Disappointing day for the #Buckeyes to say the least. Ohio State falls to Michigan, 30-24. Here's our immediate postgame reaction from Ann Arbor.
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00:02 - Well, hi everybody and welcome to the big house,
00:13 which has become an awfully sad place for Ohio State fans
00:16 who have made their way out of the building today.
00:18 30 to 24, the final as Michigan beats
00:21 the Ohio State Buckeyes for the third year in a row.
00:24 Welcome to our incident analysis post-game show
00:27 on Buckeyes Now, running Gulick and Anthony Meglin with you.
00:30 And we're gonna try to tell you what we thought went wrong
00:32 for Ohio State today.
00:34 Megs, you're the former college quarterback,
00:35 so I'll give you the first word.
00:36 What stood out to you?
00:38 - Yeah, I think the easy answer right there
00:40 is the quarterback position.
00:42 You know, you think about how this game went
00:44 and really how we kind of talked about
00:46 and thought this game would go.
00:47 And it kind of went that way.
00:48 I thought there was more points scored
00:50 than I was anticipating,
00:51 but it had that back and forth feel
00:54 where possessions were limited
00:56 and you had to capitalize when you had the football.
00:58 And the one thing we weren't really accounting for
01:01 was turnovers.
01:02 And you know, you look at how the game flowed.
01:05 You know, you have that turnover
01:07 or that interception in the red area
01:09 or in the now Michigan red area
01:10 right at the beginning of the game and the missed kick.
01:13 You know, I think that one at the end is kind of,
01:14 you know, that was, you know,
01:16 guy got hit in the back and kind of floated the ball.
01:19 But those two other ones were super important
01:22 and led directly to Michigan getting points
01:24 and Ohio State taking points off the board.
01:26 - Ohio State finished game 378 yards total offense.
01:31 They threw for 271, ran for 107.
01:34 And I feel like when I think about
01:37 this team's offensive performance,
01:39 that a lot of those yards came on just a couple of drives.
01:43 Not nearly enough long sustaining, you know,
01:49 momentum soul crushing drives from Ohio State today.
01:54 I thought the biggest point of the game
01:56 came in the second half when Ohio State had,
01:59 you know, started to maybe get this thing going
02:01 a little bit in their favor.
02:04 Michigan had just scored.
02:06 Ohio State got the ball back and in 58 seconds
02:08 went three and out and Michigan drove up the field again
02:12 and was only held to a field goal.
02:13 So it was like, okay, there's still some hope here.
02:18 But it was at that point in the game
02:19 where I actually felt like I started to sense
02:21 a little bit of a difference
02:23 in the Buckeye defenders body language,
02:26 where the reality was setting in that,
02:28 hey, time's getting short.
02:30 And then obviously in the fourth quarter,
02:31 I mean, Michigan just milked the clock.
02:34 13 play, 56 yard drive that took seven minutes off the clock
02:38 again, ultimately ended in a field goal.
02:41 It didn't put the game totally out of reach.
02:43 Ohio State had a chance, but didn't make enough plays.
02:47 I mean, I know it sounds dumb,
02:48 but ultimately just didn't make enough plays.
02:51 - It's true.
02:52 And I wanna get your perspective on it
02:53 'cause you were there.
02:55 When they come out of half and pretty much just,
02:58 Ohio State pretty much just runs the ball
03:00 down Michigan's throat all the way down the field.
03:01 They had two completions that were over 12 yards,
03:04 I think Emeka had a catch and Marvin had a catch.
03:07 I could be wrong in that,
03:08 but then they just trip train 'em and Travion Henderson
03:11 just right down the field and into the end zone.
03:13 And it was like, at that point, you're like, uh-oh,
03:15 not only does Ohio State have life,
03:17 but they just found something in the run game
03:19 and they're starting to really lean on this Michigan defense.
03:22 And we talked about it,
03:23 whoever's gonna win this line of scrimmage
03:24 is gonna win the football game.
03:25 And I thought Ohio State took a really big stride
03:28 at that point.
03:29 I was wondering why they just didn't keep in it.
03:33 It felt like you could have stayed in that
03:34 and kind of that power football mindset
03:36 and try to just really grind it out towards the end.
03:39 - That was a 12-play, 75-yard drive
03:41 that took 6.08 off the clock for Ohio State.
03:44 And the last eight plays on that 12-play drive
03:48 were run plays.
03:49 I mean, it was basically a couple of passing plays,
03:51 the last of which moved the sticks,
03:54 but then it was eight straight runs.
03:55 And I think it was something like 56 total yards
03:58 in those eight plays where the Buckeyes
03:59 just paraded down the field.
04:02 And yeah, at that point,
04:04 'cause that was a game-tying drive,
04:06 it felt to me like Ohio State had a different life.
04:10 It felt like the first half,
04:12 while you were losing at halftime
04:14 and it was really frustrating,
04:16 Michigan's two touchdowns came on an interception
04:20 that you threw where you gave them the ball
04:22 at your seven-yard line
04:24 and came on a questionable touchdown.
04:28 I think the Roman Wilson touchdown in the first half
04:31 that Denzel Burke caught the ball on,
04:33 I don't know how that equates.
04:36 The fact that it was called a touchdown on the field
04:40 as I'm watching the replay in the press box
04:42 with some other media members,
04:44 I mean, I said right there,
04:45 there's no way they're going to overturn that
04:47 because they called it a touchdown on the field
04:48 and I don't think there's enough substantial evidence
04:52 to overturn that.
04:53 So I guess what I'm saying in a roundabout way here,
04:56 Ohio State was not playing that poorly in the first half.
05:00 They were losing, but they were right there.
05:02 And you kind of felt like, man, this is uncomfortable,
05:04 but you got Michigan right where you want them.
05:07 And in that third quarter,
05:08 you come out with that first drive and it feels like,
05:09 okay, hold them to a field goal,
05:11 you go score a touchdown, game's tied, game on, let's go.
05:14 And I don't really understand it.
05:16 I don't know what happened there
05:17 because the attitude just ticked up a little bit
05:22 for Michigan.
05:23 Frankly, they played like they wanted it a little bit more.
05:27 - That was the biggest thing for me was that
05:29 you and I were texting about it at halftime.
05:32 It was like, okay, you take this Michigan punch
05:34 and you get that turnover that turns them into,
05:37 you throw that interception,
05:38 they just are able to punch one in and mind you,
05:40 they needed four downs to get five yards.
05:42 So it was like, you didn't just give up
05:44 and give up an easy score.
05:46 You almost hold them out.
05:47 And then you have that play at the end.
05:49 Yes, it could have gone either way.
05:50 It was just a crazy bang, bang play.
05:52 And so then you're down 14, 10 and they come out,
05:55 they have the ball, they have all the momentum.
05:56 You hold them to three
05:57 and then you just run it right down their throat
05:59 and you're tied and you're like, holy cow,
06:01 this game feels like Ohio State
06:02 should be up a bunch of points.
06:04 They're tied and you have new life.
06:06 And it was just weird that they just kind of,
06:08 I don't know, the defense didn't really respond,
06:09 but I just don't know why they didn't just stick
06:12 with that just hard nose power football
06:15 that was kind of starting to work for them.
06:17 - I'll tell you what, when I walk away from this game
06:20 and you look at the stats and you say,
06:22 hey, Michigan was three for 12 on third down.
06:26 How do you lose?
06:28 Well, you lose two ways.
06:30 One, they were aggressive.
06:32 They were three for three on fourth downs,
06:34 several of which came in critical moments
06:36 where they just decided, you know what,
06:39 we're going to play to win.
06:41 And Ryan Day was asked probably three or four different ways
06:44 in the post-game press conference
06:45 about the end of the first half,
06:46 where he decided to try to kick the field goal.
06:49 He was clear in his explanation of,
06:53 I know it was fourth and two, I know I had a timeout,
06:56 I know I could have thrown it over the middle
06:57 and try to pick up a first down and then call timeout
07:00 and try to make something happen of it or whatever.
07:03 He basically just said, I wanted to kick a field goal.
07:06 I wanted to take points into the halftime
07:07 and try to make it a 14-13 game.
07:10 Because ultimately in a game like this,
07:12 yeah, you got to find a way to get in the end zone.
07:15 But when you're late in the half,
07:17 or when you feel like your offense is stalling,
07:21 you can't leave points on the field in general.
07:24 And he defended himself saying,
07:27 if it was fourth and two, we throw it in completion,
07:28 we get no points.
07:29 And ultimately he had no points anyways,
07:31 but it was a 52-yard field goal.
07:33 That is unquestionably going to be
07:35 one of the most highly discussed parts of this game.
07:40 - Yeah, no question.
07:42 And that's such a, it's a tough situation.
07:44 It honestly is.
07:45 I know everyone at home and on their couch are like,
07:48 oh my gosh, run the play and do this, do that.
07:49 Well, the clock's ticking.
07:51 You need to get a play in quick.
07:52 So it's not like you can scheme up the right play.
07:55 The clock was ticking at the time.
07:56 You only have one timeout left.
07:57 And that's a really hard situation
07:59 that you practice a lot and you try to prepare
08:02 for every situation in the book
08:04 and you get in one right at the end of that half there
08:06 where he's going to be kicking himself for it,
08:08 no pun intended,
08:09 but going to be kicking himself for it
08:11 because you come up empty on an opportunity.
08:14 I think if you could have tempoed into something,
08:16 try to get the first down and move the ball up
08:18 a little bit further to make an easier kick.
08:20 That's one hindsight's always 20/20,
08:22 but that was a tough deal.
08:23 That was a tough situation in that one.
08:25 - So Michigan threw it for 182 and they ran it for 156.
08:28 It's 338 yards total offense.
08:31 If you had told me that pregame,
08:33 probably would have liked my chances
08:34 if I'm an Ohio State fan.
08:36 Those are not gaudy numbers.
08:38 They're reasonably productive, but they're not crazy.
08:41 You know, I think about the game changing moments.
08:47 Donovan Edwards throwing a pretty good ball
08:50 on a little trick play.
08:52 You know, Michigan's decisions to try on fourth and short
08:57 and converting successfully all three times.
09:00 They outpossessed Ohio State in critical moments.
09:03 They bled the clock.
09:05 It felt like the perfect storm.
09:06 I am not going to sit here and tell you
09:08 that I think Ohio State got jobbed or anything like that.
09:12 I walk away from this game going,
09:16 gosh, that's a tough loss for the Bucs
09:19 because I know Michigan won the game.
09:23 They're the better team.
09:24 You're going to have a hard time convincing me
09:27 that that roster top to bottom is still better
09:30 than Ohio State's top to bottom.
09:32 I felt like Ohio State controlled the line of scrimmage
09:35 for a chunk of the game.
09:37 They just ultimately didn't win on the scoreboard.
09:39 And so Michigan wins three in a row
09:41 and now they're going to go play Iowa
09:42 who they'll probably beat by 20, at least.
09:45 - And I'll tell you what too,
09:46 you know, what was really impressive, you know,
09:48 from the Ohio State team and something that, you know,
09:50 continually kept catching the eye of people watching at home
09:53 is the play of the defensive line.
09:54 You talked about it, you know, this morning.
09:56 I thought Mike Hall and Ty Leake-Williams
09:57 were like big, big time issues inside.
10:00 And if you watch back, Michigan did struggle
10:02 to run the ball inside the tackle, like inside the guards.
10:05 Like they're flat out nothing.
10:06 They couldn't do it.
10:07 - Ty Leake-Williams was throwing offensive linemen around.
10:10 - It was insane.
10:10 And he was causing havoc and, you know,
10:12 they were, they had a sack.
10:14 Mike Hall had a huge sack.
10:15 Like, you know, these guys were playing really, really well.
10:17 And it's just like, doesn't, it just doesn't make sense.
10:20 And it's like, oh my gosh, you play that game 10 times.
10:23 You know, that's Ohio State wins five, Michigan wins five.
10:25 Like that's, it's two feels like very evenly matched teams.
10:29 And really what it came down to was one team made two mistakes
10:32 and the other team didn't make any.
10:34 That's what it, in my opinion.
10:35 - I was just going to say it, you know,
10:36 the reality is the Buckeyes for the first time all year,
10:41 I have defended Kyle McCourt all year
10:45 and I still think he played okay.
10:47 He didn't play, he didn't play good enough today.
10:48 He made, he made two critical mistakes
10:53 in really, really bad moments.
10:56 And ultimately, and I'm not saying like
10:57 that's the only reason Ohio State lost,
10:59 but we're talking about a game, post game,
11:02 that had the feeling we thought pregame,
11:04 that it literally was two extremely talented,
11:08 equally matched, talented teams,
11:11 where this game would come down to one or two plays.
11:13 Ohio State threw two interceptions
11:17 and Michigan never turned it over.
11:19 Michigan scored every time they had the ball
11:21 in the second half.
11:22 It, it, it just wasn't quite good enough for the Bucs.
11:27 - The unfortunate part was, and it was,
11:30 it was tough to watch Kyle's press conference
11:32 because, you know, just from my personal experience,
11:34 I've been there and it's tough
11:36 because he's got a lot,
11:38 the weight's going to fall on him at the end of the day.
11:39 Like, you know, and that's what it is.
11:41 And that's what you sign up for
11:42 as a quarterback of Ohio State.
11:44 But you know, what people don't want to hear
11:46 is going to be what I'm going to say next
11:47 is he didn't play horrible.
11:48 Like 18 to 30. - No, he didn't.
11:50 - It's not, it's not great.
11:51 And he, and he threw the ball around,
11:52 but I'll tell you what, in that middle stretch of the game,
11:55 he played, he was dead nuts on him.
11:56 He was, he was nails.
11:57 He was exactly what you needed
11:58 and he was keeping Ohio State in it.
12:00 However, what you can't do
12:02 is not even the interception early, obviously that's it,
12:04 but his start early was bad.
12:06 He just looked really shaky.
12:08 There's a couple plays.
12:09 I'm thinking of, I'm thinking of the third down
12:11 when I think Ohio State kicks a field goal
12:13 right at the, there was first, first points of the game.
12:15 He throws it into the flat to Julian Fleming.
12:17 Well, they had just a little concept up
12:19 where if the corner takes, it takes the flat away,
12:21 you throw the corner, corner route over top of him
12:23 and he just misses it.
12:24 It was just, he wasn't seeing it great early
12:26 and you can't afford to start slow in games like this
12:30 because that's what comes back to bite you.
12:32 You basically wasted the whole first quarter
12:33 because Kyle just wasn't getting his,
12:35 getting the tires rolling, you know,
12:37 and it was just, it was tough to watch, you know,
12:39 and you feel for the kid 'cause he didn't play horrible
12:41 and everyone's gonna say he did, but he didn't.
12:43 - And I wholeheartedly agree.
12:45 I mean, it's, if you're objective about it,
12:48 Kyle made some unbelievable throws in this game.
12:53 There were a handful of throws that,
12:55 whether you were a fan or an uninterested third party,
12:58 you watched and you went, whoa.
13:00 Marvin Harrison Jr.'s, what was it?
13:03 44 yard or 34 yard? - 46, yep.
13:05 - 46 yard catch where his left arm
13:09 was pinned against his body.
13:11 He caught it one-handed falling to the ground
13:13 with PI thrown.
13:16 I am trying to think of a better catch
13:18 that Marv has made in three years.
13:20 That was unbelievable on his part,
13:23 but it was also a perfect pass.
13:25 There were, go ahead.
13:27 - I don't wanna cut you off
13:28 'cause I know you're rolling right now,
13:29 but also too, you'll see on the replay,
13:31 Kyle got smoked.
13:32 I mean, he was staring down the barrel of a gun
13:34 and got smoked and delivered that ball.
13:36 All right, continue.
13:37 - No, I mean, he made a couple of really good throws
13:39 to Cade Stover.
13:40 He made some good throws to Mekig Buka.
13:42 I mean, just, I don't wanna say that Ohio State fans
13:48 should be pinning Kyle to the wall
13:50 because I don't think that's totally fair.
13:53 I can see plenty of the comments that are coming in here
13:55 that Kyle sucks and this, that, the other.
13:58 I don't agree with that.
14:00 I think he made two really bad mistakes
14:03 and they ultimately cost him the game.
14:05 But I mean, look what he did against Notre Dame.
14:09 He doesn't suck.
14:10 He's not a terrible quarterback.
14:12 Ohio State doesn't have a glaring quarterback problem,
14:17 but that's gonna be the narrative coming out of this game
14:19 because ultimately the Buckeyes turned it over twice
14:23 and they turned it over in really critical moments.
14:27 I really, I don't understand why he forced that
14:32 at the end of the game.
14:33 Throw it at somebody's feet, check it down,
14:35 incomplete pass, doesn't matter.
14:37 He just pressed. - The replay of it.
14:40 Yeah, the replay of it too.
14:42 Even if he didn't get hit,
14:43 like there was a good chance it was gonna get picked
14:45 'cause it's more Rod Moore who was driving on it,
14:47 who ended up making the pick,
14:48 was driving on the play anyway.
14:50 It potentially was gonna get intercepted regardless,
14:52 but that's just a tough one, man.
14:54 And you know what the amazing part is?
14:56 Is like all of this stuff happened
14:58 and Ohio State's offense comes out onto the field
15:00 with 60 seconds left, down six points,
15:03 gotta go 75 yards and they had the chance.
15:06 With all of this,
15:07 all of this could be a totally different conversation
15:09 if that drive goes a little bit differently.
15:11 And to their credit, even to Kyle's credit too,
15:14 two big, huge completions, right?
15:15 Find, it felt like Gus Johnson,
15:18 I don't know if you could hear the broadcast,
15:19 but he was like, "Please throw it to Marvin Harrison."
15:22 Like he was like saying that and he did.
15:24 And Marvin comes up with a big play
15:25 and then they come back to Julian.
15:27 Julian gets the catch fumble
15:29 and Emeka alertly covers it up
15:33 and then the next play's the interception.
15:34 But you know, it's tough because he wasn't good enough,
15:37 but just seeing like the,
15:39 it's all the way it's gonna fall on him.
15:40 And that's what you are,
15:42 it's gonna happen as the Ohio State quarterback
15:44 and it's gonna be a tough one for him.
15:46 But yeah, I thought that he could have been better
15:48 in situations, but wasn't overall horrible.
15:51 - Marvin caught five passes for 118
15:53 and a touchdown, nine targets his direction.
15:56 Julian Fleming caught all three balls thrown his way.
15:59 Cade Stover, three catches on six targets.
16:01 Emeka Igbuka, three catches on six targets.
16:04 Cade and Emeka combined for 67 yards receiving.
16:08 And of course Emeka had the one touchdown.
16:12 All right, let's talk Marvin Harrison for a second.
16:15 - Yeah.
16:16 - There's a lot to talk about here.
16:18 I don't really wanna entertain the thought
16:21 and Marvin didn't give an immediate answer.
16:23 I mean, look, there seems to be an exceptionally small
16:28 chance that he returns next year.
16:32 And given that Ohio State, first of all,
16:34 they don't know if they're gonna play in the playoff or not.
16:38 It's pretty darn unlikely.
16:39 And I think we kind of hit on that pregame,
16:41 the team that loses this game,
16:43 probably treating this like a national quarterfinal.
16:45 You're probably gonna play a new year six game
16:47 and that'll be that.
16:48 I hate the thought of this,
16:51 but did we just see Marvin Harrison play
16:53 his last football for Ohio State?
16:55 I think there's a decent chance that's true.
16:56 - Yeah, and I think you could see it too
16:58 at the end of the game.
16:59 He was kind of overcome with emotion
17:01 like while he was still in his uniform,
17:04 like sat down and that's not somebody
17:06 who's just angry that they lost.
17:08 It was a very kind of a telling thing and it stinks
17:11 because he's an unbelievable,
17:14 like he's one of the best receivers you're ever gonna see.
17:17 He's got everything you want.
17:18 He's got the size, he's got the speed and the strength.
17:20 And he just, the amazing part is he catches everything.
17:23 And it's almost a joke now where it's like,
17:25 throw it in his direction, Marvin's coming down with it.
17:28 And he just does, like that catch you just described early,
17:31 like the ball was a little bit inside
17:32 and he got his arm pinned down.
17:33 It doesn't matter, I can just use my right arm
17:35 and make the catch while getting past interfered.
17:37 Like just so special and it was fun to just watch him
17:40 and you hope he's coming back, but you also understand
17:42 like if you're the number two overall pick,
17:44 that's a lot of money you'd be turning down.
17:46 - Well, I mean, I would say the only thing
17:47 that prevents me from just jumping on and saying,
17:50 thank you so long, go Bucs forever Marvin.
17:54 The NIL era has changed a lot of things.
17:57 And maybe there's an outside chance
18:01 that some way, somehow he could still return.
18:05 I just, I personally find that extremely unlikely.
18:09 He is unquestionably one of the all-time great
18:12 Ohio State wide receivers,
18:14 much like CJ Stroud, who is one of the all-time great
18:21 Ohio State quarterbacks.
18:22 I think he's probably on the Mount Rushmore
18:23 of Ohio State quarterbacks.
18:25 Marvin probably leaves Ohio State here
18:30 and probably assuming he leaves Ohio State,
18:35 he walks away having never beaten Michigan.
18:38 And that's going to be the case for this senior class
18:41 after not having the game in 2020
18:44 and losing each of the last three years.
18:46 It's a pretty tough thing that these guys
18:50 are walking away from.
18:51 - It's an amazing, it's truly amazing what's happened
18:55 these last three years.
18:57 - By the way, thank you, Matthew.
18:58 Appreciate that, man.
18:59 - Thanks a bunch.
19:00 - Thank you.
19:01 And it's truly amazing what's kind of come through
19:04 Ohio State's program and who's put on the Buckeye helmet
19:07 these past couple of years to not beat
19:10 these Michigan Wolverines.
19:11 And I know this may be a conversation for you and I
19:14 for another time, but like some of the guys
19:16 that have been through, man,
19:17 it's just really unfortunate for them
19:19 to not be able to leave Michigan Stadium with a victory
19:23 or to have beaten them at the horseshoe,
19:26 because that sticks with you your whole life.
19:29 And their legacies, it sticks with it.
19:31 Marvin said something a couple of weeks ago,
19:32 he goes, "Trust me, we know,"
19:33 or maybe it was Denzel Burke, he said,
19:35 "Trust me, we know our class is the one
19:37 that hasn't beaten them."
19:38 And you feel that,
19:39 and that's part of that Ohio State fraternity.
19:42 You know, it's really unfortunate for those guys
19:45 'cause they're so skilled,
19:46 they're gonna be such great pros,
19:47 and CJ is a perfect example of it.
19:49 Like, he's one of the best players in the NFL today
19:51 and just was never able to do it.
19:53 You know, it's unfortunate for those guys.
19:55 - I wanna talk Ohio State rushing for a second.
19:58 You know, they came into this game
20:01 with so much momentum running the football,
20:04 especially Travion Henderson,
20:05 with 500 rushing yards the last four games.
20:09 And I think we kind of alluded to this pregame
20:11 that if the thought was you're gonna run a lot
20:13 between the tackles, could be difficult.
20:16 I actually thought Ohio State's offensive line
20:18 played pretty well, all things considered.
20:21 Michigan had one sack,
20:23 and that sack was their only tackle
20:24 for loss the entire game.
20:27 The offensive line kept Kyle McCord generally pretty clean.
20:31 They just didn't get a ton of push.
20:34 You know, Travion's day was kind of mediocre.
20:40 It's 19 carries for 60 yards.
20:43 I mean, he ran hard.
20:45 His longest carry of the game was for eight yards,
20:48 and he averaged 3.2 yards per carry.
20:51 You know, give Michigan some credit.
20:53 They eliminated Ohio State's ability
20:56 to break off a big rushing play,
20:58 which has broken the back of several teams
21:02 that Buckeyes have beaten the last couple of months here,
21:04 and Michigan found a way to bottle them up.
21:06 - It was shocking.
21:07 You know, I did not see it going that way.
21:09 You know, I thought Travion Henderson was,
21:11 and is one of Ohio State's best players,
21:13 and it almost felt like, and you can correct me
21:15 if you felt something different,
21:16 but they started using Chip Traynham
21:18 as like almost like a changeup, if you will.
21:21 He came in and had a little bit of juice.
21:22 He only finished with six carries, six for 37,
21:24 but it felt like they were leaning heavy on Travion early,
21:28 and then started to kind of mix Chip
21:29 in almost as like a changeup to him,
21:31 and it just couldn't get anything
21:33 really going in the run game,
21:35 and we've seen it a bunch of times.
21:36 You know, Ohio State uses the run to set up the pass,
21:39 and weren't able to do so today.
21:41 - You know, one of the big talking points all week long
21:44 was whether or not Ohio State could establish a run game,
21:50 and how could they potentially wear down Michigan's defense,
21:55 and maybe more than in any game
21:59 I can remember for a little while,
22:02 it felt like there were a whole bunch of plays on both sides
22:05 that just kind of like washed each other out, right?
22:08 I mean, like three-yard run, five-yard run,
22:10 six-yard run, whatever.
22:12 There were so many of those both ways.
22:15 Field position really mattered in this game,
22:17 and when you turn the ball over in bad spots,
22:19 that's, you know, especially costly,
22:22 and I think that was one of the biggest reasons
22:24 the Buckeyes lost this game,
22:25 but I just never felt like Ohio State
22:28 could get it going on the ground.
22:29 It wasn't for a lack of effort.
22:31 They ran it 28 times and threw it 30,
22:35 so they had good balance there,
22:36 but maybe this goes back to answer a question
22:38 you asked me a bit earlier about where things turned.
22:42 I think Ryan Day, deep in his core,
22:47 probably identifies more with his,
22:50 like, true offensive philosophy
22:53 with the aerial attack that they've had the last few years
22:58 with CJ, yeah, with CJ and with Justin Fields
23:01 and even with Dwayne Haskins,
23:03 where he constantly talked about wanting to have
23:06 more balance in the run game and pass game,
23:08 and this year they had more balance than ever,
23:13 and here we are, and, you know, things haven't changed.
23:16 Ohio State's not playing for a Big Ten title this year,
23:18 and there's not a very good chance
23:20 they're going to have a chance now
23:22 at a national championship run,
23:23 'cause they don't think they're going to make the playoff,
23:25 so I think part of why things changed
23:29 was because Ryan Day looks at the identity of this team,
23:34 sees the weapon that Travion Henderson is,
23:36 and wants to keep feeding him the ball
23:38 because Kyle wasn't quite sharp enough.
23:43 - Yeah, it's interesting.
23:46 It was tough, man, I just couldn't understand
23:48 because you feel like you're finally in a game,
23:50 just like you said, where a lot of it was,
23:52 felt like almost, it did, early on it felt like,
23:55 kind of like a Big Ten West game,
23:56 where it was like, hey, run it, stop, and then run it.
23:59 - I was laughing early, thinking,
24:01 are we watching Iowa, Nebraska?
24:02 Like, what are we doing here?
24:03 - Literally, but, like, jokingly, yeah,
24:05 you're like, holy cow, like,
24:06 this is what other fan bases experience
24:08 because this is two teams that are, you know,
24:10 equal to each other, you know, kind of playing,
24:13 and you're like, oh my gosh, you find something,
24:15 and it's like, all right, you know, teams lean into it.
24:17 Think back a couple weeks ago
24:18 when Michigan found the running game against Penn State,
24:20 and not saying he needed to do it 32 straight times,
24:23 I think that's super unrealistic,
24:25 but just like, felt like he wanted
24:27 to win the game through the air
24:29 and didn't want the reason they won to be on the ground.
24:31 I know that's not right, but it's like,
24:33 I can't just, I can't figure out
24:35 why he didn't just stick with it
24:37 and try to wear Michigan down.
24:39 It just doesn't make sense to me.
24:42 All right, from a discipline perspective,
24:46 I give both these teams a lot of credit
24:47 because there were a few moments along the way
24:50 where you started to think like,
24:51 okay, is this going to pop off here?
24:53 Is this going to go south?
24:54 None of that happened.
24:58 As far as we know, nothing bad happened in the tunnel.
25:02 I'm sure, you know, the teams probably
25:03 jawed each other all the time,
25:04 but, you know, it seemed like the fire
25:08 and the anger in this rivalry was largely decided
25:13 between the lines, which is where you want it.
25:15 I give Ohio State a lot of credit
25:17 for having just one penalty all game for five yards.
25:20 It was incredibly frustrating that it once again
25:23 came on special teams.
25:25 Michigan, only three penalties for 33 yards.
25:27 So all things considered,
25:29 I don't think there were any moments where I'd say,
25:31 hey, that was a dirty play or, you know,
25:34 where teams were playing undisciplined football.
25:37 So I was happy about it from that perspective.
25:40 I want to point out something that I am pretty sure
25:44 did not make the TV broadcast.
25:47 You know, you're sitting in the press box,
25:49 you got TV monitors above that are like five seconds delayed
25:53 and I had the TV broadcast on my iPad in front of me
25:56 in addition, and that stream was about 60 seconds delayed.
26:01 And as I was kind of bouncing back and forth
26:02 between the two, I don't think I saw this,
26:05 but I saw it with my eyes.
26:07 When Zach Zinter got hurt,
26:09 and that was a really tough injury, really, really tough.
26:13 And I wish him well, I don't want to see guys get hurt.
26:16 Felt like a moment that kind of brought Michigan together.
26:21 And Zach's parents came down basically
26:25 to like the base of the tunnel.
26:27 And Ryan Day went over and shook Zach Zinter's father's hand
26:32 and I assume wished him well and was respectful
26:36 and his condolences there as it looked like
26:39 Zach suffered a pretty tough injury.
26:41 To me, that's having respect for the rivalry, right?
26:46 It's even in the absolute heat of the moment,
26:49 understanding that it's a game
26:51 and these are 18 to 21 year old kids largely.
26:54 And I just thought that was incredibly classy for Ryan.
26:59 I don't know how much run that's going to get
27:01 because I don't think it got on TV,
27:03 but I think Ryan deserves a lot of credit
27:05 because that was a really classy thing to do.
27:07 - And what did get on TV is when he was going into the,
27:11 they were taking a cart into the tunnel,
27:14 the guy right at the first,
27:17 I guess, Ohio State personnel person was Ryan Day.
27:20 That you drove past, clapping.
27:21 Obviously it was incredibly emotional
27:23 and it's horrible for him.
27:25 He came back to try to improve his draft stock
27:28 from a second round pick to a first round pick.
27:30 So you just, you pray for him
27:31 that it's not as bad as it looked, but really cool.
27:35 And just to your point, respecting the rivalry,
27:38 there's a line somewhere.
27:40 You can hate the other school
27:42 and the other colors as much as you want,
27:44 but when someone gets hurt or something like that happens,
27:46 they are just kids and turning that off was awesome to see.
27:49 - Okay, defensively for Ohio State,
27:52 I'm pretty sure he led the team in tackles,
27:56 but the guy that jumped off the page to me
27:58 was Steel Chambers.
27:59 I mean, from the get-go, that kid was everywhere.
28:02 On every hit, he was right in the thick of it.
28:05 I thought Chambers may have played one of his best games
28:09 as a Buckeye today.
28:10 And it was really nice to see that
28:12 because there was a ton of attention on Tommy Eichenberg,
28:16 leading up to the week and having not played
28:19 the last couple of weeks,
28:20 wanting to see what kind of impact he could make.
28:22 I thought Tommy also played well.
28:24 He had one pretty frustrating mistackle,
28:27 but I give Steel a lot of credit for the way he fought.
28:30 I also thought Sonny Stiles, who was under a microscope,
28:34 largely played pretty well, right?
28:36 With no way to ransom on the field, Sonny got a start.
28:39 Wasn't a perfect game, but pretty darn good.
28:42 - Yeah, he was pretty good.
28:43 Steel Chambers, 13 tackles, five solos,
28:45 did lead the team.
28:46 Sonny Stiles, second with seven tackles, four solos,
28:49 and a half tackle for loss.
28:51 I thought Steel was impressive,
28:55 not only tackling the football and in the run game,
28:58 but I thought there was a couple of plays
28:59 that one that sticks out to me was early on,
29:01 or maybe in the first quarter,
29:02 where J.J. McCarthy breaks the pocket.
29:06 And it was J.J. running, Steel was in front of him,
29:09 and there was a running back right behind him,
29:10 and Steel kind of got him into this.
29:12 It was like a cat-mouse game.
29:13 He was waiting for him to pick,
29:15 making J.J. pick the decision
29:17 and not letting the big play happen
29:18 because there was nothing behind him.
29:20 And it was just a really good play.
29:21 It ended up being J.J. McCarthy runs out of bounds
29:23 for one yard, and I honestly don't remember
29:25 how the drive ends up finishing out,
29:26 but it was like something that just caught my attention.
29:28 Like, that's a really veteran play,
29:30 not to just commit to one and sacrifice the other.
29:33 I thought he was great, he was everywhere.
29:34 Sonny Stiles, there's a couple plays in there
29:38 where he wasn't just in on plays.
29:40 He was making the play in the backfield,
29:42 changing the running back's direction,
29:44 blowing up offensive linemen.
29:45 I thought he played aggressive as heck,
29:47 and he's one of those guys we've talked about him.
29:49 You know, it was funny, I was with my family today,
29:51 and I was with my brother, and he was like,
29:53 "Hey, remember when we were going over
29:54 to the Notre Dame game, and you told me,
29:55 'Hey, watch out for Sonny Stiles'?"
29:57 First of all, that was two and a half months ago,
29:59 which is crazy.
30:00 Secondly, Sonny Stiles from there,
30:03 like, he's just gotten so much better all year long.
30:06 Like, and it's just, he's at the point now
30:07 where he is that transformer guy,
30:09 where he can play in the post and be that deep safety,
30:12 but he can also stand right next to Tommy Eichenberg
30:15 and cause havoc in the backfield.
30:16 Thought he was really impressive.
30:19 - I thought Jack Sawyer has probably closed
30:22 his Ohio State career.
30:24 I would also imagine he'll probably enter the NFL draft.
30:28 I don't know that for sure,
30:29 but he's put a lot of good things on tape
30:31 the last couple of weeks.
30:32 I thought Jack had another good game today.
30:34 Ty Hamilton played better than I expected him to
30:40 by the end of the year than where I was
30:42 at the beginning of the year with him.
30:44 He really grew to the point where early on,
30:49 I was a little irritated when Mike Hall
30:52 got subbed off the field.
30:54 And by the last two weeks and today,
30:57 I thought Ty played really well as a defensive tackle,
31:00 and I was not as bothered when he was in there
31:03 because he was productive.
31:04 And when Mike Hall got chances,
31:05 I thought he was pretty solid.
31:07 I suppose the reason this is so disappointing
31:12 is because you look at the way Ohio State
31:14 lost the last two years.
31:16 We were bludgeoned to death on the ground,
31:18 especially between the tackles,
31:20 and they gave up chunk play after chunk play
31:23 in losses to both Michigan and Georgia last year.
31:27 You build up the whole season to get to this point,
31:31 and it seems like you fixed those two issues, right?
31:35 Really solidified defensive tackle play,
31:37 and didn't give up other than one trick play to Rutgers,
31:41 didn't give up a play of 40 yards or more all season long.
31:45 And here you go, you come back to Michigan,
31:47 and you're right there.
31:49 But two costly turnovers, and all of a sudden now,
31:52 you're talking about a New Year's Six Bowl most likely,
31:54 instead of a college football playoff spot.
31:57 - It's amazing, and you watch back the game,
31:59 and one of the things that you're able to put your hat on
32:03 is that there was not gonna be a big play in Ohio State.
32:06 Even today, there's a couple where either Donovan Edwards
32:09 or Blake Corum tried to squeak through a line
32:12 and break a tackle, but they're just sound tacklers.
32:14 They were in the right spots.
32:16 And I'm just really impressed.
32:17 Honestly, you give up 31 points,
32:19 but you take seven of those off the board,
32:22 30 points, excuse me, you take seven of those off the board
32:24 with that interception, and you play a good game.
32:28 It's a good Michigan offense.
32:29 It's a good Michigan team, and they do it differently.
32:31 They have that very old school feel to them,
32:33 but I'm very impressed by this Ohio State defense.
32:38 They answered the questions they needed to
32:39 and just couldn't make one stop.
32:41 There's one play that comes to mind
32:44 where it was the turning point, in my opinion, in the game,
32:46 where it was Michigan's up three.
32:49 Ohio State just takes the ball off to them.
32:52 It's in the fourth quarter,
32:53 and you got Michigan on a third and three
32:55 with still six minutes left to go in the game,
32:57 and they end up throwing a pass for the first down.
32:59 But it was like right there, you need to slam the door,
33:02 give the ball back to Ohio State.
33:03 You have all the momentum coming off Marvin's touchdown.
33:06 And it was like, hey, this is the time.
33:07 They just weren't able to get the job done.
33:09 And you feel for them, 'cause that group's been
33:12 really, really good all year long.
33:16 Another big talking point this week was
33:18 what would this game do for Ryan Day's legacy?
33:20 He's 56 and seven.
33:23 He is undefeated against every single Big Ten team,
33:28 not named Michigan.
33:29 And he's lost three straight now to Michigan.
33:33 And obviously, this rivalry, it's heavier.
33:38 It matters more.
33:39 I have said time and time and time again,
33:46 that I, in my core, do not believe
33:49 Ryan Day's job is in jeopardy.
33:52 I don't.
33:53 And the smoke pregame that came out about Ryan Day
33:59 having the attention of the Texas A&M Aggies,
34:02 if Ohio State were to lose today,
34:04 where they felt like maybe Ryan
34:06 would answer their phone call,
34:08 they'd have to pay him live golf money
34:10 to leave Ohio State.
34:12 It ain't happening.
34:15 Gene Smith retiring in the summertime,
34:18 I cannot envision, I would be shell-shocked
34:22 if Gene Smith relieved Ohio State head coach, Ryan Day,
34:26 and then went through the process
34:28 of trying to figure out what they wanted to do,
34:31 hire a new coach, and then walk away
34:33 and tell a new athletic director,
34:34 "Hey, here's your new football coach.
34:35 "Hope you like him."
34:37 It's not gonna happen.
34:38 So I don't even wanna continue to address that topic.
34:42 But I think it is relevant now that he's lost three in a row
34:46 to circle back here on what does this do for his legacy.
34:51 The first couple, maybe a little more easily explainable
34:56 because of what was going on with Michigan
34:58 and the sign-stealing cheating scandal.
35:01 That excuse isn't there anymore.
35:05 - No, this was a tough one.
35:08 This is a blow because you had
35:11 what you thought was a team on an even playing field.
35:16 You got an opportunity to really show who you are
35:20 and show the country really that Michigan was getting by
35:24 doing something they weren't supposed to
35:25 the last couple of years and weren't really able to do it.
35:28 Let them down this year,
35:31 it wasn't even like the defense let them down
35:33 like they did in years past.
35:34 Kind of the offense let the Buckeyes down today.
35:36 It's just, man, it is tough
35:39 because the conversation now is,
35:41 "What are those Big 10, that Big 10 record?
35:43 "What does that even mean?
35:44 "What is wins over Rutgers in Mississippi,
35:47 "and Michigan State, what does that mean?"
35:49 Because if you can't get this one done,
35:50 but I agree with you, man.
35:52 It's hard to build a program
35:53 and it's hard to get Ohio State in the relevancy
35:57 that they are every single year
35:58 and being in that conversation of a top five team.
36:01 And he's got them there,
36:02 it just hasn't been able to get them over the top.
36:05 And it's interesting to see what's gonna happen
36:08 these next couple of weeks because it's,
36:10 I don't know, fan base is riled up for sure.
36:12 - Yeah, and they should be, right?
36:16 I mean, if nothing else,
36:18 Ryan Day and his staff lean into this
36:22 as much as anybody, right?
36:24 I mean, they are vocal.
36:26 We're not allowed to lose around here.
36:27 And this game in particular,
36:29 you're not allowed to lose it.
36:30 You can't lose, you have to win.
36:32 You have to.
36:34 And three years in a row, they haven't.
36:36 You know, so,
36:39 it's really difficult to stump for a coach
36:44 who by his own standards is falling short.
36:50 But I don't have a problem with Ryan Day.
36:53 I like him a lot and I think he's a good coach
36:56 and I think he's the right guy to lead Ohio State.
36:58 I don't always love every decision he makes.
37:04 I would have liked to see a little more aggressiveness
37:08 today, but I understand the need to play
37:13 the field position game when both defenses
37:17 were kind of taking center stage early on.
37:20 So, yeah, it's a weird spot.
37:25 He's going to have, I'll put it this way.
37:28 I wouldn't want to be Ryan Day the next 12 months.
37:30 It's going to be tough.
37:31 - It would be tough.
37:32 Your tweet was very funny earlier.
37:33 If you haven't seen it, go check it out.
37:35 But unless they offer the B.
37:38 - A billion dollars.
37:39 - Yes, with a B, that'd be the only way he'd consider it.
37:42 But you know what, man?
37:44 The surprise is that he wasn't more aggressive.
37:47 Like, you know, it was very shocking to me
37:50 and not even like the play at the end of the half.
37:52 Like, that's just a tough situation.
37:53 You need points.
37:54 If you come out of there, if they throw it
37:55 to the four yard line and don't get points,
37:57 like everyone's hooping and hollering, you know.
37:59 But I just, the lack of aggression was kind of interesting.
38:02 I don't know.
38:03 We'll have to go back and watch it.
38:04 Obviously the tape tells the story,
38:06 but you know, it's unfortunate.
38:08 And it's a tough situation for him.
38:10 It's a tough situation for, you know,
38:12 the Ohio State Athletic Department.
38:13 Like, what do you do?
38:14 You know, it's going to be, it's going to,
38:16 we're going to see how it shakes out
38:17 and it's going to happen quickly, I think.
38:19 - So I don't want to go too far into this
38:23 because this is a little more focused on this game,
38:26 but because it is this game,
38:28 I think it's fair that we have to at least discuss
38:32 the where do you go from here, right?
38:34 Ohio State's going to play in a New Year's six bowl game.
38:37 They're 11 and one.
38:39 They're going to be our top 11 team in the country.
38:41 There's no way they're not playing on a New Year's six game.
38:45 The question is, is it the Orange Bowl?
38:47 Is it the Fiesta Bowl?
38:48 I don't think there'll be in the Cotton Bowl.
38:51 You know, it's not the Sugar Bowl or the Rose Bowl
38:53 'cause those are the playoff games.
38:55 And like, I mean, we left Ohio Stadium last year
38:58 feeling like, yeah, it's, you know, okay, where are we going?
39:02 And it's not going to be a playoff game.
39:04 And they got a little lucky, things fell their way.
39:06 I don't think there's a 0% chance that Ohio State,
39:10 you know, is still, is playoff hopeful.
39:12 I don't think it's completely over,
39:15 but I think there is a far more complicated scenario
39:20 that exists that would allow them
39:21 to get in the playoffs this year.
39:24 And I said this post game last year,
39:26 and I'll stand by it again.
39:27 I mean, I think it's the truth.
39:28 If you don't win your conference
39:30 and you don't beat your rival,
39:31 and you're in a four team playoff,
39:33 I don't think you belong in the playoff.
39:35 I'm not saying Ohio State last year
39:37 wasn't one of the four best teams in the country.
39:39 I thought they were.
39:40 But, you know, I don't want to get too philosophical.
39:44 I think it's stupid that we have a four team playoff
39:46 when you had five power five conferences in the first place.
39:49 It's just dumb.
39:49 You're not rewarding conference champions
39:52 like you do in every other sport
39:53 at every other level of the NCAA.
39:56 So the fact that you're going to a 12 team playoff next year
39:58 obviously takes some meaning away from a game like this
40:01 because it wouldn't knock the Buckeyes out of the playoff.
40:03 That's part of what stings here.
40:06 That said, they have to start--
40:09 once it becomes official one way or the other,
40:12 they have to start making some decisions about, OK,
40:14 how does this thing move forward?
40:17 Who's going to play in that game and who doesn't?
40:20 Who's going to be your quarterback in that game
40:21 and who isn't?
40:22 Do you play Kyle McCord the whole game?
40:24 Do you give Devin Brown some run?
40:26 Do you give Keane Holtz some opportunities?
40:29 I don't know.
40:31 Ohio State needs to look top to bottom and evaluate this thing
40:34 and say, where can they be better?
40:35 Because again, by their own standards,
40:37 if you're measuring how successful you are
40:41 by whether or not you win this game three years in a row,
40:44 it's not good enough.
40:46 It's really interesting to see how it's going to shake out
40:50 because in this bowl season where they are now,
40:53 you're going to see whoever's going to the draft,
40:55 they're going to withdraw their name from--
40:56 they're not going to play because the bowl games really
40:59 don't mean much.
41:00 And we've seen it.
41:00 I mean, you were out there in Pasadena a few years back.
41:03 And that was the birth of Jackson Smith and Jigba.
41:06 So who plays and who's the next guy?
41:08 The next--
41:09 It was also kind of the birth of Marvin Harrison Jr.
41:11 Yeah.
41:12 Yeah.
41:12 I mean, it was-- yeah, absolutely.
41:14 And who's it going to be?
41:16 You kind of turn the page almost if you aren't in the playoff.
41:20 And I agree with you.
41:21 I think the chances are very, very, very slim.
41:23 But I think there is still a chance.
41:25 But if you're not in the playoff,
41:27 what's it going to look like next year?
41:28 We've got to start getting--
41:30 you kind of turn the page.
41:31 You have to start getting some of the young guys in,
41:34 get them going, get them playing,
41:36 get them practicing more importantly,
41:38 and start continuing to grow this program
41:40 and try to reload and be in a better position next year.
41:45 I think we've kind of hit a lot of the bases here.
41:47 I'm not sure we've missed anything.
41:48 But anything else that is kind of on your mind postgame here
41:52 as we try to dissect this?
41:53 Yeah, I would add--
41:54 the last thing I would add-- and you're there right now.
41:57 And it looks like a beautiful sunset kind
41:58 of coming on your way.
41:59 This game, take the bummer out of it,
42:03 was an awesome football game.
42:04 And I know you had mentioned it earlier in the week.
42:06 It was like, hey, this is two versus three,
42:08 undefeated versus undefeated, on a level playing field
42:11 for the first time in three years.
42:13 And it was a truly back and forth.
42:15 This is one, although it didn't go our way,
42:17 this is one that's going to play on replay for years and years
42:21 and years to come because it was exactly what you want.
42:24 Ohio State had good moments.
42:25 Michigan had good moments.
42:26 There was a chance for a really close game at the end.
42:29 It was really awesome.
42:30 It was an awesome football game and an awesome way
42:32 to end the regular season with this rivalry.
42:35 I mean, look, I don't disagree with that at all.
42:39 This is what you want out of this rivalry.
42:41 You want to feel like you're going
42:44 to puke from the moment you wake up in the morning
42:47 until there's triple zeros on the clock.
42:51 Because even if you think the game's over,
42:53 it might not be over.
42:54 And all game long, I sat there and was queasy and felt like,
42:59 you know, the Buckeyes are right there.
43:01 They're still in it.
43:02 There's no reason this can't work out.
43:04 You tie the game, even when you went down a score,
43:07 it wasn't out of reach.
43:09 It wasn't until Michigan just bled the clock
43:14 in the fourth quarter that the reality started to set in
43:17 that this might not happen.
43:19 And even at that, the Bucs still had life.
43:22 They were down six, got the ball back, and had a chance.
43:25 It was a classic Ohio State-Michigan rivalry game
43:31 in that fashion.
43:33 Blowouts are fun if you're on the right side.
43:35 But the reality is, in terms of overall value in a game,
43:41 I would always rather see a close game in the rivalry.
43:44 And so, yeah, for that reason, this hurts even worse.
43:50 It felt like you'd rather get blown out.
43:53 Yeah, it's not fun.
43:56 It felt like they were always one play away.
43:58 And how the game was going, you were like--
44:00 there was a couple times early on that JT and Jack were just
44:03 kind of like burning the edges and getting around.
44:05 You're like, holy cow, we're a strip sack away
44:07 from erasing that turnover, erasing that early interception.
44:10 And something's going to happen.
44:12 Where's it going to be, this Ohio State defense?
44:14 And you're leaning on it.
44:15 And everyone wanted it to go our way.
44:18 It didn't.
44:19 But that's an all-time game we just watched this afternoon.
44:22 Yeah.
44:24 All right, well, I mean, it was fun.
44:28 And it also sucked.
44:29 I mean, what do you want?
44:33 I think Ohio State probably gets on the bus heading home
44:37 feeling kicked in the stomach.
44:40 Because ultimately, they didn't accomplish their biggest goal
44:43 of the year to win the rivalry game.
44:48 But the questions that you had at the end of last season,
44:52 in my opinion, were pretty obviously answered.
44:55 And there was certainly some good steps forward this year,
44:59 but ultimately, not enough to win the game.
45:01 Because Michigan got better, too.
45:04 And so the Buckeyes got to go back to the drawing board
45:06 and hope that the next 12 months will yield a different result
45:10 some way, somehow.
45:12 And we'll have to wait and see what happens for the Buckeyes.
45:15 They will be on the sidelines next weekend
45:17 as Michigan goes to Indianapolis to play the Iowa Hawkeyes.
45:23 I didn't see if there were any live updates post-game
45:26 after this.
45:27 But I saw yesterday that the opening line was likely
45:31 Michigan minus 22 and 1/2.
45:34 So whatever that means for your Saturday plans next weekend,
45:38 act accordingly.
45:39 Mark it on your calendar.
45:40 Yeah.
45:42 In the meantime, it's been a fun year for sure.
45:44 I mean, this team's been fun to follow.
45:46 They got a bunch of really good dudes.
45:47 And again, I don't know that Ohio State's not
45:49 going to make the playoff.
45:50 I just think it's unlikely.
45:53 But we'll be there to cover it no matter what.
45:55 And we've certainly enjoyed having a great audience
45:57 throughout the course of the year
45:58 and appreciate your support for sure.
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46:06 with a good audience throughout the course of the year,
46:08 not just on big game days.
46:10 So for Anthony Meglin and for Luke Schradle,
46:12 who's producing behind the scenes for us tonight,
46:14 I'm Brendan Gulick.
46:15 Final score of the Big House, Michigan 30, Ohio State 24.
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46:29 where the Buckeyes will look to learn their immediate fate,
46:33 wherever that may take them.
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