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Heated Political Situation | PTI And Maulana Fazal ur Rehman's Strategy? | Experts Analysis
Heated Political Situation | PTI And Maulana Fazal ur Rehman's Strategy? | Experts Analysis
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, viewers. You are watching the program with Kashif Abbasi.
00:02Let me first introduce our guests.
00:04We have with us Mr. Shahid Bhatti, Mr. Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar and Mr. Rauf Qalasa.
00:09Our friends are present in the program.
00:11We would like to see the situation.
00:13Usually, on Eid, it is said that something will happen after Eid.
00:17Why do you say that after Eid, there will be a crackdown?
00:21After Eid, there will be a campaign.
00:23After Eid, there will be a protest.
00:25After Eid, this will happen.
00:27Why is Eid such a big factor?
00:29Maybe because...
00:31Because nothing was happening before Eid.
00:33Yes, nothing was happening before Eid.
00:35And then there are holidays.
00:37All of Pakistan goes on holidays.
00:39And we have become so used to rollercoaster rides,
00:41that we find holidays to be meaningless.
00:43We think that there is no work for 4-5 days a week.
00:45There is no crisis.
00:47So when these 4-5 days are over,
00:49when everyone comes back to work,
00:51then there will be a new fight.
00:53By the way, in Pakistan, holidays are our own crisis.
00:55Yes, this is also true.
00:57But it seems that,
00:59in my opinion,
01:01after Eid,
01:03the most important thing is that
01:05on 24th and 25th,
01:07the Supreme Court has filed a case
01:09for special sessions.
01:11And if there is any effect of any decision
01:13on the coming politics,
01:15then it will be the effect of this special session case.
01:17If the governmental unity gets these seats back,
01:19then it means that
01:21you are ready for some constitutional reforms.
01:23In those constitutional reforms,
01:25anything can happen.
01:27The judges can be rotated.
01:29The judges can be extended.
01:31The judges can be extended.
01:33So a constitutional package will come
01:35in the name of reforms.
01:37The tenure of the Chief Justice
01:39can be increased.
01:41And if this decision is not in their favour,
01:43the decision of the governmental unity,
01:45and this decision,
01:47supposedly,
01:49the way the court proceedings took place,
01:51in which Qazi Faizisa Sahib also said,
01:53that the interpretation of my judgement
01:55was wrong by the ECP,
01:57and goes back to Tehreek-e-Insaf,
01:59then it will be a big shock for the government.
02:01It will be disturbed
02:03to a great extent
02:05by the two-thirds majority
02:07and the future game plan.
02:09Then in October,
02:11Mansoor Ali Shah Sahib will come,
02:13holds a good reputation till now,
02:15and is seen as a balanced judge.
02:17So I think some sanity
02:19will be seen in the system again.
02:21So for you,
02:23this is the biggest thing after Eid,
02:25that this case of the Supreme Court,
02:27will disturb many things.
02:29For me personally,
02:31this case of the Islamabad Tribunal is very important.
02:33The second important thing is this.
02:35The reason for this is,
02:37you yourself have gone to Mahabodolat
02:39in that case with your Form 45.
02:41And you have matched it.
02:43And you are saying that the government is lying,
02:45that their MNAs have lost.
02:47These independent PTI people,
02:49they have won.
02:51My Form 45 says this.
02:53And there are other parties in front of you,
02:55like Jamaat-e-Islami.
02:57Because it can have a snowballing effect.
02:59I will come to the snowballing effect.
03:01Because Farma was the only one in the country.
03:03After 1947.
03:05So 45 doesn't match anywhere.
03:07First of all, these cases are very important.
03:09And as they said,
03:11after Eid.
03:13In Eid, political parties also say that
03:15we have just started something.
03:17And after 4-5 days of Eid,
03:19nothing happens.
03:21There is a break.
03:23The rest also say that
03:25we have to release people on the day of Eid.
03:27There is a roll-up.
03:29If a person is not at home on Eid,
03:31then it is wrong.
03:33What is the most important case for you?
03:35What will you see?
03:37This is what I am looking forward to.
03:39This will be a turning point event.
03:41After Eid.
03:43Definitely.
03:45The cases that are being heard in Islamabad
03:47are very important.
03:49The case of 6 judges
03:51is also very important.
03:53What happens in it?
03:55Where does the court go?
03:57Three high courts are behind it.
03:59And apart from this,
04:01the Punjab Cabinet has also agreed
04:03to take action against Imran Khan.
04:05And the video of Sheikh Mujib...
04:07You have to add one thing to this.
04:09Do you remember the story of Ansari Abbas?
04:11Two came at a time.
04:13He said that Tosha Khana 2
04:15is worth 190 million.
04:17All these cases are ready.
04:19We have to keep Imran Khan in jail for a year.
04:21New cases.
04:23The case of Nikah Mehkali
04:25is also coming out.
04:27The case of £190 million has been challenged.
04:29There is a lot going on in the courts.
04:31You are not seen on the streets.
04:33No, not on the streets.
04:35PTI, Maulana...
04:37Yes, Maulana and PTI
04:39will go on a light roll-up.
04:41But...
04:43The weather is always a big factor.
04:45Most of the cases are
04:47simple cases.
04:49Imran Khan said that he is looking
04:51at you.
04:53So, the Supreme Court
04:55and the judges are very important.
04:57So, for you, the Supreme Court's cases...
04:59It's an interesting thing.
05:01The other day,
05:03I asked
05:05Mr. Modi
05:07and Mr. Nawaz Sharif
05:09to come and change the hate.
05:11I was expecting
05:13from the Heathrow report,
05:15Minar-e-Pakistan,
05:178th February,
05:19that I wish
05:21someone would come
05:23and change the hate.
05:25There is a need for hope.
05:27This is true.
05:29But we need to
05:31fix this with India.
05:33This is a very good thing.
05:35No, it's a very good thing.
05:37There should be a consensus
05:39on how to do this.
05:41You can't just do one thing
05:43and do the other.
05:45Brother, when you are fighting
05:47in your own house,
05:49people won't talk to you
05:51when you are going out
05:53and slapping people.
05:55What do you see as big factors?
05:57I have a different reading.
05:59I will differ from
06:01Mustafa Bhai.
06:03I think the main case,
06:05and there is a reason for it,
06:07you must have seen
06:09that the Supreme Court
06:11has not reversed
06:13all the decisions
06:15made by the Election Commission.
06:17They say that the Election Commission
06:19is a separate institution.
06:21They have accepted the decisions
06:23of the Supreme Court.
06:25We have seen in the past
06:27that there were 3-4 big decisions.
06:29There is a lot of hope
06:31that the Supreme Court
06:33will take the decision.
06:35The ECP has given the decision
06:37to the High Court.
06:39The High Court has upholded
06:41the decision.
06:43The people's party
06:45can't get the decision.
06:47The law says that
06:49they can't get the decision
06:51because they didn't answer
06:53the list.
06:55This is a very interesting
06:57way to send the Parliament
06:59back to the Supreme Court
07:01in an extreme position.
07:03I am saying this in the past.
07:05The Supreme Court has given
07:07ownership to the decisions.