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00:02 - Hello and welcome to National World Fit Buttock,
00:11 your nan's favorite football podcast, Ken.
00:14 Welcome back to the show.
00:16 Today is a transfer special
00:18 in which myself, Lewis Anderson,
00:21 and my guest, Martin Simpson,
00:23 will be discussing all the latest transfer rumors
00:27 surrounding Scottish premiership.
00:30 We'll kick off, I think it's appropriate
00:33 that we start off with Rangers, Martin,
00:37 given that they have already made
00:39 their first January transfer signing.
00:43 Before the windows even opened,
00:44 they brought in Fabio Silva
00:47 on loan from Wolverhampton Wanderers.
00:50 Philippe Clement, certainly keen
00:52 to get his business done early.
00:55 Of course, there are currently just a few points
00:58 behind Celtic in the title race.
01:00 That can all change depending on the Old Firm derby result.
01:04 But how important do you feel that it was for Clement
01:07 to make a real kind of early statement of intent?
01:10 - Yeah, and I mean, what a statement.
01:15 Obviously, Silva's not even come close
01:17 to hitting the ground running at Wolves,
01:19 so they were keen to get him out on loan.
01:21 But a real significant financial commitment here by Rangers
01:26 in terms of the wages that they're gonna be paying them
01:30 until the end of the season,
01:31 or what we understand the sort of level of wages
01:34 they're gonna be paying.
01:35 It certainly looks like he's immediately
01:37 the highest earner at Ibrox,
01:39 probably by some way now, you would think.
01:43 Yeah, is it a bit risky maybe
01:47 on an unproven commodity, as it were?
01:50 He's obviously got bags of talent,
01:53 no one's denying that, and you would certainly,
01:55 and yeah, I think he's gonna be
01:58 a really good signing for them.
01:59 You do wonder, with the whole Lawrence Shankland thing,
02:03 and you could go out and invest in a proven commodity,
02:07 and instead you're sort of taking a risk on a,
02:12 reputation's maybe not the right word,
02:14 but the sort of promise of how good a player
02:18 Fabio Silva actually is.
02:20 But yeah, I don't, as much as clubs in England
02:25 throw stupid money at players
02:27 and don't really need to worry about flop signings,
02:29 I don't think you spend 35 million pound
02:33 on a teenager at the time,
02:36 if he's not something a bit special.
02:40 So yeah, and I think for Rangers to get him,
02:43 there would have been quite a lot of competition,
02:46 if all wolves were looking for was a,
02:48 I mean, let's be honest, a relatively modest loan fee,
02:53 and the full paying of his wages,
02:56 which again, not insignificant wages,
02:58 but there would have been clubs across Europe
03:01 just as capable of taking that wage on board.
03:04 So you have to believe they've fought off
03:06 quite significant competition to get him.
03:08 And that's, yeah, and that's a real,
03:12 that probably says a lot,
03:14 not just about how much of a draw
03:17 going to play for Rangers is,
03:18 but how convincing Philippe Clement is
03:22 in terms of players coming to Glasgow.
03:26 - Yeah, I'm led to believe myself
03:29 that he did have quite a bit of interest
03:31 from clubs in Italy.
03:32 I know Freiburg and the Bundesliga
03:34 were one of the clubs interested,
03:36 and Genoa and Mozart were the other two in the Serie A.
03:40 So yeah, clearly a talented operator.
03:44 We know he was kind of came through the Benfica Academy
03:47 before joining Porto.
03:50 He's Porto's youngest ever player
03:53 to appear in a European competition.
03:57 It's obviously fair to say that he's kind of
04:00 had featured kind of sporadically for Wolves
04:04 since he made that move three years ago.
04:06 I think he's accumulated about 60 Premier League appearances
04:09 in the last three years.
04:11 But do you feel the fact he's decided to remain in the UK,
04:16 now we know that Clement's obviously had a big say
04:20 in this also, the new Football Director Recruitment,
04:23 Niles Koppen, who worked with Silva during his time
04:27 on loan at PSV Eindhoven.
04:30 So do you feel staying in the UK is an interesting one
04:33 because do you feel he kind of wants to prove
04:36 that he can adapt to the kind of British style of play?
04:39 I don't know about that because the Scottish Premiership
04:42 is a very different style to the English Premier Division.
04:45 I imagine more, the appeal of Rangers is probably
04:50 that he's going to go there and have a real shot
04:52 at winning trophies, like a real shot at a league title,
04:56 a national cup, and he's going to get to play
04:58 in the Europa League, which I imagine not every club
05:02 that might have been interested in signing him
05:04 could have offered that.
05:05 Like you mentioned like Freiburg in Germany
05:07 can't offer continental football to him
05:09 and that's got to be a big thing.
05:11 The sheer number of matches he's going to get to play
05:14 with Rangers and the level he's going to get to play at
05:16 and the stage he's going to get to prove himself on.
05:20 Yeah, I think being at Rangers,
05:23 it's yeah, in terms of staying in,
05:25 there's going to be more of an eye on him.
05:29 Like there will be British media outlets picking up
05:33 the big Rangers matches.
05:35 So I think he's going to be much more still at the forefront
05:38 of the attention of fans south of the border
05:42 playing for Rangers, especially old firm matches.
05:45 And like I said, Europa League football.
05:47 And I don't know, wolves are,
05:52 wolves have some absolutely terrific players.
05:55 There's no getting away from that,
05:56 but they're not Man City, they're not Liverpool.
05:59 They are a mid table Premier League team
06:03 with respect to them who in Fabio Silva's time at the club
06:07 have actually flirted with relegation
06:10 and have had a few issues.
06:12 And there's no shame in not being able to displace
06:16 some of the absolute sensational international quality players
06:21 that wolves have up front.
06:22 You look at like Wang He Chan, who's a terrific player.
06:25 Pasa Kaladzic, who Scotland fans know
06:28 from playing Austria in recent seasons.
06:31 Obviously had a lot of injury problems,
06:33 but you know, and Peter Nato just, yeah, right there.
06:38 You've got three international top quality strikers.
06:43 So not being able to break into the team ahead of them,
06:47 there's no shame in that.
06:48 And he's still a young player.
06:50 But you would think that given the promise he has,
06:53 he might have made a bit more of an impact.
06:55 So for me, there's a question mark over him,
07:00 but I'm fairly confident that he's
07:02 going to remove that question mark pretty quickly up
07:06 in Scotland.
07:07 And if he doesn't, you know, who knows where
07:09 his career goes from there.
07:10 But I would back him too.
07:13 And the interesting thing for me now
07:15 is just transitioning away from Rangers
07:18 is where this leaves Lawrence Shankland at heart.
07:21 Because I've seen a lot of comments
07:24 already about online about people wondering
07:26 why you would invest this significantly in a loan
07:31 rather than going out and getting the best striker
07:36 in Scotland at this moment in time, who
07:39 has been heavily linked with the club for the past few months
07:42 now, who is the top scorer in your domestic league,
07:45 and who is going to be available for a fee that is
07:50 within Rangers' spending remit.
07:53 Hearts aren't going to let him go cheaply.
07:56 And I think his value is probably
07:58 increased by another million this month alone,
08:01 based on just how crucial he is.
08:04 I saw Hearts play St. Marin last week, and Hearts were terrific.
08:11 The back three of rolls, Kent and Halkett,
08:16 worked really well.
08:17 That formation worked well.
08:19 They dealt with St. Marin's physicality
08:21 and St. Marin's press.
08:22 They dealt with that brilliantly.
08:24 Beningame in particular in midfield was a warrior.
08:28 But for all that good, solid play,
08:31 if they hadn't have had Shankland,
08:33 that match was ending 0-0.
08:35 Other than, I think, maybe one sort of Yutaro Oda half chance.
08:40 I don't know how many other real kind of--
08:45 there were more opportunities towards the end,
08:47 but that's because St. Marin were already 2-0 down
08:49 and had opened up a bit.
08:51 Without Shankland, Hearts, I believe,
08:55 next top goal scorer after Shankland
08:57 only has two or three goals.
08:59 So they cannot let him go cheap.
09:04 They are going to need--
09:07 if I was a Hearts fan, even with only 18 months left
09:11 in this contract, I would not be letting him go for anything
09:14 less than $5 million.
09:16 I think they just can't afford to.
09:19 I think their season will--
09:22 obviously, they could go out and get another striker.
09:24 And there's talks of Kevin Van Veen, for example.
09:27 And obviously, if they got that money for Shankland,
09:31 Van Veen's going to be on a significant wage at Groningen.
09:34 But they could probably shoulder that
09:37 for the remainder of the season.
09:40 But I just think it would be disastrous for Hearts
09:43 to lose him.
09:43 So if they are going to lose him,
09:45 it needs to be for significant money.
09:46 If they keep him past January, that's
09:48 going to be the best piece of business
09:51 they have probably done.
09:54 I would say, in recent memory, off the top of my head,
09:58 I can't think of a better piece of business,
10:01 like bringing players in or selling players
10:04 that they could do, that would be better than managing
10:06 to hold on to a player in the form of Shankland
10:11 at this moment in time.
10:13 But listen, Rangers weren't the only club
10:15 that were going to be interested in him.
10:17 Because I think there's probably going
10:20 to be fairly significant interest from south
10:24 of the border.
10:25 I'd think probably clubs at the top end of the English
10:29 Championship will be looking at him.
10:31 And $5 million, it's a significant investment
10:35 for a club in that position.
10:36 But it's not the kind of money they're
10:39 going to struggle to pull together, most teams.
10:41 Even clubs, I think, towards the bottom end of the Premier League
10:46 could be doing with a striker of his natural ability.
10:51 I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he ended up
10:55 in Serie A or the Bundesliga or something like that.
10:58 I think he's going to have a lot of interest.
11:01 And I think Hearts are potentially
11:04 going to struggle and going full circle--
11:06 struggle to keep a hold of him--
11:08 going full circle back to Rangers.
11:11 They might miss out on him.
11:12 Because if Hearts can keep him past January,
11:15 I think that's, in a weird way, that's
11:17 potentially good for Rangers as well.
11:19 Because Silva will go back to Wolves at the end of the season.
11:23 Shankland will be in the final year of his contract.
11:25 And Hearts, obviously, being the summer rather than
11:27 the middle of the season, I think
11:28 they'll be more open to striking a deal.
11:32 But additionally, deals between Scottish clubs
11:37 in the past few years have never been easily struck.
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12:07 No, no.
12:08 Yeah, it'll be an interesting one to keep a close eye out on.
12:10 I think the Van Veen point as well that you
12:13 raised earlier, I think the general consensus among Rangers
12:15 fans is he's not the type of profile
12:18 that they necessarily want at this stage.
12:21 I don't think it really excites many fans.
12:25 So personally, I'm not too sure if that
12:27 will be a move that--
12:29 If Rangers wanted Kevin Van Veen,
12:31 Rangers would have signed him before he went to Groningen.
12:33 Yes.
12:34 Yeah, exactly.
12:34 And I know we're talking about different managers,
12:36 different backroom staff, and all that.
12:38 But he was available cheap.
12:39 And if they'd wanted him, he would be cheap for them.
12:42 He would have snapped them up.
12:43 So I don't think that was ever realistic.
12:47 Perfect.
12:47 And just finally on Rangers, I think one other area
12:50 that we must discuss is the left back scenario.
12:55 We have, obviously, Borna Barisic
12:57 entering the final couple of months of his current deal,
13:00 which is due to expire in the summer.
13:02 Rydvan Nielmaz was kind of brought in
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