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Not only is Manz (known as @notmrmanziel on Twitter) one of the best traders on Twitter, but he is the first returning guest of the WOLF podcast. Our follow-up episode is perfect for any beginner who is overwhelmed with the analytical side of stocks and trading. Manz breaks down his strategies and terminologies, while using his real-life experiences to explain his charts.
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- How to identify A+ setups
- How to read QQQ charts
- What to look for when trading during certain time frames
- How to understand and respond to Level 2 data
- Fluctuating bids and asks
- How traders can improve their mindset
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00:00 Even the best traders, myself included, get chopped up.
00:02 Like this week I got chopped up more times
00:04 than I probably have in three months, right?
00:06 - Welcome back to another episode of the Wolf Podcast.
00:18 It's a pleasure having you on.
00:19 My name is Gav Blacksburg and I'll be your host today
00:22 straight from @Wolf_Financial on Twitter.
00:25 And today we are bringing back,
00:27 for the first time on our podcast, a guest.
00:29 Yes, this was our most watched podcast.
00:31 It was extremely highly requested that we do a part two.
00:34 So I'm very excited to welcome Manz,
00:37 @NotMrManzel on Twitter, back onto the Wolf Pod.
00:40 Manz, how's it going?
00:42 - Doing well, guys.
00:43 How are you guys doing?
00:44 It's awesome to be back.
00:45 You know, second time around is always the best one.
00:48 So very excited to be back.
00:50 - Absolutely, yeah.
00:51 With this opportunity of already being past
00:54 those initial introductions,
00:55 some of those initial insights,
00:56 I was able to collect some of the most top requested
01:00 questions from the audience.
01:01 And I also pulled Twitter a little bit
01:03 to understand, you know,
01:04 what do people really want us to dive into?
01:06 And everybody wanted the charts, the data, the analytics.
01:10 They really want it to be able to see for themselves.
01:12 So last time I was sharing my screen
01:14 and showing a little bit of the charting.
01:15 And this time we're going to be able to dive
01:17 into your screen and take a look.
01:19 So for people that are on here, you can already see,
01:21 we've got Webull pulled up here.
01:23 We've got the QQQ chart, as well as the level two data.
01:27 And we're going to start out with a simple question here,
01:30 but not so simple.
01:31 And that is to man's, how do you identify, you know,
01:34 as your science says behind you, A plus setups,
01:38 and then understand how you're going to position size
01:40 into them based on how strong of a setup it is?
01:43 - Yeah, absolutely.
01:44 Well, I mean, so first off, that's an awesome first question.
01:48 And I think that really my system
01:50 involves confirmation points.
01:52 So in order for a setup to be defined as A plus,
01:56 there has to be confirmation backing the trade.
01:59 So in this case, guys, really, you know,
02:01 an A plus setup for me usually hits four confirmation points
02:05 and so for me, I am a very stick
02:09 to the basics type of trader.
02:11 My goal with the system is to, you know,
02:13 keep things as under complicated as possible.
02:16 And so really, you know, oftentimes
02:19 my first confirmation point is going to be
02:23 a level on the chart that I believe to be a key spot
02:27 that I am looking for.
02:27 So, you know, for example, you know,
02:30 if we're on the QQQ chart right now, right?
02:32 And I was to, you know, kind of figure out a key level
02:34 that I am going to look to, you know,
02:36 take a swing position, for example,
02:39 I'm going to mark out that key support on the weekly chart
02:42 at, you know, in this case, right,
02:44 we have the 275 area, right?
02:46 That I feel like is going to be the key level
02:48 on the weekly.
02:49 And I'm just using this as an example,
02:50 but the first thing would be, okay, hey, you know,
02:53 the setup that in this case is, you know, at the key level,
02:56 this is going to be my first confirmation point
02:58 that I want to look to buy calls for a month out
03:01 at a key weekly support level.
03:03 So that's going to be confirmation point number one.
03:05 And then I'm going to look
03:06 for additional confirmation points as well.
03:08 So for example, I took a trade on BABA this past week
03:12 and one of the key confirmation points
03:14 for that to be an A plus setup for me was the night prior,
03:18 they had earnings this past Thursday morning,
03:20 the night prior, I was going through a Cheddar flow
03:23 and I saw that there was a lot of activity put closing,
03:27 which is a form of flow that I look at.
03:30 And when you see puts being closed,
03:32 that is oftentimes a bullish indicator for a stock.
03:35 So, you know, and I'm using flow as an example
03:38 because that is another form of confirmation
03:40 for me going into the trade, right?
03:43 So it has to be a process of devolving.
03:46 It has to be a process of putting together three
03:49 to four really key points of information
03:51 that are going to lead it to be an A plus setup for me.
03:53 And so flow can be one of those.
03:55 And in that case with BABA, you know,
03:58 having the put closing there the night before,
04:00 understanding that, you know, fundamentally, right?
04:02 Fundamentals is another point of confirmation.
04:05 If a stock has strong earnings
04:07 or it's had multiple price target upgrades,
04:09 or, you know, it's drastically increasing its sales,
04:13 those can all be fundamental confirmation points,
04:15 which, you know, with short-term trading
04:16 are not going to be as important,
04:18 but they're going to be another point of confirmation.
04:20 And I think that's the really important thing
04:22 that people need to understand
04:24 is that an A plus setup isn't just one particular thing.
04:28 It is going to be a culmination
04:30 of different confirmation points that, you know,
04:32 when they come together lead to an A plus setup.
04:35 - Okay, so one of them sounds like key level.
04:38 One of them sounds like flow.
04:40 I'm assuming level two data could be another.
04:43 - Yeah, absolutely.
04:44 So I'm a price action trader at heart, right?
04:48 I've spent, you know, thousands and thousands of hours
04:51 looking at these charts and understanding
04:53 how price action moves,
04:55 what a weak versus a strong tape looks like.
04:58 And so for me, you know,
05:00 especially when we look at individual stocks
05:02 and a good example of this right now would be Tesla.
05:05 And obviously, you know, it's currently after hours,
05:08 but if you guys, you know,
05:11 learn to really read the level two,
05:13 and one of the ways that you're gonna do that,
05:15 and the main way you're gonna do that
05:16 is by looking at the level two
05:19 for hours and hours and hours.
05:21 Level two almost becomes a certain feel, right?
05:24 You can feel when the tape is strong versus when it's weak.
05:27 And oftentimes you'll notice that, you know,
05:29 what you wanna see if you're going long on a stock
05:31 is going to be bids piled up here on the left-hand side,
05:35 where you see this is the bid ask.
05:38 So if you're unfamiliar,
05:39 that's gonna be showing where someone is willing
05:40 to buy a stock.
05:41 So someone is willing to buy, you know,
05:44 3,600 shares of Tesla at 180, right?
05:47 If we were in market hours,
05:49 one of the advantages to trading individual stocks
05:51 is you'll learn what a good bid is,
05:53 what a good, you know, ask is if you're short.
05:56 And when you see large scale bid and asks,
05:59 that can really kind of be another confirmation point
06:03 throughout the day.
06:03 If you see, you know, constantly bids coming in
06:06 on the left-hand side of that level two,
06:08 that can really lead you to say,
06:10 okay, hey, Tesla's got a lot of support here at 180,
06:13 for example, because I keep seeing the bid get stacked.
06:17 If I see a very strong level two on a long, you know,
06:20 long bias trade, that is definitely going to be
06:23 a point of confirmation for me, absolutely.
06:25 - Where's the best place for people to learn
06:27 how to read level two data?
06:29 - Yeah, so I have a video on my YouTube about it.
06:32 It's not as in-depth, it's more geared towards beginners,
06:35 but what I really would say,
06:36 and I'm telling this is coming from someone
06:38 who had no idea how to read level two
06:41 when I started trading,
06:43 level two is going to be one of the most powerful tools.
06:46 I've said that if I had no indicators and just a level two
06:49 and the chart itself,
06:51 that I could probably make some profitable trades
06:53 just using the level two, because at the heart of it,
06:56 it's really the bid and the ask,
06:58 and that's what's going to control price.
07:00 So for me, really the way that I learned, honestly,
07:03 was not by reading a book
07:04 or not by watching any YouTube video.
07:07 The way that I learned how to understand
07:09 what a strong versus a weak level two tape looks like
07:13 is really sitting at my computer
07:15 from at one point nine o'clock in the morning
07:18 until five o'clock at night,
07:19 and definitely soaking in the after hours
07:22 and pre-market level two was just the screen time.
07:25 And I really believe that is the most powerful tool
07:28 in order to read level two,
07:30 is really putting in those hours on the screen.
07:33 And trust me, if you spend enough hours
07:35 looking at that level two,
07:37 you'll kind of, in a sense, become one with it
07:39 and have a huge leg up going into your trades.
07:43 - Yeah, because it does seem to just be data that flies by.
07:46 There's so many orders coming in,
07:47 there's so much going on.
07:49 I don't want to get too far into this topic,
07:51 but beyond just watching it for hours,
07:54 is there a way to kind of,
07:55 any settings that you're using on your level two,
07:58 or anything along those lines
07:59 that kind of makes it a little easier to read?
08:01 - Yeah, so first off, Webull, if you're using Webull,
08:05 it's probably the most commonly used
08:06 options trading platform.
08:08 It's going to have a pretty solid level two.
08:13 If you'd like to get a little bit more advanced,
08:15 I have in the past used TD for level two,
08:19 just 'cause you're gonna get every single,
08:22 a more in-depth experience, we'll say that, to some extent.
08:25 E-Trade is another really good one for level two as well.
08:28 But combining level two with time of sales
08:31 is I think a very, very powerful tool.
08:33 No specific settings for me.
08:34 It's really, like I said,
08:36 I really, I learned how to trade on Webull.
08:38 I still trade on Webull every single day.
08:40 And the level two that it provides has really been,
08:43 like I said, a powerful tool for me
08:45 going throughout my trades.
08:47 - Perfect.
08:48 Let's talk volume.
08:49 What are you looking for when it comes to volume?
08:51 How does it influence how you trade?
08:53 - Yeah, so volume is really one of
08:56 the best confirmation points to use.
08:59 So really a fantastic example of this, I think,
09:02 is if you really see,
09:05 we'll use something like SE.
09:08 They just had earnings this past week.
09:12 And so what I'm gonna be looking for
09:14 is relative volume on the chart that I'm looking at.
09:17 So this is going to be a very important
09:19 confirmation point for me
09:21 when I do my trade plans on the weekends.
09:23 So if you guys have followed me on Twitter
09:25 or you've listened to me previously,
09:27 one of the most important things that I do
09:29 every single week is on Sunday night,
09:32 I am at the desk planning out my trades for the week ahead.
09:36 Because when you plan out your trades on Sunday night,
09:39 during the week it really just becomes
09:40 a robotic execution at some point.
09:42 And I think that that's a really important thing
09:44 to understand is having these trades planned out
09:46 in the future, it really takes the emotions out of trading.
09:50 And one of the biggest things that I'm going to be looking
09:53 for on those weekend scans, I call it the Sunday scan,
09:56 it's always been something,
09:57 it's become an integral part of my trading career,
10:00 is volume, right?
10:01 And because volume is really at its heart,
10:05 one of the most important things when you go into a trade,
10:08 a stock needs to have good volume,
10:10 your trades are going to be smoother,
10:12 there's going to be more volume on those options,
10:14 contracts when the underlying has good volume,
10:16 and volume is really going to drive price.
10:18 We've heard this all the time, but price precedes volume.
10:21 So when you see a lot of really heavy volume coming in,
10:24 so for example, like this week on SE,
10:27 is going to be, as you can see below here on the chart,
10:31 one of its highest relative volume weeks
10:33 that it's had in over two months.
10:36 And that's going to automatically move something
10:39 up or down on my watch list.
10:40 If there's high relative volume on those larger timeframes,
10:43 like the daily and weekly, it's automatically going to be
10:46 at the top of my watch list.
10:48 - Are you looking for, I know you talk
10:50 about relative volume a lot,
10:52 but are there any static numbers that kind of factor
10:55 into the equation when you're doing these searches?
10:58 - Yeah, well, and that's a great question.
11:00 Honestly, every stock is going to trade
11:03 a different amount of shares,
11:04 depending on how large the float is.
11:06 So for a stock like we talk about all the time,
11:08 well, CELH, right?
11:10 CELH has a much smaller float,
11:13 and therefore what is high relative volume for CELH,
11:17 so for example, as you can see just from a basic overview,
11:21 a high relative volume week for CELH
11:24 is 20 million shares traded every week.
11:28 'Cause you look and the average that it's trading
11:30 is around five to six million shares.
11:32 So a 20 million share week for CELH is 4x
11:37 its daily relative,
11:38 or its average weekly relative volume, right?
11:41 So it's all about relative volume
11:42 because every stock is going to have a different float
11:45 and therefore what is high volume to one stock
11:48 could be extremely low volume to another.
11:50 20 million shares traded on, you know,
11:53 Roblox is extremely, extremely low,
11:55 but for CELH it's 4x its relative weekly volume.
11:58 So those are very important concept to understand
12:01 is relative volume is gonna differ
12:03 depending on the stock you're looking at.
12:05 - Do you ever gravitate towards lower floats
12:07 for that reason?
12:08 - I really don't.
12:09 I think that, you know,
12:11 I really think I could trade any float size,
12:14 but, and I can, right?
12:16 I do it on a daily basis.
12:17 I'll go from a billion share float
12:18 to, you know, something that has a 200 million share float,
12:22 right, or Apple, right?
12:23 You have like massive, massive floats, right?
12:26 So for me, I've always found success.
12:28 I think that like 800 million to a billion share count
12:32 is kind of a sweet spot for me
12:34 where I've always found that it's like,
12:36 you can get those, you know, volatile price movements,
12:38 but, you know, price action and liquidity
12:40 is still gonna be very clean.
12:41 So for me, I don't try to discriminate too hard
12:44 against float size.
12:47 - So let's talk about finding those key levels
12:49 once more on the chart.
12:50 You pointed out with the Q before,
12:52 you said 275 might be a key level,
12:55 perhaps on coin you have some or others.
12:57 Maybe you could pull up a couple of those charts
12:59 and walk me through.
13:00 How do you find that key level of interest
13:02 and then go about, you know,
13:03 supplementing it with the other
13:05 confluence factors afterwards?
13:07 - Yeah, absolutely.
13:08 And so I think this is one of the most important,
13:11 you know, aspects of trading is,
13:14 for me, it was learning how to work my way back.
13:17 The reason that understanding how to work your way back
13:19 is so important is because when in doubt, zoom out.
13:23 That's probably a term that you've heard in the past.
13:25 If not, it's a great term to understand.
13:28 When in doubt, zoom out means that
13:30 if you are in doubt about a setup,
13:31 go to the higher timeframe and look at it
13:33 because those higher timeframes
13:35 are going to be relied upon more
13:37 just because you're getting a broader picture
13:40 and therefore more weight is going to be put
13:42 into those higher timeframes.
13:43 So understanding what type of trader you are
13:46 is first off important,
13:47 but if I'm just basically doing my watch list, right,
13:49 on the weekend and I'm looking at Tesla
13:52 and I'm preparing to take a trade on Tesla
13:54 the upcoming week,
13:55 I'm automatically going to come out to the weekly chart
13:58 because I want to understand the broader picture first
14:00 and work my way back.
14:02 So if this was a Sunday night
14:03 and I was just coming to, you know,
14:05 start my watch list for the week ahead,
14:07 I would come over here to Tesla and I would say,
14:08 "Okay, well, we have this key level
14:10 "on the weekly clearly, right?
14:12 "We've bounced off this level multiple times.
14:14 "That's going to be a key weekly support spot
14:17 "on Tesla itself, right?"
14:19 So we can tell that we have this key level at 178
14:23 into this 180 zone.
14:24 Some people like to use demand zones
14:26 where you can have like a three to $4 range.
14:29 For me, I'd rather mark out
14:31 where we've seen these weekly support bounces in the past,
14:34 right, and then I want to come over and mark,
14:36 "Okay, well, where is, you know,
14:37 "my key weekly resistance going to be?"
14:40 Clearly, you know, we had some prior support
14:42 at that 215 zone on Tesla, right?
14:46 And I'm gonna try to do these as like
14:47 a little bit more rangy, not to be too specific,
14:50 but I'm gonna go over to Tesla and say,
14:51 "Okay, we've got a clear, you know,
14:53 "old support at that 215 level on Tesla."
14:57 Great.
14:58 We know that going forward,
15:00 that 211 to 216 area where you see these large wicks down,
15:04 that's going to be a very important area
15:07 and difficult area for Tesla to reclaim
15:10 because what was once strong support,
15:12 and you can see that we bounced here
15:14 for one, two, three, four, five, six, eight weeks.
15:17 That's almost two months worth of support
15:20 at that 211 area.
15:22 So therefore, if we come up in the future
15:24 and try to test 211 on Tesla,
15:26 we know that we're gonna encounter
15:28 a lot of resistance at that point
15:29 because it was a very strong old support.
15:32 So first off, understanding the old support
15:35 into new resistance and old resistance into new support,
15:38 mantra is very, very important, right?
15:40 That's a concept that you have to understand
15:42 when charting out those key levels
15:44 on those larger timeframes.
15:46 And then, like I said, I'm gonna still, you know,
15:48 come out here and say, "Okay, well, where's my target
15:50 "if Tesla comes down under that 180 support
15:53 "on the weekly, right?"
15:54 Well, I can automatically see that
15:56 Tesla had a major breakout, right,
15:59 once it cleared this area right here,
16:01 which is that 154 level on the weekly, right?
16:05 And I know that's going to be a very key level
16:07 because you can tell that we had
16:09 a lot of resistance back here, right,
16:11 because we had a lot of trouble getting over that 154 level.
16:14 Therefore, we can reasonably assume
16:17 that will act as a strong support on the way down
16:20 because that was a major resistance on Tesla two years ago,
16:24 right, so that's very important
16:26 in understanding that concept,
16:27 and that's really going to be at the heart
16:29 of laying out my game plan on the weekly.
16:31 And then I will come over to the daily chart, right?
16:34 And this is where we're gonna get
16:35 a little bit more in depth
16:37 as to, okay, so where are gonna be
16:39 my tighter timeframe levels
16:40 now that I have those really important weekly levels
16:43 charted out?
16:44 Well, we can see here, we had very strong daily support,
16:48 or at least relatively strong daily support
16:50 at this 203 price point, right?
16:53 Now, when you get within $5
16:55 of a psychological number like 200,
16:58 I always refer to the psychological number
17:00 if we're within two or $3,
17:02 but we'll say for now that 200 level
17:04 acted as a very strong daily support.
17:07 And so coming into this week,
17:08 I know that that 200 area is going to act as resistance
17:11 because we are now below it.
17:13 Well, look exactly what happened this week on Tesla, right?
17:16 Tesla, obviously we came down below that 200 support
17:19 last week, and then look what happened this week, right?
17:21 We started the week off, we kind of drifted up,
17:23 and then look at where we encountered resistance,
17:25 right at that 200 level,
17:27 and then we came back down off of it,
17:29 and we found support at last week's low.
17:31 So that's a perfect example
17:33 of coming over to the daily chart
17:34 and understanding on the tighter timeframes,
17:36 how do I identify those key support and resistance levels?
17:40 And that really is, you're gonna be your roadmap
17:42 as you head into the week ahead.
17:44 - So a really good way to go about finding these plays.
17:46 Let's talk about once you're actually trading them.
17:48 You usually are on a 15 minute timeframe.
17:51 What are you looking for
17:52 within that timeframe specifically?
17:54 And then are there any other timeframes
17:55 that you're using when you're actively trading?
17:58 - Yeah, so for me, this is a great question.
18:01 And this one has a lot to do with volume,
18:04 the market you're in, and how much liquidity there is.
18:08 So the market environment that we were in in 2020
18:12 is much different than the market environment
18:14 we're in in 2022.
18:15 In 2020, you had a bunch of Americans at home
18:20 with stimulus checks trading in the stock market, right?
18:22 And therefore, it's going to be
18:24 a much more active environment.
18:25 And when you have a much more active environment,
18:28 you have very high volume.
18:30 You have to usually use a smaller timeframe
18:32 because there is so much happening within
18:35 that condensed period of time, right?
18:37 One five minute candle can really be a huge deciding factor.
18:41 In a quantitative tightening environment
18:43 like we're in right now, personally for me,
18:45 I have found more success using a wider timeframe,
18:48 such as the 15 minute timeframe.
18:51 That timeframe for me has been my bread and butter.
18:54 But that's just because of the type of trader I am, right?
18:56 You have to understand the timeframe that you trade on
18:59 is gonna kind of dictate what type of trader you are.
19:01 For me, I found that the 15 minute timeframe works well
19:05 for intraday moves, and it is going to let me
19:07 let the trade play out to its maximum amount
19:11 of risk to reward, right?
19:12 So for me, the 15 minute timeframe
19:14 has been my bread and butter over the last 18 months.
19:17 - Awesome, and when you're within this timeframe,
19:19 maybe we can pull up a trade that you did this morning,
19:22 which was Walmart, or we could pull up BABA from yesterday,
19:25 and just show me kind of what were you looking at
19:27 when you went and actually took those trades?
19:28 I mentioned those 'cause I think they were both calls.
19:31 - Yeah, absolutely.
19:32 So let's look at BABA.
19:34 BABA was a fantastic example.
19:36 So first off on BABA, yesterday, obviously,
19:40 like I said, guys, we had that bigger move on earnings,
19:45 right?
19:46 And so what I was looking at on BABA is really like,
19:50 the 15 minute timeframe can really take away
19:53 a lot of the deception.
19:55 Like I said, on the 15 minute timeframe on BABA,
19:57 what I was gonna be looking at here
19:59 was looking at how healthy of a first 15 minute candle
20:02 it printed off of the open, right?
20:04 So obviously, BABA had earnings.
20:06 This is sometimes referred to as an IV flush.
20:09 The first 15 minute candle is something
20:11 that I'm usually going to let form
20:13 prior to me taking a trade.
20:15 When I see BABA print a very healthy 15 minute candle
20:18 like this off of the open,
20:21 and retake a key level such as 80,
20:24 that is automatically going to show me,
20:26 okay, buyers are clearly present here off the open.
20:28 This one is in an established trend to the upside
20:31 off of that first 15 minute candle.
20:33 And something that I pay really close attention to
20:36 is candle structure.
20:37 So you can tell that this is a very healthy
20:40 first 15 minute candle,
20:42 just by looking at the body of the candle, right?
20:45 There's very little wick at the top,
20:47 which illustrates that buyers were present
20:49 the entire time through that candle.
20:51 And you can see the continuation that we had, right?
20:54 Following that 15 minute candle.
20:56 We had almost, you know,
20:58 the first five 15 minute candles of the day
21:00 continued in that, you know, very bullish uptrend, right?
21:03 Until we saw some selling come in at the 85 level.
21:06 So for me, I waited until 9.45.
21:08 At the time, I entered the 85 weekly calls,
21:12 little bit of smaller size,
21:13 'cause I was trading a weekly expiration contract.
21:16 And obviously we got really nice continuation
21:19 off of that $80 psychological level retest.
21:22 And then we got that upside move towards 85.
21:24 And I think those ended up printing 338%.
21:27 It was a Thursday.
21:29 So pretty volatile move.
21:30 And like I said, it worked out fantastic.
21:33 - Yeah, those are awesome.
21:34 Okay, really, really good stuff.
21:35 I wanna hit on a topic which was super highly requested.
21:38 And that is the idea of letting winners run
21:42 and cutting losers early,
21:44 and how you go about finding the belief,
21:46 conviction, confidence, patience
21:48 when you're writing out these trades.
21:51 - Yeah, absolutely.
21:52 So again, I really wanna emphasize,
21:54 this is probably one of the questions
21:56 that I get asked the most is scaling in and out,
21:59 and why is it so important?
22:01 First off, letting your winners run is very important.
22:04 And I think that the way that I have developed my system
22:09 is I am big on locking profits
22:13 when trades are hitting my targets.
22:15 But at the same time,
22:16 I want to let at least a portion of my position
22:19 run with a trailing stop loss.
22:21 So the way that I do that is really pretty simple.
22:24 So I treat my position as a pie, right?
22:28 And when I have that pie,
22:29 I wanna cut that pie in thirds
22:31 and take risk off the table accordingly.
22:34 So my general rule of thumb is when I have a trade,
22:38 so for example, here on BABA,
22:40 I had three targets laid out prior to the day, right?
22:44 And this is where it's gonna be crucial
22:46 to have price targets on stocks
22:49 that you plan on trading, right?
22:50 You need to have that done the morning before
22:52 or the weekend before.
22:54 So for example, on BABA,
22:55 you can literally see exactly where I scaled out.
22:57 My first scale was actually pretty early on.
22:59 So I bought this retest of the 79.80 level.
23:03 And then my first scale out was actually right here
23:05 at this $81 level.
23:07 I scaled out 30% of my position, right?
23:09 And so that's the first,
23:11 let's take some risk off the table.
23:12 We are in profit in this trade.
23:15 And then I'm gonna take off,
23:17 usually 65 to 75% of my position at my next price target.
23:21 And then I will let the last one fourth
23:24 or one third of my position run
23:26 to kind of reach towards my reach price target,
23:29 which in this case was that 85 level,
23:31 which is where I scaled the last 20% of my position.
23:33 So having a system is going to be by far
23:37 the most important thing
23:39 when it comes to learning how to let winners run.
23:42 If you have a system for scaling out,
23:45 it's going to be a lot easier to let a portion
23:47 of that position run
23:48 when you have the majority of the position locked in
23:51 with gains already.
23:53 Once I'm usually in profit by 25%,
23:55 my stop loss becomes my entry
23:57 because I don't wanna let a green trade go red.
24:00 - For sure.
24:01 And what about on the other side, cutting losers?
24:04 - Yeah, so cutting losers is probably one
24:06 of the most difficult parts of trading
24:08 because it involves you to face your ego,
24:11 face your emotions,
24:12 because what that is is you're admitting that you are wrong.
24:15 Right?
24:16 And I think that when you start out trading,
24:19 if I could go back and do it again,
24:21 I would probably start with a defined percentage stop loss.
24:25 And once you become a more experienced trader
24:29 and you're trading higher frequency and with more capital,
24:32 everybody's going to tell you,
24:34 and myself included was a big believer in that system
24:37 of a level, a key level on a certain timeframe
24:41 should be your stop loss
24:42 'cause you want the trade to technically invalidate
24:45 before you cut it.
24:46 Right?
24:47 You don't wanna cut it before it technically invalidates.
24:49 But if you're just starting out trading,
24:52 having a defined stop loss like 20%
24:54 is really going to help you conserve some of that,
24:57 you know, market tuition and capital
24:59 that goes into learning how to trade.
25:01 And it really does get you in the practice
25:04 of cutting losers early.
25:05 So really, I'm not gonna sit here and say that,
25:08 you know, I myself don't have, you know,
25:10 sometimes, you know, yeah,
25:12 I'm gonna have a 25% stop loss on a trade
25:14 and I'll let it go to 30%
25:16 and I'll cut a loss for 30%, right?
25:17 Like everybody, no matter how long they've been trading
25:20 is going to deal with that.
25:21 But it's really about getting in the habit of early on,
25:24 if the trade is not working,
25:26 there is another trade on the other side.
25:28 And you really have to get out of the mantra
25:30 that that trade is the end all be all
25:32 and it has to be a home run and it has to be successful.
25:35 It doesn't have to be anything.
25:36 That is just one setup that isn't working in your manner.
25:40 And the way that I like to approach it now
25:42 is if a trade is going against me,
25:44 especially in a market like we're in right now,
25:46 I will absolutely cut it, reevaluate.
25:48 It's better to cut it and be done.
25:51 You know, like today, for example, I took a trade on BABA.
25:54 It went 25% in the green.
25:56 I cut 20% of it.
25:58 I took my first scale out.
25:59 And then it came back to my entry
26:01 and I saw that BABA was kind of working against me
26:03 a little bit.
26:04 And I said to myself,
26:04 it's not worth letting this trade become a loser.
26:06 I've already scaled out a portion.
26:08 I'd rather just cut it here at my entry
26:10 and then kind of move forward
26:11 and look at the market with a whole new outlook.
26:13 So I think that's really important
26:15 to get in the habit of doing.
26:17 - Definitely.
26:18 I think those are some great points throughout.
26:19 And if people have additional questions on that,
26:22 definitely come to some of our spaces
26:25 that we do regularly on a weekly basis
26:27 and we can dig in further to those concepts.
26:29 But I just wanted to get the overarching thoughts.
26:31 - And I would just say also,
26:34 one last thing is really important to understand
26:36 when you're talking about cutting losers.
26:38 In the market that we are in right now,
26:40 it is always better to lock gains earlier.
26:44 This is a market where we are
26:46 in a quantitative tightening environment.
26:48 We're in a market that has less range,
26:50 that has less liquidity.
26:51 It is always better to lock your winners early on,
26:54 leave a few runners,
26:55 and then that is going to help you evaluate trading
26:57 as a whole with a better mindset.
26:59 So if you're newer,
27:00 I would always suggest locking those profits early on.
27:03 It's better to be green by $2 than it is to be red.
27:05 So that's definitely a big one.
27:08 - Yeah, for sure, for sure.
27:09 Especially for people's mentality
27:11 and their continuation in their trading careers.
27:14 Okay, another question that I got
27:16 and then I want to go back to a couple other charts
27:18 is people wanted suggested books
27:21 that you would suggest someone
27:22 who really wants to take their trading
27:23 to the next level should be reading.
27:25 - Yeah, so I haven't read too many trading specific books.
27:30 I'm more of kind of a mindset.
27:35 If I'm gonna read,
27:37 I think it's important to kind of take advantage
27:39 of the literature that is out there
27:42 more from a mental standpoint
27:43 because trading is really 80% mental.
27:46 So if you're going to try to train for trading
27:48 with literature,
27:52 I think your best bet is really taking advantage
27:54 of some of the best authors that are out there
27:56 about working on your mindset.
27:58 All of David Goggins' books are fantastic.
28:00 Volume Price Analysis by Anna Kooling
28:04 is one of the actual trading books that I have read
28:06 and could recommend.
28:08 And you'll see a lot of the people
28:10 that I'm good friends with recommend that book as well
28:12 just because of how impactful it has been
28:15 learning about the importance of volume in trading.
28:17 So I think that that's gonna be
28:19 the one trading related book that I would really recommend.
28:23 - Perfect.
28:23 For these lines, these scale outlines on BABA,
28:26 I know that you were looking at BABA on your Sunday scan
28:29 and you pulled out to the weekly
28:31 and you found different items on it,
28:32 but where did these lines end up coming from?
28:34 Did you implement them on the weekly
28:36 and then go in on the 15 minute?
28:37 How did you end up setting these specific spots?
28:41 - Yeah, so BABA is one of those stocks
28:43 that I trade on a very regular basis.
28:45 So it's a stock that I've kind of been trading
28:49 really since I started trading options consistently.
28:51 And therefore I'm going to have some preset levels
28:55 that are already on the chart itself.
28:56 But to answer your question,
28:58 the night before what I did is I came out and I said,
29:02 okay, we've got this really nice put closing activity
29:06 on BABA, let's see where it really needs to reclaim
29:10 in order to see a big move.
29:12 And so if you come out to the BABA weekly,
29:13 because that's always gonna be the first timeframe
29:15 I look at, I'll come out and say,
29:17 okay, hey, we've got clear weekly support,
29:20 what was weekly support at this $80 zone
29:23 and up to this 81, 82 level.
29:26 So I definitely come out here and say,
29:28 okay, listen, we've got strong resistance on the weekly
29:32 now because this 82 level was such a strong area
29:37 of support in the past.
29:39 And so for me, I knew that the 85 level on BABA
29:42 was a huge area on the daily
29:44 because we had had so much support there in the past.
29:47 If you come out and look at the daily chart,
29:48 'cause remember, we always wanna work backwards,
29:51 you can come out to the daily and say,
29:52 okay, clearly the last time that we ran,
29:56 which was in early October,
29:57 we stalled out at the $86 level.
29:59 So the night before I came out and said,
30:01 okay, my target in this trade
30:03 is going to be that 85 to $86 level.
30:06 And that's why you saw my last price target was that 85.
30:10 That was my reach price target.
30:12 And the reason that it was a reach price target
30:14 was because you can see we had a lot of selling
30:16 coming here at the $86 level on BABA
30:20 the last time it ran, right?
30:21 And we clearly had resistance, which was then support,
30:26 right here at this like 81, 82 area, right?
30:28 So 82.10, that was my first target on BABA, right?
30:33 So in between that 81, $82 zone,
30:36 I was actively scaling out
30:38 'cause I knew that was an area that, again,
30:40 we were going to encounter some resistance at,
30:42 we ended up ripping right through it.
30:44 And like I said, when I saw that,
30:46 I held those last few runners
30:48 up to that most recent daily high,
30:50 which was that 86.29 area.
30:53 We sold out at 85.
30:55 I sold my last few runners right around that level, so.
30:58 - For sure, for sure.
30:59 I think those are some great points.
31:01 One other question that I did have is
31:04 what WICs typically mean to you?
31:06 Large WIC on the top side, large WIC on the downside,
31:08 a series of WICs, what does that mean to you?
31:11 - Yeah, absolutely.
31:12 So candle WICs are very important.
31:14 And I've, again, said,
31:16 candle structure is just so, so important,
31:19 especially when you talk about the daily timeframe.
31:22 I use, actively look at WICs on shorter timeframes as well.
31:27 For example, on BABA, right,
31:28 you see how we have this long upper WIC,
31:30 and then the following day we had an indecision candle,
31:33 and then we had that kind of confirmed downtrend
31:36 set in on the daily, right?
31:37 So when you see large upper WICs like that,
31:40 it indicates selling at a certain level, right?
31:43 And I'm not exactly familiar with what BABA was doing
31:46 at the beginning of October,
31:48 but when you are in a more bearish market
31:51 and you see those long upper WICs,
31:54 that really illustrates sellers coming in
31:57 at that price level.
31:58 And so what that does for me is it allows me to set a area
32:01 where, oh, okay, in the future, right,
32:04 that's gonna help me determine,
32:05 I know sellers are gonna come in at 85 or 86
32:08 because on our most recent daily high,
32:10 we had a lot of WICs,
32:12 a lot of long upper WICs at that price point.
32:14 So for me, if I'm long on the trade,
32:17 I know that that's a great reach price target area
32:20 because I know that we're gonna encounter
32:22 a lot of selling at that spot.
32:24 On the inverse, if I see a lot of, you know,
32:26 like long lower WICs on the daily, right,
32:28 if we have, you know, a lot of buying pressure coming in
32:31 on larger timeframes and that candle body
32:33 is being pushed up,
32:35 that's going to illustrate to me
32:36 that we have a lot of buyers coming in
32:38 and that they're pushing that candle body over,
32:41 you know, whatever it be, a key support, right,
32:44 or a past like weekly support area.
32:46 So those candle WICs are gonna be very important to me
32:49 because they're illustrating where those buyers and sellers
32:52 are really pushing that candle body.
32:54 - Perfect.
32:55 Okay, let's just do a couple more charts
32:57 and then we can wrap up from there
32:59 just so people can kind of see
33:00 how you're taking these techniques
33:01 and applying them across different stocks.
33:03 Rivian.
33:04 - So Rivian is a great one.
33:06 This is going to be an example of, you know,
33:08 some people call it a liquidity sweep.
33:11 I like to call it a daily candle trap.
33:13 So for example, we are looking at the 11.9
33:17 and 11.10 candles on Rivian.
33:19 So they had just gotten through earnings.
33:21 If you look at the candle from the day following earnings,
33:23 which was 11.10, and this is pretty recent,
33:26 so this will be a good example.
33:28 You can see how the WIC of this candle extends
33:31 below a key area of support on the daily, right?
33:34 We knew that this was a key area of support on Rivian
33:37 at that 32.50 area.
33:39 That's been a key level on the chart, you know,
33:41 pretty much its entire life, right, as a stock.
33:43 And so when I saw that daily candle,
33:46 which you gotta give me a second to get back to here,
33:48 but okay, so you can see how the WIC of this candle
33:51 extends below, and then you see how the body of it
33:54 closes back above.
33:56 That for me is going to be a daily candle trap,
33:59 and that's something that I've, you know,
34:00 kind of created as my own saying,
34:02 and it's one of my favorite setups to play
34:04 because what is being illustrated there,
34:06 and some people again call that like a liquidity sweep,
34:10 for me that's a daily candle trap where you are seeing
34:13 the candle or the stock itself sell down
34:15 in the beginning of the day.
34:16 So you get a lot of people in there on the short side
34:19 because, you know, in the past, once it's broken that level,
34:22 it's seen big moves down.
34:23 So you get a lot of people that come in on the short side,
34:25 but what happens is, what this is illustrating
34:28 the long WIC down is illustrating that at the end of the day
34:30 we saw a lot of buyers come in, right?
34:33 And it actually ended up that the body of that candle
34:36 closed above the key daily support level at that 32.50 area.
34:41 And so when that happened, you had a lot of shorts
34:44 in the stock from earlier in the day
34:46 when it was below a key daily support,
34:48 it actually closed back above,
34:49 and then look what happens the following day.
34:52 We get almost a $2 gap above,
34:54 and we get a huge move to the upside on the options.
34:57 And I actually believe I traded that setup exactly
34:59 with an overnight and it ended up printing like crazy.
35:04 I think it was a three or 400% trade
35:06 right off the open the next day.
35:08 So that is one of my absolute favorite setups to play
35:11 is the daily and weekly candle trap.
35:13 - I definitely remember that one.
35:15 That was really good.
35:16 Let's pull up the Walmart maybe 15 minute
35:18 and see what you saw this morning.
35:20 - So right now we're looking at the Walmart daily.
35:23 First off, I need to kind of start on the daily again
35:25 because this is the reason I was looking at this setup
35:28 was because of the daily chart.
35:30 So this is what I like to call,
35:32 you have basically a power earnings gap up.
35:34 So we can see Walmart reported earnings here on 11.15.
35:38 They had that initial gap to the upside, right?
35:41 And then we then pulled back, consolidated,
35:43 and we've kind of formed that post earnings
35:46 type of bull flag setup where,
35:48 okay, we've got a really nice bullish earnings report.
35:52 That's a fundamental confirmation point.
35:54 Coming into today, we retested that breakout level,
35:58 initial breakout level at 147.
36:00 And then today I noticed that we held the prior days high.
36:04 So if you look on this daily candle,
36:06 148.73 was our prior days high.
36:09 And then if you look at the 15 minute candles
36:11 from today on Walmart, off of the open, right?
36:15 And so this is our first candle of the day.
36:17 I noticed that we held that prior days high.
36:20 So if you look at that daily candle from yesterday,
36:22 like I said, it had a high of 148.73.
36:25 That first daily candle, or excuse me,
36:27 that first 15 minute candle this morning off the open,
36:29 we held that level extremely well, right?
36:32 And when I saw that we were gonna hold that level
36:35 on that first candle of the day,
36:38 I actually entered the long side 150 call weekly.
36:41 As a lotto.
36:42 And then once we held that prior days high,
36:45 we actually pushed all the way back up to 150.
36:48 That's a huge psychological level of resistance.
36:50 So I ended up taking the win on the trade there
36:51 at the 150 level.
36:53 But like I said, it ended up being a 60 or 70% move
36:56 on those 150 calls.
36:58 Obviously 'cause they were expiring today.
37:00 But with some small size,
37:01 that was a really nice trade to start the day off.
37:04 - Yeah, for sure.
37:05 Okay, let's take a look at Coin.
37:06 And I know this wasn't one that you traded today,
37:08 necessarily, but just curious from the setup on the chart,
37:11 how you read it.
37:13 - Yeah, absolutely.
37:13 So, you know, Coin is one that I have really loved to trade
37:17 in terms of on the weekly timeframe.
37:20 The reason why is that, you know, for a long time,
37:23 we had this really nice weekly trend from its May low.
37:27 And what I would do, honestly,
37:30 is I would trade this trend line.
37:32 And I'm not a huge trend line person,
37:35 but on larger timeframes, like weekly,
37:38 you know, even like daily or monthly charts,
37:41 I will look at that weekly trend
37:43 as a really important source of confirmation, right?
37:47 I probably traded Coin every single time
37:50 it hit off this weekly trend line
37:51 because we would consistently get, you know,
37:54 an eight or $9 bounce when we touched that trend line.
37:58 And it was almost like every time it happened, right,
38:01 until we most recently broke that trend line,
38:03 obviously the stock saw a big move down when that happened.
38:05 But you can see that weekly trend line
38:07 from its May low had been pretty consistent.
38:10 We would hit it, bounce $10 or $12, right?
38:14 We would hit it, bounce, hit it,
38:16 and then bounce, you know, 15 or $18.
38:18 And then look at long wick down,
38:20 hits right at the weekly trend line.
38:22 And then the next week is the week that it went to 120,
38:26 you know, from like 58 the week prior.
38:28 So I learned to play that trend line
38:30 for really clean bounces each and every time.
38:33 It respected that weekly trend a lot.
38:35 And so for me, I really found that I was able
38:37 to consistently play that weekly trend on a stock
38:40 that I was familiar with the tape,
38:41 I was familiar with the level two,
38:44 and I really had a good feel for it.
38:46 So like I said, that was a way that I, you know,
38:48 kind of would plan out trades on something,
38:50 you know, like a stock I'm familiar with,
38:52 like Coinbase, you know, on a regular basis
38:54 was just using those weekly trend line bounces
38:57 for pretty much easy gains, you know,
38:59 throughout the summer, so.
39:00 - I love it.
39:01 Okay, I think we're good on all the chart stuff.
39:03 I got one last question, and then I'll let you go.
39:05 My question is, there's a lot of traders
39:07 that are frustrated right now, right?
39:09 They feel like they're putting in time on a daily basis,
39:12 but maybe they are getting into a trade,
39:14 it drops down, they sell 'cause they wanna cut,
39:17 it pops back up, right?
39:18 They feel like they just can't do something right.
39:20 Maybe this was, you know, you in the beginning days.
39:22 What do you wish, what's maybe a piece or two of advice
39:25 when you first started trading,
39:26 when you were first going through those initial struggles,
39:28 what do you wish someone had come
39:30 and like really just hammered home for you
39:32 that would have taken your career to the next level?
39:35 - Sure, yeah, I think the, without a doubt,
39:38 unequivocally the most impactful thing
39:40 I wish I could go back and tell myself
39:42 would be to trade with more time.
39:45 So buy, you don't have to trade weekly contracts,
39:48 you don't have to trade SPYs,
39:49 zero-day to expiration contracts.
39:51 Trade with a month of time, right?
39:53 Because one of the most common reasons
39:55 that traders get stopped out
39:57 is because it hits their percentage stop loss
39:59 or they, you know, see a big drawdown in their position
40:02 and they're losing money.
40:03 So trade with more time and allow yourself
40:07 to understand why the trade is happening.
40:09 This is a very difficult environment
40:10 that we're currently in.
40:12 Even the best traders, myself included, get chopped up.
40:14 Like this week I got chopped up more times
40:17 than I probably have in three months, right?
40:19 And so in an environment like that,
40:21 adjust your expectations first off.
40:23 I would go back and tell myself,
40:24 hey, you don't need to 10X or 20X your account right now,
40:27 focus on learning why the trade is happening
40:30 and give yourself a little bit more time.
40:32 Even if you're trading a week or two weeks out,
40:35 having that added cushion is going to reduce that stress,
40:38 is going to reduce that frustration,
40:40 and is really going to accelerate your journey
40:43 into being a consistently profitable trader.
40:46 - Love it.
40:46 Hopefully we can get that sound clip right into the ears
40:49 of all the 18 to 19 year old traders in the world.
40:53 I'll do my best to deliver it.
40:55 Man, it's always a pleasure having you on.
40:57 Our first podcast was a smashing success.
41:00 We obviously do weekly live shows
41:02 where we're bringing in a ton of information.
41:03 I'm glad we got to do this.
41:05 Anything else you want to share before we close out?
41:07 - No, I would honestly just kind of reiterate
41:10 the message that I just gave,
41:11 which is if you're getting discouraged in this environment,
41:13 I totally understand that,
41:14 and I think it's totally warranted.
41:16 But just remember that if you put in the work right now,
41:19 it is going to pay later.
41:20 There's going to be that time
41:22 where the market is incredibly, incredibly hot.
41:24 And like I said, the work that you do now
41:26 is going to reflect a year from now.
41:27 I wish I could have told myself that in the beginning
41:29 is what you do now is going to show in a year.
41:33 So make sure that if you're putting in that effort,
41:35 you're consistent about it
41:36 and understand that it is part of a bigger process
41:38 and you're going to get there.
41:40 - Perfect.
41:41 Love the message.
41:42 To anybody that's listening, if you did make it this far,
41:45 go ahead, drop me your thoughts on Twitter.
41:47 A bunch of people dropped their thoughts last time.
41:49 I responded to every single one of them.
41:51 My @ is @Wolf_Financial.
41:54 Man's is @NotMrMansell.
41:56 We'll throw those on the screen
41:57 in the beginning of this video.
41:59 To everybody that's listening,
42:01 I hope this was super helpful for you.
42:02 Again, if you have any other questions,
42:03 maybe we'll even do a part three
42:05 if enough people DM me important questions
42:07 that they want to listen to.
42:08 To everyone else, safe trading, have fun, keep learning.
42:13 Don't stop.
42:14 This is one of the hardest times ever to be a trader.
42:17 So some days you're just going to need to sit back,
42:19 but never stop learning.
42:21 And with that, hopefully we'll see you on the next podcast.
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