Guest: Zafar Abbas General Secretary ( JDC )
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00:00 I had called out on the first day that without discrimination, color, religion, race, we will work.
00:05 If someone likes it, they will like it. If someone doesn't like it, they will not like it.
00:08 More people are liking it or more people are not liking it?
00:10 I didn't understand. I should have been happy with this line.
00:13 In 2012, I fired 4 drivers in 4 ambulances and killed them.
00:16 I have seen very few people raising questions on credibility and transparency.
00:22 Whether they were killed or not.
00:24 They won't say this because I am telling you about the Murda Khana project worth 2.5 billion.
00:30 I am the sales manager of the youngest multinational company in Pakistan.
00:33 I am 21 years old. I don't have half and half Karachi's distribution.
00:36 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010.
00:37 Did you come to the lab that day? How many patients were there?
00:39 I came.
00:39 In Ramadan?
00:40 Yes.
00:41 And in that time, there was not a single person in any other lab.
00:43 What kind of memes are these that you are bringing the Quran today?
00:46 You are saying that you are swearing on the Quran.
00:47 We made a mistake. We will not do it again against any good deed.
00:50 It's been 15-20 years since you have been doing programs.
00:51 Yes.
00:52 Did Zafar Abbas ever call you and ask you to promote him in a program?
00:55 Yes.
00:56 Although, this was a phase in which I should have asked my friends to come and support me.
01:03 In the name of Allah, the most Gracious, the most Merciful.
01:15 Assalamualaikum. This is ARY Podcast.
01:17 And I am Ikrar ul Hasan.
01:18 And right now, I have with me our beloved Zafar Abbas.
01:23 Obviously, he faces some criticism, but many people remember him in their prayers.
01:28 Zafar Bhai, let's start without any long introduction.
01:32 Okay, where did the idea of JDC come from?
01:35 Because, obviously, before this, we talk about your business.
01:38 But the first reference of your personality, publicly, is JDC itself, if I am not mistaken.
01:44 So, why did you lay the foundation for it? How did you do it? Who were the people with you?
01:48 See, all of us, in 2003 or 2001, we were all college students,
01:53 we formed an institution in the name of Khairul World Working Committee,
01:56 which was established by KWC.
01:58 We used to collect blood in different camps, at different events,
02:02 and in different office offices.
02:05 And the blood that was collected, we used to keep it with Hussaini Blood Bank.
02:07 That was the biggest blood bank in Pakistan at that time.
02:10 So, we used to collect blood from people who were coming from Jinnah Hospital,
02:14 Andhrun-e-Sin, or Karachi, or any hospital in Karachi,
02:16 and their patients needed blood.
02:17 At that time, people used to collect 300-400 rupees from half-addicted people.
02:20 And there were millions of diseases and AIDS in that.
02:22 So, we used to say, "You don't have a donor, take this, take this,
02:24 and go to Hussaini Blood Bank to collect blood."
02:27 So, we collected this blood.
02:28 And you had the blood collected, and the quality was good.
02:30 We collected the first blood collection in Pakistan.
02:34 We used to collect this much blood every time.
02:36 And then, when the flood of 2010 came, and we went to that flood,
02:40 and we saw the work, and the things that we saw there,
02:43 we felt a pain.
02:45 That was there any problem?
02:47 There were different questions, or we noted different things,
02:51 because of which, a flood-affected person is not being given food,
02:54 or some people.
02:55 So, we said, "No."
02:56 We said, "There should be such an institution,
02:58 that if someone is in trouble, or if someone drowns in a flood,
03:00 then he should not be questioned."
03:01 "The flood is the help of the judge, then the flood is the help of the judge."
03:04 So, we set up an institution on that basis.
03:06 And that day, and today, was the first day we called out,
03:09 "Without discrimination, color, race, religion, and religion,
03:12 we will work.
03:13 If someone likes it, then they should like it.
03:15 If someone doesn't like it, then they should not like it."
03:17 - Do more people like it, or do more people not like it?
03:19 - I don't understand, we should have been happy with this line.
03:21 In 2012, I fired four times at four ambulances and killed four drivers.
03:25 Now, there is a poor driver, he left home and came to the job.
03:28 He is taking a patient from Jinnah Hospital.
03:31 On the way, people came on a bike, put a gun on his head,
03:34 shot him and left.
03:35 - This is a very pleasant thing.
03:37 I don't know, because you face a lot of criticism,
03:39 so you must know, but the criticism I see on you,
03:42 it is about the way of working,
03:45 why did you do this, why didn't you do this.
03:47 Overall, on credibility, on transparency,
03:50 I have seen very few people raise questions,
03:52 that what courage or courage is this?
03:54 That you ate or didn't apply.
03:56 - They won't say it because,
03:58 if I am telling you about the dead food,
04:00 which is a project of 2.5 crore rupees,
04:02 there will be free funerals, free bath, free coffin,
04:04 free funeral bus, free funeral box.
04:06 I will tell you the name of the donor too.
04:08 I say this is a dialysis center, this is made by someone.
04:11 So we have the name of the donor everywhere.
04:13 We also do Sehri.
04:15 - Today's Sehri from someone.
04:17 - That Shatrur Mur, when 6 years ago,
04:19 Mufti Naeem Sahib, where I came to the head of Banoriya,
04:21 he came and said, son, you are feeding this creature of Allah,
04:24 they may not be able to eat rice and lentils,
04:26 but you are feeding them chicken.
04:28 And spread this food all over the country.
04:30 So that the food you are feeding in my city,
04:32 the sectarianism and linguistic prejudice is over.
04:35 So those organizations who didn't like it,
04:37 they started it.
04:38 Then I made a video on the third Ramadan.
04:40 I said, one minute, you are coming from a funny joke,
04:43 that JDC is feeding expensive food,
04:45 two minutes.
04:47 The food that is being fed, is being fed by a Seth.
04:49 He has 25 factories of his own.
04:51 After that, there are 20,000 employees.
04:53 If he is feeding good food for a day,
04:55 and if he comes to you and gives you a donation for a good cause,
04:57 then that Seth is a good person.
04:59 If the Seth comes for a day and feeds the same food,
05:01 then that Seth is a bad person.
05:03 So all these things will take many years
05:05 for people to clear their minds in this country.
05:07 - Before the start of JDC,
05:09 you had a company of drinks.
05:11 - Yes, yes, distribution of Pakola flavored milk.
05:15 - Still traveling,
05:17 MashaAllah, Allah has given you a lot of experience.
05:19 Because we know.
05:20 So does this happen that Allah has kept a system
05:23 of Halal and Rizq,
05:25 which can fulfill all the needs and wishes.
05:27 So this daily struggle,
05:29 this daily challenge,
05:31 what is the need for this?
05:33 - Ikhrar bhai, you are in this field.
05:35 If we make a small video of a brand,
05:37 how much money will it give?
05:39 - As many as you ask for.
05:41 - People give us money for free.
05:43 - If Zafar Abbas stands up today
05:45 and endorses a restaurant,
05:47 or a ghee brand,
05:49 or a business,
05:51 - You are ready to give.
05:53 - Whether you ask for 2 crores or 10 crores.
05:55 - Allah has given reach and reached people.
05:57 - Sir, the matter is that when you take a step for your people
05:59 and you get a message in front of you that
06:01 if you raise your voice against them, you will be killed.
06:03 Why are they killing people by putting electricity in every rain?
06:05 Their job is to supply electricity.
06:07 Why did they sell the wire of the earth?
06:09 So I fought with that mafia.
06:11 They filed cases against me.
06:13 I am still in jail.
06:15 - This itself is a big thing.
06:17 You have to go to the press.
06:19 - I respect the courts when I go to the courts.
06:21 - And why won't I go?
06:23 - They also know that my father did not die.
06:25 - Everyone knows what offers
06:27 have not been made for money.
06:29 - He did not take it, that's why these cases are filed against him.
06:31 - No problem, we are going.
06:33 - If a company is coming, tell the doctor to write this medicine.
06:35 - We will send you here after 6 months.
06:37 - We will give you a trip to this country.
06:39 - I have been the national sales manager
06:41 of the youngest multinational company in Pakistan.
06:43 - At the age of 21, I did not have half the distribution of Karachi.
06:45 - 2007, 2008, 2010.
06:47 - I am still a member of a big travel agency in Pakistan.
06:49 - I have all these things, I don't have them from today.
06:51 - But what is the matter when I am standing against the mafia?
06:53 - Why?
06:55 - Why are you writing a blood test that he has no disease?
06:57 - And the test you are writing
06:59 - The laboratory from which he is getting it done
07:01 - The cost of that test is 17 rupees.
07:03 - He went to a charity hospital to get the test done.
07:05 - This is a charity charity hospital.
07:07 - My test will make it cheaper.
07:09 - Then I told the world.
07:11 - The test I got done for 4500 rupees
07:13 - The test I got done for 4500 rupees
07:15 - The cost of the test is 17 rupees.
07:17 - And leave the test, after that
07:19 - His treatment, medicines, that is a different story.
07:21 - That is a different story.
07:23 - I am sorry to interrupt you.
07:25 - You said that the whole campaign
07:27 - The whole struggle, 98 billion rupees
07:29 - Was spent on the vaccine when he had to do the earthing.
07:31 - Yes, say 650 million.
07:33 - Now whoever had to do this, how
07:35 - How are you looking at him?
07:37 - Now, like this, this lab guy,
07:39 - Is this a business of millions or billions?
07:41 - This is a business of billions.
07:43 - Yes, of billions.
07:45 - 10 patients come in a day, your 1 lakh, 2 lakh, 4 lakh
07:47 - Became a business. 10 patients.
07:49 - Did you come to the lab that day? How many patients were there?
07:51 - They started coming. - In Ramadan?
07:53 - Yes, and in that time, no one else would have been in the lab.
07:55 - How much rush did you see in the state of fasting?
07:57 - Hundreds of people were coming and going.
07:59 - That's it. - Were they free?
08:01 - When you and I were interviewing, a person present in this room
08:03 - Said I went to your lab. - He was from our team.
08:05 - I did it with respect. - Absolutely.
08:07 - There was no question. This is the fault.
08:09 - Why don't you think that this is such a big fight?
08:11 - This is such a big fight.
08:13 - The hundreds of thousands of people you are talking about
08:15 - Maybe you will also join their list in the future.
08:17 - There is no doubt.
08:19 - I think about my children every day and leave the house.
08:21 - That they will come to meet me in a morgue.
08:23 - What do you think?
08:25 - The mafia I am fighting, the free dialysis centers I have opened
08:27 - One patient is worth 3.5 crores for 10 years.
08:29 - Dialysis is being done from Sehri.
08:31 - Whether it is the dialysis center in Sarjani town
08:33 - 5 star Chaurangi, Anur, Lyaktabad
08:35 - Gulshan, Malir Kalabod
08:37 - Solja Bazar 3 no.
08:39 - Whether it is Siyalkot or Punjab
08:41 - Right now, a transplant center is being built in Faisalabad.
08:43 - Is anyone coming from anywhere?
08:45 - Is there any religion?
08:47 - I am the institution that says in every video
08:49 - That JDC works without discrimination,
08:51 - Color, generation, religion, and ideology.
08:53 - Now, who feels bad that
08:55 - Why is he not doing it for his community?
08:57 - That's why we will not give him money.
08:59 - There are such institutions like JDC
09:01 - That whoever comes
09:03 - And we really see
09:05 - I told you about Sehri three days ago
09:07 - I came to you on Sehri
09:09 - Was there a scanner there
09:11 - That the immigrants will pass from here
09:13 - And Punjabis will come from here
09:15 - Was Masalik Khurma present?
09:17 - Yes, everyone was present
09:19 - And the Quran was being taught
09:21 - Mashallah
09:23 - I don't understand where is the problem
09:25 - Have you been able to identify
09:27 - When you say it is for all
09:29 - For all the ration, iftari, sehri
09:31 - For all the dialysis, test
09:33 - Who is having a problem?
09:35 - Why is the problem happening?
09:37 - The reason for this is very simple
09:39 - I announced on the first day
09:41 - That we will copy E.D. and Dr. Adibul Hasan
09:43 - If E.D. used to ask
09:45 - Then we will also ask
09:47 - Did E.D. used to ask?
09:49 - Not at all
09:51 - Dr. Adibul Hasan does 3.5 lakh dialysis
09:53 - These are the two names for which I think
09:55 - The social people, the people who are
09:57 - Whenever they hear this name
09:59 - They can give as much respect as they can
10:01 - 6.5 lakh dialysis
10:03 - Every year SIUT does
10:05 - Write on the calculator, the figure will not come
10:07 - Allahu Akbar
10:09 - The amount will not come, how much is the cost
10:11 - And they are still standing
10:13 - Sir I am challenging
10:15 - I am copying them from the first day
10:17 - I will not ask anyone
10:19 - His name, his identity
10:21 - If you are a Muslim, I have money for Zakat
10:23 - I will help you with that
10:25 - You are a Sadat, I have a fund for Sadat
10:27 - You are a non-Muslim, I have a lot of companies
10:29 - Which give me CSR fund, I will help you with that
10:31 - I will not give
10:33 - But because of the economic situation in the country
10:35 - It has become very strange
10:37 - 5000-10,000 applications are coming in a day
10:39 - How can I fulfill all of them?
10:41 - What will you do then?
10:43 - I don't understand, I don't understand
10:45 - Things are getting better with every passing day
10:47 - I am saying that
10:49 - The propaganda that the machinery did against us
10:51 - That Shatrur Murug laughed with it, 15 Ramzan
10:53 - They were thinking that our donation will be disturbed
10:55 - And all our dialysis centers will be closed
10:57 - They will disturb our donors
10:59 - I am sure it will happen
11:01 - Sir, I am not lying, I will open a free lab in the whole of Pakistan
11:03 - Before the next year, if Allah continues to bless us in this way
11:07 - I was watching a video about the lab today
11:09 - And it was said that
11:11 - Without any plan, 2.3 billion were asked from us
11:15 - Nothing was written and it was bypassed
11:17 - The last issue, I was seeing it today
11:19 - See, this problem
11:21 - He is saying, let me ask a question
11:23 - He is saying that
11:25 - The annual budget of Jinnah and Seville is 70 lakh tests
11:27 - The annual budget is 1 billion rupees
11:29 - And they were asking for an amount of 2.5 billion rupees
11:31 - What were they going to do?
11:33 - The answer is in this
11:35 - How much did you say for 2 labs?
11:37 - 1 billion rupees
11:39 - I was going to make it in the whole province
11:41 - He did not tell what the plan was
11:43 - In the whole province
11:45 - I have told this video a million times
11:47 - From Karachi to Kashmor
11:49 - No one will have to pay blood money for tests
11:53 - But our bad luck
11:55 - Whoever you see here
11:57 - He will be connected to a hospital mafia
11:59 - If you allow me to make a suggestion
12:01 - In my career, I have learned in the last 12-15 years
12:05 - That when someone criticizes
12:07 - Regarding any useless matter
12:09 - So, there are 10 accounts
12:11 - 10-20 thousand
12:13 - You and us, who Allah has blessed with a little respect
12:17 - That 4 people listen to more
12:19 - Some are 2 million, some are 4 million, some are 10 million
12:21 - On that, we answer that criticism
12:23 - And make that issue bigger
12:25 - Have you ever thought about this?
12:27 - If Zafar Abbas does not talk about Shatrughnawal
12:29 - What difference would it make?
12:31 - Understand my point
12:33 - 25 lakh young people have agreed to my work in Pakistan
12:35 - He is saying that I have done CA
12:37 - I am teaching 200 children for free
12:39 - I am teaching CA
12:41 - Zafar Abbas has opened my mind
12:43 - The children who are studying with me
12:45 - I am not asking them about their religion or religion
12:47 - Someone is saying that I started in Lahore
12:49 - After seeing Zafar Abbas, I started in IT city
12:51 - I have opened 50 clinics for patients
12:53 - There is no doubt about it
12:55 - Now, when you make fun of Zafar Abbas
12:57 - You are not making fun of Zafar Abbas
12:59 - He is a rich man, Iqrar bhai
13:01 - Allah has given him money
13:03 - That makes sense, it is logical
13:05 - It is logical, but
13:07 - How can someone laugh for 15 days on that logical thing?
13:11 - It is something to think about
13:13 - What are these memes that
13:15 - Today, they are saying that we are taking Quran
13:17 - We made a mistake, we will not do it again
13:19 - Are you scared?
13:21 - I just uploaded a video
13:23 - The record that the Pakistani government has given
13:25 - And they have said that
13:27 - For God's sake, do legal action
13:29 - Tell me
13:31 - What is the structure of JDC?
13:33 - What is the structure?
13:35 - Who audits?
13:37 - JDC is the institution of Pakistan
13:41 - Which audits PCP
13:43 - So, when you will talk about such big things
13:45 - That these machines are installed
13:47 - To test the blood of Arabian people
13:49 - They have made a dead food for Arabian people
13:51 - Free transport is going on
13:53 - So, what line are you giving to people?
13:55 - How will you teach?
13:57 - Make another NGO
13:59 - There are 1.5 lakh NGOs in the city
14:01 - So, we said that we will do a PCP audit
14:03 - We will do one audit from a big company
14:05 - PCP audit is the institution of the state of Pakistan
14:07 - You pay a fee, their fee is 1 million
14:09 - After that, all the chartered accountants from Islamabad come to Karachi
14:11 - They stay in the services mess
14:13 - They bring their breakfast and food
14:15 - You will be out of the accounts office for 15 days
14:17 - You will hand over all the debit watchers, credit watchers, slips, software to them
14:23 - All the checkbooks, crochets, everything will be taken away
14:27 - Now they will give the number out of 1000
14:29 - That's why we have such a big logo on our profile
14:31 - PCP audit
14:33 - Your own lifestyle
14:35 - Although we know it personally
14:37 - But what improvement has happened in that in life?
14:41 - Over the years, along with JDC
14:43 - We see Zafarabad
14:45 - We remember that we took your guidance for Saryam
14:47 - And you also accompanied us
14:49 - So, the same T-shirt, the same slippers, the same condition
14:53 - But the cars, the houses, did you change anything?
14:55 - I can't do anything
14:57 - I have everything, all the facilities of the world
14:59 - You know, Allah's great kindness
15:01 - Money and everything
15:03 - Is this the same as the one in 2010?
15:05 - Yes, I am the same, but I have to go out, change
15:07 - I can take everything, you know
15:09 - I have no problem with anything
15:11 - I live a good, luxurious life
15:13 - But there is a problem
15:15 - The problem is that I have to go to the interior ministry in Islamabad
15:19 - I am getting letters from there
15:21 - That you will buy a bump proof car
15:23 - The letter that the world is eager to take, they are giving it to you
15:25 - You have to stop someone from the city of Karachi
15:27 - That Zafarabad is safe
15:29 - Everyone is concerned that there are dangers in your life
15:31 - Then the second thing is that
15:33 - If I go out of there
15:35 - There are thousands of problems, there are children, someone kidnaps them
15:37 - So I don't want my family
15:39 - I don't want to put my family in more trouble
15:41 - And I am thankful to Allah
15:43 - I can take wherever you say
15:45 - You know yourself, we are standing in line
15:47 - Tell me one thing honestly
15:49 - One is that people who are taking advantage of JDC
15:51 - In any way
15:53 - They are not being asked
15:55 - Or they are not from any particular community
15:57 - Okay, the ones who are giving
15:59 - Who are funding
16:01 - Do they have any special thoughts?
16:03 - Any special view?
16:05 - I have a member donor
16:07 - I have donors of every language, every religion
16:09 - And Allah is giving them respect
16:11 - He is giving them blessings in business
16:13 - He is giving them success
16:15 - I told them that you have never made a cartoon
16:17 - On the picture of your boss
16:19 - If someone is feeding the creatures of Allah
16:21 - You are making a cartoon on his face
16:23 - Will you answer Allah on the Day of Judgment?
16:25 - It's been 15-20 years since you have been doing a program
16:27 - Once Zafarabad called you
16:29 - Promote us in a program
16:31 - Although this Shatr Murgh
16:33 - Understand that this was a phase
16:35 - In which we should have told our friends
16:37 - That you should come and support us
16:39 - But we didn't talk about this
16:41 - Many friends called me and said that Zafarabad
16:43 - Don't answer, there are political organizations involved
16:45 - We are getting money, we are building a narrative
16:47 - If I become silent
16:49 - Or if I get scared of them
16:51 - Then there will be no one standing against the mafia in this country
16:53 - Isn't this a bigger risk than the need?
16:55 - Someone has to be brave, someone will be brave
16:57 - We told the Sindh government
16:59 - There are two government schools, Ibrahim Ali and Chaudhary Rahmat Ali
17:01 - Their walls are joined
17:03 - They said that if you give us the school
17:05 - We will make it the first free O-Level school in Pakistan
17:07 - They said that they have given it to hundreds of NGOs
17:09 - You also take it, you won't be able to do anything
17:11 - We made swimming pool, gymnasium, zoo, activity room, art room, lab, music room, everything in that school
17:21 - Now listen to the amazing thing, a 2.5 year old vegetable vendor's son
17:23 - I will show in the video
17:25 - A father comes with bare feet
17:27 - He teaches O-Levels and A-Levels
17:29 - In Cambridge
17:31 - And the chair he sits on
17:33 - It's a chair worth 25-40 thousand rupees
17:35 - Murdah Khana, Sehriya Iftaariya, Food, Rations, School
17:39 - Now you are saying that I am coming towards cancer
17:41 - Anyway, it's a long list
17:43 - So won't this collapse?
17:45 - No, people are looking at everything differently
17:47 - The heads of every project are different
17:49 - The donors of every project are different
17:51 - Now believe me
17:53 - The IT city we have opened
17:55 - 10-10 thousand boys and girls
17:57 - Who are studying for free
17:59 - And doing a job
18:01 - They are sitting at home and earning $400 every month
18:03 - Did you get a job or not?
18:05 - I met a girl who was from your city
18:07 - How small was she?
18:09 - How did she learn to work?
18:11 - She is sitting at home and earning
18:13 - Such a small girl
18:15 - If Zafar Abbas is not there
18:17 - Then JDC will keep working like this
18:19 - You have made this structure
18:21 - See, understand one thing
18:23 - Zafar Abbas is centric
18:25 - Zafar Abbas is not a singer
18:27 - If Zafar Abbas is not there
18:29 - You will say, we used to listen to Zafar Abbas
18:31 - If Zafar Abbas is not there, we will not listen to music
18:33 - Okay
18:35 - That kid who is studying for free at Zafar Abbas school
18:37 - He reached his school
18:39 - And the board is there, Zafar Abbas is dead
18:41 - He is dead
18:43 - Will that kid say, I will not study today
18:45 - Whatever work we did, we did it for humanity
18:47 - Without discrimination
18:49 - The question is, will the donor trust Zafar Abbas?
18:51 - Will he trust the system?
18:53 - Zafar Abbas has made such a transparent system
18:55 - Everything on social media
18:57 - And told the children and adults of the whole of Pakistan
18:59 - That the work of distribution should be shown
19:01 - So that the donor also understands
19:03 - Other people should also learn
19:05 - And come closer and increase transparency
19:07 - Thank you so much Zafar
19:09 - May Allah give you a long life
19:11 - And you continue your work
19:13 - Fighting and struggling in the same way
19:15 - Thank you very much
19:17 - Thank you very much
19:19 - Thank you very much
19:21 (electronic whooshing)