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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, I am Maryam Meeman and today's top stories is about Dialogue.
00:18Govt. says to talk about it.
00:20Law says to talk about our mandate first and then release our prisoners.
00:25We will talk about it later.
00:27Is there any dialogue available now or not?
00:29We will talk about it in the first part of the program.
00:31After that, what is the reason behind electricity being expensive?
00:33Today, we will explain the electricity bill to you.
00:36And we will tell you why electricity is the most expensive in this sector in Pakistan.
00:41And how many hidden taxes and costs are you paying for it.
00:44So, do watch this second segment.
00:46You will understand the reason for your electricity bills.
00:49In the end, Israel has blown the decision of the International Court of Justice into the air.
00:53We will talk about it.
00:55But let's start with the dialogue.
00:57The first meeting was held yesterday.
01:01In fact, it was held a day before that.
01:03CMKP was not invited to that meeting.
01:06But in the meeting held yesterday, Mr. Gandapur was invited.
01:10He was sitting there.
01:11When the meeting was held and he came out, he was asked a question.
01:14What did you talk about there?
01:16Did you talk about Mr. Imran Khan?
01:19What answer did Mr. Gandapur give?
01:22Mr. Imran Khan is our priority number one.
01:24We have always said that.
01:25We are committed to him.
01:27We have a movement.
01:28We have a movement for our leader.
01:29We are running it.
01:30But there is a separate conversation for him which has started.
01:32And Mr. Imran Khan has notified us.
01:35People have notified us that we can talk to him.
01:37Our conversation has started at that level.
01:39Did you say anything to him?
01:40Yes, I did.
01:41I did it twice.
01:42Did you talk to him about this?
01:46When I get a chance to talk to him, I don't think I need to talk to him here.
01:51What we are deducing from Ali Umeen Gandapur's statement is that
01:55there is already a conversation going on somewhere.
01:57That is why he did not find it appropriate to raise this issue in the SIFC.
02:01When the channels are already open, why should we sit there and talk to him?
02:05This is deduced from his statement.
02:09But how should we talk to him?
02:11Who will talk to him?
02:13And who has the authority?
02:15The legitimate concerns are on the government's side.
02:19Mr. Rana Sanaullah, who is a representative of the government, says that
02:22if we follow all the rules of justice,
02:25then we will be in jail.
02:27And then our situation will be bad.
02:29So what does the PMLN think should be the starting point for negotiations?
02:33Please listen to this.
02:34They say, first give us our mandate.
02:38Let all our prisoners go.
02:40Then return our mandate to the government.
02:43Then what should we do?
02:44Then we will be in jail.
02:46Then why should we negotiate?
02:49Mr. Mustafa Kamal interviewed Mr. Waseem Badami two days ago on our channel.
02:54And he was asked, what is the way forward?
02:57The system is going into a deadlock.
02:59All the factors in this are worrying.
03:02All the stakeholders are trapped.
03:05If people think that this is not the case,
03:07then they are living in another world.
03:08What will be the solution?
03:09He said, give way to the establishment.
03:13I am saying that Nawaz Sharif and Imran Khan should become one.
03:17Everyone should talk to each other.
03:19And everyone should talk to the establishment.
03:22Give them a way out.
03:25You tell them that we will take care of you.
03:28This will not happen.
03:30Mr. Rana Sanaullah said an interesting thing on our show.
03:35He said that talks are taking place.
03:38Not with Mr. Tariq-e-Insaaf, but with the rest of his allies.
03:41I mentioned Mr. Chakzai, Mr. Mangal, Mr. Moulana Fazl-ur-Rehman.
03:44He said that talks are taking place.
03:47We are in contact with them.
03:49They cannot disclose anything further.
03:51If you want to start a grand dialogue,
03:54then you can start it with your former allies.
03:57Our talks have always been going on.
04:01It will continue.
04:03They are not people who will not talk.
04:07They are people who believe in dialogue.
04:10Have you had any contact with these communities?
04:12Some things are not appropriate to do ahead of time.
04:16And then he met with Moulana Fazl-ur-Rehman.
04:21And that was on 23rd.
04:23Mr. Fahad Shahbaz told us on our show yesterday.
04:25He also said in his own vlog.
04:26After that, there was a news from Mr. Shahid Aslam.
04:28In which he said that Moulana Fazl-ur-Rehman has been offered the chairmanship of the Public Account Committee.
04:34So let's see how far this conversation goes.
04:36We have Asad Qaisar with us.
04:38He is a former speaker.
04:39Thank you very much.
04:40He has a connection with Tehreek-e-Insaf.
04:42First of all, I think we should come to Ali Amin Ghandapur's statement.
04:46I will read what he said exactly.
04:48Because talks are already going on.
04:51And Mr. Khan's release is a priority.
04:54That is why he did not talk to the Army Chief in the SIFC.
04:57He talked about something else twice.
04:59So some channels are open to meet and talk.
05:02There are some contacts.
05:04That is why Mr. Ghandapur said there that he is not talking.
05:07We are talking somewhere else.
05:08And we will talk there.
05:09In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
05:11Right now, I do not have much knowledge about this.
05:15And I have a meeting right now.
05:18We have a meeting right after your program.
05:21So I will ask a little about what it is.
05:24And I will take the information.
05:27But I think that first of all, whenever you talk, there is a need for seriousness.
05:34The government says to make fun or whatever it is.
05:38For that, there should be some steps for trust.
05:44And our grievance, our main grievance is that our mandate has been stolen.
05:50And it is not just a mandate theft.
05:52Number one, we say that till 8th February,
05:56from the election till 8th February, all the events that happened with us,
06:01every child knows that the way our ballot was snatched from us,
06:06the way we were tortured,
06:08we were not given a chance to take Mansoor in public.
06:14And whatever could have happened, it was used against us.
06:18And after that, the people who reacted,
06:21that is, they gave us brinjal, pumpkin, doll, that kind of thing.
06:28Despite this, the people gave us mandate.
06:31And then at night, on 45th, it was changed to 47th.
06:35There are other results in 47th and 45th.
06:38That is, if there is to be a discussion,
06:40then first of all, we will have to address our grievances.
06:43And I will suggest, see, I mean, we have never said that we do not talk.
06:47We say that the point is that first of all, you should address our grievances.
06:52That is, we are victims.
06:54Who should address your grievances?
06:56Whoever is in power at the moment.
06:58PMLN?
06:59The power corridors.
07:00PMLN?
07:01The government or...
07:03Mr. Shahbaz, Mr. Shahbaz should address.
07:05No, no, I will talk.
07:06The question is that what they say,
07:09what they say is that come and negotiate,
07:11and they say that they are not ready to negotiate.
07:13First of all, you should negotiate.
07:16On the one hand, you should talk.
07:18On the other hand, you should arrest our people.
07:21On the other hand, you should make new cases against us.
07:24On the other hand, you should put more restrictions against our leader.
07:27Sometimes the cabinet, the Punjab cabinet should make a decision.
07:29Practically, you do one thing.
07:31That is why we do not take it seriously.
07:33The talks of the Muslim League and the government are only to show to the public,
07:38for talk shows, it is not practical.
07:41When it will be serious and when we will understand that something serious is happening,
07:45and the men who are now in our women's prisons,
07:49who are now in our leadership prisons,
07:52and how the restrictions have been made against them,
07:56we understand that...
07:58We do not say that you should release them.
08:00You leave the law,
08:03the pressure behind it,
08:05you put a gun, you take the gun back,
08:07we will fight our cases according to the law.
08:09So, we say that first of all,
08:11these negotiations should be made.
08:13If you understand correctly,
08:15if anyone understands that negotiations should be made,
08:17then we understand, this is my personal opinion,
08:20my personal opinion,
08:21that you go to Form 45,
08:23and to Form 47,
08:25we have the records.
08:26Okay, this is your strong demand that
08:28those who live under Form 45,
08:31their mandate should be fulfilled.
08:33PM LN says that if we do this,
08:36if we listen to everything you say,
08:37then you will come,
08:38after that your government will be formed,
08:40then all these people will go to jail,
08:42then all the changes will take place,
08:43then all the scores will be settled.
08:45That is why he is talking to you about this issue.
08:47Why is he talking about your conditions?
08:49Because he thinks that when he talks about your conditions,
08:51then he will go to jail,
08:52you will come to power,
08:54and then you can do everything with him,
08:56as it is happening now.
08:58They think that we have not done this,
09:00that we have not stolen.
09:02Brother, you say that we have not done it,
09:04we say that we have done it.
09:05So, we have brought it to the public,
09:06we have brought it to the Parliament.
09:07We have all the traditional documents,
09:10which we have,
09:11which they have made,
09:12which they have made,
09:13whatever the method is.
09:14We have brought it to the Parliament.
09:16In front of the Parliament,
09:18the whole House,
09:19which is the Parliament,
09:20in fact the Senate and National Assembly,
09:22should become a joint Parliament.
09:24All those who are in it,
09:26from the 45th,
09:27should be kept in front of the nation,
09:29the fake ones,
09:30the fake people should be removed,
09:32and the real owners should be supported.
09:34This is something that should not be done,
09:35they will not do this.
09:36This is something that should not be done.
09:37This is something that should not be done.
09:38You are saying that they should come and say,
09:40we have left the government,
09:41this is Form 45,
09:42you should come,
09:43you should become the Prime Minister,
09:44you have the majority.
09:45This is something that should not be done,
09:47why would they do this?
09:48Because the public has rejected it.
09:50He calls himself the elected Prime Minister.
09:53If they have any moral courage,
09:56any shame,
09:57any modesty,
09:58then they should say that
09:59the public has not given the mandate.
10:01And tell me,
10:02the crisis,
10:03how come it does not have public support?
10:05How will they get the country out of this crisis?
10:07I think that in the Parliament,
10:09we are ready to negotiate.
10:11In that case,
10:12you should call the Form 45
10:14in the Joint Session,
10:15all the Parliaments,
10:17you should make a committee,
10:21all the Form 45 should come forward,
10:25there should be a debate,
10:27there should be a discussion,
10:28if our claim is wrong,
10:30then the world will know.
10:31So can there be a negotiation on these conditions?
10:33Yes, definitely.
10:34How is this possible?
10:35This means that you have opened the doors
10:37of negotiations with Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman.
10:39You have not put such extreme conditions.
10:42Maulana has put such extreme conditions
10:44because he thinks that
10:45you have got his mandate in the KP.
10:47This is an agreement.
10:48But he has not put such strict conditions
10:50to talk,
10:51that first you accept our mandate,
10:53then we will talk.
10:54So the negotiations that you are doing
10:56with Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman,
10:57there is relaxation,
10:58there is room for negotiation.
11:00Here there is no room for negotiation.
11:01So how will this progress?
11:02Look, the first thing is that
11:04the grievances of Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman,
11:06we have said that
11:07if anyone has grievances on any of our seats,
11:10then we are always ready.
11:11I am telling you officially,
11:12we are absolutely ready.
11:13Have you conveyed this to Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman
11:15when your negotiations were taking place?
11:17No, he did not even demand.
11:19If there is any demand,
11:20then we are ready.
11:21Look, we are not ready to sit on any fake mandate.
11:24I will tell you one thing,
11:27Madam,
11:28he forced me,
11:32either he robbed me or he stole from me.
11:34And then he says,
11:36come and talk to me.
11:38He slapped me,
11:39made cases against me.
11:41He said,
11:42we want negotiations,
11:43he is running away from negotiations.
11:45We say,
11:46first of all,
11:47our grievances are that
11:48you have stolen our mandate.
11:49Okay.
11:50If you have stolen our mandate,
11:51then first of all,
11:52you have to accept these grievances.
11:54I mean,
11:55negotiations are based on grievances.
11:57First of all,
11:58you have to address our security.
12:00If you do not address our security,
12:02and you say,
12:03you have to accept us,
12:04that we are like this,
12:05we are like that,
12:06this cannot happen.
12:07But on some things,
12:08these securities have been addressed
12:09without even talking.
12:10For example,
12:11in Punjab,
12:12there were five sessions of the Senate,
12:13on which you,
12:14with agreement,
12:15you people,
12:16without any competition,
12:17there,
12:18you have decided your sessions
12:19in accordance with the vote.
12:20This happened.
12:21The sessions of the Senate Assembly,
12:22sorry,
12:23there are committees,
12:24in that,
12:25what will be its coordination?
12:26On that too,
12:27people are talking.
12:28Sitting in the SIFC,
12:29sitting inside,
12:30talking,
12:31there,
12:32there is a discussion.
12:33So,
12:34there are instances,
12:35where,
12:36you people,
12:37and they too,
12:38have taken out the opportunity
12:39to run the system,
12:40together.
12:41I have got you counted
12:42from three SIFCs.
12:43In this,
12:44you are,
12:45not just now,
12:46we did it earlier too.
12:47Yes,
12:48yes,
12:49I am saying this.
12:50No,
12:51in the Senate,
12:52actually,
12:53we did it in 2018 too.
12:54At that time,
12:55what we did was,
12:56the greed for money,
12:57and to finish the Parliament,
12:58this is a very big thing,
12:59isn't it?
13:00There is one mechanism.
13:01Now,
13:02how can I tell you?
13:03You get someone to do a survey.
13:05Or,
13:06you tell some law,
13:07make some law,
13:08make some tradition,
13:09that,
13:10a person,
13:11a conservative,
13:12people have rejected him,
13:13and he comes and says,
13:14I am the mechanism.
13:15Then,
13:16see,
13:17what is the need for prediction?
13:18Then,
13:19you,
13:20anyway,
13:21through notification,
13:22can make someone a mechanism.
13:23Why did so much practice take place?
13:24Why was the world deceived?
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