didn't ask you for that.
01:20:14No.
01:20:15No.
01:20:16I remember.
01:20:17I remember exactly what I told you,
01:20:18that I don't expect anything from you,
01:20:20that you're a free man.
01:20:21Free, yes?
01:20:22Yes, free.
01:20:25I don't regret anything.
01:20:29Although I know perfectly well what I've lost.
01:20:32Yes, I know.
01:20:35At least I know what my ambitions are,
01:20:38my goals, my successes,
01:20:40all my hopes,
01:20:41everything I wanted.
01:20:42I know I won't achieve it.
01:20:44I know my mind is never equal to a genius.
01:20:49But what could be better than the awareness
01:20:51that you know who you've become?
01:20:54I've left everything to love you.
01:20:58I'd really like you to love me.
01:21:01I love you.
01:21:02There's only you and me.
01:21:05And her, Victoria.
01:21:07I feel her presence all the time.
01:21:08Stop talking about her.
01:21:10I even envy her for being lost and lonely.
01:21:14I know. You admire my wife.
01:21:17What do you think?
01:21:19That I don't have such feelings?
01:21:23Of course you do.
01:21:26You said something else when you read my text.
01:21:30That's not what I meant.
01:21:36Tell me.
01:21:38How can you not love me?
01:21:41You don't know?
01:21:46I'm so sorry.
01:21:57Do you know what our daughter said about her book?
01:22:01That it's just printed paper.
01:22:04All about Susanna.
01:22:08She didn't want us to come to the promotion.
01:22:11She said it didn't matter to her.
01:22:16But I told her we're very proud of her.
01:22:19Very.
01:22:22Our little darling.
01:22:24She was always so critical of you.
01:22:28But she did very well.
01:22:32Thanks for sending me your new book.
01:22:35You got it?
01:22:37Excellent.
01:22:39But you didn't write anything.
01:22:41Nothing.
01:22:43You know...
01:22:46This poem...
01:22:47This one?
01:22:49I couldn't read it easily.
01:22:54Excellent.
01:22:58You had great reviews.
01:23:01I didn't write anything special.
01:23:03No?
01:23:05Only the truth.
01:23:08You know what's funny?
01:23:11There's one thing in your poem.
01:23:15Don't say anything.
01:23:18One thing.
01:23:20No.
01:23:23I miss what happened.
01:23:26What happened to us.
01:23:29I felt really safe.
01:23:32But it's too...
01:23:34I did.
01:23:36But it is.
01:23:59It is.
01:24:04It is.
01:24:09It is.
01:24:14It is.
01:24:19It is.
01:24:24It is.
01:24:29It is.
01:24:34It is.