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00:00:00 Well, good morning everybody. Stephen Molyneux from Free Domain. Good lord, it's near the end of October.

00:00:05 Wowzy! Can you believe it? I can! Still feels like sci-fi futuristic futurama to me, but it's still

00:00:12 499 years to go until we get to my wonderful novel called The Future, which you should definitely

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00:00:38 more than helpful. Fairly necessary. freedomain.com/donate. And we also will take,

00:00:46 we can take some live tips here, actually. Believe it or not. Ripley's Believe It or Don't.

00:00:52 And let me just get that. Zinc. Z-A-N-K. Zinc.tips/freedomain. You can help me out.

00:01:01 Zinc.tips/freedomain. We are in a race with regards to others, the other platforms. Other

00:01:10 platforms, I get some tips. I like doing the voice chats, but I have to, you know, I need to be

00:01:16 responsible for the income and see if I can get tips there as well. All right. Well, maybe we'll

00:01:23 do a short show today. If we all aren't chatty, it's kind of funny, right? Because I do the show

00:01:27 so I can talk with people. But if you all aren't chatty, then I might as well do the one with more

00:01:34 tips. So no biggie. No biggie. So yeah, Zinc.tips/freedomain. So I guess I have a,

00:01:45 is it a shameful confession? Yes, probably a little bit of a shameful confession. In the chat,

00:01:52 hit me with the why, if you don't mind a mildly shameful confession. I mean, I think we all have

00:01:58 them, don't we? Little things here and there that we're like, "Oh, I'm not proud, but I'm going to

00:02:03 try and get some good stuff out of it." Because, you know, I don't want you all to think that I'm

00:02:07 any kind of paragon of virtue or eternally positive and never have any temptation. So yeah,

00:02:13 mildly guilty secret. Tell me if you've ever heard of a show entitled The Morning Show.

00:02:25 Have you ever heard of a show called The Morning Show? Morning, M-O-R-N-I-N-G, although I suppose

00:02:33 with regards to my integrity and virtue, I'm in mourning for M-O-U-R-N-I-N-G, The Morning Show.

00:02:41 Now, I could blame it on my wife, and I'm tempted by that as well. But given that I have already

00:02:48 given into the temptation to watch a bit of The Morning Show, I might as well say, "Oh,

00:02:51 she's a big Jennifer Aniston fan. It's some Greek thing. So, she's the reason I did it. It wasn't me.

00:02:57 She's the reason." Is that a news show? Oh, I wish it was. It is not a news show. It is a show on

00:03:07 Apple TV. And every now and then, you get these offers of free stuff. So, I can say that. At

00:03:14 least, that's a vague, sad defense. But yes, it is a show. The acting is pretty good. Jennifer

00:03:24 Aniston, blonde girl Reese Witherspoon, and a couple of other people that I've recognized.

00:03:36 The guy from Cameron Crowe's rock and roll movie, I can't remember. So, anyway, there's some good

00:03:45 acting. The writing is not bad. The people are pretty. The sets are pretty. The stakes are

00:03:50 relatively high. And so, I have dipped in. Now, I'm not alone in this. To hit me with a show

00:04:02 that you have watched or are watching, don't make me feel alone in all of this, my friends.

00:04:08 If you have a show that you have watched or are watching, that you wouldn't necessarily list as

00:04:16 your first virtue at the pearly gates in the afterlife. Have you had a show that's gone that

00:04:21 way for you? Come on. Don't make me feel. I can't be the only one who has a guilty.

00:04:30 Game of Thrones. Yeah, Game of Thrones. That was an odd show, man. I watched a couple of episodes.

00:04:36 That was about as nihilistic and ugly a show as could be conceived of. Prison Break. Well,

00:04:44 Prison Break, I did watch some of that. And Prison Break was, again, somewhat nihilistic. But,

00:04:50 you know, I'm a sucker for Brother Bond movies and Brother Bond shows. Californication. Oh, my gosh.

00:04:58 That was like watching the surgery channel. I mean, it's like, I guess it's destructive,

00:05:02 but I really don't want to see Californication. And also David Duchovny, who's in that. Didn't

00:05:07 he have a sex addiction? Red Shoe Diaries kind of style. And I think that the show was pretty

00:05:11 autobiographical. But yeah. Dexter. I never watched that. Pretty Little Liars.

00:05:18 I think I watched about 20 minutes of the first one, seeing if it'd be any good for my daughter,

00:05:24 and it wasn't. I could not make it through Californication. Yeah. That wife, though. I mean,

00:05:31 she was quite pretty and actually quite a good actress. It's always funny, you know, how

00:05:37 they show, there's always this contradiction in these kinds of shows. I mean, well, more than one.

00:05:44 But the one I think that kind of obvious to me, I will admit it as well, The Kardashians, lol. I

00:05:50 did watch one Kardashian show. You know, I just have to hold my nose and keep abreast, literally

00:05:56 abreast of the current cultural trends. The Kardashians had a big impact on culture, and as

00:06:00 cultural commentator and critic. Yeah, that was pretty repulsive. But you know, The Kardashians

00:06:07 is a brave admission. It's a brave admission. I did watch one episode of The Bachelor. And

00:06:16 yeah, I mean, pretty hoard of nice locations. I suppose Melrose Place style is not Melrose Place.

00:06:22 I watched that some years ago. Let's see here. Not a show, but I always click on the Megan and

00:06:28 Harry news. Nip/Tuck way back in the day. Nip/Tuck was a show that started off pretty well. And then

00:06:34 it got into all of this serial killer nonsense. And it just got, you know, stupid and ridiculous.

00:06:40 They always go too far. They always go too big. They always have to have some big giant story arc.

00:06:45 And I don't know, it's kind of like Burn Notice is a great show. By the way, Burn Notice is like,

00:06:52 I would go to my grave having no shred of doubt or any defensiveness about Burn Notice. It was

00:06:58 just a fantastic show. Let's see. I watched the very first Jersey Shore, never made it to the

00:07:05 second. Well, Jersey Shore is actually one of the rare shows, medically speaking, that you can

00:07:13 actually get an STD from watching it. Like that's not common. It's weird that it transmits over

00:07:22 radio and TV waves, but that is actually... Breaking Bad, I watched one. I mean, Breaking

00:07:28 Bad was such a phenomenon. And of course, I'm a big fan of Anthony Hopkins. And when he praised

00:07:32 the lead guy in Breaking Bad as some of the finest acting he'd ever seen, I was like, "Yeah, okay."

00:07:37 I give that one a try. But Breaking Bad was just too vile. It was just absolutely too vile.

00:07:43 The Walking Dead, I watched a couple of those. It got a bit repetitive. "Oh no, we need to go

00:07:49 and get something. Oh no, there are zombies in the way. Oh no." So it just seemed a bit repetitive

00:07:55 for me. But yeah, I'm a show. YouTube drama videos. Right, right. Did anyone enjoy Fringe?

00:08:04 I don't know what that one is. I watched Bones. It was a good show. I thought that was enjoyable

00:08:12 and all of that. So there's some pretty people and bodies. Life bodies, dead bodies, the usual

00:08:19 thing. Anyway, so we'll get there. You've heard the news about Matthew Perry. Should we get to

00:08:24 Ice Road Truckers? Yeah. If that's not a show that's going to help you appreciate your desk

00:08:30 job, I don't know what it is. Did you know Kitchen Nightmares is back? Well, since people

00:08:35 mentioned Kitchen Nightmares, I did watch some Kitchen Nightmares and I thought that they were

00:08:44 very interesting. It was very instructive to see just the high IQ, low IQ collision, because

00:08:51 Gordon Ramsay is like a super high IQ guy and twitchy and impatient and the hands constantly

00:08:58 flapping around like trapped Italian birds in a cage. And yeah, it was a good show. It was an

00:09:05 interesting show. I think it's kind of a Howard Roark show and Howard Roark gets a mediocre

00:09:11 architect to be great by passing along his genius. And I think Gordon Ramsay fires some energy and

00:09:19 structure and standards into these pathetic, failing restaurants, which is obviously people

00:09:26 who just don't listen, right? He comes and the show is always the same, right? There's

00:09:30 some vainglorious guy who refuses to admit that he's doing badly. He's a terrible cook. And Gordon

00:09:37 Ramsay comes and tries his food. The food sucks. And then the guy says, "Well, all the customers

00:09:42 like it. I don't know what you're talking about, man." And then Gordon Ramsay says, "Well, if all

00:09:46 the customers like it, why is your restaurant going out of business? Oh, and by the way,

00:09:50 you haven't told your wife that you're three quarters of a million dollars in debt and you're

00:09:53 going to lose your house." And anyway, and then they revamp it. And of course, people come to the

00:09:58 restaurant because it's Gordon Ramsay. They want to be in a documentary. They want to have had that

00:10:02 experience. Whether it's able to be sustained seems somewhat unlikely. The UK version of Kitchen

00:10:12 Nightmares is less dramatic and better, in my opinion. Maybe, maybe, maybe. I don't remember

00:10:20 liking Friends. Oh, I mean, personally, I thought Friends was very funny. Nihilistic, of course,

00:10:25 and fairly corrupt to the core, but had some very funny stuff in it. Watching Phoebe sing along to

00:10:31 the bagpipes was something that had me almost wet myself. It was so funny. And the comedians,

00:10:38 I thought, were very skilled. Anyway, so let's get back to The Morning Show.

00:10:44 Again, well acted, fairly well written. And in it, I'm not going to give you any real spoilers here

00:10:53 in case you wanted to watch the show. And I find the show interesting. Listen, I don't want to get

00:10:59 all kinds. Like, it's got some good trashy soapy drama in it, and I get all of that. But I'm also,

00:11:04 because it's so left-leaning, it's like watching The West Wing, although it's not as well written

00:11:09 or well acted as The West Wing, which was kind of in a class of its own. But I watched it in part

00:11:14 and, again, I'm not trying to say, "Oh, it's all justified by this." But I really do. I watch it

00:11:21 in part because I'm desperate to understand the mindset. I mean, it's a very liberal,

00:11:26 very Democrat, very left-leaning show. And it's pretty wild to try. I'm really fairly

00:11:36 desperate to try and understand this mindset. Because, of course, it is a very dominant mindset

00:11:40 and, in my view, of course, a very dangerous mindset. And I'll tell you what I got from it

00:11:47 that I've been kind of obsessing over these last couple of days. So hopefully this will make some

00:11:54 sense to you. So long story short, there's a woman named Levy, who's played by Jennifer Aniston.

00:12:05 And she is the talent, right? She's the on-screen personality and so on. And she's had this producer

00:12:11 who's been with her for, I don't know, like 20 years. And his name is Chip. Alex, Levy, and

00:12:17 Chip. Alex and Chip. So it doesn't really matter what the conflict is, but he's mad at her about

00:12:25 something, she's mad at him about something. And then in the middle of a fairly ferocious argument,

00:12:32 she suddenly steps back, puts her hands to her temple and says, "I just can't do this anymore.

00:12:37 I can't do this anymore." And she has this thing, and this is obviously kind of chilling words to

00:12:43 hear if you're in a sort of economic or romantic relationship, somebody saying, "I just can't do

00:12:47 this anymore." And she looks at him in wonder, like, "Wow, I'm just waking up from a bad dream.

00:12:52 You're fired." And then he, "Oh, you can't be serious." Yes, she's serious. And then he leaves

00:12:59 eventually and he turns at the door and he says, "You know, when you had COVID and I came to take

00:13:04 care of you, I told you I had COVID, but I hadn't actually had COVID. I just took care of you because

00:13:08 I really do care about you." And she just gives him this thousand yard stare, like it doesn't mean

00:13:13 anything. She doesn't say, "Oh my gosh, that's so touching. You really did make sacrifices and put

00:13:16 your health at risk for me, given the standard COVID narrative." And he just walks out. And

00:13:23 there's a 20-year relationship because they're having an argument. It's gone like it never

00:13:31 happened. Have you had that in your life? People you've known for a long time, there's some kind

00:13:37 of conflict. There's some kind of conflict and it just poof, it just goes, it vanishes. And that

00:13:48 person has gone from your life, never to return, and years or half decades or decades just goes

00:13:56 with them and you move on like it never happened, like it never happened. Have you ever had that

00:14:07 experience? I think most of us have had that experience at one time or another. Yes, her choice

00:14:14 and loss. Well, no, your choice and loss too, because you chose her, right? And it was, again,

00:14:26 very well acted, well written. I just can't do this anymore. Like there's another personality

00:14:32 that never participated in the relationship that's taking over and poof, there was no relationship.

00:14:42 Somebody says, yes, it was wrapped in a death threat and that was it. Yeah, it'll do it. Yes,

00:14:47 my best friend never saw her again. Somebody says, yeah, it took a bit longer to play out though.

00:14:52 Right, right, right. So I've really been thinking about this leftist mindset because, and this is

00:15:04 common throughout this show and other shows as well. First of all, it's a show without children.

00:15:09 That generally tends to be the leftist thing. It's a show without children. And it's a show

00:15:14 where people make up and break up constantly. So there's a lesbian relationship between

00:15:23 Juliana Margellis and Reese Witherspoon. And then there's just some fights over Reese Witherspoon's

00:15:30 mother and Reese Witherspoon's character just walks out, doesn't look back. There's a black

00:15:36 woman who has a relationship with a war reporter and she's terrified he's gotten killed in Ukraine.

00:15:43 And then she just sees him on TV giving an interview and he never called her. And oh,

00:15:51 this is the guy who he went out without a mask and she like screamed and threw him out of the

00:15:55 place and all that kind of stuff. Right. And you see this continually that people, they have no

00:16:02 bond. They sort of crash and collide together, usually over sex or maybe sort of mutual ambition

00:16:08 or moneymaking. They kind of crash and collide together and then they just separate and vanish

00:16:14 like it never was. And that's when I sort of think about the leftist shows,

00:16:24 there's no bond. There's no bonding.

00:16:28 There's no bonding. As long as people's interests align, but there's always a part of them

00:16:38 that's not, as long as people's interests align, they can kind of hang out and get things done.

00:16:42 But there's always a part of them that is withheld from and distant from and not participating in the

00:16:48 relationship that can suddenly eclipse the burning light of the pretend bond and just

00:16:54 snap it out completely. Just snap it out completely.

00:16:59 No bond. And it's funny because in the whole show, the morning show, everybody's miserable

00:17:09 and so dramatic and it's all so self-important and so on. But one thing that's really interesting

00:17:14 is that there's one character who is the only character I've seen who's remotely happy and

00:17:19 content is a mother. It's the wife of Reese Witherspoon's brother. Now he's kind of crazy

00:17:26 and there's a whole Jan Sixth thing about it, but the mother is like, you know, happy and pleasant

00:17:31 and bonded with her baby and eager and content and all of that. So I've really been thinking

00:17:38 about this sort of lack of bond. Now, let me ask you this, my friends. How many people would you say

00:17:46 you are well bonded to? Now, well bonded means rain or shine, good or bad, you're just going

00:17:55 through it, whatever the weather, in or out of the money, you are in it for good. You are in it

00:18:02 in perpetuity. Do you have those people no matter what? No matter what.

00:18:12 Right. So we've got three people, three people, zero, maybe only one or at most two.

00:18:24 You know, I remember saying to my daughter, if she's in a con, I mean,

00:18:30 she's had conflicts, of course, like all kids. And I've always said to her, look,

00:18:33 in any conflict situation, I'm 150% on your side. Like you tell me what it is, I'm on your side,

00:18:41 150%. Maybe later in private, I might have a criticism or two or some feedback or something

00:18:46 like that. But I'm like, there's no wedge that could be driven between us. There's nothing that

00:18:53 anyone could say that would have me not take your side. I will always take your side. And again,

00:18:58 it doesn't mean that there's never any feedback ever, but I will always take your side. And on

00:19:04 the few times where that has come up, well, I take her side. I mean, I always take her side.

00:19:11 And the other kid tries to say stuff and it's like, nope, that's not my daughter.

00:19:15 And so, and because of that, she has very few conflicts.

00:19:19 Let's see other people saying zero, five, maybe six. That's good. One, not a spouse.

00:19:28 One or two, wish it were. One wife. I felt capable of it. I just can't seem to find reciprocation.

00:19:35 So, do you know that we evolved on the foundation of bond

00:19:42 of absolute devotion, right? The tribe, absolute devotion, absolute support within the tribe.

00:19:53 That's what, was she ever wrong in a conflict? Well, I don't know what you mean by wrong.

00:19:59 Was she ever immoral? Well, no, of course not. But was there ever a time when she could have handled

00:20:04 it slightly better? Well, that's true of everyone in conflict, right? So, she can give me feedback.

00:20:08 I can give her feedback. So, she's never been morally wrong. But, you know, there are times

00:20:13 where a couple of tweaks here and there might have helped out the situation. And of course,

00:20:17 I do all of this because the stronger the bond is with her parents, and maybe a little bit more,

00:20:23 even particularly with her father, the stronger the bond is with her father, the less likely people

00:20:28 are to mess with her, right? Because that's just a, they have a sense for that. They have, right?

00:20:32 If she's got backup, if she's got somebody who's going to support her no matter what, then people

00:20:36 don't really mess with her as much, right? Somebody says, "Wife and five kids, brother and

00:20:42 four long-term guy friends." Ah, that's great. That's great to hear. So, yeah, we kind of evolved

00:20:48 on these bonds, bonds with tribe, bonds with family, bonds with elders, bond with culture,

00:20:54 bond with history, bond with land, bond with religion, bond with God. We just, we pair-bonded,

00:20:59 right? Now, in this show, there's no pair-bonding. Now, let me ask you, it's going to be a bit of a

00:21:12 trick question, but let me make the case. This is sort of what I've been thinking about.

00:21:15 Do we bond with other people directly? Do we bond with other people directly?

00:21:29 When we say, "I have a pair-bond," are we bonding with other people directly?

00:21:37 I know, sort of to ask the question in a sense is to answer it, and I know it's a bit of an

00:21:41 odd way of putting it, but hopefully this will make some sense as I cruise forward on this.

00:21:47 So, what? Yeah, don't we bond over shared values? That's right.

00:21:53 The pair-bonding is not with the other person.

00:21:56 I have not pair-bonded with my wife. We pair-bond over virtues.

00:22:07 Does this make sense? This was a radical thought to be,

00:22:10 because pair-bonding has something to do with predictable behavior. Predictable behavior

00:22:15 means integrity to some kind of values, hopefully good ones. So, we don't pair-bond

00:22:20 with another person. We mutually pair-bond over shared values.

00:22:25 So, how do you kill the pair-bond in people, and why would you want to do that? Well,

00:22:37 the why, I think, is pretty obvious, and I think this is more true for women than it is for men.

00:22:42 Men tend to—I mean, we have our strengths and weaknesses, but one of the strengths that men have

00:22:46 is that we tend to be slightly better at being independent, right? Because we don't have kids

00:22:55 in the same way, obviously, that women do with the pregnancy and breastfeeding and so on.

00:23:00 So, we tend to be a little bit better at independence than women are.

00:23:05 So, for women, without the pair-bond, life is full of anxiety, full of fear, full of worry, concern,

00:23:15 possibilities of bad things happening, you know, this sort of—and you could see this kind of

00:23:20 coming out full flight with things like COVID, right, where you just—I think women are more

00:23:26 easily programmed to experience fear. Fear. If you can break the pair-bond, particularly for women,

00:23:38 women feel anxiety, nervousness, fear, vulnerability, because they're not, you know,

00:23:44 protected, which they need to be biologically because of the massive investment they make in

00:23:48 the offspring. And, of course, if you can break the pair-bond between women and men,

00:23:55 what do women pair-bond with? What do they try to use to gain the security that they don't get

00:24:02 because they're not pair-bonded? What do they—where do they run? Yeah, they run to the state.

00:24:11 They run to authority. They run to the leaders, because women are all about resource transfer,

00:24:18 which is, again, this is not a negative, this is beautiful, it's why we're all here,

00:24:21 but women are all about resource transfer. I need someone to take care of me because I'm

00:24:24 having kids. And if there's not someone who loves them, who they're pair-bonded with,

00:24:30 to give them resource transfer, they run to the state. So you understand, if you want to gain

00:24:38 power as a government, you destroy the pair-bond, which makes women anxious,

00:24:46 which makes them vote for bigger government.

00:24:51 Now, and I was alluding to that when I did the speech in the show on Friday night about

00:25:00 the black woman. I played as a black woman talking to her woke, registered nurse daughter.

00:25:05 Now, and you can see this, of course, in my novel The Present, where Rachel pivots from Arlo

00:25:19 to the Christian Steadmuffin. Now, how do you break the pair-bond? How do you break the pair-bond?

00:25:29 Well, of course, you can bribe with sex and status and money and so on, right? I mean,

00:25:34 there's a lot of that in media. But how do you break the pair-bond? Well, what you do

00:25:38 is, since we pair-bond over values, the way that you break the pair-bond and thus swell the power

00:25:47 of the state is you say to people, "There are no values. There's no truth. There's no God. If God

00:25:57 is the source of your values, we'll throw the baby out with the bathwater. There's no objectivity.

00:26:03 There's no reality. You can't even trust your senses." You make people radically subjective.

00:26:08 Tell me if this line of argument makes sense and also if it's of value to you.

00:26:17 Because if you look at, in particular, the post-war period,

00:26:21 if you look at the post-war period coming out of the left, particularly the French

00:26:28 philosophers, was this radical attack on objectivity, on truth, on virtue, on values.

00:26:33 So, if there's no truth, there's no values, there's no virtues, there's no reality,

00:26:42 there's no objectivity, then people become random. They pursue immediate sense pleasure. They pursue

00:26:52 status for no particular purpose. What replaces integrity is almost always vanity, and vanity is

00:27:00 unstable. Vanity is about domination and therefore is the opposite of connection.

00:27:09 This is the weird thing that you see where people think that by trash-talking their partner they

00:27:14 look better. It's like, no, no, you don't understand. By trash-talking your partner,

00:27:19 you're trash-talking yourself. Which is why when the other person said, "Yeah, it was her loss."

00:27:24 And it's like, "No, no, no, but it was your loss for having... Don't try and status up someone."

00:27:29 I mean, I don't think I've ever talked about an ex-girlfriend like, "It was great,

00:27:34 she was terrible." It's like, "No, it wasn't bad, but I was still learning and, right,

00:27:37 wasn't terrible." Doesn't it strip away a woman's free will/agency to say they're programmed to run

00:27:45 to the state for resource transfer even though it goes against basic principles of morality?

00:27:50 Oh my gosh. I try not to get too annoyed at the nitpickers.

00:27:59 And I know that this, "Oh, how could this be a nitpicking question?" It's a very important

00:28:03 and essential question. But don't ask me questions about free will. Please, I'm begging everyone here.

00:28:12 This is just a, "Be reasonable, be polite, be considerate, be thoughtful." Right?

00:28:17 Don't ask me questions about free will without knowing my position on free will.

00:28:27 It's rude. Honestly, it's rude. And I'll tell you why in just a second, right?

00:28:35 And I get you're not trying to be rude, you're asking a reasonable question. I'm sure it sounds

00:28:41 reasonable to other people. But a moment's thought can answer it. And this is how I know

00:28:45 that this is triggering you, you're anxious, so you're dumping out a question there to distract

00:28:49 me from what I'm saying because to manage your anxiety rather than allow the pursuit of truth.

00:28:55 Okay. Now, when I say, "Know my position on free will," I'm not saying you have to agree with it,

00:29:02 but you have to know it. Right? If I'm going to critique or ask a question of a philosopher,

00:29:10 it is incumbent upon me to know what that philosopher has said about the topic before,

00:29:14 otherwise I'm kind of wasting his and everyone's time, right?

00:29:18 So, does anyone here remember my definition of free will? What is my definition of free will?

00:29:28 It is, it's a rhetorical question because I know it would be a lot to type out,

00:29:34 free will. And I've got three shows on free will. And if you're concerned about questions of free

00:29:41 will and you're part of this conversation, understanding my arguments is valuable because

00:29:45 that's the context in which this conversation is occurring. Right? So, if I want to go and

00:29:51 argue with an animal rights activist, it's important for me to know what the arguments

00:29:55 are that the animal rights activist has made so that I'm not just coming in out of nowhere.

00:30:00 So, free will is our ability to compare proposed actions to ideal standards.

00:30:12 Free will is our ability to compare our proposed actions to ideal standards.

00:30:15 Because it's the one thing that we can do that animals can't, right? Now, if I've just talked

00:30:21 about how the destruction of ideal standards was the work of the post-war left, particularly out

00:30:26 of France, then when I say that they take away truth, values, virtue, ethics, morality, philosophy,

00:30:34 objectivity, then what they've done is they've destroyed ideal standards. There are no ideal

00:30:38 standards. So, if you don't have any ideal standards to compare your proposed actions to,

00:30:44 you fundamentally don't have free will.

00:30:47 You don't have free will if you don't have any ideal standards. And we can see this with the

00:30:59 development of the very accurate meme known as the NPC, right? The NPC is the person who just

00:31:05 has pre-programmed responses. And like I met a guy not too long ago who was, he was a wealthy guy,

00:31:17 and he put all of his kids through PhDs and all of that. And he was railing against Trump. And

00:31:22 one of the things he railed against Trump was, well, Trump got money from his father to start

00:31:28 his business, so he's not a real businessman, right? And I said, well, does that mean your

00:31:32 kids aren't really educated because you paid for them to go all the way through their PhDs?

00:31:37 Which was, you know, massive amounts of money. And I said, it's interesting because proportional

00:31:41 to the Trump wealth, I bet you the money that Trump got to start his businesses was less

00:31:45 in terms of percentage than the money you gave to your kids for their education. So, why is it bad

00:31:52 for Trump's father to help him, but it's really good for you to help your kids? I just, you know,

00:31:58 and you know, it's like short circuit hostility, right? I mean, in his world, in his circle,

00:32:07 that's just the price of, you know, the price of having a social life if you have to hate Trump,

00:32:12 even though, you know, it doesn't make any sense relative to what you're doing, at least those

00:32:15 particular criticisms, right? I remember the days back in 2015 when I thought, oh, well, the people,

00:32:21 the reason that people dislike this person or that person is they simply don't have enough

00:32:25 information. So, once I give them the right information, they'll just change their view.

00:32:28 Oh, the optimism, wasn't it glorious? And, you know, there was a couple of years without war.

00:32:37 That's pretty nice, wasn't it? It's pretty nice, particularly for my younger male audience. It's

00:32:41 pretty nice. So, yeah, so if you say, right, if you say, doesn't it strip away a woman's

00:32:49 free will/agency to say that they're programmed to run to the state for resource transfer,

00:32:54 even though it goes against basic principles of morality? Right. So, as I've said, and again,

00:33:00 if you were listening, you don't even know, like when I said the left was dedicated to destroying

00:33:05 the conceptions of the basic principles of morality, and then you say, well, but why would

00:33:11 women do things that go against the basic principles of morality? It's like, well, what

00:33:16 I've done is I've sabotaged your GPS, and then you say, knowing that someone sabotaged the GPS,

00:33:21 why are they driving in the wrong direction? It's like, well, no, right, GPS got sabotaged. So,

00:33:25 you strip away free will when you strip away truth, objectivity, reason, integrity, virtue,

00:33:31 all of that kind of stuff. So, I just wanted to sort of point that out, that

00:33:35 if you listen really actively and think for yourself in a conversation,

00:33:41 you don't need to ask these questions, right? So, when I say they stripped away morality,

00:33:47 you'd say, well, why would women be, doesn't it, like, why would women be acting against morality?

00:33:51 It's like, I just, I just did 10 minutes on, I don't mean to sound annoyed, right, but it is

00:33:55 mildly annoying when I'm kind of in a flow. And again, I can ignore the questions and all that,

00:33:59 but this is a two-way street, right? Otherwise, I'd just do a solo show. So, there's no bond.

00:34:05 When there's no bond, you have great and deep anxiety. And as you age, it gets worse and worse

00:34:14 and worse, which is why you see, particularly the older white women, just, you know, with these

00:34:18 wheelbarrows of antidepressants and all this kind of stuff, just big. So, when you're young,

00:34:22 you have the illusion of the bond, right? For women, what's the illusion of a bond?

00:34:30 When they're, yeah, without bonds, there's bondage. Yeah, it's a good way to put it.

00:34:35 So, for women, what's the illusion of pair bonding when they're young? What gives them the illusion

00:34:43 of a bond when they're young? Compliments? That's a very male perspective, and that's funny,

00:34:56 because for men, we're so rarely complimented. Like, you know that meme of, like, a woman being

00:35:02 told she has a nice smile for the 20th time that day, she's kind of rolling her eyes, but then

00:35:06 there's a man smiling at the corner, thinking about that one time 20 years ago when a woman

00:35:10 who wasn't his mother told him he looked handsome. So, for you, it's like, "Wow,

00:35:16 pair bonding is compliments." No, no. For women, compliments don't pay the bills.

00:35:20 Compliments is not resource transfer. It's indication of potential resource transfer.

00:35:23 So, for women, what is, yeah, men's unwavering attention and provisioning of her lifestyle,

00:35:32 steady boyfriend. Well, whatever transfers resources to her, and the resource, again,

00:35:38 some resources are social media clout, which often translates into some kind of income

00:35:43 and so on, right? So, it's admiration that transfers resources.

00:35:48 That is, I mean, when I worked in a hardware store in the Dawn Mills Mall when I was, like,

00:35:56 I don't know, 14 or something like that, my friend and I, who we worked together, he was a really

00:36:04 great guy, my friend and I would go to a particular convenience store every break to grab a snack.

00:36:13 And why, oh, why, oh, why did we go to that particular convenience store to get our snacks?

00:36:23 There were lots of convenience stores around, lots of places we could have got our snacks.

00:36:26 Yeah, because there was a cute girl behind the counter and we liked to flirt with her.

00:36:30 Now, not blaming her, I'm just, you know, this is the reality of the situation.

00:36:34 So, she had job security, she had job security

00:36:39 because she was pretty, and because she was pretty, the income of the convenience store went up.

00:36:47 I mean, she was cute enough that there were, like,

00:36:49 guys lined up to get snacks with, like, two empty stores around, right?

00:36:58 And we all know this phenomenon. Do you know what one of the biggest phenomenon

00:37:05 of pretty girl corruption there is, the biggest phenomenon in America in particular,

00:37:12 of pretty girl corruption? What is it? I'm sure you know. Some of the biggest effects ever.

00:37:21 No, it's not the feminism stuff. I said pretty girl corruption.

00:37:25 You may or may not know if you've known anything about the industry.

00:37:29 Social media? No. Well, that's a consequence.

00:37:32 Pretty girl corruption? Taylor Swift? No.

00:37:35 Waitresses? No.

00:37:37 No, I mean, it certainly has an effect. Being a pretty girl traps, can trap a woman in the

00:37:42 waitress world for too long and then she runs out of looks and it's pretty bad from there on, right?

00:37:46 You're not sure what I mean by that question? Okay, let me give you the answer and then,

00:37:52 obviously, if I'm wrong, you can tell me and if it doesn't make sense, you can tell me.

00:37:55 The biggest example of pretty girl corruption is pharmaceutical reps,

00:38:00 right? The pretty women who visit doctors and get doctors to prescribe the medications

00:38:09 that the pharmaceutical companies want to sell. Have you heard about this at all?

00:38:18 Yeah, selling to lonely doctors, coming in, sitting down in your tight skirt and your low-cut top and

00:38:23 chatting. And this is like a well, I remember on the old show Scrubs, there was a whole thing

00:38:28 with Heather Locklear about this, right? That the hot girl drug pusher is kind of a phenomenon,

00:38:34 right? Does that make sense? And if you think about, you know, the opioid crisis and

00:38:42 antidepressants and ADHD drugs and all of that, I mean, a lot of them are pushed by pretty girls

00:38:50 to doctors. Tell me if I'm wrong about this, but in terms of like a hundred thousand Americans dying

00:39:01 a year from drug overdoses, again, it's not obviously all at the feet of this, but a pretty

00:39:07 big proportion of it is. So, yeah, it's a huge problem. So, when women are young and very

00:39:22 attractive, they feel because men desire them that that's like a pair bond, right?

00:39:37 Because she's desired, she feels that there's a bond. Does this argument make sense so far? I

00:39:42 want to make sure that I'm… And this is actually, I mean, this is on movies and TVs now, not so much

00:39:51 in the theaters, but this is being talked about, you know, I saw a bit of one show where there was

00:40:00 this one hot girl who was a farmer rep who got another hot girl to be a farmer rep because she

00:40:04 had such a great figure and the doctors are all lonely. And then one doctor snarled at her that

00:40:08 she's a drug pusher and all this kind of stuff. So, now, but you see, where drug advertisements

00:40:21 are not allowed, the problem can be even worse, because then how do you get doctors to describe,

00:40:28 to, sorry, describe, how do you get doctors to prescribe your drugs? Well, you get the pretty

00:40:34 girls to go in. But the other thing you do, of course, is you shower them with gifts, with free

00:40:38 trips. And, you know, there's a big conference in Hawaii, we'd love for you to give a 15-minute

00:40:42 speech. We're going to pay all expenses, bring your wife, we'll give you a week in Hawaii, just,

00:40:47 you know, a 15-minute speech. And, all right, so, ew. Ew, ew, ew.

00:41:00 So, wait, what, you think farmer direct-to-consumer sales are positive?

00:41:05 I don't know what that means. None of the whole environment is negative.

00:41:14 And the reason is that farmer ads to consumers, which I think is only allowed in, what is it,

00:41:26 New Zealand and America. Direct ads to consumers, why are they negative? Does it violate the

00:41:32 non-aggression principle to say you should try my drug? No, I guess, as long as you're honest

00:41:36 about side effects and all of that. But the reason all of this stuff is nonsense is that how many

00:41:40 people pay for their own drugs directly? Right? Very few. Very few. Very few. I mean, how many

00:41:52 people, I mean, if COVID didn't bring this out, right, how many people paid for the entire cost

00:41:57 of developing, marketing, producing the vaccines, COVID vaccines?

00:42:05 Well, it was all "free", right? So, people can afford to virtue signal when they've got no skin

00:42:11 in the game, right? So, for women, they feel that there's pair bonding because they are desired.

00:42:22 But that's not virtue, that's lust. And lust and virtue can co-join beautifully, which is why

00:42:30 sexuality is essential to male-female pair bonding, so virtue and sexuality can live together

00:42:36 beautifully. But if the man is acting out of lust, the woman feels like there's a pair bond,

00:42:45 and then the man dumps her. He ghosts her, he moves on, because he's not into her for her virtues.

00:42:54 He's into her, well, because he's into her, right? And once he's in her, he's out of her and moving

00:43:01 on. And then she gets bitter, and then she blames men, right? "Oh, men are inconstant, men don't,

00:43:06 men can't, you can't rely on men, they're selfish bastards", right? I mean, every time I hear a

00:43:12 woman put down men, all I hear is that she's frustrated that the vagina coin is declined

00:43:18 at this time in her life.

00:43:26 So, if you're bitter at men, it's because the V-card gets declined after a while.

00:43:35 And, well, it gets declined constantly, but then it loses value over time, right?

00:43:39 So, she has the illusion of pair bonding because she's desired, and of course the politicians woo

00:43:53 her and "flirt" with her, which is why all politicians who are successful have to have a

00:44:00 full head of hair, all politicians who are successful have to be reasonably good-looking,

00:44:04 all politicians who are successful have to be taller than their opponents, and so on.

00:44:09 Because, like, Jesus used to be the ersatz boyfriend for some women, cats become the ersatz

00:44:17 companionship for some women, and politicians, like, the number of women who dreamed about having

00:44:22 sex with Barack Obama was chilling beyond words, right? They literally form, like, whoever provides

00:44:28 them resources, they fantasize about, well, except, I guess, except the actual taxpayer.

00:44:33 So, this young woman that worked at a ski resort, wow, the miles and bitterness on her.

00:44:40 Sure, sure. Well, ski resorts in particular are hotbeds of powdery fuckery, for sure.

00:44:52 I mean, there are a lot, I mean, it's like tree planting, right? There's just a lot of

00:44:56 predatory sexual crap that goes on at ski resorts, for sure.

00:45:02 "Baron Trump will be the king of America based upon these states." Yeah, except he's, well,

00:45:10 I don't know, it's hard to see how his looks are going to settle,

00:45:12 but he still looks a bit awkward, but yeah, definitely the man is a giraffe.

00:45:20 So, if you can convince people there's no truth, there's no virtues, there's no morals,

00:45:27 there's no values. And again, this is like, combined with this, I've again struggled my

00:45:33 way through, I've almost finished the biography of Marlon Brando, who was a big influence on me

00:45:39 when I was younger, because of course I was in theater school, and he's the best film actor

00:45:44 that has ever lived, or probably ever will live. And so I watched, I've been watching a couple of

00:45:51 his movies, and the one I watched, which is really wild and insane and truly psychotic, is called

00:45:56 "The Last Tango in Paris". And the behavior is just completely random, everybody's just completely

00:46:01 random, nobody makes any sense at all. But I guess that's just life when you're bouncing around

00:46:06 various lusts and perversions and all of that. So, you convince people there's no truth, there's

00:46:17 no reason, there's no reality, there's no objectivity, there's no virtue, and they lose

00:46:21 the ability to pair bond, because we pair bond based on shared values. And if there aren't any

00:46:26 shared values, then you have to lie to yourself. If you don't believe in anything, you have to lie

00:46:36 to yourself. So, if a woman has no particular morals or virtues, and I don't want to say that

00:46:42 I'm picking on women here, men can do it in other ways, right, but it's a little easier to understand

00:46:47 in this context, because it's more sort of based on sexual. But if a woman doesn't have any

00:46:53 particular virtues or values or morals, and lots of men desire her, then she has to say

00:46:59 "I have value because I'm desired. I have value because hormones, I have value because whole,

00:47:06 I have value because semen, I have value because whatever, right, sex". Now, nobody really believes

00:47:12 that, but you have to lie to yourself and invent all of these other things, you know, like "Well,

00:47:17 I just asked the universe for things and the universe provides". Yeah, yeah, yeah. If by

00:47:22 universe you mean penis, then yes, penis provision is a thing that a lot of women confuse with

00:47:27 mysticism. So, you have no pair bond, and the lust that you lie to yourself and say is your value

00:47:44 diminishes over time, then there's just this bitterness. And there's just this bitterness.

00:47:50 I mean, when women say "This is how much I love cats, I know that the pussy has gone up in one

00:48:02 market and down in another". It's all a confession. All a confession. And I have a lot of sympathy for

00:48:11 women about this, because, I mean, come on, dudes. I mean, we like to say "Well, we're more sensible".

00:48:17 It's like, no, no, no, women just get the temptation earlier and younger.

00:48:21 That's all. That's all. And you and I would be the same for the most part in those situations,

00:48:28 absent some significant intervention like God or morality or philosophy or something like that.

00:48:33 We'd be the same. We'd be the same. The idea that there's this whole other group of people

00:48:39 who are tempted by things you'd never be tempted by and you can feel superior to them,

00:48:42 it's really sad and pathetic. It's part of the red pill MGTOW stuff that I really dislike.

00:48:47 "Ouch, gynocentrism!" It's like, yeah, yeah, that's a thing for sure. "Women, they bond with

00:48:51 you over resources." Yeah, yeah, that's a thing. If you want true love, you've got to go to Jesus.

00:48:56 You can't go to women any more than men, right? So, love is the pair-bonding mechanism we use to

00:49:02 raise the next generation. It's not there to serve your ego, your vanity, your life, your purpose.

00:49:08 It's not there to make you feel important. It's not there to make you feel needed. It's not there

00:49:12 to fill up the hole left by your absent or neglectful or abusive or violent or distant

00:49:16 or distracted mother. Love is there to pair-bond you to raise the next generation. And, of course,

00:49:22 virtue is important and values are important because you want to raise a good, healthy,

00:49:25 wise next generation. But love is not there to make you feel better.

00:49:29 Love is not there to make you feel better. Love is not there to serve your ego. Love is not there

00:49:37 to serve your vanity. Love is not there to make you feel wanted or special or treasured or

00:49:42 important. Love is there to pair-bond you to raise the next generation. And, yes, we absolutely want

00:49:49 to mix virtue and love to make it good and stable and noble. But it's not there for you, right?

00:50:00 You are there for love. Like your sex drive is not there so that you feel important or valued

00:50:06 or treasured or good. Your sex drive is there like you are for your sex drive. Your sex drive

00:50:11 isn't for you. You are for your looks. Your looks aren't for you. You are for love. Love is not for

00:50:15 you. Like philosophy is not for me. You understand? Philosophy is not for me. I am for philosophy.

00:50:26 Pair-bonding happens when you follow rules. You are pair-bonded with the rules

00:50:39 and through that you gain trust and stability with the other person.

00:50:42 And the one thing you can see in these shows is that people break their own rules

00:50:46 all the time. They're all hypersensitive about offense and then they

00:50:51 yell the most horrible things at each other. I mean, they obviously know they're hypersensitive

00:50:58 about racism but they put down white males all the time. So the fact that they make these rules

00:51:02 and break these rules is precisely why they can't be trusted. And there's something else which I

00:51:06 sort of wanted to mention. Now of course this is a live show so if you have questions or comments

00:51:13 I'm certainly happy to provide but the one thing that I've noticed if you want to have questions

00:51:17 or issues or whatever if you want me to finish this up that's fine but the one thing I have

00:51:20 really noticed is that in conjunction with this lack of bonding with individuals is this insane

00:51:26 bonding with abstract quote morals. Again I sort of was thinking about this in the Marlon Brando

00:51:34 biography because I mean the man was obsessed with social justice stuff. He was obsessed with

00:51:39 the rights of the aboriginal population of America and anti-racism and this that and the other.

00:51:44 And yeah I mean these are all interesting conversations to have

00:51:48 but his son was thrown in jail for murder. His daughter committed suicide.

00:51:54 He had disastrous relationships with just about everyone around him. Even later in his life he got

00:52:00 really obsessed with computers and back in the dial-up AOL days he used to get into political

00:52:05 arguments with people which would usually end with him Marlon Brando, the elderly Marlon Brando,

00:52:10 telling them to F off and then he would get banned and then one of his assistants would have to call

00:52:15 up AOL and pretend that Marlon Brando was his 13 year old kid and he'd promised to never do it

00:52:22 again. So you've got a guy in his 70s swearing at people on the internet getting banned and one of

00:52:25 his assistants has to pretend that he's a kid in order to get his account back. So I mean that's

00:52:32 really tragic. So he cares about the aboriginal population and he cares about this then he cares

00:52:38 about that but he humiliated co-workers, abused his children, harmed everyone pretty much that

00:52:52 he came in contact with. So the less the virtue the more the ideology. The less you bond with

00:53:02 virtue and therefore people like genuine virtue, personal virtue and therefore people the more

00:53:07 you bond with these weird otherworldly ideologies. I mean the man put more effort, Marlon Brando,

00:53:19 into aboriginal rights than he did into parenting his own children. His own children!

00:53:30 He talked about virtue all the time and had sex with anything that had even half a pulse

00:53:41 in the neighborhood. He claimed to want to promote virtue in the world and ended up

00:53:53 glamorizing both a crime lord in The Godfather and a complete sociopath which he played with

00:54:04 great charisma and skill in La Tango in Paris and other. Now I guess he did a dry white season where

00:54:10 he played a judge in South Africa but even that was sort of the social justice warrior stuff.

00:54:14 The less you bond with actual virtue and actual people the more you bond with these

00:54:19 alien ideologies and by alien I don't mean that they have no value. Yeah these are important

00:54:26 conversations to have but not compared to being a good parent. Be a good parent? I mean this is my

00:54:34 whole first novel, Revolutions, is about this struggle. Do you pursue abstract virtues or

00:54:41 personal values? And isn't it often the case that those who love mankind in the abstract

00:54:51 hate people in their lives the most? And in this morning show they're constantly talking about

00:54:59 justice and virtue and sensitivity and the right behavior and they all treat each other horribly.

00:55:06 That the more, I don't know, the cause and effect is tough. The less you're bonded with people

00:55:16 the more you bond with ideology and then the more you bond with ideology

00:55:22 the less you like people. And this of course you know is the case with the Marxists and so on who

00:55:30 claim to you know just want justice and rightness and so on but then end up slaughtering people by

00:55:34 the tens of millions or more. The more you bond with weird abstract virtues and again not to say

00:55:44 that there's no virtue in talking about these things. There is but you should have virtue in

00:55:51 your life first before you start talking about injustices from agencies you can't control.

00:56:00 I can't believe that the American government broke its treaties with the natives.

00:56:06 Okay well your own kids are spiraling into addiction and violence and but but in 1890

00:56:18 the Comanche tribe like what the hell? I mean what the hell? It's like that famous meme of

00:56:28 the obese woman in the wheelchair wearing a mask saying to the fit woman jogging by

00:56:34 your lack of a mask is harming my health. Like no I'm not sure about that so much

00:56:39 compared to say the crippling obesity.

00:56:47 So there does seem to be this polarity. If you're not bonded with people you bond with ideology

00:56:54 and by ideology I mean virtues you don't have to live yourself.

00:57:00 Virtues you can whine about complain about nag about but you don't actually have to live yourself.

00:57:15 And of course virtues that are completely I mean Marlon Brando with his you know the

00:57:23 the the Indians as he would put it the Indians were treated abominably by the government. It's

00:57:28 like well yeah so the solution is more government power more government transfer more government

00:57:33 resources. It's like no no no come on don't be crazy right.

00:57:41 So the ideology so then my guess is that the reason why people bond with ideology

00:57:46 is that ideology was the price of positive reactions from parents as children.

00:57:50 Right with my mother I had to agree with the crazy things she said or I would be attacked

00:58:02 and threatened with violence or ostracism which is even worse than violence for kids.

00:58:11 So I had to agree with my mother's crazy takes on things or she would attack me.

00:58:15 Right.

00:58:17 So the only way I could maintain any kind of bond with my mother was to submit to her ideology and

00:58:28 then even as an adult when I pushed mildly back against her ideology saying I would like to talk

00:58:33 about things other than these endless lawsuits you have with doctors then she ditched me. If I did

00:58:40 not conform to her weird abstract ethics right. She's like well I've got to hold these doctors

00:58:45 to account. It's like do you ever hold yourself to account for beating up your kids. No but these

00:58:49 doctors I have to do I have to hold them to account. I have to punish these doctors for their

00:58:54 bad behavior. Blah blah blah. It's like I mean as far as the virtues go that's really weird and

00:58:59 abstract compared to you know some of the wrongs that you yourself mom did. Right.

00:59:05 So I think the reason people bond with this ideology and dislike people.

00:59:10 The reason why they bond with ideology about peace and justice and reason and virtue but

00:59:18 actually abuse the people in their own lives is because when they were growing up they had to

00:59:22 conform to their parents ideology or be attacked and rejected by their parents. So they have to

00:59:27 bond with this weird alien belief system which never has to be enacted in personal virtues

00:59:33 because that was the price of having any bond with their parents.

00:59:36 So they grew up with the pseudo bond to weird abstract ethics

00:59:42 but they treat the people around them abominably because the weird abstract

00:59:49 ethics were used to treat them abominably when they were children. So they bond

00:59:54 with abstract justice but never personal virtues. And they also because they were punished attacked

01:00:06 excluded and ostracized by their parents if they questioned their parents ideology

01:00:11 they grew up bonded to this ideology Stockholm syndrome stuff and then they attack anybody

01:00:16 who questions that ideology because it's questioning the pretend bond they have

01:00:20 with their parents that they needed for survival which is why so many people

01:00:24 view questioning the ideology they have the same fight-or-flight response that they have

01:00:31 if somebody were to physically attack them and threaten their lives.

01:00:36 I mean in Last Tango in Paris the main character the Marlon Brando character Paul

01:00:47 is such a sociopathic narcissist that he has this affair with this woman obviously

01:00:54 this bizarre male fantasy she's like he's 47 she's like 19 right so it's uh it's crazy right

01:01:03 decades and decades between them he's old and haggard she's young and beautiful and he doesn't

01:01:09 he doesn't want to know her name don't tell me anything about yourself i don't want to know your

01:01:12 name i don't want to know anything about you i just want to use you as an object

01:01:16 and then as these things happen the abuser becomes the victim the one who rejects her

01:01:21 becomes the one who desperately needs her and then he corners her in her apartment

01:01:25 and she finally tells him her name at the same time as she shoots him spoiler right she shoots

01:01:33 him in other words the moment that she shows up as an individual he dies because

01:01:38 it's him or others right either he's alive or other people alive either he kills himself

01:01:45 or he kills others which is what happens when you grow up with savagely ideological parents

01:01:52 and the filmmaker Bertolucci was a Marxist and now Marxist so again there's this

01:02:01 addiction to abstract virtues such as Marxism while savagely exploiting an underpaid worker

01:02:09 which is this young woman she was 19 when she made the film she later became Maria Schneider

01:02:14 i think her name was she later became a drug addict she was passed around she died extraordinarily young

01:02:18 so he's got these abstract virtues but he exploits and abuses

01:02:25 this young woman who's wildly underpaid on his set while saying that you really should

01:02:35 protect the workers and the owners of the means of capital exploit the workers and that's the

01:02:39 greatest evil you see the disconnect it's wild right it's wild and the people who talk about

01:02:44 the most abstract virtues tend to be the most cruel individually they bond with these abstract

01:02:49 virtues which means it gives them permission to treat everyone abominably and i've just really

01:02:56 found this phenomenon absolutely fascinating recently so anyway i hope that makes some sense

01:03:03 and i appreciate you're listening to this and i'm you know happy to get your sort of thoughts and

01:03:09 and feedback on it as a whole but it doesn't look like people are particularly chatty today

01:03:14 which is obviously totally fine it's nice to have everyone come by and chat so unless there's

01:03:19 anybody's got a real yearning burning i think i'll close it off here uh today and uh zinc.tips

01:03:26 slash free domain uh let me just see here there's comments here i haven't checked for a little while

01:03:37 and i'll take someone who makes who lives one virtue consistently over someone who speaks

01:03:41 on a hundred never i've never seen them doing anything good yeah yeah for sure

01:03:47 subscribe to stardot com slash free domain marlon brando was the first professional

01:03:55 internet troll yeah kind of right kind of yeah how do we sleep at the beds of burning yeah that

01:04:02 was that australian singer from midnight oil right really concerned with all of that right

01:04:08 all right what else we got here i recommend wearing a mask over your eyes when pumping gas

01:04:18 as to avoid heart attacks from the gas prices oh yeah that's right speaking of heart attacks

01:04:22 matthew perry right died at the age of 54 i kind of forgot that he was younger than me but i guess

01:04:27 it kind of makes sense it's a couple years younger than me i came across a woman who

01:04:33 required her partner to already have a dog before she'd commit to him that's interesting

01:04:37 pursuit of personal virtue bonding with those in your actual circle doesn't seem to

01:04:46 leave much time to pursue abstract virtue in circles of people you don't know yeah

01:04:54 let's see here um hi steph why do you think we watch shows or read books with experiences of

01:05:01 pain and suffering that we'd go out of our way to avoid in real life i appreciate you

01:05:05 get into this when you're finished in your current topic uh well we see those as warnings right

01:05:11 we see those as warnings we want to see something play out when like it's the fatal attraction

01:05:21 thing right so fatal attraction this guy he's got a nice wife michael douglas got a nice wife he's

01:05:26 got kids got a good career and then this woman comes in who's hypersexual the glenn close character

01:05:32 comes in and then just starts to stalk him so you know a bird in the hand who's worth two in

01:05:40 the crazy bush i guess to remind yourself that the hot crazy matrix can be highly dangerous

01:05:45 and that you can destroy your life by having sex outside of marriage like

01:05:49 the movie reviews were like this scared the pants back on the men in america scared the pants off me

01:05:53 scared the pants back on right so you would want to see this kind of stuff to see how

01:05:57 life plays out if you make one bad decision right hello okay cool uh hey uh so i have a question

01:06:06 concerning the show that you released uh recently about the jamaican guy um you were saying in there

01:06:11 and you've said it before that uh you shouldn't know about previous uh people i mean you shouldn't

01:06:16 let people know about your history like it doesn't matter so um my question is uh

01:06:22 that's sorry i'd rather know that's not what i said no no no hang on hang on okay yeah that's

01:06:28 not what i said yeah what did i say do you remember what i said uh that if it does not

01:06:34 influence you now you should not have and if you don't want to bring it up you shouldn't have to

01:06:42 uh yeah so if something if something i just i just want to be clear about this right because

01:06:48 i'm sorry are we talking over i don't know if you can hear me or not yeah can you hear me

01:06:51 okay so when i saw when i start talking if you could stop talking i hate to be annoying but i'm

01:06:56 sorry i know i sometimes talk over people but i need to clarify if you said something incorrect

01:07:01 i need to clarify because if you keep talking when i'm talking i think you can't hear me right in

01:07:06 which case we can't have a conversation so if you do me that favor i'd appreciate it so no i didn't

01:07:11 say you can't tell anyone about your past or you don't need to tell anyone about anything to do

01:07:15 with your history because that's kind of the way you first characterized it i said look if you did

01:07:19 something that is kind of negative and it's going to give people the wrong impression and i did a

01:07:24 whole thing on this because i remember this very clearly i did a whole thing like if i were to meet

01:07:28 a woman and say i'm a thief well yeah i stole a couple of candy bars when i was 12 right so it

01:07:34 would give them the wrong impression i respect property rights now i'm a good person as far as

01:07:38 that goes so i would give people the wrong impression i don't steal anything now uh and so

01:07:44 if it's something from many from a long time ago you've dealt with it you're over it you don't do

01:07:50 that stuff anymore it's going to give people the wrong impression then it is a form of falsehood

01:07:56 to introduce yourself in a way that doesn't reflect who you are at the moment so when you say

01:08:02 steph you said don't tell anyone about your past so you don't have to tell anyone about your

01:08:06 history that's not even close to what i said and i just want to make sure that that's clear and just

01:08:11 in general for people like if you're going to bring up something that i said and the first

01:08:15 thing you do and i'm not too mad at you i'm just pointing this out in general if you want to step

01:08:20 you said on this show like please write down what i said if it's not worth you like if it's important

01:08:26 enough for you to really call and care about then you know write down what i said and get it right

01:08:30 because if the first thing you do is mischaracterize what i said that's kind of annoying if that

01:08:36 makes any sense so i'm happy to continue but i just sort of wanted to point that out if you want

01:08:40 people to like you're bringing up something in the past that's not correct regarding what i said and

01:08:49 what i said was was very different so if you want i'm just saying this in general and it's not

01:08:54 particularly important to this conversation but in general if you're going to bring up something

01:08:59 that someone said don't egregiously mischaracterize it in the beginning again i can handle it it's no

01:09:05 big deal it's part of being on the internet but i'm talking in your personal life in your personal

01:09:09 life it's going to really annoy people if you mischaracterize what they say at the beginning

01:09:14 of the conversation and listen i'm happy to have the conversation i'm just sort of pointing that

01:09:19 out that's a bad habit to misquote people at the beginning of a conversation but go ahead i'm sorry

01:09:24 i'm really nervous now um yeah i did not try to mischaracterize you i was trying to say exactly

01:09:33 what you said i guess i didn't have it no no see no no no come on man own what you did you weren't

01:09:40 even remotely trying to characterize what i said accurately and and don't play the nervous card

01:09:44 either like if you were perfectly confident to misquote me i'm fine with you feeling nervous

01:09:48 but then don't say i had no intention of misquoting you when you misquoted me because then that you

01:09:54 know that's trying to portray me as hypersensitive and reactionary and all of that it's like no no

01:09:58 no own it you did misquote me completely and that's fine it's not the end of the world i've

01:10:03 just sort of point but don't don't be this guy who's like well i didn't mean to and i my intention

01:10:07 was to quote you perfectly and it's like no no it wasn't come on man like don't don't pull that i

01:10:12 don't know half girly stuff with me right so you misquoted me it's not the end of the world i just

01:10:16 wanted to point out that it's not a great habit and if it's important enough to bring up with me

01:10:20 it's probably important enough to be to be accurate so i'm not trying to slam you i'm not trying to

01:10:25 make you feel bad but yeah don't don't give me this uh i had no intention of misquoting you and

01:10:30 the first thing you did was misquote me so good uh so the thing is i actually agree with uh

01:10:37 i actually agree with you on that it's just if it's someone that i would want to date and i would

01:10:48 want to know their history um just because it's more important for women so i was thinking in

01:10:58 terms of reciprocity um it would be something if you want to know then the other person would

01:11:06 also want to know if you know what i'm saying all right so you want to know her history is that right

01:11:14 okay would you want to read her text messages to an ex-boyfriend no

01:11:20 well why not isn't that part of her history it would be but i'm more talking about the general

01:11:28 lines like okay so what is it that you want to know you would want to know her body cam yeah

01:11:37 i would say yes okay now what if her body cam was high but she'd been in therapy uh for many years

01:11:47 and she had dealt with that and she had dealt with maybe the father absence and and she'd sort

01:11:52 of turned around and and reformed right i mean would would it be as relevant if she'd gone

01:11:58 through that process or if she hadn't gone through that process and was still sleeping around would

01:12:03 that be more relevant yes if she were sleeping around it would definitely be more relevant

01:12:10 but the thing okay but if if her past if her past sleeping around was no longer an issue she dealt

01:12:19 with it and she had repaired or fixed things in herself and had dealt with whatever holiness

01:12:25 was leading her to sleep around if she dealt with it it was in her past

01:12:31 would it be as relevant no

01:12:34 okay so it would be it would be for her to tell you she was promiscuous when she's dealt with it

01:12:44 and moved on would be like me saying i'm a thief because i stole some things when i was in my early

01:12:50 teens i mean it's more of an extreme example but it would mischaracterize it if she had former vices

01:13:00 so that she's dealt with and aren't repeating um i think yes but also there's the thing with the

01:13:10 hormones that like the more sexual partners you've had the more likely you are to have divorce

01:13:16 after the more you have

01:13:21 so and that way it's a little different from being a thief because like once you're a thief like you

01:13:30 if you stop it's whatever it's not whatever like you it probably still comes up but i would

01:13:37 say i think that it would be less of a risk

01:13:41 all right and how many uh how many girlfriends have you had and it's a long time ago

01:13:48 and how old are you 24

01:13:55 yeah 24 okay so you've been an adult for six years and how long of those six years

01:14:02 were you in a relationship i guess you could say you've been uh some people start dating sort of

01:14:06 mid-teens or whatever right so let's say sort of eight or nine years and how long of those eight

01:14:11 or nine years that you could have been dating how long have you spent in a relationship when i was

01:14:15 in high school so 16 17 i think yes and how long were you in that relationship for a year and a

01:14:24 half two years something like that okay so it has been five years no 17 you're 24 is that right it's

01:14:37 been a long time okay so it's been what seven years yeah okay so you've not been in a relationship

01:14:47 for seven years and you have no experience in an adult relationship right

01:14:55 all right um i'm back um sorry if you were just uh speaking yes so i was just saying that you're

01:15:04 seven years since you had a relationship and you have no experience in an adult relationship because

01:15:10 you were still a kid when you were dating in high school right okay so what do you think a woman

01:15:17 would say if you said i have no experience in an adult relationship but i would like to go out with

01:15:25 you uh what would you say okay try it out i don't know you don't know i probably would say

01:15:41 why not we can try it out

01:15:44 well no she wouldn't say why not we can try it out because why not would be

01:15:50 she would want an answer right so if she said to you why haven't you been in a relationship

01:15:59 as an adult ever and what would you say oh i see uh well i

01:16:11 and then i have a nothing and i've never asked myself that question

01:16:15 what you've never asked yourself why you've not had an adult relationship

01:16:23 yes i tell myself that i'm just shy and i don't want to i'm afraid of rejection yeah i would say

01:16:32 okay so you would say i've not had an adult relationship because i'm afraid of rejection

01:16:40 yes and what would a woman say to that you weren't afraid of me what changed

01:16:49 maybe well i mean we're talking about a real theoretical here how do you think a woman would

01:16:58 feel about a man who was afraid to approach women because he was afraid of rejection

01:17:03 would she feel that he would be a good provider a good person to go out and compete and get

01:17:09 resources in the world and a strong protector and so on if he was scared of girls how would a woman

01:17:16 feel about having children with him yeah that would be a pretty big risk to take

01:17:24 well it's more than a risk isn't it yeah

01:17:28 it would be like

01:17:34 uh more of a well i don't want to put it that bad but like a death sentence

01:17:41 well yeah i don't know what i mean but so but so the interesting thing is that you're concerned

01:17:49 about a woman's history right yes but what about yours

01:18:02 this called projection right where you're really concerned and maybe it's funny because we were

01:18:05 just talking about this abstract virtues versus real issues yeah right you're very concerned about

01:18:11 a woman's history but you don't have any answers for your own now i can tell you something else

01:18:17 that a woman is going to understand again we're talking about a quality woman right a woman is

01:18:21 going to understand if you say i'm 24 i've never had an adult dating relationship right is that

01:18:27 fair to say like if you have you been on dates since you were a teenager no okay so you haven't

01:18:35 been on dates right so i can tell you the dominoes that are going to fall into a quality woman's mind

01:18:43 she's going to say okay most likely a pornography addict and also is surrounded by people who

01:18:50 haven't encouraged him to deal with this problem also he's fine sitting with a pretty disastrous

01:18:57 problem and not solving it and not fixing it and then when she asks you why you haven't dated as

01:19:03 an adult and you give her that thousand yard stare and you say i guess that's never crossed

01:19:07 my mind she's she would also be of concern that you're not self-reflective and and so on does

01:19:12 this sort of make sense so i'm not sure it's a woman's history you need to be

01:19:19 majorly concerned with at the moment yeah i should be trying to fix myself

01:19:24 um what is uh so scary about rejection

01:19:31 um

01:19:39 i i would say it's probably something to do with my parents

01:19:47 uh

01:19:50 you haven't really reflected on this stuff much at all right no

01:19:56 so and i'm just this is not a criticism or anything i'm just genuinely curious

01:20:02 how long have you been listening to what i do it's probably

01:20:07 2021 ish so it's been a few years definitely i mean i heard of you back in 2016 but i was still

01:20:16 too young back then okay so uh for you've been listening for a couple of years and have you

01:20:25 listened to call-in shows or anything like that kind of stuff every everyone oh of course yeah

01:20:30 because you were just quoting for the jamaican guy right and did it ever say when i delve into

01:20:38 people's history and how it affects their present and so on did it ever occur to you that this would

01:20:42 be a useful process for you to go through i don't mean necessarily with me but just

01:20:46 in general try and figure out why you are the way you are based on where you came from

01:20:50 yes i i'm sorry can you say that again or rephrase it

01:21:00 well you listen to me talk to people about their past and how it shapes them into who they are

01:21:12 and but you don't really have any answers as to why you're not dating or why you're afraid of

01:21:18 rejection so much like in other words you've listened to all of these connections being made

01:21:21 between the past and the present has it never really crossed your mind to say well i should

01:21:26 do that i should try and you know i'm listening to these shows with these connections between the

01:21:30 past and the present i should try and figure out that stuff for myself as well yes it has

01:21:35 but i haven't done it but you haven't really done it though like it's occurred to you but

01:21:41 you haven't really done it because again i'm asking you these things and you're like well

01:21:44 you know i sat down and i wrote out my life and here's the thing like you don't need a call-in

01:21:48 show i mean this is all the process that everyone can do and again i'm not trying to be mr nagging

01:21:53 i'm just i'm genuinely curious about you know you're like an overweight guy who keeps watching

01:21:59 diet shows and then has never analyzed his own diet or anything like that wow yeah

01:22:06 yeah

01:22:07 self-knowledge man the self-knowledge stuff that step puts out is great

01:22:15 well why are you the way you are i have no idea

01:22:18 do you know what i mean like it's interesting to me it's kind of a disconnect right yes

01:22:22 i'm feeling sad now

01:22:28 you're feeling sorry what

01:22:34 right well no it's good you're only 24 i mean it'd be a lot worse to figure that stuff out at 34 or

01:22:39 44 and i've even had people at 54 call in without knowing this stuff right so you're young enough to

01:22:45 sort it out i just gotta sit down and write down

01:22:50 i know you recommended uh talk therapy to me previously uh and i never really did that

01:23:02 i never really did that never did there's no really and again i'm not nobody has to do anything

01:23:11 i recommend of course but why not never got to it procrastination i would say is the answer for that

01:23:18 one right okay and then so if you do keep procrastinating what what does your life look

01:23:28 like in six years when you're 30 probably the same except more lonely

01:23:36 right right so is it fair to say that i mean do you have much social contact you

01:23:46 chat with people much at all recently it's been a whole lot better but

01:23:52 it's on and off i've been going to meetups and do you okay and do you speak with your

01:24:01 family fortune do you do you have a relationship with mom and dad i would like to defu it's

01:24:08 i just haven't yet uh they i speak to them when they speak to me but otherwise

01:24:13 i don't like they'll call me every now and then but it's really not that often

01:24:22 stop by my house

01:24:22 right

01:24:26 so i get that you're angry

01:24:36 and frustrated how do you feel a little trapped and hopeless yeah

01:24:46 yeah

01:24:46 i think frustration is probably pretty high on that list right

01:24:57 um

01:25:01 that and maybe hopelessness

01:25:10 right so just so you understand so when you called me up and misquoted me

01:25:15 you were trying to provoke in me the feelings that you weren't experiencing yourself

01:25:19 right that's called passive aggression and again i'm it's not a criticism

01:25:23 and i'm just sort of pointing out the mechanics right so you misquote me

01:25:30 and that's because you're feeling angry and frustrated

01:25:39 i assume that people misquote you your parents misquote you they remember things differently

01:25:44 they don't listen right so and the other thing of course is that if you're a long-time listener

01:25:49 and you're calling up with no self-knowledge that's anger towards me as well just so you

01:25:56 understand right because i don't want you to feel helpless right because i know that you probably

01:26:00 feel kind of helpless and and weak and and so on right but do you know what you're doing when you

01:26:06 call up sounding kind of weak and helpless and then misquoting me and then say you've

01:26:09 been listening for a while it's frustrating for you

01:26:13 well you're discrediting philosophy

01:26:18 because i've been listening for so long you're like a fat guy you're like a fat guy you know

01:26:25 you're like a fat guy coming up and saying hey man you wrote this great book on dieting i've

01:26:31 been following your dieting book for years and you're a fat guy so what are you doing well you're

01:26:36 trying to discredit the diet right and when you call up and say well i'm really concerned

01:26:44 about women's history when you haven't had a date in seven years that shows a lack of self-knowledge

01:26:52 that means you're trapped between you're mad at your parents and you're mad at me

01:26:59 and i i understand that i i'm not criticizing you for that i'm not blaming you for any of that

01:27:04 but calling up with this lack of self-knowledge uh asking me for feedback on something that is

01:27:14 not an issue in your life you don't have a whole bunch of women you're like well i want to choose

01:27:18 i want to choose the woman with the with the best history right right that's not even a thing in

01:27:23 your life you don't have anyone to choose from right yeah how do i filter women to make sure

01:27:31 i get the ones with the best history and i haven't had a date in seven years

01:27:35 and again i'm not trying to put you down or i'm just trying to be really blunt here right

01:27:51 and why would you i mean you don't take my advice anyway either in terms of general

01:27:55 self-knowledge or in terms of go to therapy so you don't take my advice so why are you

01:27:59 calling me for advice and again i know this sounds hostile i don't mean it that way i'm

01:28:03 genuinely curious right i mean if you haven't listened to the hundreds of shows you may have

01:28:10 listened to on self-knowledge and you haven't taken any advice to go to talk therapy why are

01:28:15 you calling me for advice is it because i'm trying to

01:28:27 make you get that feeling of helplessness that i have well and the audience too right

01:28:39 because you're not emailing me it's a public forum right right

01:28:47 i just think every time i think of trying to do something i

01:29:02 make up a whole lot of excuses for myself

01:29:08 sure i get that and that's another excuse isn't it

01:29:11 well people like to think that an explanation is is the answer right

01:29:20 it's it's so like if you're overweight you say well the explanation is that i snack at night

01:29:30 on sugar right oh that's why i'm overweight because i drink soda right drink pop that's

01:29:36 why i'm overweight okay is that the solution no no i mean that's a reason but the solution is what

01:29:47 stop drinking soda stop drinking pop right right

01:29:53 but you're you're not even yet at the place where you're trying to find the reasons as to why you

01:29:59 are the way you are right and again no criticism i'm i'm enthusiastic for you to get a great life

01:30:05 i really am but you're calling me up to avoid your problems well but you know how do i my my

01:30:16 my potential partner's history is really important to me right that's not even close to your problem

01:30:21 so you're calling me up to avoid your problems and i don't like that it's probably why

01:30:26 i was mildly annoyed at the beginning right yeah

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01:30:39 and i don't want you to use the community in that way it's not really great or beneficial or

01:30:45 helpful for you to have a public conversation with a change agent in order to avoid changing

01:30:53 your life right

01:30:54 and again i know that so many times people are like mad and hostile and how dare you i'm not

01:31:03 i don't mean any of that i don't mean any of that i mean i'm obviously as i'm always

01:31:09 trying to be committed to your very best and potential self right thank you

01:31:16 so what is the problem that you want to ask me about that you're avoiding

01:31:28 by talking about potential dates history

01:31:31 oh this is something i know i'm sure

01:31:40 i'm sorry i want to say i don't know but

01:31:47 no that's fine listen i'm i'm fine with you not knowing i'm not you know i'm not going to try and

01:31:54 pull something out of you and i certainly don't want you to make anything up so why did you call

01:32:00 if you don't know what you want to ask and again i'm not saying you shouldn't call

01:32:05 why are you calling if you don't know what your problems are

01:32:11 what i wanted to ask was about the dating history

01:32:18 i'm sorry i'm not sure i understand the question yes but why because that no that's not even

01:32:23 close to your biggest problem right you don't have any dates you don't have any potential

01:32:29 dates you have never dated as an adult so your potential dates potential dating history

01:32:38 is not even close to to the top 100 of your issues right

01:32:48 why did you call now you could have been like well steph wants someone to call i guess i have

01:32:54 this question you could have been trying to please me because you know i was asking for calls i mean

01:32:59 it could be you could be being nice in that sense in a way because i mean i'm not you know there's

01:33:03 nothing negative in what you're doing i'm just curious no i usually don't take part of the

01:33:09 live streams i joined today just because of that okay that's not it all right

01:33:18 what's and you don't have to have an answer i'm just saying that it's important to know

01:33:30 why you're doing things right because here's the thing too so you misquote me and then you claim

01:33:38 that you had no intention and there was gas lighting and fogging and all this kind of stuff

01:33:42 right do you think that's attractive in someone it's really not

01:33:47 what's come into mind it's really not is i want like a kick in the butt

01:33:57 okay good so you called me because i'm like one of the few people who

01:34:04 is going to give you a benevolent kick in the butt right

01:34:08 good okay so this is your kick in the butt

01:34:10 get your shit together and get your life started yeah stop being so scared of girls

01:34:20 my god you wouldn't even be here to be scared of girls if

01:34:25 every one of your forefathers was too scared of girls to have a date

01:34:35 stop assuming that all females are abusive

01:34:38 because that's an insult and that lets your mom win and it's an insult to girls

01:34:43 work on your virtue to the point

01:34:51 work on your virtue and your quality to the point where if a woman rejects you it's her loss

01:35:03 i mean believe it or not ladies and gentlemen i've had women who've rejected me over the course of my

01:35:08 life like believe it or not i've been heartbroken i've been rejected i've been cast aside i've been

01:35:17 stepped over over the course of my life by women right how did you in fact some of the women were

01:35:25 in charge of social media companies where i had my life's work put right wasn't it a woman who

01:35:33 was in charge of youtube right so yes i have been rejected and have my life's work eviscerated

01:35:40 by females right now i'm a great husband i'm a great dad i'm a decent provider

01:35:53 i have lots of positive attributes and skills

01:36:00 so if you have a great work of art and people don't want it it's because they don't know what

01:36:04 great art is it's a shame that they don't know what great art is so yes the people

01:36:09 who've rejected me why do they reject me because they can't see quality

01:36:13 but you don't have the quality yet i'm sure you can but you don't have the quality yet

01:36:21 that has you go up to women and if they reject you say yeah i'm sorry that you don't see quality

01:36:25 i guess you can go back to your motorcycle guys or your drug guys or your drinking guys or your

01:36:30 pretty boys who won't commit and right i'm sorry it's really tragic like believe it or not damn i

01:36:36 can't and i can't believe i'm saying this believe it or not there are people out there in the world

01:36:41 who are not listening to this show there are people out in the world who never listen to this show

01:36:45 i'm sorry that they can't see quality i really am i think it's a real shame this is the best show

01:36:51 in the world bar none and there's not even a close second this is the best show in the world

01:36:56 there are people out there who don't listen and they've you heard of me in 2015 2016 and whatever

01:37:01 that's fine you didn't start listening until 2021 and now you're listening but not doing

01:37:06 so you get a dim sense of quality but you're using it to procrastinate i'm gonna listen

01:37:13 to philosophy that way i don't have to do philosophy i'm gonna be entertained by philosophy

01:37:18 so i don't have to enact philosophy i'm gonna observe so i don't have to do i'm gonna look

01:37:24 so i don't have to act i'm gonna listen so i don't have to say or speak the truth

01:37:30 people who don't listen and i think to all the people who don't listen

01:37:35 to this show i'm like i'm sorry that you can't see the quality i really am i think it's very

01:37:40 very sad that people can't see the quality i'm continually astounded by the quality of what

01:37:46 we're able to do both as me as an individual and us collectively i'm really constantly astounded

01:37:52 and impressed by the quality of what we're doing here

01:37:55 you know like uh tim was saying about my speech as the black single mother to her woke daughter

01:38:05 it's like yeah that could have come out of a novel or a movie and it was right off the top

01:38:08 of your head i'm like yeah that was really good you know the whole the stuff i was doing earlier

01:38:13 in this show about the bonding and the abstract values and and all of that and i mean incredible

01:38:19 amazing i mean how how much that pops the focus of the world into clarity right and this is you know

01:38:25 i'm 43 years into philosophy 42 years into philosophy i'm still coming up with new stuff

01:38:32 great stuff useful stuff even this conversation i think is different for people

01:38:35 so i'm really sorry that people can't see the quality of what's going on here i think it's

01:38:43 it's it's sad because not like people aren't consuming a lot of internet media no they'd

01:38:49 rather watch chunk yogurt yell at tim pool i guess right and you know tim's fine or whatever

01:38:53 right but it's not what we're doing here so you work on your quality to the point

01:39:04 where you're sorry for the people who don't see who you are

01:39:13 and then you're not afraid of rejection like yes there are people who don't listen to the show

01:39:19 there are people who dip in and never listen again and that's really sad because it's the

01:39:24 best show there is and probably the best show there ever will be at least that's my standard

01:39:28 like people can say oh that's grandiose or whatever well that's my standard

01:39:31 my standard is to be the best show in the history of the world because let's say i do achieve some

01:39:39 fantastic stuff which i know i have but let's say i achieve all this fantastic stuff everything

01:39:43 after that will have this as an example so it will never be as good will never be as good

01:39:49 you know the guy who punches through the wall the second guy goes through the wall there's

01:39:55 already a hole from the first guy he doesn't have to be as strong so i'm just telling you my goal

01:40:00 my aim and what i what what am i standard is to be the best show in human history best conversation

01:40:05 in human history so yeah there are people who don't listen there are people are like oh that's

01:40:10 terrible you see these comments he's like oh why would you take advice from this terrible guy but

01:40:15 look i'm really sorry that people can't see quality i mean it's sad it's sad for me

01:40:18 that people can't see quality you know there are people who listen to the most beautiful

01:40:23 classical music and they're like well that's just noise to me and then they i don't know

01:40:27 pump up ll cool j or something like that it's like look i'm really sorry that you can't like

01:40:32 it's really sad that you can't see quality right there are some people who would prefer a big mac

01:40:39 to some beautiful french cuisine it's like yeah i'm sorry that you can't see quality

01:40:42 we've all known women or men who choose bad partners rather than good partners i mean i

01:40:51 just believe it or not i read britney spears autobiography

01:40:55 well okay but she's she's a cultural icon she's had a huge impact on the world and i'm curious

01:41:06 what her life is like it's a very different kind of unusual life and boy oh boy i'll do a whole

01:41:13 review of this book but talk about simon the boxer man she was terrified of being under the control

01:41:19 of her abusive father and where did she end up with in a 13-year conceivership under the control

01:41:24 of her abusive father oh my god that's a repetition compulsion almost beyond words

01:41:29 and marlon brando was the same way his father was completely irresponsible and terrible at

01:41:35 business so marlon brando is hey like you manage my millions of dollars and invest in stuff that's

01:41:39 going to go bankrupt that's why he had to keep doing these shitty movies throughout the 60s

01:41:44 because his father kept blowing all his money on stupid investments so you're scared of women

01:41:57 because right now they're right right now are you of a high enough quality

01:42:06 do you have enough to offer that a high quality woman will run to you no

01:42:10 you're not scared that women will reject you you're scared they're right

01:42:17 yeah to reject you am i wrong no

01:42:23 can you stand in front of a quality woman and say

01:42:29 you'll be you should choose me over everyone else a woman who's got options a woman who's

01:42:37 got choices a woman who's attractive who's funny who's good-natured who's intelligent

01:42:42 who's well-read who's curious who's virtuous can you stand in front of that woman and say

01:42:47 well of course you should pick me

01:42:49 your life will be immeasurably improved by being with me can you say that no

01:42:58 right you're not scared of women you're scared that they're right in not wanting you

01:43:10 and there's only one solution to that right

01:43:12 fixing myself

01:43:16 yeah improve yourself to the point where you can stand in front of a quality woman and say well of

01:43:22 course you should choose me in the same way my wife stood in front of me and said well of course

01:43:28 you should choose me and she was right and i was right and it's been great

01:43:31 if men say i'm afraid of rejection and that's not even close to true there's no man out there who's

01:43:38 afraid of rejection because you can always get some woman to go out with you right you just have

01:43:43 to keep going lower and lower and lower until you find some woman to go out with you right am i wrong

01:43:48 no no you're not afraid of rejection by women you're afraid of rejection by quality women

01:44:04 because that really stings right then it's like well i'm not quality enough to attract and keep

01:44:12 and woo and wed a quality woman

01:44:19 again if i'm off the mark

01:44:30 tell me but you sound kind of down on yourself and you don't sound like you feel like you have

01:44:37 much to offer is that fair to say i feel like i have a lot but i'm not using my potential

01:44:44 okay so tell me what you have to offer a quality woman

01:44:51 and i'm not i know that sounds skeptical i'm happy to hear i'm perfectly happy to hear

01:45:00 i think um well financial stability to begin with and then i have well

01:45:09 philosophy so i have ethics and morals

01:45:13 and

01:45:16 uh

01:45:21 i forget i don't know how to phrase it uh just truth

01:45:28 but

01:45:28 yeah that's what i can think of

01:45:38 okay would you like to hear the skeptical case that i just uh yes

01:45:45 okay so the skeptical case is okay so you've got some money well of course a woman can get

01:45:53 money from the state or she can get money from her own career so that's not a huge plus i mean

01:45:58 it's nice if if i mean she wants to have kids and all of that if you're a good owner truth

01:46:02 you don't even know why you called me you called me with a total misquote yeah i saw that covered

01:46:07 and then you gaslit me about all of that and then you you say i have philosophy but you're not doing

01:46:12 any philosophy and this is great news because if you have all of these wonderful things but women

01:46:22 don't choose you then women are just unable to see quality and they're bad right yeah

01:46:31 right because you understand the mcdow thing has a lot i'm not saying you make that the mcdow thing

01:46:36 has a lot to do with men who don't have a lot to offer women saying well women just can't see

01:46:39 quality it's like no they can you think we've evolved to be the top of the food chain because

01:46:44 women have no idea what quality is women can see quality they just can't see it in you oh well

01:46:48 that's because women are just trashy and shallow and gynocentric and hypergamy and and true foe's

01:46:55 law and right but it's like well maybe just maybe maybe women can't see quality and that ain't you

01:47:04 yet so rather than say how can i improve so that a woman of quality will really want me

01:47:10 they say well women can't see quality and women are bad and women are trashy and blah blah blah

01:47:14 right right so are you a direct and honest person

01:47:20 no i and you don't even know why you are the way you are which again at 24 i understand i'm not i'm

01:47:31 not trying to nag on you or bag on you or anything like that but if you think you have philosophy

01:47:38 and you're direct and honest when you open up with me with a misquote and then a gaslight

01:47:43 that's not direct and honest

01:47:45 and a quality person isn't going to want to spend the rest of her life

01:47:51 trying to correct your manipulations and falsifications

01:47:55 and the business of a young man is to date girls right am i wrong no

01:48:03 yeah the business of a young man is to date girls why do we get jobs to date girls why do we buy

01:48:10 cars to date girls why do we dress up to date girls why do we have hair gel to date girls right

01:48:15 the business of a young man is to date girls

01:48:17 and you're not doing that and you don't even know why

01:48:26 so that's good news because if you're doing everything perfectly

01:48:36 i'm confident direct honest virtuous i exercise i've got a good job i i like talking to women

01:48:41 but women just keep rejecting me then then you'd have a big problem right

01:48:44 so it's really good news like i use this analogy in my peaceful parenting book where

01:48:54 i say if you're gaining weight and it's because you're eating a thousand extra calories a day

01:49:03 a thousand extra calories a day that's good news because it means you know how to solve the problem

01:49:09 if however you're only eating 1500 calories a day or 1200 calories a day

01:49:15 and you're gaining weight like crazy that means you have a serious medical problem right

01:49:19 if you're doing everything right but everything's going wrong that's a total disaster

01:49:25 if you're not doing everything right and things are going wrong that's fantastic news

01:49:31 does that make sense

01:49:32 i mean you know the way that you communicate it's very monotone feel on the other side

01:49:44 very monotone very hopeless very negative very despairing right

01:49:51 right and this is why when you how do i pick the right girl with the right history out of all of

01:50:00 the girls that i have chasing me how do i i'm gonna come on man are you kidding me

01:50:06 you've got to be kidding me okay i need to have more pep in my voice

01:50:13 well i mean that's annoying too do you know why

01:50:22 because that's the surface correction and i'm about root problems right

01:50:26 more pep in your voice wouldn't hurt but you got to figure out

01:50:39 why are you presenting yourself with this dull negative empty style

01:50:54 who are you trying to keep away by being dull negative monotone guy

01:50:59 who does it serve does it serve you to be that empty in your communication style

01:51:07 is that feels like serving you well i'm trying to keep everyone away

01:51:11 yes now does it benefit you to keep everyone away no

01:51:21 so who does it benefit that you're alone who does it benefit that you drive people away with your

01:51:27 mosquito tinnitus monotone tone my parents

01:51:31 that's right of course it does because if you are around healthy normal positive people

01:51:39 and they look at your parents what do they say

01:51:44 they're gonna say oh wow that's not someone i'd want to be around

01:51:50 right girlfriend wouldn't want them as parents-in-law girlfriend wife wouldn't

01:52:00 want them raising your kids and also because they kind of crush the life out of you i assume

01:52:05 every time they're around she loses everything she finds appealing about her mate

01:52:13 i mean this is a fundamental question i had to ask myself am i more attractive when i'm with my mom

01:52:18 and what was the answer

01:52:23 no no no not at all right and i'm like sorry if you make me less attractive

01:52:37 i'll try and fix that if i can't fix that bye-bye

01:52:41 does that make sense you can't have people around you who make you less attractive yeah

01:52:50 you can't have people around you who drag you down

01:53:03 you can't have people around you who you have to appease with emptiness and depression

01:53:10 i mean you can but it's not much of a life is it no

01:53:37 i mean be appealing be funny take risks be animated why not i mean what's the option to

01:53:43 just go through life like a half-crushed bug murmuring out of your armpit that's kind of what

01:53:48 it feels like i know i listen i've been there i've been there i've been dealing with you don't think

01:53:55 i've wanted to stifle my light from time to time because that light sometimes seems to be a great

01:54:00 place to draw in an air strike from low orbit oh just be less charismatic oh just be less funny

01:54:06 oh just be less animated they'll leave you alone right i understand i understand

01:54:12 because you're asking people to accept you when you reject yourself

01:54:25 you're asking for someone to be attracted to you

01:54:33 when you don't find yourself that appealing does that make sense

01:54:37 yeah so someone meets you right they don't know you from adam right they don't know you at all

01:54:46 they don't know you're a blank slate they don't know you right but they got to judge you of course

01:54:49 they have to judge you just you have to judge people because that was your first question right

01:54:54 so people don't know you right now when i talk to you i don't know you i mean you say we've talked

01:55:00 before of course i'm sure that's right but you're just a guy i let on the show right it's fine i

01:55:05 don't know you right so then when you kind of talk like this and don't really have much like no energy

01:55:12 right so i don't know you but you know you right and what are you telling me about yourself

01:55:16 that i talk like this and have no energy

01:55:21 well that you don't find yourself interesting at all

01:55:27 you don't enjoy your own company you don't enjoy your own thoughts and you don't care enough about

01:55:32 me to not be a monotone on an audio only show

01:55:37 or to accurately quote me or to take ownership when you don't accurately quote me

01:55:46 so what are you communicating you're communicating

01:55:56 that you're kind of in here for some reason that doesn't make any particular sense and

01:56:01 you're misquoting me which you know is annoying and then you won't take ownership of it

01:56:05 and then you monotone right do you enjoy your own company do you enjoy the activity of your own mind

01:56:15 how so

01:56:24 like what i think about well i mean okay so i mean what do you do you enjoy the thoughts that

01:56:30 you have do you like so this this morning i woke up um and i wanted to get a little bit more sleep

01:56:36 i woke up and but but this idea about bonding and abstractions and virtues was just rolling around

01:56:46 in my brain and it was i'm just i just lay there thinking about this and i knew i had a show today

01:56:52 right so later thinking about this thought this idea right now occasionally oh sometimes i can

01:56:56 worry about this or that as you know as everyone happens but the operations of my own brain are

01:57:01 fascinating to me i really like my own thoughts i find them engaging and interesting and i'm

01:57:07 enthusiastic about sharing them i like my brain i like my brain i like i love being in my brain

01:57:12 i love what it does i love what we do together and i enjoy myself if that makes sense

01:57:21 are you enthusiastic about being who you are i feel like there isn't that much that goes on in

01:57:30 my brain it's just very lost same old same old right

01:57:38 right right same old same old which you prefer because it would be to the negative of your

01:57:49 parents to break out of the rut right which is why you haven't gone to therapy right yeah which is

01:57:54 why you call me up when i talk about how ridiculous theoretical ethical issues are you call me up

01:58:00 about how to vet a girlfriend when you've never dated as an adult right i mean it's kind of funny

01:58:05 when you think about it right right abstract virtues and values are a real distraction from

01:58:12 a lack of bonding well steph if i you know i haven't dated as an adult but how am i going

01:58:16 to vet all of these women

01:58:26 now if nothing was going on in your brain really you wouldn't be listening to the show and you

01:58:38 wouldn't be calling in so there's stuff that's going on in your brain it's just inconvenient

01:58:42 to the people who raised you see here's the thing man if you're not loved and the if you're not

01:58:50 loved growing up the only way to end up loving yourself is to say the fuck you to the people

01:58:54 who didn't see your quality self-respect comes after anger at all the people who disrespected

01:59:03 you and most people are too frightened to go through the angry phase because they feel like

01:59:07 it's going crazy or they're going to go lunatic or too aggressive so all the people who didn't

01:59:13 respect me when i was growing up and who didn't love me at growing up well fuck them they were

01:59:16 wrong i'm an eminently worthy of respect and i'm eminently worthy of love but you've got to go

01:59:23 through that fuck you to the people who don't see your quality in order to see your own quality does

01:59:28 this make sense yeah so you call me up with these giant locks on your leg saying

01:59:42 not saying steph i got these locks on my leg but saying well steph uh when i become a long

01:59:48 distance hurdler i guess i'm concerned how my knees should go over the third hurdle

02:00:04 you are interesting to yourself now if you become interesting to yourself then the people who

02:00:11 ignored you were assholes the people who were oppressed you the people who insulted you the

02:00:19 people who put you down were just wrong and assholes and you've got to go through the phase

02:00:24 if you've been disrespected over the course of your childhood you've got to go through the phase

02:00:28 of being angry because if they're right and you're not worthy of any respect or energy or love or

02:00:35 enthusiasm from anyone around you if they're right then you're just going to go through life

02:00:40 holding your own flame at bay and piss on everyone else's fire

02:00:43 but if you can get angry at being disrespected then you can end up worthy of respect does that

02:00:51 make sense yes

02:00:59 justin says wow that angry phrase fuck them they were wrong for not seeing my quality

02:01:08 that is exactly what i have experienced incredible insight thank you steph oh my gosh

02:01:12 do you think i mean i got the most incredible reviews for my novels nobody would publish them

02:01:17 i'm not a bad actor as you can hear from my audiobooks it was tough to get any any work

02:01:22 everybody recognized my brain when i was in undergraduate and graduate school nobody was

02:01:28 enthusiastic to mentor me do you think i've not gone through life with people not seeing my quality

02:01:34 now either they're right and i'm delusional in which case i'm crazy and i don't have the

02:01:40 quality i think i have or they're assholes for not being able to see quality now not everyone

02:01:48 who can't see quality is an asshole but the people whose job it is to see quality who don't see

02:01:51 quality they're frauds right not everybody right yeah

02:02:01 i don't have to be good at criticizing art unless i'm an art critic and that's my job

02:02:07 sure and it's the job of parents to find their children interesting of course it is of course it

02:02:17 is i mean i've spent most of my life prior to this show outside of the business world in the

02:02:30 business world they saw my quality because it made lots of money right my software made lots of money

02:02:36 so people saw that and people could have made lots of money off my books but they were too leftist

02:02:44 and indoctrinated and hostile to everything that i was writing and it was a whole sense of life

02:02:49 thing too i mean modern novels are horror shows of dysfunction and my novels were hymns of possibility

02:02:59 so listen i understand what it's like to have people not see your quality i really really

02:03:06 understand what that's like if it wasn't for the internet i could have gone from birth to grave and

02:03:09 i probably would have but no one outside of my immediate current family seeing my quality

02:03:14 outside of money makers and outside of the people who love me for who i am

02:03:19 but i have quality of course i mean i have the numbers if all else fails right i have

02:03:26 the numbers like a billion views and downloads by far the biggest reach of philosophy in all

02:03:32 of human history like without a doubt the biggest reach of philosophy in all of human history has

02:03:37 come out of these little vocal cords and this little face and this not so little forehead

02:03:43 right so i had to believe that i had something of value to offer when everybody was telling me the

02:03:50 exact opposite for like 30 fucking years straight well no more than that i started the show when i

02:03:55 was like 40 so you know for as long as i could remember people would not see my quality and in

02:04:01 fact were hostile to what i was doing i mean they were incredibly hostile towards me in theater

02:04:05 school they loved me at the beginning and they said oh you should forget the writing stuff you're

02:04:09 a great writer but man as acting goes you should just go straight for acting you're fantastic

02:04:14 then they found out about my politics and they just hated me

02:04:22 somebody says now you sell yourself short even without the internet you would have found a way

02:04:27 to get out to his newspaper like dave barry okay you're annoying too

02:04:32 sorry the person who's writing this don't tell me about my life of trying to get people to see

02:04:40 my quality brother don't even try don't fucking try you don't know the struggles you don't know

02:04:46 how hard i've had to work to get the world to see my quality don't tell me i sell myself short

02:04:52 don't insult me by saying that i'm selling myself short

02:04:57 oh i would have just written a humor column like dave barry

02:05:04 i'm not dave barry i'm not a fucking humorist i'm a philosopher and an artist

02:05:10 and i tried i went to theater school i made a movie i wrote 30 plays i wrote a half a dozen

02:05:20 novels i self-published i took canada's most advanced writing course i had an agent

02:05:27 oh you sell yourself short man you'd have found a way to do it

02:05:31 yes of course i mean the internet yeah i mean once i don't have gatekeepers and it's funny

02:05:41 because all the gatekeepers that are supposed to be able to see quality uh i mean i can't even tell

02:05:48 you like i can't tell you the massive insults that i as a thinker and an artist received prior to the

02:05:59 internet i uh one day i'll go into it but the amount of hostility that i receive well you see

02:06:07 the hostility that i receive from the gatekeepers at the moment right the gatekeepers in various

02:06:12 social media platforms the hostility that i receive i mean that's that's been a pattern right

02:06:16 so the fact that i've struggled myself my through and i know where the limitations are

02:06:21 and you're going to tell me about a 55 year struggle and you're going to tell me oh steph

02:06:31 you were wrong you'd have found a way oh my god man man alive see don't tell people about their

02:06:39 lives when they have deep self-knowledge without asking first this is a really fundamental thing

02:06:44 don't if you've got deep self-knowledge and other people tell you about your life without asking

02:06:49 anything they just come across as like kind of self-obsessed self-centered jerks

02:06:55 i'm just this is this is the this is the day for straight up honest feedback right

02:07:02 if i go up to someone who's got a half a century invested in the study of physics

02:07:10 and i tell them all about physics without ever asking them about their knowledge

02:07:14 well that's kind of self-centered right so when i'm telling you that there was a great risk that

02:07:24 i would have gone from birth to grave without leaving any social or artistic or philosophical

02:07:29 impact and say no no no you would have because you would have written jokes for a newspaper

02:07:32 oh come on man

02:07:40 oh my gosh oh my gosh it's wild

02:07:44 you're being petty steph again no no no you now you're telling me again i'm telling you all about

02:07:53 my struggles and all the things i've not talked about i'm giving you new information and now

02:07:57 you're just saying i'm being petty so you're doing it again right you're not asking me any questions

02:08:04 you're not saying you know maybe that was premature because you obviously have a lot of stuff

02:08:08 that's gone on tell me more nope you're like oh no now steph you're being petty

02:08:12 and that's fine listen you can you can do all of that you can i mean i i honestly i don't care i'll

02:08:23 forget about this five minutes after the show is done but i'm just saying that for you if somebody

02:08:30 expresses a great concern based upon bitter multi-decade experience and you tell the person

02:08:35 no you're wrong you're wrong about your life steph you're wrong about your life i'm telling

02:08:40 you what my life has been like and i'm 57 i've got some experience i've been doing philosophy

02:08:45 for over 40 years in the artistic world in the business world in the podcast video interview

02:08:53 live speeches world in the academic world for many years a postgraduate so i've been doing

02:08:59 philosophy for many years i have a lot of experience in the hostility that institutions

02:09:05 have towards philosophy and i'm telling you what i think would probably have happened you're like

02:09:09 no steph you're wrong because dave barry is funny i'm just telling you don't tell people about their

02:09:17 lives when they have a lot of knowledge and experience don't tell them they're wrong about

02:09:22 their lives when they have a lot of knowledge and experience and self-knowledge comment was

02:09:30 a compliment the internet is smaller than your life sorry you took it another way

02:09:35 so when so okay dt i'll play this game so when you say let me just get the right phrase here

02:09:43 i don't want to misquote you after saying to the guy misquoting right

02:09:49 so now i'm just misinterpreting it was a compliment but apparently i'm just paranoid

02:09:53 i'm just paranoid and can't handle a compliment right so you said nah you sell yourself short

02:09:58 even without the internet you'd have found a way to get out to us newspaper like dave barry

02:10:03 so you're telling me about my whole life and my multi-decade struggle to get my

02:10:09 ideas arguments and art out to the world facing constant rejection

02:10:12 decade after decade so i'm talking with a lot of experience here you say now you sell yourself

02:10:17 short so selling yourself short is not a compliment oh you don't trust yourself you'd have done better

02:10:26 than you think you're down on yourself you're too negative on your possibility that's not a

02:10:29 compliment that's saying that you sell yourself short is not a compliment it's saying that i have

02:10:34 an inaccurate view of my own life and own possibilities after decades of struggle

02:10:40 and sometimes violent rejection right i mean you know when i was going to give public speeches

02:10:48 i got bomb threats and death threats right you know that right you know that when i was out there with

02:10:52 miss southern and people attacked the stage right had to be tackled by security oh no but you sell

02:11:00 yourself short step you'd have found a way i just think it's funny i just think it's funny

02:11:07 don't people don't tell people about their lives prior to asking them so if someone says something

02:11:15 like you know i think it's a pretty genuine it's a fairly high risk that i never without the internet

02:11:23 that i never would have been able to get my ideas out to the world over the course of my life now

02:11:28 maybe after my lifetime i used to like honestly i used to have these visions of me on the internet

02:11:35 i used to have these visions of me on my deathbed saying to loved ones please just get my novels out there

02:11:42 promise me you will get my poems out there please

02:11:45 so if i'm telling you something i've got you know good self-knowledge if i'm telling you

02:11:56 my genuine deep life experience that without the internet i mean i did this for decades without

02:12:02 the internet right if i i'm telling you my deep life experience and you want to get to know someone

02:12:11 and you want to respect and honor what they're saying and i think i've earned that you say tell

02:12:17 me more you don't just blithely say oh you're totally mistaken about your entire life yeah

02:12:23 you're wrong you're just selling yourself short and just saying it's annoying it's annoying and

02:12:29 it's off-putting and that doesn't mean you shouldn't do it i'm just telling you that i'm a

02:12:32 quality person and the response of a quality person when they're telling you about a deep agony of

02:12:37 their life saying oh you're mistaken about that you would have been fine because dave barry got

02:12:42 published dave barry it's a funny guy do you think you think people threatened him with explosions

02:12:50 and murder when he gave speeches do you think do you think dave barry i mean this is pgo rock

02:12:58 i mean i remember going to see pgo rock read from one of his books and everybody loved the guy yeah

02:13:04 he came out for drinks and they laughed and he's a very good reader and a good writer um that's

02:13:10 i mean that's not you understand that i have a lot of experience with this stuff and

02:13:15 if you're going to say to me about the struggle of many decades of my life

02:13:20 oh you're just wrong you're just wrong about i'm just telling you i know i'm not wrong

02:13:26 and so you're just vain and uncurious because you're vain because you're telling me that you

02:13:31 know my life way better than i do and that i'm mistaken about something i put massive amounts

02:13:36 of thought time attention and risk into i'm just wrong you're not asking any question i'm just

02:13:42 telling you that it's not how to get to know people that's all to ask questions to be humble

02:13:47 to try to get to know someone and again you know i get this is a this chance comment i'm just saying

02:13:53 this is not relevant or it's not important to this particular live stream it is important in your life

02:14:00 that you try to find a way to stop indulging the vanity that says you can tell other people

02:14:09 about their life struggles way better than they know than themselves because that's off-putting

02:14:18 and it's vain because you don't i mean you've listened to me when i have

02:14:25 call-in shows i spend an hour hour and a half sometimes just asking questions

02:14:30 with this guy on on the call appreciate the call today i'm asking questions

02:14:37 i'm not just saying to him well you're wrong ah you're selling yourself short you're fine you're

02:14:42 good yeah it's not the way your life's not the way you think it is at all i'm asking questions

02:14:47 why because i genuinely want to get to know people i don't want to just come across as smarmy and

02:14:53 superior so my friend on the on the line will you think about talk therapy yes my excuse was that i

02:15:05 didn't i didn't have time but now i i'm making time to go places so i'm gonna well if you don't

02:15:12 have time for talk therapy which is an hour or two a week maybe you certainly don't have time to date

02:15:16 yeah in which case there's no point calling me to ask how you've had a date right yeah

02:15:23 if you've got time to date brother you've got time for therapy so all right will you keep me posted

02:15:30 about how it's going do you think uh i'm sorry i'm not answering the question yes um all right

02:15:38 but do you think uh you can do that online that's something that can be done

02:15:45 oh yeah you can just you can email me call in at freedom and i'm sorry let me know how things are

02:15:49 going and all of that i care what happens to your life i really wasn't my question can you do talk

02:15:54 therapy online oh i mean i assume you can um i'm sure that there are many people who offer that

02:16:02 i'm my therapy that wasn't really internet for that but when i was doing therapy but i'm pretty

02:16:07 sure you can okay thank you very much stephan sorry for all the trouble i caused you

02:16:14 hey it's not trouble man i i appreciate i appreciate that and you did really really

02:16:18 beautifully on the call and i i appreciate your frankness and willingness to listen i really

02:16:22 really do thank you for the call and thank you everyone for a great call sorry we didn't get

02:16:27 to matthew perry but we will do him at some point also britney spears boy we are really going to go

02:16:33 low rent celebrity although low rents no that's unfair all right so freedom and comm slash donate

02:16:39 if you're listening to this later really appreciate that have yourself a wonderful

02:16:42 sunday everyone lots of love from up here thank you everyone for the greatest conversation the

02:16:47 world has ever seen and i think ever will see take care everyone bye

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