Silent Witness S27E01
Category
📺
TVTranscript
00:00 Interview with Calvin Dunn of 64 Elderwood Close Ealing. Mr. Dunn is here voluntarily.
00:07 He is free to leave the interview at any time. Date for the recording is February 11th, 2004.
00:14 You're actually recording this?
00:17 Home office pilot scheme. Recording and filming. Belt and braces. You don't mind?
00:24 I don't mind.
00:27 Do you mind?
00:31 Don't tell my SIO.
00:34 Now that we're all comfortable, how can I help?
00:46 So just screams control. Did the caller happen to say where in the woods they heard these screams?
01:11 We're discussing your whereabouts on the night of Tuesday, January the 22nd, 2004.
01:21 Tuesday. Um, Lynn has book group. So it's my night to stay home.
01:27 You're not technically allowed to call it babysitting if they're yours, are you?
01:32 How many kids have you got, Mr. Dunn?
01:35 Calvin, please. Lee's eight and me is four. My little sweet pea.
01:43 Can anyone confirm that you were at home that night?
01:46 Ask Lee if you want. He'll tell you. Talk your legs off that lad.
01:52 Do you know St. Margaret's Church on Pond Lane? It's barely a mile from your house.
01:57 Take Max. It's, uh, it's up by high end woods.
02:08 What the hell is that?
02:35 We found dead birds hanging outside St. Margaret's.
02:43 Is that funny? It is to me, love, yeah.
02:48 Detective Constable, actually, DC Ford. Why is that funny?
02:54 Well, some mad bastards killed four people.
02:59 You're worried about a few birds. The whole world's gone mad.
03:07 Cutting off heads in Iraq. You see that, DC Ford?
03:13 They're cutting them off and they're sticking them on spikes.
03:19 It's kind of quaint to be worried about little birdies, isn't it?
03:46 Your car was nurtured by the verdure at St. Margaret's on four occasions this last month.
03:54 Yeah, I saw that board get given me the eagles.
03:57 I park there sometimes when I get a blockbuster for the kids.
04:01 The parade's no stopping now and the church markings are always empty.
04:05 So you didn't go into the church?
04:10 No, I did once.
04:13 I was feeling a bit low.
04:17 I was looking for God, I suppose.
04:23 But God wasn't there.
04:27 [music]
04:54 You OK, sir?
04:59 Sir? I need you to turn around.
05:04 [music]
05:14 [singing]
05:43 [music]
06:12 Ford.
06:15 Yeah? It's not my concern, it's my...
06:24 Where you going, boss?
06:25 Homicide, just in.
06:26 Everyone's coming. It's your send off.
06:28 There's been a man found in St. Margaret's Church, Pond Lane.
06:32 St. Margaret's? That's St. Margaret's.
06:42 You were up with the lark?
06:44 Verdict came in on the Harrison case. Heard it at the coroner's court.
06:48 And?
06:49 Guilty. Both of them.
06:52 You did good.
06:53 Really?
06:54 They were 15 and 16 years old.
06:57 The victim was only 14.
07:02 I say we skive off for the afternoon, hmm?
07:06 Take a long lunch by the river.
07:09 Or we could hop on a plane.
07:12 Forget about this place for a week or three, hmm?
07:24 Lee.
07:26 I'm not here to fight.
07:30 Have you seen this?
07:33 There are police all around St. Margaret's Church.
07:39 No.
07:46 Here he is.
07:47 Dr. Alexander, is it you or the professor on call?
07:51 I'll take it.
07:53 It's a suspected homicide. Male, 30 to 40 years old. He's in a church in Ealing.
07:59 A church? Which one?
08:01 St. Margaret's. They think he was strangled. The ligature is still in place.
08:06 Red PVC clothesline, knotted, and the body was found in a kneeling position.
08:12 Kneeling?
08:14 What is it?
08:17 Calvin Dunn?
08:19 That must be 20 years ago.
08:20 Can't be.
08:22 Who's Calvin Dunn?
08:24 It's on the way.
08:53 Boruk Dayan Ha'amet.
09:17 The first officers thought that he was stiff.
09:20 Does that help us narrow down when he died?
09:23 Sadly not. Too many variables for rigor mortis to give a post-mortem interval.
09:28 No signs of a struggle, no scrapes on the floor. Police find no ID on him.
09:36 What do you make of it?
09:38 Hmm. The distinctive knot.
09:40 I'll check the database, see if anything similar comes up.
09:44 It's not similar. It's the same.
09:47 Same knot, same supplication pose. Even the same church.
09:52 You know this case?
09:54 I took these pictures 20 years ago. Right here.
09:59 I was a junior DC on the killings. I'm DCI now. Jane Ford.
10:04 Dr. Alexander, pathologist.
10:06 Chuck Horsham, forensics. This is our colleague, Velvie Schur. You investigated Calvin Dunn.
10:11 Four victims, two male, two female, were found strangled and placed in churches in the West London area, 2003 to 2004.
10:22 The fifth woman was presumed abducted. Her body was never found.
10:26 There was a sixth attack, Dominic Johnson, but he managed to get away.
10:31 What about Dunn? Didn't he disappear as well?
10:34 He was interviewed four times by different teams. Never arrested.
10:39 By the time he matched his DNA to the crime scenes, he was...
10:43 ...out of trace.
10:45 So he was never charged? Never tried?
10:48 You can't charge them if you don't have them.
10:51 And now you think he's back?
10:53 Could it be some sort of copycat?
10:55 We never release details of a ligature, the tie or the knot.
11:00 I get why you're connecting this to another case, but I can't. I can only examine what I see here, now.
11:07 And I know what I see.
11:10 You find me the evidence.
11:13 I'll do the rest.
11:15 [♪♪♪]
11:19 [♪♪♪]
11:46 No broken nails.
11:48 Uneven, but I don't think from a struggle.
11:51 No obvious defence wounds to his hands and nothing around the ligature either.
11:55 Hands bound before ligature applied?
11:57 Likely killed elsewhere, then brought here.
12:00 What's he weigh? About 70 kg?
12:03 Yeah, you take him under the arms, drag him backwards, right?
12:06 No drag marks. There's nothing on the threshold of the front door.
12:09 And he's got bare feet and there are no abrasions on his heels.
12:12 Right. So, maybe put him on his shoulder.
12:16 It's too far.
12:29 Wouldn't do that.
12:31 Can't see him, Nicky.
12:32 Gotta be a trace. Gotta be a trace.
12:36 How about this?
12:38 [♪♪♪]
12:41 This jumper's orange, right?
13:03 Yeah.
13:04 Come here.
13:07 [♪♪♪]
13:09 He carried him through here on his shoulder.
13:34 There's parchmentation around the ligature mark here.
13:38 And all the way across to here.
13:41 Generally, that suggests a perimortem injury.
13:44 The ligature abrasions follow a predictable pattern of horizontal circumscription about the neck.
13:51 Distinguishable from marks left by, say, hanging.
13:54 No disc or bruising.
13:56 Hands were bound with a cable tie, presumably prior to the ligature being applied.
14:03 [♪♪♪]
14:06 There are petechial hemorrhages in the eyes, consistent with an asphyxial death.
14:14 Moving to the chest and upper torso, there's bruising consistent with a sustained assault.
14:22 Any ID yet?
14:28 Fingerprints came back negative.
14:31 Somewhere out there, people are missing him.
14:34 At least I hope so.
14:36 Family, friends.
14:38 It's like an echo, isn't it?
14:41 Down through time. On and on.
14:44 We'll find out who he was.
14:47 We don't always.
14:49 Hmm.
14:56 That's a bowling.
15:00 I didn't have you down as a Boy Scout.
15:02 I'm not. I sail.
15:05 The bowling is the king of all knots.
15:07 Who's Calvin Dunne ex-navy?
15:11 I don't know.
15:12 I don't know or care about Calvin Dunne right now.
15:16 And I don't need him in my head.
15:18 Calvin Dunne.
15:24 35 years old in 2004.
15:27 Degree in computer sciences from Bracknell University.
15:31 Married to Lynn, a nursery school teacher.
15:33 Two kids, Lee and Mia.
15:36 Calvin was working for an American weapons tech company since 1998.
15:40 Weapons tech? Doing what?
15:42 Never got a clear answer.
15:43 There's a theory going that whatever Calvin was doing was so sensitive that someone made him disappear.
15:52 Said he was interviewed four times.
15:54 One of those interviews was with me.
15:57 Calvin had an alibi. A strong one.
16:00 His wife?
16:01 An eight-year-old boy.
16:04 His son, Lee.
16:06 We interviewed him back then, too.
16:09 You know the difference between telling the truth and telling lies, Lee?
16:15 Why is it important to tell the truth?
16:21 You have to tell the truth, miss. God wants you to be good.
16:24 Did you learn that at school?
16:27 Dad says God sees everything.
16:30 Did you go to church?
16:32 Dad says it's between me and him.
16:35 Him? You mean God?
16:37 You don't need a church to know what's right.
16:42 You were telling me what you and your dad were watching.
16:47 Millionaire. First three of them didn't even get the easy questions right.
16:51 What's the N in NHS?
16:53 What animal is Disney's Donald?
16:55 Who picks a peck of pickled peppers?
16:58 Is Daddy in trouble?
17:04 Why do you say that?
17:08 He's helping us.
17:11 Find that lady.
17:13 I saw her on the news.
17:17 There's bruising in the strap muscles.
17:20 It's limited, but that's not unusual with a ligature.
17:23 The larynx was fractured, consistent with strangulation.
17:27 Are you any closer to finding out who he was?
17:31 Calvin didn't have a type.
17:34 Men, women, young, old.
17:38 He never seemed to care who or what they were.
17:45 He seemed to select them for their availability.
17:48 Alone, isolated locations, late at night.
17:54 His last target was a young sex worker, Dominic Johnson, at Hammersmith Bridge.
18:00 But, Dominic got away.
18:04 And Calvin went to ground.
18:06 For 20 years? Then he just starts up again, after that long?
18:11 They call it cooling off periods.
18:14 There was one who killed seven times, stopped for 14 years,
18:18 and killed three more before they caught him.
18:21 I'm sorry, I've got to go.
18:23 Did I say something to upset you?
18:26 You have to make assumptions to investigate.
18:28 If I make assumptions, I can't help your investigation.
18:39 You're right. This is Calvin Dunn. What can we expect?
18:43 Last time there was barely a month between his first and fourth attack. I don't have much time.
18:48 So where do you start?
18:49 The things Calvin left behind. The abducted woman, Zoe Beck. The survivor, Dominic.
18:54 What about the son?
18:55 Lee?
18:56 Could he be covering for him?
18:58 You don't know Lee Dunn.
19:07 Hello, Lee.
19:09 What took you so long?
19:15 I went to the house. Ayesha told me you'd moved out.
19:18 Yeah.
19:24 What else did she say? Ayesha.
19:34 Well, she didn't have to. She was showing. Six months, right?
19:39 She knew I didn't want kids.
19:43 That body they found at St Margaret's. He did it, didn't he?
19:51 No. We don't know who's responsible.
19:55 And what's the body left there? You know, like, like the others?
20:03 Yes.
20:04 Has anything else happened to suggest your father might be back?
20:12 Oh my God.
20:14 Lee?
20:15 Back? He never went away. I've been telling you this for years now.
20:21 Alright.
20:22 No, no. It's not alright. You haven't returned my calls for months.
20:25 I told you, I'm retiring.
20:27 From what?
20:28 You gave up years ago.
20:32 [laughs]
20:34 How's it going? The ambulances?
20:43 I'm not doing crew anymore. I'm MOU.
20:48 Notice, Ancal, response.
20:51 On your own?
20:53 Prefer it that way. Once people know who I am.
20:57 No, it's not easy being you, Lee. I thought you could talk to Aisha.
21:04 I never wanted a kid. I told her that from the off.
21:09 You're not your dad, Lee. You prove that every day.
21:20 You have your life. You're safe.
21:25 [music]
21:27 I'm back.
21:33 You told him?
21:36 Not yet.
21:38 Poor boss has been waiting 20 years. He has a right to know if Calvin's back.
21:46 [music]
21:49 [music]
21:52 [breathing]
21:54 [music]
22:13 [music]
22:15 Remember what I told you, right?
22:27 Consider everything.
22:29 Yes, but test little.
22:31 Yeah, yeah.
22:32 Let me know how it goes, alright?
22:34 [music]
22:38 [music]
22:40 [music]
22:52 [music]
22:56 [music]
23:00 [music]
23:02 A surviving witness mentioned leather gloves. Is it a Duns?
23:14 We don't know yet.
23:15 And it hasn't been lying there for years.
23:18 There are no signs of the disintegration you'd expect from being on the Woodland Four for a long period of time.
23:25 It's been there two weeks, Max, I reckon.
23:27 There's no trace of the Sahara dust from the rain we had on New Year's Eve.
23:30 And the DNA from that glove?
23:33 Yeah, mini-taped and sent.
23:35 Okay.
23:36 And what about this?
23:39 The PVC ligature from the current victim matches the clothesline used on the victims back then.
23:45 Not only that, PVC coating and was marked with an indent at regular intervals.
23:52 The shape of the groove on the current leg? Almost identical to the one Dun used in 2004.
23:57 Oh, God.
23:59 I thought this was what you'd been waiting for.
24:02 It isn't that.
24:04 I understand you want to stay out of it, but I need your help.
24:11 I have to go and speak to a man called Charles Beck. He used to be a pathologist.
24:15 Oh, I know who he is. We read Beck at medical school.
24:19 When he examined the first four victims on the Dun case.
24:22 God, and wasn't his wife the fifth?
24:24 He did a lot of media for us during the course of the investigation, and then his wife went missing.
24:30 And she was never found.
24:32 I need to tell him about the new body of the church.
24:36 He'll have questions. Questions that you can answer better than me.
24:42 [SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC]
24:45 [KNOCKING]
24:50 I wonder what these are for.
24:56 Beck convinced himself he could find Zoe where we couldn't.
25:02 Pollen tracking, hedgerow analysis.
25:07 Forensic botany?
25:09 Yeah.
25:11 He's considered quite the expert these days.
25:13 He gets calls from forces all over the world.
25:17 He doesn't do dead bodies anymore. I mean, would you?
25:21 He's not here. We should go.
25:25 I know where he'll be.
25:37 [BIRDS SQUAWKING]
25:40 Hello, Dr. Beck.
25:44 This is Dr. Alexander. She's from the Lyle Centre.
25:51 Thomas Lyle's house of horrors.
25:54 I was hoping we could...
25:56 You heard about the body in St. Margaret's you did at the PM?
25:59 That's right.
26:00 Birds hanging from the trees, ligature strangulation, red clothes lying, found pose kneeling towards the altar.
26:07 Who was it?
26:09 Well, DNA doesn't match with anyone on the missing persons register or the...
26:13 I wasn't asking you. I was talking to a professional.
26:15 Do you think it was his work? Calvin Andrew Dunn?
26:18 I don't know.
26:20 It wasn't.
26:21 Dunn's dead.
26:23 You seem very sure.
26:25 Why did he do it that way, Dr. Alexander?
26:28 The churches, the supplication pose.
26:31 He wants to desecrate and defile a holy place.
26:34 So why go back to St. Margaret's?
26:36 He'd already profaned it. Even the church thought so. They closed it down.
26:40 Dr. Beck has been very generous with his theories.
26:44 He flooded this valley in 1973.
26:49 At its centre, Fordham is a hundred feet deep.
26:53 You could hide a chieftain tank in there and my home is barely a mile away.
26:57 Defile, desecrate, deprive.
27:02 You believe that Calvin Dunn put your wife's body into the water here?
27:06 It was all about power with Dunn.
27:09 Depriving me of Zoe made him feel powerful.
27:11 We dredged the reservoir several times.
27:15 I knew the assistant commissioner, so they sent a couple of hobbyist frogmen to humour me.
27:20 I can't imagine how that must feel, to live with that.
27:26 Oh, I think you can.
27:28 You're like me, you live with a lot.
27:32 I think you know just how I feel.
27:36 If you want my once expert advice, you'd stop looking for Calvin Dunn. He's dead.
27:46 I'd know if he wasn't.
27:51 White birds. What's that about?
27:53 Lee said his dad used to take him camping. They'd trap sparrows just for the fun of it.
27:59 Power, like Beck says.
28:01 Killers often start with animals, don't they? In his textbook.
28:06 But birds seem to mean something to him.
28:09 The little birdies.
28:12 Beck's wrong about one thing.
28:16 What?
28:17 That glove.
28:18 Calvin Dunn's DNA was on the glove and his fingerprints in the lining.
28:27 Maybe he's not so dead.
28:30 You're interested now, aren't you?
28:42 Is it a sex thing, do you think?
28:44 I mean, he's killing boys as well as girls, right?
28:49 We're keeping an open mind as to what the motive is behind the killing.
28:54 We're interviewing anyone who was in the vicinity of St Margaret's and asking for involuntary DNA.
29:00 But he leaves them in a church.
29:07 He goes to church.
29:12 I'm sorry, Lee. You weren't supposed to see this.
29:32 Is that him?
29:36 That's what your father looks like now.
29:38 At least, according to AI.
29:41 Do I look like him?
29:45 It's not real, Lee.
29:48 Could you come with me? Come on.
29:55 I've been trying to get hold of Mia.
29:57 The number and file is disconnected and we never had an email for her.
30:01 Me and my sister don't talk.
30:04 She got married. Has a baby now.
30:06 I need to talk to her.
30:08 What happens if your father tries to make contact?
30:11 He was never that bothered with Mia.
30:13 Lucky for her.
30:15 She was too young to do what he said.
30:18 He used to tell me about this dream he had.
30:29 Him.
30:33 High above everyone and everything.
30:35 Looking down from the clouds like God himself.
30:40 He doesn't have power over you anymore, Lee.
30:45 You don't have to be afraid.
30:49 You're bigger than him.
30:52 Stronger than he ever was.
30:55 I will never be free until you find him.
31:02 Please.
31:03 Please.
31:04 Please.
31:05 [♪♪♪]
31:08 [♪♪♪]
31:11 [♪♪♪]
31:14 [♪♪♪]
31:17 [♪♪♪]
31:19 Mia?
31:45 I'm sorry.
31:46 You've mistaken me for someone else.
31:49 My name's Jane Ford. I'm a police officer.
31:52 We met when you were much younger.
31:54 I'm sorry.
32:06 Place is a mess.
32:08 I wish my place was this messy.
32:11 I like things tidy.
32:13 Drives Anton crazy.
32:14 Lee said he thought you might have been working at a nursery.
32:19 Oh.
32:21 We decided I should leave.
32:24 Mia, if you ever need anyone to vouch for you-
32:30 We're very happy.
32:32 Anton says we're blessed.
32:34 You are.
32:37 Your baby's beautiful.
32:39 Thanks.
32:41 [chuckles]
32:42 Is that why you're here?
32:48 To check on me and Emily?
32:50 What? No.
32:52 It's nothing like that.
32:54 It makes sense.
32:55 I mean, how do you know I'm not like him?
32:58 Like Calvin?
33:01 Lee was asking after you.
33:10 You might have heard the news.
33:11 I don't watch news.
33:13 It's all bad. Don't even have it on my phone.
33:16 Anton tells me if there's anything I need to know.
33:18 There was a body found at St Margaret's Church.
33:26 We can't rule out that your father was involved.
33:31 I don't have a father.
33:34 We don't talk about that man in this house.
33:39 I understand.
33:40 But I have to ask you.
33:42 Can you think of anywhere that he might be?
33:47 Did your mum ever talk about-
33:50 She never talked about me, either.
33:52 I'm sorry about Lynn.
33:54 She'd do her best for us.
33:58 She'd do her best for us.
33:59 I'm a good mum.
34:12 I think.
34:14 I can see that.
34:17 Mia, don't worry about the police being around.
34:23 It's standard in the circumstances.
34:26 They're there for you.
34:28 Thank you.
34:35 Thank you.
34:36 Why don't we take a little break?
34:57 You must be knackered, too.
35:02 What am I, your tenth interview today?
35:04 Something like that.
35:06 Can I get you anything, Calvin?
35:08 Three lumps.
35:11 I get a bit blood sugary.
35:13 Interview suspended. 15.11.
35:17 [radio static]
35:18 What?
35:41 [music]
35:42 Idiots.
35:58 He's calling the police.
36:00 Idiots.
36:02 Brilliant. Thank you.
36:10 She lip-read it.
36:11 He's calling the police idiots.
36:13 I was playing with him. He still is.
36:15 Maybe he left that glove on purpose.
36:18 Yeah.
36:21 Maybe he wants us to know he's back.
36:23 Kara shouldn't be watching that stuff, Jack.
36:25 Huh? Oh, come on. I thought she was upstairs.
36:27 She shouldn't be around any of this.
36:29 Calvin Dunn targeted the pathologist's family.
36:32 That was a long time ago, Nicky.
36:34 Yeah.
36:40 Well, she's got a reading week coming up and her mum wanted her to come home, so...
36:45 I think that would be a really good idea, don't you?
36:49 Yeah.
36:52 [knock on door]
37:04 [birds chirping]
37:05 Hello?
37:14 Dr Beck?
37:16 Whatever you're selling, I don't need it. Please go away.
37:18 Oh, sorry. Dr Beck.
37:20 You don't have an appointment. I'd know if you had an appointment.
37:22 No, please go away.
37:24 I'm Dr Alexander.
37:26 We met yesterday.
37:29 I'm from the Lyell Centre.
37:32 I did the post-mortem on the body we found at St Margaret's Church.
37:35 Huh.
37:40 Nicky, right?
37:42 Sorry, I don't get many visitors.
37:45 Why don't we go inside?
37:48 After you.
37:56 Thanks.
37:59 [door creaks]
38:00 Old lab habits die hard.
38:03 Please go through.
38:05 I heard about your work in forensic botany.
38:11 It's a fascinating field.
38:14 I put out aims at netting, but the buggers still get through.
38:27 Stubbock contents create a map of how specific species are digested at a cellular level.
38:31 Leaves, seeds, pollen.
38:34 You've come to talk to me about the body they found.
38:39 Why are you so convinced Calvin Dunn is dead?
38:43 Because I've studied him.
38:46 Four bodies on the table, a wife in the water.
38:49 By their works, shall you know them?
38:52 What do you know about him?
38:55 [sighs]
38:56 That's why you're really here, isn't it?
38:58 I've no prurient interest in Dunn.
39:00 Everybody wants to know about Calvin eventually.
39:03 I just want to understand the case, as you saw it.
39:06 [sighs]
39:08 Nobody found out much about him anyway.
39:10 He worked for the Americans, something connected to the military.
39:14 At one point the paper said that the Russians swooped in to extract their key serial killer asset.
39:20 [sighs]
39:21 You've never thought of leaving this house?
39:26 Because he was here.
39:30 He's still here.
39:35 You feel him, don't you?
39:39 I don't want to give him the satisfaction.
39:44 Even though he's dead?
39:46 You want to know why I know he's dead?
39:49 He's dead because we haven't heard from him in 20 years.
39:52 A man like that can't stay silent.
39:54 We found a glove.
39:57 With Dunn's DNA on it.
39:59 It was dropped near St. Margaret's in the last few days.
40:04 [sighs]
40:10 That's not possible.
40:12 You don't want it to be him.
40:14 I understand that.
40:17 But we've made huge advances in forensics and DNA analysis in the last 20 years.
40:22 This would never have happened in my day.
40:24 Sorry?
40:26 You've made a mistake. Cross-contaminated evidence. You outsource everything these days, don't you?
40:28 Listen, Charles.
40:30 Maybe there's a real chance of getting him this time.
40:33 That's what I thought then.
40:35 We spent so much time trying to understand him back then.
40:40 Every other cop was a profiler in 2004.
40:45 The victims weren't his real work.
40:47 What do you mean?
40:49 It was us.
40:52 Me.
40:54 The other families. Ford, even.
40:56 And then there's his own car wreck of a family.
40:59 And now we're all talking about Calvin again.
41:02 The narcissist's fever dream.
41:05 Psychopath with narcissistic tendencies. That was the profiler's wisdom back then.
41:11 I understand your anger.
41:14 All those years. No justice.
41:16 Justice?
41:18 What's that then?
41:21 I don't know.
41:24 Some sort of balance?
41:27 Punishing the perpetrator to acknowledge the pain they've caused.
41:31 Restoring the moral order.
41:33 War with the banging of a judge's gavel?
41:36 War an eye for an eye. I can understand why you'd want that.
41:42 How can you ever extract a price from someone who can never feel your pain?
41:46 How many years in a cage would be adequate punishment?
41:51 I sometimes think she's still here.
41:58 I don't want to forget.
42:01 I understand him really well.
42:06 And look what it's done to me.
42:09 And look what it's done to me.
42:11 What work did you do at Clearable Systems, Mr Dunn?
42:22 You don't have to talk to them about that one, I'm afraid.
42:25 Not allowed to.
42:27 Made me sign an NDA.
42:29 Clearable do a lot of work for the Pentagon, don't they?
42:38 You have a lot of secrets, Kelvin?
42:40 You're only as sick as your secrets, right?
42:43 I worry about that sometimes.
42:47 My agreement means that I just can't even talk to my own family about what I do.
42:53 You talk to your boyfriend about your work.
42:58 DC Ford.
43:00 Any updates on Dunn?
43:05 I'm on my third day of live facial recognition.
43:08 When was the last reported sighting of him?
43:10 Kelvin Dunn's been seen once a week for the last 20 years from Moorgate to Manitoba.
43:15 Any news on the John Doe?
43:17 DNA from our guy St. Margaret's doesn't match to anyone. Nobody's called to claim him.
43:21 Also, we've sent over the evidence boxes from the historic crime scenes.
43:24 I'll let you know what we find.
43:26 Yeah, thanks.
43:28 Let's go through the sightings again.
43:32 Oh, crackpots and conspiracists.
43:34 It's like you've always told me.
43:36 If you can't find what you're looking for, look again with your eyes open.
43:41 Do I actually say that shit?
43:44 Sorry, ma'am. I report over break-in.
43:47 Look around you. This is a murder incident room, not a neighbourhood watch.
43:50 Set 14, South Hill Place.
43:52 That's Mia Dunn's house.
43:55 (Police siren)
43:57 This is the point of entry.
44:07 And exit, most likely.
44:09 The CCTV. Let's review the footage.
44:13 Right.
44:15 This could be done.
44:17 Mm-hmm.
44:20 (Dogs barking)
44:22 Come on, Mia.
44:34 I'm not going in there.
44:37 It's okay. I'm with you.
44:40 He's in there.
44:43 No, he isn't. I've been through every room.
44:48 Come on.
44:49 We don't know it was your father.
44:56 I know.
44:58 And the minute I walked in the door, I could smell him.
45:01 What?
45:03 It was him.
45:06 We start at the top, go through room by room,
45:15 and you just tell me if anything's moved or if anything's missing.
45:17 I don't want to.
45:21 It's all right.
45:23 Come on.
45:25 (TV playing)
45:27 What's up there?
45:50 Nothing.
45:52 Nothing?
45:53 Mum's stuff.
45:56 All right, let me make a list, then.
46:04 All right.
46:10 It's not opportunistic.
46:13 He's hiding his face, isn't he?
46:15 He's done his homework and knows where the camera is.
46:18 (phone buzzing)
46:20 Hello?
46:35 Sleep tight, sweet pea.
46:37 What is it?
46:47 It's him.
46:48 Oh, this is... this is live.
46:52 See that shadow?
46:55 What?
46:56 There.
46:57 Still here.
46:59 Hey!
47:04 Where'd he go?
47:14 I lost him.
47:16 Velvey, stay there.
47:17 Can I get some help over here?
47:19 Jack?
47:28 Jack!
47:30 Velvey!
47:31 Wait!
47:33 Velvey!
47:39 Jesus, Velvey.
47:42 Velvey, you okay?
47:43 Let me see you.
47:46 Ah!
47:47 You okay?
47:49 I think that might be the most exciting thing that's ever happened to me.
47:52 Just stay there.
47:55 Just stay still.
47:57 Ford found these rubber overshoes in Mia's attic.
48:04 Could be Calvin's.
48:06 He always thought he was wearing something like these.
48:11 Never left shoe prints.
48:14 Mia identified it as the one her dad bought for her mum.
48:17 Doubting husband.
48:19 She killed herself, right?
48:22 Lynn Dunn.
48:23 Yeah, Ford said she held it together until the kids left home.
48:26 Another victim of Calvin Dunn.
48:28 Velvey was lucky.
48:31 Don't look at me.
48:33 I didn't tell him to go herring after a killer.
48:35 No, he went herring after you herring after a killer.
48:40 After you herring after a killer.
48:43 Scalpel, please, Doctor.
48:47 Thank you.
48:53 Bit of light, please.
48:59 What is it?
49:03 Come on.
49:05 Come on.
49:09 Where's Simone when you need her?
49:11 Send it off to the forensic botany.
49:14 I think I know a man who can help.
49:17 Visea rostellata.
49:24 Beaked beardless moss.
49:26 It's on the nationally scarce list.
49:28 Rare is good.
49:29 It's only ever been recorded in one area of greater London.
49:32 Why am I looking at this?
49:33 The moss was found in an overshoe belonging to Calvin Dunn from 20 years ago.
49:38 Where in London? Where was the moss recorded?
49:40 She knows.
49:44 Fordham Reservoir.
49:48 I told you.
49:50 You put her in the water so that I'd never see her again.
49:53 It doesn't prove anything.
50:04 The moss puts Dunn here.
50:07 My mum was here.
50:08 She had a picnic with her sewing circle.
50:10 What does that prove?
50:11 Half of West London's been here.
50:13 We searched the reservoir, as you insisted, and we found nothing.
50:17 Two divers, four days.
50:19 The water's a hundred feet at its deepest.
50:20 You barely gave it a chance.
50:22 The moss, is that all you've got?
50:23 So far.
50:25 Is the species localised this part of the shoreline?
50:27 No, it's all over the reservoir, both banks.
50:29 That's more than a square mile of water.
50:32 And, as the good doctor said, it's a hundred feet deep.
50:36 Even if there were human remains in there, they'd been there for years.
50:39 And I've been telling you for years.
50:41 If the remains were wrapped and waited, they could still be intact.
50:45 I've been telling her that too.
50:46 That's not the point.
50:47 No Chief Super is going to sign off on the cost of a search of this scale,
50:51 based on a fragment of moss on a twenty year old shoe.
50:55 The water level's dropped, hasn't it?
50:59 Every year, the planet's heating up.
51:01 Don't know if you heard about it.
51:03 So, twenty years ago, the water would have been six feet higher.
51:08 Huh.
51:11 So all this would have been underwater?
51:17 Over there.
51:23 What's over there?
51:26 In 2004, that's the only place you'd have found Vicerossa Lata.
51:30 It stretches all the way to the car park.
51:33 It's in a reservoir in front of the car park, it's the deepest part.
51:36 He put her there.
51:39 She's there.
51:42 [Music]
51:45 [Music]
51:49 [Music]
51:52 [Music]
52:02 [Music]
52:15 [Music]
52:17 Charles?
52:19 You shouldn't be here.
52:23 Where else should I be?
52:25 This could take days, weeks maybe.
52:29 Why don't you wait at home?
52:32 And whatever I said to Ford,
52:36 we both know the chance of finding anything after all this time is very slim.
52:44 You used to sail here on the lake.
52:46 Must be hard to spend time here.
52:49 I was...
52:56 I was in court with a double murder.
52:59 At least I believed it was a murder.
53:01 There was this young defence barrister, I thought she knew it all.
53:06 Took me on.
53:07 Totally shredded me on the physical evidence.
53:11 Felt like I'd been 12 rounds with Mike Tyson.
53:13 I was in the bar, drowning my sorrows.
53:18 So we walked in and she sat in the stool next to me.
53:21 Said, "You look like you need a drink."
53:24 I did.
53:26 So we did.
53:28 I was six Jamesons in before I realised she was the QC that had mugged me.
53:34 It's a lot different without the lawyer's wag.
53:38 It's a lot different without the lawyer's wag and the terrifying snarl.
53:42 It was three years before I could get her to marry me.
53:49 Being the barrister she was, she kept raising objections.
53:54 She was too young, I was too old.
53:57 Marriage was an outdated institution.
54:05 She said we'd both seen too much to believe in human connection,
54:08 to believe that love could last in a world like this.
54:11 With all that we'd borne witness to.
54:14 In court, in the mortuary.
54:17 I said it was because of that,
54:21 because of what we knew, because we'd seen the worst the world could do,
54:25 that we had to prove it could be different.
54:28 The world could be good.
54:30 Could be love.
54:33 That we could grow without taking the air from each other.
54:36 I told her if we didn't believe in anything else, we could believe in us.
54:48 We were together ten years.
55:02 Every year seemed to prove that I was right.
55:04 We could grow closer, that love could get deeper.
55:18 And that,
55:28 even though we would have to deal with a world that was
55:32 violent,
55:34 a world that was cruel, we could try and make it better.
55:58 I told her we'd built a life that was
56:01 loving
56:04 and real.
56:06 I told her we were safe.
56:16 I was wrong.
56:21 (SOMBRE MUSIC PLAYS)
56:23 Poor Charles.
56:44 Really.
56:45 The body was wrapped in the sail from Charles Beck's boat.
56:49 And we had CCTV on Zoe Beck with bruises all over her face.
56:53 The day before she disappeared.
56:56 What?
56:58 We asked him about it.
57:00 He claimed she got them sailing.
57:02 Plenty of people told us it was stormy between them.
57:05 You think he was violent towards her?
57:08 The rest of Dunn's victims were posed and presented.
57:13 Only Zoe's body was hidden.
57:17 Are you serious?
57:19 I'm not the only one who thought it.
57:21 Could the pathologist have used his knowledge
57:25 of Calvin Dunn's killings to get rid of his own wife?
57:29 Find out what's what right now with episode two on iPlayer
57:35 or mull it over and join us back here tomorrow at nine.
57:38 There's action-packed mystery on iPlayer too,
57:41 with a new series of The Tourists,
57:43 back on Irish soil, but none the wiser.
57:46 Press red and join Damy Dornan now.