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PMLN nay Muhammad Zubair ko Apne Circle say Bahir Kiyu Kiya? Zubair Umar's big Revelations
PMLN nay Muhammad Zubair ko Apne Circle say Bahir Kiyu Kiya? Zubair Umar's big Revelations
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00:00 At what stage and when you parted company with Muslim League and leadership?
00:07 Or when they pushed you out of the inner circle, what was the reason?
00:15 I have discussed this many times.
00:19 There is a case of Mifta Ismail.
00:22 He was involved in one incident and he said that he is not acceptable.
00:27 When he was told in London that Ishaq Dar will become the Minister of Treasury and you will not be the Minister of Treasury.
00:34 He took that issue and said that he will not be a part of the party.
00:39 He was upset with that day. I did not have any such thing.
00:44 It is a process. I was very much part of PMLN.
00:51 I have always said that the last political event before the vote of no confidence was
01:00 Mahingai Mukav March 26, 2022 in Lahore. It was Mariam Nawaz, Hamza Shibaz, me, Mariam Aurangzeb,
01:11 Musadeq Malik, Daniel Aziz. They were definitely in the same container.
01:16 It is a two to three day journey. You know that we will reach Gujranwala on the first day and then we will leave.
01:21 So, at that time, these things were happening when we came to know about the vote of no confidence.
01:26 It is the end of January. I came to know in London that the vote of no confidence was being discussed.
01:32 So, at that time, there were a lot of serious disagreements.
01:37 In fact, I will tell you that all the people around me, the political fighters with whom we were,
01:44 almost everyone had a strong disagreement. And it was very strange that what are we doing now?
01:51 Because it is obvious that slowly we were finding out who is supporting whom.
01:56 And we had taken a public stance before that that the vote of no confidence can never be successful in Pakistan
02:03 until the support of the establishment. Take the statements of November 2021 by Hassan Iqbal,
02:09 Shahid Khan Abbasi, Maryam Nawaz, and others. I myself had said that the vote of no confidence can never be successful.
02:16 So, when we asked this question at the end of January and February, that how is it being successful now?
02:22 And there will be no embarrassment for us. Where will we get the vote?
02:26 So, they said, don't worry. The parties with them, MKM and Baab Party, we know who they are supporting.
02:36 On whose signal they went with Imran Khan and on whose signal they need only one phone call, they come to this side.
02:43 So, my exact question was that the compromise that we will make will be very bad.
02:50 And what will happen to the struggle of the last four years if we had to compromise here?
02:56 Mr. Zubair, Mr. Nakri will ask you a question now. But what you said, Mr. Zubair,
03:02 you were a part of this whole process. Recently, in Lahore, they called Shahid Khan Abbasi and others,
03:09 but they didn't call you. I don't know where you did something wrong. Mr. Nakri, ask a question.
03:15 I am on a single finger.
03:17 Yes, Mr. Nakri.
03:18 I just want to ask a small thing. What we are discussing here is the decision-making.
03:23 Mr. Nawaz Sharif as a party leader or as a Prime Minister.
03:27 And obviously, those who have the power, we discuss their decision-making and see their decisions later,
03:33 after some time, whether they were better or worse.
03:36 I would just like to ask Mr. Zubair, he has been Governor of Sindh for a long time.
03:40 He told us what the Pakistani people did while staying in Sindh as Governor of Sindh for his party.
03:46 I would like to know that too.
03:48 The Governor has the power, Mr. Nakri.
03:50 I have heard your comments before, but I have no hesitation.
03:57 But this was the last time.
03:59 I became Governor in February 2017.
04:04 And you know that on April 20, the first Supreme Court decision was passed,
04:10 in which 3-2 was left out, and JIT was made.
04:17 And it was a very comprehensive decision and obviously, it was a setback.
04:21 But PM LN showed that it was a victory.
04:24 What I mean to say is that the difficulties,
04:27 when the case of Panama was going on in March-February,
04:30 the difficulties started at that time.
04:32 And you being a Governor, when it happened on April 20,
04:37 I would like to tell you that I made a proposal in those two months,
04:42 and there were commitments from the federal government in Sindh,
04:47 which the federal government, in all sincerity,
04:50 Mr. Nawaz Sharif accepted that we had said.
04:53 And during this period, in two and a half months, Mr. Nakri,
04:56 I will tell you this, because Mr. Nawaz Sharif had told me
04:59 that you should do something about the Muslim League in Sindh.
05:02 So between February 4, 2017 and April 20, we had held 4 Jalsas.
05:08 One was in Nawabshah, one was in Hyderabad,
05:12 one was in Norder-e-Firoz and one was somewhere else.
05:15 The second thing I said to Mr. Nawaz Sharif was that
05:18 in three and a half years, you have not spent a single night in Sindh.
05:21 This is the second biggest province of the financial hub of Pakistan.
05:26 If you come and go with your hands in your hands,
05:29 and your other ministers too, how can the Muslim League rise there?
05:33 So you come and stay there, right?
05:35 And that was at the end of February or at the beginning of March.
05:39 So they started coming and they started staying there.
05:42 And their meetings, which was a grievance of the business community here,
05:46 the Muslim League workers, who used to say that
05:49 we have not met the Prime Minister in three and a half years.
05:52 So that was all started at that time.
05:54 But after the decision of April 20, the politics was over.
05:58 And at that time, the politics of protection was being done,
06:00 that somehow, from April 20 to July 17,
06:04 maybe the decision was made on 28,
06:06 the decision was made from 5-0, in which it was not helped.
06:10 After that, we did not have a government, we did not have power.
06:14 And I will tell you one example of that.
06:16 Mr. Nawaz Sharif was coming to the accountability court in September.
06:20 The Minister of Internal Affairs was Ahsan Iqbal.
06:23 One of the small offices under him stopped him from going inside.
06:28 He was challenged in front of the whole world,
06:32 that either he will stay or I will stay.
06:34 And then he went to the Prime Minister, Shahid Khan Abbasi,
06:37 that I will not stay, you take his class.
06:40 So Shahid Khan Abbasi replied to him that,
06:43 brother, you will have to work in this, you are so small.
06:46 Absolutely, this is Hasan Ayub.
06:47 So that just showed that the bureaucrats and all had removed their hands,
06:51 and nothing was left for us.
06:53 And I was of his opinion at that time, there were other people,
06:57 that we should dissolve the assemblies and go for elections.
07:00 Because we will not be able to do anything in the next 11 months.
07:05 The second opinion was that all the projects under the Bijli Commitments,
07:13 which are being put on the final stage, of LNG and all,
07:16 if we do not do this, then we will have to respond in the election.
07:20 So with that logic, we completed the entire term.
07:25 Otherwise, according to me, we do not have any power to vote.
07:28 Mr. Ahmed Zubair, my question is from your point itself,
07:31 that you said that at the end of January,
07:34 talks in your party regarding no confidence had started.
07:39 If your talks started at the end of January,
07:43 then it means that what Imran Khan says that I went to Russia,
07:47 and the US showed displeasure on it,
07:50 and then because of this, the support of regime change and foreign conspiracy,
07:54 which is his propaganda, then the ground is thinking,
07:57 like you are saying that you had already made a plan of vote of no confidence,
08:01 so at the time of vote of no confidence, at the time of January,
08:04 there was no repetition of Russia, and neither did he go there.
08:09 I don't think you are right.
08:13 When the talks started inside,
08:15 then at the end of February, in the second half of February,
08:18 he went, maybe on 24th February, Imran Khan went to Russia.
08:23 At that time, it was confirmed to a large extent,
08:27 that on 8th March, vote of no confidence was gathered in front of the speaker.
08:34 I don't think what was the relationship between the two.
08:37 But one point of Imran Khan, which I agree with,
08:42 that he is right, there was a lot of support of the establishment,
08:45 there is no doubt about it.
08:47 I think now all the evidences are there,
08:49 but there is not a single person, how many people of PMLN,
08:52 who have accepted this thing, publicly accepted,
08:56 that there was support of the establishment.
08:58 Zubair bhai, we have not seen your political future in PTI in the coming days.
09:01 Tell us, in the coming days, can we see Mohammad Zubair in PTI?
09:06 Is there PTI in the future?
09:08 See, at this time, Hassan, the situation in Pakistan,
09:13 it is exactly the same, when Zia ul Haq had put the martial law,
09:18 even if the politicians at that time were deadly against Bhutto,
09:24 in which Azhar Khan was there, Mufti Mehmood was there,
09:27 they were deadly against, but at that time they had to make a choice,
09:31 they had to choose, either they should stand behind Zia ul Haq,
09:34 or go to anti-Zia camp.
09:37 If they go to anti-Zia camp, then they were leading,
09:39 Bhutto, Nusrat Bhutto was leading on their behalf.
09:42 They all went there, because at that time,
09:44 they had to save the democracy, at that time, the future of Pakistan,
09:47 which was with the democracy, was in danger.
09:50 And we all saw in the future, what Zia ul Haq did and what he did not do.
09:55 So, there is a time when you don't do this,
09:59 that how was Bhutto's performance?
10:01 If we oppose Zia, then what will Bhutto benefit from it?
10:06 This was not the choice that many people make these days,
10:09 that if you are having human rights violations,
10:12 which are happening in a full way by this government,
10:15 if you condemn him, then people say that it will mean supporting Imran Khan.
10:20 So, if Imran Khan is his beneficiary, then let it be.
10:24 But I don't want that you take him to Sargodha, Mianwali, Lahore again and again,
10:30 and if someone condemns him, or what I was saying just now,
10:33 the question was asked that why should Imran Khan be in jail?
10:36 The way I opposed Imran Khan, I don't think anyone can claim more than me,
10:40 no one can do more than me.
10:42 So, I can't stand behind the political class that is undermining democracy in Pakistan.