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00:00 Kachra, don't make it dirty.
00:02 It's being used all over the world.
00:04 We saw in Lahore, a company has been given a contract to produce electricity.
00:09 Kachra is produced in Karachi by more than 12,000 tonnes, if I'm not mistaken.
00:14 And there was a time, 2-3 years ago, when politics was revolving around Kachra.
00:20 Everyone was saying that they have to take responsibility.
00:22 I have to take responsibility.
00:23 They were running away from the responsibility.
00:25 Who took the responsibility? No one?
00:27 I remember, the director was appointed, Mustafa Kamal.
00:31 Machines came from China, I don't know where they went.
00:33 The problem is that where do we dump the Kachra that is being produced?
00:37 Because the more we go out of the city, the more fuel we need.
00:40 So this problem, the city's drains are clogged with Kachra.
00:44 So this problem cannot be solved.
00:46 In such a situation, we have such guests who make Kachra a remedy.
00:51 And they also give awareness to others to face Kachra.
00:55 If we try to make Kachra a remedy, even by 30%,
01:02 then it can be much better in terms of cleanliness.
01:05 So, Angel Imdad is his name.
01:08 And he is with his team, recycling Kachra in Karachi to solve this problem.
01:13 Along with that, he is also helping to put the waste in the right places.
01:17 And of course, we will ask him how and what can be done.
01:20 How can Kachra be made a remedy?
01:22 Angel Imdad is with us. Good morning, Angel. How are you?
01:25 Good morning. I am good. How are you?
01:27 I am fine.
01:28 So, tell us a little bit about how you got this idea, what your team does,
01:34 and how big a scale this work is being done.
01:36 Right. So, my name is Angel Imdad.
01:39 And Irvirde is the name of our company. It means Go Green.
01:43 I am an environmentalist by profession.
01:46 So, this whole work was my thesis research in my MPhil.
01:50 So, I thought why not use the hard work I have done for society.
01:55 We should use it for practical purposes.
01:56 Exactly.
01:57 And definitely, as everyone knows, the waste business is very profitable.
02:03 Everyone can see it. It is equally difficult.
02:05 But how can we make it valuable?
02:08 So, this was our whole concept.
02:10 We started with the idea that the biggest problem is awareness.
02:14 Even if we put bins, color-coded bins, people don't know what to throw in them.
02:20 And even if we throw it, even if we write on it, they don't know what will be the benefit of doing this.
02:25 So, we focus on that.
02:26 We empower the schools and institutions so that children know why environmental conservation is important.
02:35 Why are we segregating the garbage, the wet garbage, the dry garbage?
02:40 What will be the benefit of doing this?
02:42 The benefit is that when we separate, our concept, Ayurveda does this,
02:49 that at least you separate dry garbage and wet garbage.
02:54 Why?
02:55 Because dry garbage gets spoiled when it is mixed with dry garbage.
02:59 It gets spoiled because microorganisms start their activities in wet garbage.
03:04 Because of that, they make dry garbage completely wet and do so much that it cannot be recycled.
03:10 Even if it is recycled, a lot of cost is involved,
03:14 because of which we see so many shoppers and different things on the roads.
03:20 Now that we have separated them, what is the biggest benefit?
03:24 Obviously, dry garbage, so what can be done with it?
03:27 Okay, so the benefit is those things that we don't see on the road,
03:31 which all our local pickers pick up, scavengers, we normally call it in our language.
03:39 So, they pick up bottles, tins, paper, and all that, and we have shopping bags left behind.
03:46 Those who have less weight, they have a problem in recycling.
03:51 So, our job here is that we have a very big role in recycling shopping bags.
03:57 All our clients, like Mr. Khan, there is a restaurant on the highway,
04:01 he is a very big client of ours and he has been with us since the start.
04:04 He has plastic bags, shopping bags, so all that comes to us.
04:10 We have a whole washing line, we wash it further and then we send it for recycling.
04:15 For recycling, we have different plastic recyclers and people like this are coming with a lot of initiatives,
04:22 where bricks are being made and some plastic bricks are being made.
04:25 Recently Shell has made a whole road, but it is very important to learn here
04:30 that not everything can be done with every plastic.
04:33 There are different types of plastic.
04:35 So, every plastic has a different value, goes in different money, and can do a different job.
04:40 So, who do you get help from?
04:43 In the local, in the street neighborhoods, in Karachi,
04:47 children are working there and they are collecting garbage from the house.
04:52 They are given a nominal amount and then they collect a lot in it.
04:56 So, you contact them, how do you do these things?
05:00 At the moment, our team is working, our own laborers, our own pickers, pickup drivers, all of them are working.
05:08 But yes, because there is a very large number who normally work on Mafia Beast,
05:15 and different local pickers are working, in which a lot of children come.
05:19 We are working on this so that we can bring them on board,
05:23 we can give them better wages, which are better for them,
05:27 we can provide them with health safety, because in this,
05:30 a very big job is being done, that is, health care waste is being mixed on our normal roads.
05:35 Our work starts from here.
05:37 Now, the pickers sometimes get syringes, sometimes they get something made of glass,
05:41 drip sets are available there.
05:43 So, by doing this pickup, they are impacting, they are also getting diseases,
05:47 which are converted into long-term cancer and HIV.
05:51 Secondly, by picking this hazardous waste, this is also being sold in the future,
05:55 which is recycled and used to make cutleries and toys for children.
05:59 So, we are utilizing that.
06:01 The basic purpose of recycling is to improve our environment,
06:06 to better dispose of waste.
06:08 There is a lot of waste in Karachi.
06:10 So, how much waste are you disposing of and improving the environment?
06:17 So, if I talk about it now, Karachi is very big.
06:20 Of course, we can't do all this alone.
06:23 So, if I talk about the waste of Karachi,
06:26 16,500 tons of waste is generated every day.
06:30 So, within that, of course, there is also a question of capacity.
06:33 And now, we have been working since 2019,
06:36 but still we need some help from the capacity and government.
06:41 Now, we are trying to manage approximately 2,000 to 2,000 tons.
06:48 But apart from that, we are trying to take 5,000 tons per day
06:54 so that we can create a big impact.
06:57 Here, it is very important that we talk about societies.
07:01 We want to work in societies.
07:03 And we are also talking about it.
07:05 So, we can empower the women, the homemakers,
07:08 because they are mainly disposing of waste.
07:10 And their job is to reuse a bottle.
07:14 So, we can empower them and tell them.
07:16 Then we can give training to the maids.
07:19 Why is it necessary to do this?
07:21 And in this way, awareness is also spread in the society.
07:23 And in return, we should pay them something
07:26 so that they can get economic benefits and empowerment.
07:30 Because when it comes to sustainability,
07:32 sustainability is directly proportional to empowerment of economies.
07:36 Absolutely.
07:37 Great.
07:38 Angel Indar, thank you so much.
07:39 And you are doing a great job.
07:41 I hope that their message is that
07:43 we should spread awareness in this way and grow.
07:46 So that we can improve our environment.
07:48 And the waste should be reduced.